I think Kyoshi is the only Avatar who really got the "maintain the peace no matter what". When Aang was trying to confront Ozai without killing him, the previos Avatar from the nomads of the air told him: "You must sacrifice your spiritual necesities for the world, that's your job". Kyoshi probably was advice the for the same one.
And what did that bring? It weakened the Earth Kingdom and stopped it from modernization and was surpassed by the Fire Nation that at the time of the previous Fire Nation Avatar was just a nation divided by clans and warring tribes. Shin the Conqueror could have unified the Earth Kingdom for all we know. She also created the Dai Li which led to the fall of the Earth Kingdom but also supported a corrupt Queen which led to the anarchy of Ba Sing Se.
@@scorpioninpink Yeah... and Aang made a metropolis that made the divide between bender and nonbenders even more apparent. It is easy to call out the errors and consequences of the past... another thing completely is live during a time were the only way a leader would be heard was trough force. Kyoshi made decisions, and between those decisions there were consequences, Roku lived a very peaceful period because of Kyoshi's actions, and many would argue that he should have killed or at least prosecuted Sozin when he first started his conquest, instead he let him live... and we all know what happened next. Pointing out consequences does not means certain actions were wrong, it just shows that life isn't easy or a binary choice.
@@scorpioninpink those consequences weren't immediate. They happened after long period of corruption. Because of kyoshi, Roku had a relatively peaceful life. All avatars made decisions with the worlds best interest in mind but you have to remember that they also come with their own set of consequences. Since you know what happened with Aang and Kora I'll tell you what happened with the 4 before them. Yangchen was born during a time of horrible political strife and mass gang wars, she was very harsh with her choices but it was because of that even some semblance of order was brought through out the land. However some of her choices also severely angered spirits and the fall out had to be shouldered by Kuruk who battled them alone in silence. It was because of this that Kuruk went down as one of the most worthless and unnoteworthy avatars to ever exist. Kyoshi wasn't even recognized as an avatar until late into her life. Yes she made some questionable decisions but you have to remember she wasn't thinking about corruption with in her own faction because of the absolute trust she had in them. Shin the conqueror was a murderous tyrant and no tyrant unifies a land without the people under him suffering for it in tenfold. You're right, the Earth kingdom would be unified , but at what cost? Roku was a famous pacifist, a noteworthy feat considering where he was born and what emotions they prioritize for powerful bending. With him he brought happiness but it was also because of his pacifism that the world later fell into great despair. No one can be perfect and only fools point out another's every fault ignorant to the others as well.
I mean, Aang wanted to end the war more as an Airbender, in a way, than the avatar, for a reason. Ozai wanted another genocide, and Aang's entire people were slaughtered for being perceived as weak. He wanted to show air nomad ways weren't weak, and deserved to live on. At least, that's how I saw it v
@@zodiac5403kuruk said himself he was lazy though because times were so peaceful and he only went into action when koh stole his girlfriend's face....
honestly thats one of the reasons i like the kyoshi books they actually go in depth into different bending ability's instead of just the same power or literal lasers
That and they do a great job at maintaining the spirituality aspect of bending. Like LoK had a lot of different bending techniques, even new ones like lava bending, but the show just treated them like superpowers and now an extension of character's personality or growth. Yun is able to come up with new techniques like paint bending because its a reflection and natural growth of his high levels of intelligence and precision, while Bolin is able to discover how to lava bend instead of metal bending because....reasons.
The earth kingdom doesn’t have a good track record of finding the avatar. I feel like this is going to happen again in the new Avatar series featuring an earth avatar that was announced. Also, Kyoshi bending the liquids in someone’s body would make her the first known blood bender.
@@thetheorizermoore7476bro it's already 75 percent done. The legend of genji. Keep up sir.. I believe that they are trying to do a series with every element as a core.
@@There_Is_No_War_In_Ba_Sing_Se According to post-korra retcons, gays were common in the Avatar world, until one day "evil homophobe Sozin" stopped this... I hate Michael and Brian
If bloodbending is using the water in our blood/bodies, you could entirely freeze people. Like standing popsicles! You could also freeze single organs as well, like if someone is chasing you….freeze some water in the muscles of their legs, incapacitating them. Freezing someone’s heart would be awesome, you could give your enemies a “brain freeze” as well!
She killed him because she thought if she let him live he would be continuously tortured by his past and might even continue to try to execute those who lied to him she thought by killing him he would obtain peace in death which he could no longer obtain in life I definitely wouldn’t say it was the best solution
Right. There are some other options she could've tried first. Like putting him on probation, getting help that he needed to work through his own trauma for starters. Using murder only as a last result if he was about to go on a killing spree again. I agree with Aang, there are some cases where murder isn't the only option out there in dealing with foes like that. Fun was betrayed by those he thought cared for him, but there could still have been a chance to save him without murder. Kyoshi can be a bit too hardcore for my taste at times.
