2 things: 1: if you have access to a Nitro Max and a Titan 50 at the same price, then go Titan. at normal pricing Alesis seems to be cheaper in most music stores 2: Alesis confirmed to me that the OG Nitro expansion pack is compatible with the MAX. The say BFD Player (if you own a nitro max) comes with the Dark Mahogany sound pack other people don't get for free. And they claim no tom rims are better because it lowers volume. I'd rather them personally but that's their view on it.
Most of the time, it seems influencers SAY they’re giving a fair review, but they’re really just trying to sell a product. This review seemed legitimately honest to me. You told us Alesis sent you the kit for review, then you pointed out all the underwhelming issues about it. That’s refreshing. 👍🏻 FWIW, my wife bought me this kit for Xmas. So far, I like it, but coming from an acoustic kit I’ll say there are some noticeable limitations with the Alesis. For me, the most notable one is the hi hat pedal is not as sensitive and nuanced as I’d like, ALL the cymbal pads SHOULD BE chokable in my opinion, and there should be a dedicated ride cymbal pad with a bell zone.
Just got one myself and the ride is super weird. Have to hit really hard for the bell and instead of 3 zones like a normal ride, it only has 2. I definitely agree about the hi hat and pedal. Very sloppy feeling and not nearly responsive enough. It's an ok practice kit but is very hit and miss on almost everything. Seems every kit varies a lot
Hint: The Max module is dual zone. The pads aren't. I thought as much when I noticed that the cables had stereo jacks - I plugged one of my Roland dual zone pads into the 1st tom and it's two different sounds - the rim and the center! Alesis very sneaky - they're probably going to re release this kit in 2024 as the Max 2 with dual zone pads. 🤣So this module can be used with almost any dual zone pads. I haven't tested all the cymbals yet, I tested one crash and it was single zone, and so was the ride . (I have 3 crashes and a ride) So this is very interesting. 😊👍🏻
Can you let me know if the hi hat is continuous or just the 3 zone stuff you got in the past? Both for the stock pedal but also if you use a proper continuous pedal as well. Thanks!
It's 3 zone, hi hats don't bother me as much as other drummers, as long as they work the same as acoustic hats, which they do, then it's fine. It's 3 zone.
@@IansDrumsandBass Thanks for checking! For me I would like fine hi hat control for proper expression. It's a shame you have to pay big bucks to get that when I imagine there's a potentiometer in the pedal, it's just that the modules have been coded to chop it up into 3 zones, even over MIDI!
A careful assembly of the rack makes a huge difference in the final result and the rack becomes much more solid. First insert the rubber feet correctly so that the pillars are straight and aligned in relation to the ground. Then use a spirit level (preferably laser) and a square to align the pillars and horizontal bars, tightening the screws alternately and little by little. The result is a much more solid rack than just taking it out of the box, eye aligning everything and tightening the screws. The difference is day and night. The snare bar does not need to be diagonal, it can be aligned with the top bar and tied to the top bar. The snare bar will not wobble even a millimeter and the snare will stay in the same position as with the snare bar positioned diagonally. And for even more solid rack, fill the 4 pillars with 1 or 2 KG of sand or lead little balls.
With the kick tower, you can easily replace it with like a $60 Yamaha pedal. It works perfectly fine or something a little bigger. It will let you do a double bass pedal.
Your tips are great! For a new drummer this really helped me. I got this kit two weeks ago and love it. When I told the dude which kit I wanted he was ticked he had to pull it out of the back and tried to sell me a Mesh instead. Gotta move that old product! I've seen comments about the snare arm on other reviews as well. Fortunately it didn't happen for me. As a totally new drummer, hooking it into BFD and getting that all setup has been my main headache. Downloading the included Dark Mahogany set was not the best for someone used to downloads being on the app itself. Even though BFD has the Max on its list, my set doesn't seem to want to trigger the sounds most of the time. I could have a faulty USB in the back of the module.
Your USB cable could be the problem. Also your pad sensitivity settings could be the problem. My snare arm is holding its place well, but I can pinch water from a stone. So tightening the clamp down is not a problem for me. Some guys just have weak hands and their booger pickers can’t tighten the clamp enough. This kit has its shortcomings because EVERYTHING does, but it’s a good kit. It’s certainly plenty to learn on and (depending on the type of band you play with) you can gig with it.