@@TsukabuNosoratori2and take the chance of him taking multiple innocents lives in the process… I think not if she could take his bending or seal him somehow yeah but other than that he’s unpredictable and left unchecked would’ve became a murderer
She killed him because he proved multiple times over that he didn't care about anyone but himself and was going to keep hurting and killing people until his arbitrary goal of "vengeance" was satisfied. What you said wasn't anywhere in the book.
Kyoshi have lived in pain all her life. Trying to kill those precious to her was a bad move by Yun and he probably got what's coming. Should've just stick with killing those who betrayed him.
@@makindefortune4732This specific piece is from the novel Shadow of Kyoshi, though I suggest reading Rise of Kyoshi as it gives a lot of context to what is going on here. Both are fantastic reads however, and definitely something I suggest for any fan who wants to delve deeper into this universe (especially in a way the animated series never would be allowed too).
dying from an internal frostbite is absolutely scary, imagine a waterbender doing this to their foe, that would be traumatic to witness, or a water/bloodbender just crushing the internal organs
Yep, it actually terrified me while making this video. Just image a slow pain snowflaking out in every direction from your insides, before a shard of ice pierces your back 😭
I like it. It contrasts how Aang struggled with the idea of killing Ozai and how adamant he was that there are non-violent solutions when everyone around him, including previous avatars told him he has a forced hand.
2:00 she wasnt just a "friend" it was confirmed that she liked both Rangi and Yun but in the end she loved Rangi (you can see her with kyoshi on 0:20) more
I like that these darker bending arts are being explored. Remember these are the most powerful people in the nations, they have otherworldly abilities. The reason Aang is so scary in his prime is because he’s a pacifist it’s his battle and struggle not to use the overwhelming power to get his way. Power changes people and when you wield such power to change the very fabric of society that’s worth exploring in this medium. I want it to go darker as that shows the depth of struggling to juggle such power with what people and the majority would deem too far or not far enough it’s a delicate balancing act
@@sciencenerd777 ☺ Thank you! It would be cool to see what new writers could do with the established world, I'd love to see what directions things move towards.
Still really think the next earth avatar should be a sand bender it would be so cool to see a final battle take place by a beach so they can use the water and sand for attacks and if they can possibly make glass from heating the sand I just feel it could make the character so dynamic with a past of being one of the sand people/raiders then supposed to save the world
I remember reading this in the book series about her early years, and it was a shocking moment, but really cemented what kind of person Kiyoshi was, and everything that had led her to this point. She did what she had to do to not only save the people she loved, but to save the world, as it wouldn't have stopped there if she'd let him go.
"We'll add those to the list of forbidden things Kyoshi used." "Oh come on there are only four bendings it won't even be much of a list." "Forbidden drugs?" "Okay five is still not a list." "Forbidden weapons? Forbidden combat techniques?" "Okay fine I see your point." "Forbidden ritual? Forbidden spiritual manipulation? It says here you created Dai Li so add forbidden propaganda to that. Also, should I place war crimes under forbidden strategies?"
Okay, but, Jianzhu was awesome. Honestly, if he didnt get on Kyoshi's bad side, he would have been one of the most effective leaders in Earth Kingdom History
Thank You! He did most of Kuruk's avatar job and kept peace and order in the Earth kingdom.Kyoshi herself admitted he was improving it.She even reluctantly inherited his ruthlessness when she decided to blackmail,threaten and sometimes kill her enemies.If she didn't hate him for personal revenge reasons he would have had more use.
I can get behind some ruthlessness in politics, but there was no reason to abandon Yun to his (presumed) death. A child he'd raised practically as his own. It was an absolutely brutal decision, and there wasn't even any real practical benefit to justify it. ETA: Unless you meant "awesome" in a villain sense, in which case I agree. He's extra compelling in that you can (usually) see where he's coming from and he had "good" motives for a long time.
I think Kyoshi was also one of the rare Benders at all that could have achieved eternal life, but she decided against, still living 200yrs and staying young
It seems that Roku would be the first avatar to be less brutal than the past avatars. Im sure that when he had council with Kyoshi he likely disapproved her tactics to ending conflicts. Im sure Kyoshi told Roku thus forbidden technique she used and Roku likely may have forsaken her. Roku would be more merciful, as we see innthe animated series as he gives Sozen a fair warning to prevent any conflict between them and other nations.
Honestly Roku's pacifism (or pacifism in comparison to Kyoshi), could've been his greatest downfall as well. I don't Sozin would've gotten as far as he had, and the Air Temples wouldn't have fallen. But in contrast, I could see the battle between benders and non benders happening sooner. Or even a battle between benders and the Avatar for their cruelty. Wanting the Avatar to be under a united nation's-like rule instead of making decisions themselves.
Interesting... This would also make her one of the most powerful blood blenders known to the avatar world... If I'm understanding it, she takes the water from your very blood and then condenses it so tight and freezes it all the way to the point to where its smashes out of your back... Ripping flesh and bone as it goes through... Creating giant crimson wings kind of like a blood eagle. I really like this ability it's very bad ass, and the fact that Kiyoshi knew it just shows on the type of avatar she is.
Honestly, it is a no-brainer. Likewise, logically, earth benders should be able to rip out bones, since they are made of minerals that they can control. Air benders should just kill people instantly? Why? Vacuum. Vacuum == no atmospheric pressure == blood begins boiling internally. Avatar suffers from “Harry Potter” syndrome, where the show is about child soldiers going through war, but completely dismissed the real horrors of what that entails. Likewise, very few shows depict how super powers would act on human body. It is only a recent trend with “Invincible” and more notably “The Boys” that depict those abilities well enough. For example, In Gen V, blood benders just explode people to bits, among other things they can do.
Nah, its not blood bending at all. Just a healing technique that lowers your body temp. Its super easy to screw up, and if you do it flash freezes your organs. Pretty much any advanced water bender could do it if they learned how.
Kyoshi whispered: "I'm sorry I said you had to live with your pain" Yun moved close to her to hear her more clearly Then she said "... because you won't"
Same with any bending. Earth bending - rip out all bones, since they are made of minerals. Air bending - create vacuum and kill people with explosive decompression. For those who don’t know - no air/atmospheric pressure == blood’s boiling point lowers to body temperature == all of your blood turns into vapor internally == death. That is how early jet pilots and unlucky space explores died. Fire bending - instead of casting fire ball, just create fire inside your opponent. Body will explode Superman-style, since it’s internal temperature just got raised by a few thousand degrees, causing all of it’s contents to evaporate. Logically any bending should be “instant-kill”. The show is very kid friendly, which is what results in this gimmicky non-lethal balance. However, powers in Avatar universe got nerfed so hard, to the point where real life firearms and explosives are just 9/10 times better.
curious question : imagine if the water bender put a poison in the water it used, wouldn't that made the ice blade that shoot out of the water more deadly (in case it scratched your skin and such), also would poison even works as well, especially the more watery type of poison ?
It's crazy to think that this was one of Aang's previous lives. Just makes me wonder how brutal an Avatar could get considering the fact that there were hundreds of them, each with different personalities and morals.
You should read the books to get full context on why Kyoshi did that and what happened afterward But if you wanna know how brutal or ruthless an Avatar can be, I recommend reading The Dawn of Yangchen and The Legacy of Yangchen
Water and Air bending on the scale of the Avatar are the most dangerous forms of bending one allows you bending very blood within people and the other allows you to take the air out of their lungs … that’s some scary shit
Water was always so OP in TLA, it was fortunate that it was the fire nation (that literally everyone had some defense against) that became the militaristoc expansionists.
I heard it differently kiyoshi lied to him saying that she learned of a technique that would transfer her Avatar abilities to him by simply placing her right hand on his heart when she did that she froze his heart and lungs when took his last breath it look like if he was in a freezer that just showed how cold and dangerous waterbending can be so don't anger a waterbending master especially if they are the avatar🪨🔥🌪️❄️
I feel that Avatar series can be dark if they were to go back in time. The new avatars are soft not Aang tho. Can’t wait for Kiyoshi movie to come out. And yes at the time it was necessary, we earth types don’t like wasting time, we move slow but come with massive amounts of forces to get the job…remember what Toph said to Aang on training day
What's a fucked idea is instantly freezing the water inside of a person.... or worse, separating the water from a person causing a pretty painful death.
Kyoshi was way too quick to violence and threats. I mean honestly I don’t think she had any business killing yun especially when his motives resulted from pain and not from pure evil like azulon or ozai.
That’s so awesome!!!! I think I agree with everyone when we say Avatar isn’t on Nickelodeon anymore let’s make this series the way it’s supposed to be!! Give us more of this animated I def still wanna see after the 100 war animated it only gets more interesting and imagine spin-offs of past Avatars 😩😩 we need at least spin-offs of Kiyoshi , Yang-Chen, and MORE Roku and honestly forgot the Water Avatar’s name the one who had faced Koh ya we want more of that too. On top of all the stuff we are already getting 😁😁😁😁 pleaseeeeeee 🙏🏽
I guess bones are (as a material) comparable with wood... it could theoretically be possible to bend bones and even flesh, but for most earthbenders it's way too hard to sense that "grain of earth" within bone (considering that metalbending is hard enough)
Kyoshi was not the only one who used this type of waterbending, as it Ang's time there were waterbenders who were also known as "bloodbenders" where they bend the vary blood of people/animals which is a advanced form of what Kyoshi used. Where not only could they kill people in a instant using their own blood, but also move them around like puppets.
She should not have killed the person as he was still able to be saved from himself. She should have just used the tears that they cried to save her friends. Big brain.
A Wind Bending Technique What if you suck all the air Out of the room with your own Lungs and hold it till they die and can airbending not make like really powerfull noises to make other people go deaf and then attack them and then they will not know if there is a attack coming or not
maybe using minerals in a body to disintegrate one (rocks/crystals burst out)... or rapidly decay the body because of minerals present... theory indeed
You forgot the blood bending is the same from of water bending but it’s forbidden to use it the avatar the last airbender have no choice to take the bending away to prevent from happening again.