@@totallyfrozen Yeah it was a crap cable. Like I said about being a new drummer, everything was just new to me. All good now. Replaced the USB cable, figured out the unintuitive software and I'm happily taking lessons a few months in. What part of, "I got this kit a few weeks ago and love it" is eluding you? I adore the kit but have justified criticisms. Pretty rude comments from you. Have a better one, homie.
I have this kit, and I really like the choke feature on the crash cymbal and like you said the sensor is very small and hard to put your hand on the right spot so I decided to put a small piece of tape on where you can choke the cymbal, and it helped massively.
At last a more critical review for this set. Many of the others I came across seem to be payed off. I mean for me it's all too late after all as I already have this set but fortunately I'm quite happy with it. I also have a few remarks regarding the set and the review: 1. You didn't mention that for a beginner (that's me) 90 days of drumeo worth what - 90$ or so? - is a nice add-on. So are the other ones. And BFD has an additional set you normally have to pay for. The bonus content is a really nice touch for me 2. I haven't had any problems with the snare arm, however the whole rack seems a bit unstable. I managed to tighten the screws and it holds together, could be a bit more sturdy though. 3. The rack is too small for me. I'm 187 cm tall (6f1in) and I was having trouble placing all the elements so that they didn't interfere with each other and were easily accessible for me. Also the rack could be higher, the snare is pretty low. Then again it's a feature of most E-kits, I guess. 4. There are many sets to choose from on the module and many sounds for each set but for me it wasn't really easy to put together a set that would sound right. I mean until I got into advanced settings but still... But that's probably me. 5. The hi-hat pedal is definitely not responsive enough, sometimes I just can't feel it right. Also the bass drum kick is double kicking on me - I guess my technique is still lousy and I have to try your solution for it too. 6. Last but not least - I really couldn't find anything priced 400$ that could beat that set. At least not where I live which is central Europe. All the cheaper sets didn't have the kick tower and the module was considerably weaker. I'm well aware of the aggressive marketing Alesis introduced for this model but as a beginner I'm really happy with it and I believe it has a very good value for the price.
As all, a musician, a tech nerd, AND a mechanic, DO NOT @2:13 "really crank down" the fasteners. This is ONLY going to lead to premature wear, stripping the threads, and or otherwise putting too much strain on the fastener it's self. It is only plastic. Further, the cymbals fasteners + felts are made in such a way to absorb impact, and part of that is them "flopping" out of the way. You don't want them rigid, this just stores all the kinetic energy from the stick, and doesn't give it anywhere to give. This will lead to premature cracking in the materials where you strike them. If you REALLY feel like it is too floppy, you need to add more felt pads before "really cranking it down". That is the absolute worst thing you could do if you intend to keep this kit around for a while. This also applies to a REAL drum set too, as in, the ones where the hardware is literally made of metals and the cymbals are literally made of metals. Even there, you don't over tighten ANYTHING. I've had to replace a loooooooot of cymbals far before I should have strictly because over-tightening. In fact, it's even worse on a real cymbal because they are made in such a way that the vibration smoothly travels around the circumference, but when over-tightened, this vibration is abruptly interrupted and the energy goes straight into either the fastener or the bell of the cymbal, effectively muting it as well. I've been drumming for over 15 years now, and one lesson I learn is in the world of drumming, the only thing you want tight is your rhythm.. and maybe your snare head(also bad for it but sounds nice.) Don't over-stress these things, guys.
I ended up getting this a few weeks ago to replace an old simmons kit that I used to play at church. It was a medeli rebranded kit of some kind with rubber pads and some similar sounds, and boy is the upgrade noticable. Sure it's a low end module, but the menus and other interface elements are simple to navigate and memorize which is good since I am blind, and more advanced systems can be difficult for me to get around. I got the expantion pack with mine, though it did take some adjusting to get the tom 4 pad installed and set in a position that is cumfertable for me to play. I'm also going to take the kit with me pretty soon when I go to school, and I bought a yamaha KU-100 beaterless kick unit to replace the tower for that set up so I don't get in trouble for playing in the dorm building too loudly. I do have a bit of an issue where the rack seams to lean and feel a little bit unstable, but not so much that it effects playability. I am using 5 inch bed rizers to increase the hight.