Imagine the new earth avatar having misidentified the avatar again, and this misidentified avatar becomes the first nemesis of the actual avatar. Imagine a Zuko type of villain, who draws their mastery in earthbending from all the four nations, and becomes a master earth bender willing to venge the avatar.
Using blood bending to cause a heart attack . Also , u don't need blood bending to kill , I mean freezing the water inside the mouth of a person , essentially choking them
I have a question. i watched the avatar shows and read the comic about zukos mother. But how do you get all this information on avatar? Is it the comics? If so I’m gonna read all of them
It’s kinda like the killing curse. It depends on the context when it’s used. No tool is inherently evil only the actions the wielder makes. Sometimes you have to take a life to save a life and that’s just how the world works.
kyoshi learned the secret to immortality and never telling any other avatar. Not like she can tell anyone after korra anymore because korra fucked up the avatars past lives
Kyoshi makes Aang and Korra ´s childhood seem so happy and joyable.
Aang's early childhood was great. But he literally saw his entire kin killed while he stayed frozen. Not so straight up easy childhood, I'd say.
@@pratikvora9404not easy for almost all Avatar
@@pratikvora9404 he didn´t see anything because he´s frozen, bro.
@@archerchu4181he did see the after math at the temple when he returned and put 2 and 2 together not even a idiot can mess that up
@@kostakonomi not the same as actually watching your friends or parents or guardians died though.
I think Kyoshi is the only Avatar who really got the "maintain the peace no matter what". When Aang was trying to confront Ozai without killing him, the previos Avatar from the nomads of the air told him: "You must sacrifice your spiritual necesities for the world, that's your job". Kyoshi probably was advice the for the same one.
And what did that bring? It weakened the Earth Kingdom and stopped it from modernization and was surpassed by the Fire Nation that at the time of the previous Fire Nation Avatar was just a nation divided by clans and warring tribes. Shin the Conqueror could have unified the Earth Kingdom for all we know. She also created the Dai Li which led to the fall of the Earth Kingdom but also supported a corrupt Queen which led to the anarchy of Ba Sing Se.
@@scorpioninpink Yeah... and Aang made a metropolis that made the divide between bender and nonbenders even more apparent.
It is easy to call out the errors and consequences of the past... another thing completely is live during a time were the only way a leader would be heard was trough force.
Kyoshi made decisions, and between those decisions there were consequences, Roku lived a very peaceful period because of Kyoshi's actions, and many would argue that he should have killed or at least prosecuted Sozin when he first started his conquest, instead he let him live... and we all know what happened next.
Pointing out consequences does not means certain actions were wrong, it just shows that life isn't easy or a binary choice.
@@scorpioninpink those consequences weren't immediate. They happened after long period of corruption. Because of kyoshi, Roku had a relatively peaceful life. All avatars made decisions with the worlds best interest in mind but you have to remember that they also come with their own set of consequences. Since you know what happened with Aang and Kora I'll tell you what happened with the 4 before them.
Yangchen was born during a time of horrible political strife and mass gang wars, she was very harsh with her choices but it was because of that even some semblance of order was brought through out the land.
However some of her choices also severely angered spirits and the fall out had to be shouldered by Kuruk who battled them alone in silence. It was because of this that Kuruk went down as one of the most worthless and unnoteworthy avatars to ever exist.
Kyoshi wasn't even recognized as an avatar until late into her life. Yes she made some questionable decisions but you have to remember she wasn't thinking about corruption with in her own faction because of the absolute trust she had in them. Shin the conqueror was a murderous tyrant and no tyrant unifies a land without the people under him suffering for it in tenfold. You're right, the Earth kingdom would be unified , but at what cost?
Roku was a famous pacifist, a noteworthy feat considering where he was born and what emotions they prioritize for powerful bending. With him he brought happiness but it was also because of his pacifism that the world later fell into great despair.
No one can be perfect and only fools point out another's every fault ignorant to the others as well.
I mean, Aang wanted to end the war more as an Airbender, in a way, than the avatar, for a reason. Ozai wanted another genocide, and Aang's entire people were slaughtered for being perceived as weak. He wanted to show air nomad ways weren't weak, and deserved to live on.
At least, that's how I saw it v
@@zodiac5403kuruk said himself he was lazy though because times were so peaceful and he only went into action when koh stole his girlfriend's face....
honestly thats one of the reasons i like the kyoshi books they actually go in depth into different bending ability's instead of just the same power or literal lasers
Source? I have no idea where any of this is coming from, this that new kyoshi show coming out?
@@preciousbees5721 it's the book rise of kyoshi they have it free on audible
@@AsiaThinks yeah for the comment and the video as a while LOLLLL thank you 🙏🏾
no one replied to you but there are several novels@@preciousbees5721
That and they do a great job at maintaining the spirituality aspect of bending. Like LoK had a lot of different bending techniques, even new ones like lava bending, but the show just treated them like superpowers and now an extension of character's personality or growth. Yun is able to come up with new techniques like paint bending because its a reflection and natural growth of his high levels of intelligence and precision, while Bolin is able to discover how to lava bend instead of metal bending because....reasons.
The earth kingdom doesn’t have a good track record of finding the avatar. I feel like this is going to happen again in the new Avatar series featuring an earth avatar that was announced. Also, Kyoshi bending the liquids in someone’s body would make her the first known blood bender.
I have doubts the next avatar series will happen
@@thetheorizermoore7476have you not been keeping up? Supposedly somethings cooking up
They didn't support the storyline of Genji it was already so good!
@@thetheorizermoore7476bro it's already 75 percent done. The legend of genji. Keep up sir.. I believe that they are trying to do a series with every element as a core.
@@PPG1192 the legend of genji isnt an official series... its fanmade. Avatar Studios is doing something different
I think the brutality in the avatar franchise and universe is what makes it so good its really realistic
Nah. Worldbuilding, character development, themes, choreography, unique setting, music, storytelling...Is why the franchise is so good.
@@almas4663 perfectly sums it all up 👌
I won't call the world of Avatar "brutal". The show is still made for kids; and their not going to go really brutal with the setting.
Except for every girl apparently being lesbian.
@@There_Is_No_War_In_Ba_Sing_Se According to post-korra retcons, gays were common in the Avatar world, until one day "evil homophobe Sozin" stopped this...
I hate Michael and Brian
If bloodbending is using the water in our blood/bodies, you could entirely freeze people. Like standing popsicles! You could also freeze single organs as well, like if someone is chasing you….freeze some water in the muscles of their legs, incapacitating them. Freezing someone’s heart would be awesome, you could give your enemies a “brain freeze” as well!
You could also remote smoothie people
I see what you did there lol 😂
Frost bite?
The precision and control it would take to this in a fight would be insane without just brutally murdering someone on accident lol
Yes
She killed him because she thought if she let him live he would be continuously tortured by his past and might even continue to try to execute those who lied to him she thought by killing him he would obtain peace in death which he could no longer obtain in life I definitely wouldn’t say it was the best solution
Right. There are some other options she could've tried first. Like putting him on probation, getting help that he needed to work through his own trauma for starters. Using murder only as a last result if he was about to go on a killing spree again. I agree with Aang, there are some cases where murder isn't the only option out there in dealing with foes like that. Fun was betrayed by those he thought cared for him, but there could still have been a chance to save him without murder. Kyoshi can be a bit too hardcore for my taste at times.
She delayed killing him as long as possible but when he hurt Rangi she straight up one-shoted him brutally.
@@danzack900 I think in the end, she was only ever trying to do what she thought was right
@@TsukabuNosoratori2and take the chance of him taking multiple innocents lives in the process… I think not if she could take his bending or seal him somehow yeah but other than that he’s unpredictable and left unchecked would’ve became a murderer
She killed him because he proved multiple times over that he didn't care about anyone but himself and was going to keep hurting and killing people until his arbitrary goal of "vengeance" was satisfied. What you said wasn't anywhere in the book.
Kyoshi have lived in pain all her life. Trying to kill those precious to her was a bad move by Yun and he probably got what's coming. Should've just stick with killing those who betrayed him.
is there a place i can read this incident or it's all made up stories form the avatar franchise?
@@makindefortune4732 Assuming this all comes from the Rise of Kyoshi novels
@@makindefortune4732This specific piece is from the novel Shadow of Kyoshi, though I suggest reading Rise of Kyoshi as it gives a lot of context to what is going on here. Both are fantastic reads however, and definitely something I suggest for any fan who wants to delve deeper into this universe (especially in a way the animated series never would be allowed too).
@@Timmir00 thanks
@@Timmir00 where can i read them?
dying from an internal frostbite is absolutely scary, imagine a waterbender doing this to their foe, that would be traumatic to witness, or a water/bloodbender just crushing the internal organs
Yep, it actually terrified me while making this video. Just image a slow pain snowflaking out in every direction from your insides, before a shard of ice pierces your back 😭
They could just up and one day freeze the water in your brain😩😢😱
I like it. It contrasts how Aang struggled with the idea of killing Ozai and how adamant he was that there are non-violent solutions when everyone around him, including previous avatars told him he has a forced hand.
and Kyoshi was earth, the contrast to air.
1:58 the things you do to save your one true pair. Rangi and Kyoshi really were perfect for each other.
*cough* that one scean where kiyoshi misunderstood what Rangi meant.
They deserved to live longer lives with each other :(
Kyoshi's decisiveness in both healing and in conflict is the main reason she was the G.O.A.T.
I love Kyoshi. I wish they made a movie or show about her
You get a sub because you don't waste time droning about shit, you go straight to the point. Thank you
😁 Thank you, glad you enjoyed the video!
This is actually very true. More content creators like this!
2:00 she wasnt just a "friend" it was confirmed that she liked both Rangi and Yun but in the end she loved Rangi (you can see her with kyoshi on 0:20) more
Kyoshi. Mistress of having zero chill.
I think she froze him as a way of numbing him to spare him the pain from what she was doing. She's nobel.
I like that these darker bending arts are being explored. Remember these are the most powerful people in the nations, they have otherworldly abilities. The reason Aang is so scary in his prime is because he’s a pacifist it’s his battle and struggle not to use the overwhelming power to get his way.