I actually like the lack of rim on the toms as I have the old Nitro kit and found that with 8" pads and that super high rim that I was whacking them constantly and ruining my sticks or just making noise etc. It kinda made the experience less than I felt it could have been. It also made playing harder because I had to really be precise where I was hitting the pad. I think these new pads would be more enjoyable for beginner e-drum players. I don't use mine anymore, but keep them in case I end up wanting or needing a pad for another sound, or I have a trigger break I can use as temporary back up.
Here’s one major thing to remember about EDrums #1 Roland is by far the best, However almost ALL of the Roland Modukes will work with damn near all the various companies pads and cymbals save for Yamaha… I for instance started with a Alused Alesis Nitro Mesh kit, upgraded the module to a used Roland to-07 and am working on replacing the cymbals and have replaced the Hihat with a Roland VH-11 and the Ride with a Roland CR-12 and the snare of with a Roland 6” dual zone Tom pad I forget which one… now I just run the midi out into my Mac Mini M2 and use Modo Drums
I used to have a ddrum dd5 e kit years ago and it had the same problem with the bar for the snare coming loose. What I did was I got a piece of paper and folded it down small to where it was thicker but it was able to slide in the with the bar so when you tightened it it stayed in place.
I'm pretty excited, Justin! And thankful you make these videos. After years and years and years of posting comments on your page, I am getting ready to buy an e-kit from Sweetwater. It's going to be the Yamaha DTX6-whatever whatever whatever (I can't remember all the numbers and/or letters that go after this particular e-kit) Hot damn, hot damn, hot diggity dang, I'm buying an e-kit! And I don't have to settle for some crap-ass Alesis/Donner/Simmons junk kit. ❤😂😊
I do like the new sound from the module, but I do think that the old module sounds are more timeless since I personally have played a lot of drum sets that are Medeli rebranded kits that have similar sounds as the serge, nitro, and others. This does retain some sounds from the older version.
The reason the Alesis Nitro style racks wobble, is firstly the weight of the kit, they weigh half as much as my Roland TD11KV. (but even that wobbles, but not as much) The second reason is because the T pieces on the kit that are on the vertical legs have positioning pieces that slide into the grooves on the crossbars - these are not a TIGHT FIT, hence the wobble that's virtually inescapable from. (there's too much play) IF you set it up pedantically, like I do - with a spirit level to see that the crossbars are 100% level, it should be a lot better. Also, be aware that the rubber boots on the vertical legs are not always pushed on properly, check that before assembling the kit and apply firm pressure to make sure they're in properly. (pushing down while it's on the ground works) After about a week or so, re - tighten everything, it takes a while before it settles down. The reason Alesis put the grooves in the cross peices, is to prevent the pads and the bars from sagging or moving - its a great idea, but the fit should have been more snug. I watched every single vdo on UA-cam about the Max, for about 2 weeks before I bought mine on Wednesday, and it's a great kit. You have to work on the sounds though, like most modules there are literally hundreds of sounds on them that you will never use. I also have a TD11KV, and I knew not to expect a mid speck Roland kit for $400 - that's not gonna happen! I have already built about 4 custom (user) kits and let me tell you this kit is giving my Roland a run for it's money. I'm super impressed, but if you don't know what sounds good and how to manipulate the sounds to create your own - you're pretty stuck, (like almost all kits) but for a lot of people the stock kits would be fine. I have already added a second crash from some old nitro spares I have using the spare trigger inputs, and will probably add a third too. 😊👍🏻
You should do a review about the new jobeky triggers, specifically the multi point, and 3 cone 4 spoke triggers. I’ve seen absolutely nothing about them online, and I would interested to see how to they hold up compared to other aftermarket triggers
I had things coming loose on their Alesis strike flagship. I sent them back because I couldn’t play them with everything coming loose all the time, especially the floor toms on the lower part of the rack.