Power changes people and when you wield such power to change the very fabric of society that’s worth exploring in this medium.
I want it to go darker as that shows the depth of struggling to juggle such power with what people and the majority would deem too far or not far enough it’s a delicate balancing act
i love how you've put it
@@sciencenerd777 ☺ Thank you! It would be cool to see what new writers could do with the established world, I'd love to see what directions things move towards.
Still really think the next earth avatar should be a sand bender it would be so cool to see a final battle take place by a beach so they can use the water and sand for attacks and if they can possibly make glass from heating the sand
I just feel it could make the character so dynamic with a past of being one of the sand people/raiders then supposed to save the world
We need animated full series of Kyoshi rn!
As in yesterday 😭
Fr fr fr,
Honestly Kyoshi was a MENACE. She definitely was the strongest avatar to have lived in my eyes.
She had the coldest mindset but Aang is technically the “strongest”
@@eyeballtreehouse111 She is the strongest, actually. It is a confirmed feat
@@eyeballtreehouse111 Aang doesn't even come near to be strongest than Korra imagine being strongest than Kyoshi lmao
Water and Air bending be looking so chill and mild but they deadly . They are life and death. 😭
I remember reading this in the book series about her early years, and it was a shocking moment, but really cemented what kind of person Kiyoshi was, and everything that had led her to this point. She did what she had to do to not only save the people she loved, but to save the world, as it wouldn't have stopped there if she'd let him go.
"We'll add those to the list of forbidden things Kyoshi used."
"Oh come on there are only four bendings it won't even be much of a list."
"Forbidden drugs?"
"Okay five is still not a list."
"Forbidden weapons? Forbidden combat techniques?"
"Okay fine I see your point."
"Forbidden ritual? Forbidden spiritual manipulation? It says here you created Dai Li so add forbidden propaganda to that. Also, should I place war crimes under forbidden strategies?"
Okay, but, Jianzhu was awesome. Honestly, if he didnt get on Kyoshi's bad side, he would have been one of the most effective leaders in Earth Kingdom History
Thank You!
He did most of Kuruk's avatar job and kept peace and order in the Earth kingdom.Kyoshi herself admitted he was improving it.She even reluctantly inherited his ruthlessness when she decided to blackmail,threaten and sometimes kill her enemies.If she didn't hate him for personal revenge reasons he would have had more use.
I can get behind some ruthlessness in politics, but there was no reason to abandon Yun to his (presumed) death. A child he'd raised practically as his own. It was an absolutely brutal decision, and there wasn't even any real practical benefit to justify it.
ETA: Unless you meant "awesome" in a villain sense, in which case I agree. He's extra compelling in that you can (usually) see where he's coming from and he had "good" motives for a long time.
I think Kyoshi was also one of the rare Benders at all that could have achieved eternal life, but she decided against, still living 200yrs and staying young
It seems that Roku would be the first avatar to be less brutal than the past avatars. Im sure that when he had council with Kyoshi he likely disapproved her tactics to ending conflicts. Im sure Kyoshi told Roku thus forbidden technique she used and Roku likely may have forsaken her. Roku would be more merciful, as we see innthe animated series as he gives Sozen a fair warning to prevent any conflict between them and other nations.
Honestly Roku's pacifism (or pacifism in comparison to Kyoshi), could've been his greatest downfall as well. I don't Sozin would've gotten as far as he had, and the Air Temples wouldn't have fallen. But in contrast, I could see the battle between benders and non benders happening sooner. Or even a battle between benders and the Avatar for their cruelty. Wanting the Avatar to be under a united nation's-like rule instead of making decisions themselves.
Kyoshi is still less brutal and ruthless than Yangchen though
@@leminhtai1518why you say that?
@@apollospyrol7168 Because that's how it is in the novels?
Sozin was Roku’s best friend, Kyoshi’s situation was much different
It was necessary. Jun would have killed everyone in the entire world out of insane revenge if Kyoshi had not stopped him.
That's a bit dramatic. Yun was a prodigy, but... The world?
@@androkguz Maybe not succeeded but a hell of a lot of innocent people would still have been slaughtered before he went down and Kyoshi knew that.
“Only justice will bring peace.”
@@androkguz Well he did absorb a spirit so bringing chaos to the world wouldn't be hard for him
Interesting...
This would also make her one of the most powerful blood blenders known to the avatar world...
If I'm understanding it, she takes the water from your very blood and then condenses it so tight and freezes it all the way to the point to where its smashes out of your back... Ripping flesh and bone as it goes through...
Creating giant crimson wings kind of like a blood eagle.
I really like this ability it's very bad ass, and the fact that Kiyoshi knew it just shows on the type of avatar she is.
Honestly, it is a no-brainer.
Likewise, logically, earth benders should be able to rip out bones, since they are made of minerals that they can control.
Air benders should just kill people instantly?
Why? Vacuum. Vacuum == no atmospheric pressure == blood begins boiling internally.