Here’s one thing I learned about the choke Alesis cymbals on a Roland Module, I have been able to assign 2 diff instruments to the choke cymbals ( you just can’t choke anything but the one you place on the back, the second will trigger right where the choke sensor is)
As of today 11/10/23 Simmons titan 50 and Alesis nitromax 8pcs drum set kit both on sale for $399. On Guitar center I went today. Simmons Titan 50 on sale till 11/15/23 don't know about Alesis. Incase :) Thanks for the great review:)
I can’t believe you can buy all that for $400 that’s amazingly good value how ever you look at it . Would I buy one ? if I was skint yes I certainly would ! Also if your little darlings decide they wanna be ringo for the next couple of hours before there bored and moved onto the next thing they can weasel out of you then I wouldn’t feel to heart broken if I’d bought them this it’s certainly a very good starting point . 👍
It is a beginners kits but a very very good one. Of course there are a few negatives but that's why there are dearer options. I love this kit and am very curious to see what the pro ones do. My only negative is the snare arm is useless and you will need a snare stand.
It’s the snare bar connecter it’s made of plastic and when I got my old nitro mesh kit the arm would do this.Once I got a new one from Alesis no problem with it.
This is a hit and miss. They changed the rims because they were huge and people were hitting them…good. But they knew people were having trouble with the double bass pickup and didn’t do anything to change it.
Also the cymbals are still the same as they were for so many years now, and they either break easily, or hurt your fingers if you try to hit them at an acoustic velocity. Alesis barely did anything to this kit and it’s hard to say the improvements really improved anything
Trust me when I tell you, the old school DM six that I have feels a lot more cramped. The sounds on this particular kit are a lot better than the ones that I have on the DM6, but they’re still not great.
Behringer is working on a remake of the Pearl Syncussion SY-1 drum synth for Eurorack. ( eurorack is what is awesome about just getting an eDRUMin, i mean if you're into Analog Percussion Synthesis ....but you can still MIDI in, from your module, for an "Analog Hybrid" ) so many good tunes were recorded at the dawn of electronic drums, and that's what that sound is all about....analog tweak.
Just bought the alesis pro max after having the previous alesis drum kit. hopefully the snare drum doesn't come off like you say as it was a previous issue I had myself with my old kit, which ended up being the reason it broke. i might consider getting a snare stand...otherwise very nice revie
Hi! So i've been looking for begginner e drums for quite a while and all though i've heard mixed things about alesis' kick tower and double pedals I've found this the best, since I live in europe and dont have access to the simmons titan series. I have also heard you saying that these are not the kits for metalheads so I wanted to ask if there would be something better for begginer metalheads at this price range. Thanks a lot!
So what e-kit would you recommend for someone with a fair amount of experience who wants to start getting in to the double bass world of metal drumming but who doesnt want to spend a ton of money?
It’s not a terrible kit. I actually REALLY like the pads surprisingly. Sadly the one zone cymbals are a bust. But the rack made me wanna toss it out the window…..smh….unfortunately I’m bringing it back today. If the rack was actually sturdy I would keep it for a play around or travel kit. Decent sounds for the price. Perfect for the kids though. Great price also. 🤷🏽♂️ I was jamming 🤷🏽♂️ and even though the pads were single zone I plugged them in to the TD 17 just to see what would happen….it wasn’t 100% (didn’t mess with settings but that may have made a difference) buuuut it worked
The 4 legged rack is just lazy in design and bad looking. The tri-leg sturdy style kits (Carlsbro/Roland) are nicer looking and would’ve worked perfectly here.
I got this set for my 7 year old daughter and I feel like it was a good buy at the price point it was at the time. Locally, I was able to get it at a bit off MSRP. Great review and amazing tip on the kick threshold. I did notice the micro hits and I told her to ignore it, but now it's fixed, thanks for that. Documentation isn't wonderful and as a non-drummer dad I have 0 experience with these things. It was hard enough to become a youtube drum tech to set it up :D Great review!
Anyone tried putting a different bass drum on it so that you can play double bass? Like a Yamaha KP65 which I know works on the Nitro Mesh. I wonder if the same will apply here.
Hi Justin , Thanks for the honest review ....I am a beginner drummer looking to buy the first professional kit for playing live and practise ...Can you please share your opinion on carlsbro csd 500
Great review. Thankyou. I'm considering buying these for my daughter who is just starting to learn drums. Which would you recommend between a new nitro max and a used crimson II se?
Hey i was wondering if you know of any better options for a hihat replacment for this kit i have the goedrum controler but i was wondering if there any options that have the bottom cymbal that work for this kit please and thank you. Love your videos!!
I have been renting an Alesis Nitro for a while - I like to have fun with it and my 7-year old son is learning - and we want to get our own kit, and this one seems to be a great deal. Question: on the Nitro, I notice that if I want to hit the rim and the snare at the same time, it won't play both rim and snare sounds. I assume the module can't handle both sounds at the same time. Any idea if this newer module is any different?
Dm10 owner here. Was 600 when I got it. It has all the defects the dm10 is known for but the worst is the drum rack because it wiggles. Has Alesis actually fixed the triggering and crosstalk issues the DM10 has?
I know this is a really silly question I love music, don’t know the technicality’s and names. Can this kit when bought with expansion be plugged into an amp with the standard 6.5mm wires
Hi bro! I need to know if this edrum have VARIABLE CC on the hi-hat... I dont care the sounds of the module, we ALWAYS used a VST plugins, but I need a variable hi-hat, because we want to change the hat for a kinda of real Hi-HAT controller. Can you help me? And if not have this feature... Can you recommend a budget drum that have it? Thanks
2 things:
1: if you have access to a Nitro Max and a Titan 50 at the same price, then go Titan. at normal pricing Alesis seems to be cheaper in most music stores
2: Alesis confirmed to me that the OG Nitro expansion pack is compatible with the MAX. The say BFD Player (if you own a nitro max) comes with the Dark Mahogany sound pack other people don't get for free. And they claim no tom rims are better because it lowers volume. I'd rather them personally but that's their view on it.
Weather can be summery, this was a summary.
dont be a dick, thats just a typo@@JohnnyBGoode9
I was debating between this and the Titan 50. Ordered the Titan right before you uploaded this review and I'm glad to see I made the right choice!
@@JohnnyBGoode9 ok spelling guy, I fixed it ;)
@65Drums Just trying to help! Love the channel, didn't mean to sound snarky. Have trouble turning off the editor brain.
Most of the time, it seems influencers SAY they’re giving a fair review, but they’re really just trying to sell a product.
This review seemed legitimately honest to me. You told us Alesis sent you the kit for review, then you pointed out all the underwhelming issues about it. That’s refreshing. 👍🏻
FWIW, my wife bought me this kit for Xmas. So far, I like it, but coming from an acoustic kit I’ll say there are some noticeable limitations with the Alesis. For me, the most notable one is the hi hat pedal is not as sensitive and nuanced as I’d like, ALL the cymbal pads SHOULD BE chokable in my opinion, and there should be a dedicated ride cymbal pad with a bell zone.
Maybe she should of spent more money...what do you expect for a beginners kit? I think they are brilliant for the price.
Just got one myself and the ride is super weird. Have to hit really hard for the bell and instead of 3 zones like a normal ride, it only has 2. I definitely agree about the hi hat and pedal. Very sloppy feeling and not nearly responsive enough. It's an ok practice kit but is very hit and miss on almost everything. Seems every kit varies a lot
Hint:
The Max module is dual zone. The pads aren't. I thought as much when I noticed that the cables had stereo jacks - I plugged one of my Roland dual zone pads into the 1st tom and it's two different sounds - the rim and the center!
Alesis very sneaky - they're probably going to re release this kit in 2024 as the Max 2 with dual zone pads. 🤣So this module can be used with almost any dual zone pads. I haven't tested all the cymbals yet, I tested one crash and it was single zone, and so was the ride . (I have 3 crashes and a ride) So this is very interesting. 😊👍🏻
Can you let me know if the hi hat is continuous or just the 3 zone stuff you got in the past? Both for the stock pedal but also if you use a proper continuous pedal as well. Thanks!