Avatar suffers from “Harry Potter” syndrome, where the show is about child soldiers going through war, but completely dismissed the real horrors of what that entails.
Likewise, very few shows depict how super powers would act on human body. It is only a recent trend with “Invincible” and more notably “The Boys” that depict those abilities well enough.
For example, In Gen V, blood benders just explode people to bits, among other things they can do.
Nah, its not blood bending at all. Just a healing technique that lowers your body temp. Its super easy to screw up, and if you do it flash freezes your organs. Pretty much any advanced water bender could do it if they learned how.
Love Kyoshi and her novels so much I’m reading them for a third time !
Kyoshi whispered: "I'm sorry I said you had to live with your pain"
Yun moved close to her to hear her more clearly
Then she said "... because you won't"
Seems very on the nose for Kyoshi
@@jaquanthomas5988 it's what she said
What Kyoshi did was basically bloodbending, but up close.
Waterbending is so op, cause you could literally just Freeze people and they just became popsicles
Same with any bending.
Earth bending - rip out all bones, since they are made of minerals.
Air bending - create vacuum and kill people with explosive decompression. For those who don’t know - no air/atmospheric pressure == blood’s boiling point lowers to body temperature == all of your blood turns into vapor internally == death. That is how early jet pilots and unlucky space explores died.
Fire bending - instead of casting fire ball, just create fire inside your opponent. Body will explode Superman-style, since it’s internal temperature just got raised by a few thousand degrees, causing all of it’s contents to evaporate.
Logically any bending should be “instant-kill”.
The show is very kid friendly, which is what results in this gimmicky non-lethal balance.
However, powers in Avatar universe got nerfed so hard, to the point where real life firearms and explosives are just 9/10 times better.
curious question : imagine if the water bender put a poison in the water it used, wouldn't that made the ice blade that shoot out of the water more deadly (in case it scratched your skin and such), also would poison even works as well, especially the more watery type of poison ?
Damn this is clever.
This could work. Hopefully your opponent isn't a waterbender though!
Kiyoshi was so moe as a youth, and yet all the stories emphasize her brutality.
“Every lie we tell incurs a debt to the truth. Sooner or later that debt is paid.” -a wise man
It's crazy to think that this was one of Aang's previous lives. Just makes me wonder how brutal an Avatar could get considering the fact that there were hundreds of them, each with different personalities and morals.
You should read the books to get full context on why Kyoshi did that and what happened afterward
But if you wanna know how brutal or ruthless an Avatar can be, I recommend reading The Dawn of Yangchen and The Legacy of Yangchen
We call what she did "offensive healing"
😂😂😂
Avatar creators are definitely sleeping on an entire series of Avator Kyoshi
That's worse than when Zaheer took the earth queen's breath away 😬
Rated R Avatar would be crazy
Water and Air bending on the scale of the Avatar are the most dangerous forms of bending one allows you bending very blood within people and the other allows you to take the air out of their lungs … that’s some scary shit
Just imagine the bunch of drama that could've been skipped if Rokku, Aang and (OH LORD!!!) Korra had just given full control to Kyoshi
So Kyoshi is literally the most cut throat and brutal Avatar lol she kills by any means .. damn!
Avatar “lesser of two evils” Kyoshi 👑🐐
Water was always so OP in TLA, it was fortunate that it was the fire nation (that literally everyone had some defense against) that became the militaristoc expansionists.
Kuvira's army was unstopabble even Mako struggled with regular soldier 1v1 (BOlin too but he was lack of earth inside that giant platinum mecha)
if Korra didnt stopped Kuvira her army may be conquered the world
Imagine bending boiling hot water at people. Waterbending is op
Saw the caption and honestly learning how Kioshi caught bodies is a weird hobby at this point 💀🤣🤣🤣🤣
I heard it differently kiyoshi lied to him saying that she learned of a technique that would transfer her Avatar abilities to him by simply placing her right hand on his heart when she did that she froze his heart and lungs when took his last breath it look like if he was in a freezer that just showed how cold and dangerous waterbending can be so don't anger a waterbending master especially if they are the avatar🪨🔥🌪️❄️
Na, read the book. Rangi suffered major damage and Kyoshi decided to kill Yun, after an entire book of tryna redeem him or something
Just proves all bending are equally dangerous as they are helpful
A house knife can be as dangerous as it is helpful.
Same with superpowers
id love a series about kyoshi
Yun got dunked on
Good Lord that was brutal. 😰
I feel that Avatar series can be dark if they were to go back in time. The new avatars are soft not Aang tho. Can’t wait for Kiyoshi movie to come out. And yes at the time it was necessary, we earth types don’t like wasting time, we move slow but come with massive amounts of forces to get the job…remember what Toph said to Aang on training day
Kyoshi was the best avatar and she take shit from nobody and she don't wait for miracles to happen, she made them happen.
I hope someone makes a video about how Father Glowworm is responsible for the Avatar’s large scale losses
What's a fucked idea is instantly freezing the water inside of a person.... or worse, separating the water from a person causing a pretty painful death.
Kyoshi needs her own series
Just when I think I can't love her anymore.
I'm so happy they have her in the netflix series
Kyoshi pulled a Sub-Zero on this boy!
I want a kyoshi animated series ugh
The only reason why did this happen was because she was so leanient in first place.
I want a Kyoshi series so badly
Wait, did Avatar Kyoshi just turned Yun's blood... INTO ICE?!?!??!
Kyoshi was way too quick to violence and threats. I mean honestly I don’t think she had any business killing yun especially when his motives resulted from pain and not from pure evil like azulon or ozai.
That’s so awesome!!!! I think I agree with everyone when we say Avatar isn’t on Nickelodeon anymore let’s make this series the way it’s supposed to be!! Give us more of this animated I def still wanna see after the 100 war animated it only gets more interesting and imagine spin-offs of past Avatars 😩😩 we need at least spin-offs of Kiyoshi , Yang-Chen, and MORE Roku and honestly forgot the Water Avatar’s name the one who had faced Koh ya we want more of that too. On top of all the stuff we are already getting 😁😁😁😁 pleaseeeeeee 🙏🏽
Well we already have novels about Kyoshi and Yangchen. Kuruk's life was told in Kyoshi's novels. His life is too short to have his own spin off
avatar Kiyoshi is so bad ass. i want a full season of her story
Two amazing books
Agreed!
Just a question to persons more knowledgeable. Can earth benders control bones? That would be a sick ability
I guess bones are (as a material) comparable with wood... it could theoretically be possible to bend bones and even flesh, but for most earthbenders it's way too hard to sense that "grain of earth" within bone (considering that metalbending is hard enough)
Kyoshi was not the only one who used this type of waterbending, as it Ang's time there were waterbenders who were also known as "bloodbenders" where they bend the vary blood of people/animals which is a advanced form of what Kyoshi used. Where not only could they kill people in a instant using their own blood, but also move them around like puppets.
Except they usually just moved people around. Deep freeze is a whole another thing
Anyone else feel bad for both kyoshi and the other jun😞
She should not have killed the person as he was still able to be saved from himself. She should have just used the tears that they cried to save her friends.
Big brain.
A Wind Bending Technique What if you suck all the air Out of the room with your own Lungs and hold it till they die and can airbending not make like really powerfull noises to make other people go deaf and then attack them and then they will not know if there is a attack coming or not
Just imagine if the next avatar after korra ends
Up using the most forbidden form of earth bending
maybe using minerals in a body to disintegrate one (rocks/crystals burst out)... or rapidly decay the body because of minerals present... theory indeed
Ripping out minerals from bones then
Yun had to deal with so much stuff he should have not died
DAMN, that was cold
Where do you get this information?
It does explain why she was so adamant about taking responsibility for her actions.
How did I have NO CLUE about this 😭😭
Thank you for covering this, my stupid self learned something
what's the art from?
You forgot the blood bending is the same from of water bending but it’s forbidden to use it the avatar the last airbender have no choice to take the bending away to prevent from happening again.
I need to re-read the Kyoshi novels
I need a kyoshi series or movie now!
The Kyoshi series don’t come out until the year after the next year
She reminds of Logan wolverine when he promised that prisoner he can kill striker and everyone else that prisoner hates
1:04 so… the plot to Kung fu panda 1?
This is basically the first Kungfu panda movie.
do you edit ur videos upside down?
What do you mean?
@@AvatarStarYT r u australian
Oh 😂😂 yes
Imagine the new earth avatar having misidentified the avatar again, and this misidentified avatar becomes the first nemesis of the actual avatar. Imagine a Zuko type of villain, who draws their mastery in earthbending from all the four nations, and becomes a master earth bender willing to venge the avatar.
Nickelodeon should make Avatar kyoshi story, after aang and korra
01:57 What is that anime?
Using blood bending to cause a heart attack .
Also , u don't need blood bending to kill , I mean freezing the water inside the mouth of a person , essentially choking them
Well, at least she didin't use bloodbending.
Kiyoshi really don't give any attantion to the world, she was onpy focused on to her island. I realpy did not understand her standing point or logic
I have a question. i watched the avatar shows and read the comic about zukos mother. But how do you get all this information on avatar? Is it the comics? If so I’m gonna read all of them
It's a book series. The first novel is called The Rise of Kyoshi and the second one is called The Shadow of Kyoshi.
She was in her baddie era 💅
Great art in this video? Who's the artist, though? You don't seem to source it.
It’s kinda like the killing curse. It depends on the context when it’s used. No tool is inherently evil only the actions the wielder makes. Sometimes you have to take a life to save a life and that’s just how the world works.
Hello,there fellow potterhead
kyoshi learned the secret to immortality and never telling any other avatar. Not like she can tell anyone after korra anymore because korra fucked up the avatars past lives
as someone who read the whole book she did the right thing
The books were great, I loved the brutality
Is this in the book?
Yes, the Kyoshi trilogy :D
0:28 did the Avatar Genji comics steal the idea from the Kiyoshi trilogy? I think they said they were influenced by it if I‘m not mistaken