It's 3 zone, hi hats don't bother me as much as other drummers, as long as they work the same as acoustic hats, which they do, then it's fine. It's 3 zone.
@@IansDrumsandBass Thanks for checking! For me I would like fine hi hat control for proper expression. It's a shame you have to pay big bucks to get that when I imagine there's a potentiometer in the pedal, it's just that the modules have been coded to chop it up into 3 zones, even over MIDI!
Love those ground breaking grammy nominated song they include 😊
I have an Alesis Crimson II SE kit and use a cheap bicycle phone mount that fits on my drum rack and works great
A careful assembly of the rack makes a huge difference in the final result and the rack becomes much more solid. First insert the rubber feet correctly so that the pillars are straight and aligned in relation to the ground. Then use a spirit level (preferably laser) and a square to align the pillars and horizontal bars, tightening the screws alternately and little by little. The result is a much more solid rack than just taking it out of the box, eye aligning everything and tightening the screws. The difference is day and night. The snare bar does not need to be diagonal, it can be aligned with the top bar and tied to the top bar. The snare bar will not wobble even a millimeter and the snare will stay in the same position as with the snare bar positioned diagonally. And for even more solid rack, fill the 4 pillars with 1 or 2 KG of sand or lead little balls.
very useful
the sounds are getting better! I actually like the rimless toms-the look is quite unique
Did you buy the max?
@@EddieSuri not yet. I’m waiting for a work bonus before I buy another kit
@@FranksDrumCave nice! Im debating on the Yamaha or Alesis nitro max. Got a simmons now but trying to upgrade
@@EddieSuri I’ve been using acoustic with an EAD10 and occasionally triggers, but neighbors want me to get an ekit again lol
With the kick tower, you can easily replace it with like a $60 Yamaha pedal. It works perfectly fine or something a little bigger. It will let you do a double bass pedal.
Your tips are great! For a new drummer this really helped me.
I got this kit two weeks ago and love it. When I told the dude which kit I wanted he was ticked he had to pull it out of the back and tried to sell me a Mesh instead. Gotta move that old product! I've seen comments about the snare arm on other reviews as well. Fortunately it didn't happen for me.
As a totally new drummer, hooking it into BFD and getting that all setup has been my main headache. Downloading the included Dark Mahogany set was not the best for someone used to downloads being on the app itself. Even though BFD has the Max on its list, my set doesn't seem to want to trigger the sounds most of the time. I could have a faulty USB in the back of the module.
Your USB cable could be the problem. Also your pad sensitivity settings could be the problem.
My snare arm is holding its place well, but I can pinch water from a stone. So tightening the clamp down is not a problem for me. Some guys just have weak hands and their booger pickers can’t tighten the clamp enough. This kit has its shortcomings because EVERYTHING does, but it’s a good kit. It’s certainly plenty to learn on and (depending on the type of band you play with) you can gig with it.
@@totallyfrozen Yeah it was a crap cable. Like I said about being a new drummer, everything was just new to me. All good now. Replaced the USB cable, figured out the unintuitive software and I'm happily taking lessons a few months in.
What part of, "I got this kit a few weeks ago and love it" is eluding you? I adore the kit but have justified criticisms.
Pretty rude comments from you. Have a better one, homie.
Me too - snare arm no problem at all.
All good to know. I am glad you brought up the point about it not being good for double bass too. Thanks for the in depth review!
If you hit the ride with the shoulder of your stick, you can much more easily trigger the bell sound with almost no extra force.
I have this kit, and I really like the choke feature on the crash cymbal and like you said the sensor is very small and hard to put your hand on the right spot so I decided to put a small piece of tape on where you can choke the cymbal, and it helped massively.
You can also use the 3 voices on the hi-hats. 1 closed 2 open 3 kick drum
At last a more critical review for this set. Many of the others I came across seem to be payed off. I mean for me it's all too late after all as I already have this set but fortunately I'm quite happy with it. I also have a few remarks regarding the set and the review:
1. You didn't mention that for a beginner (that's me) 90 days of drumeo worth what - 90$ or so? - is a nice add-on. So are the other ones. And BFD has an additional set you normally have to pay for. The bonus content is a really nice touch for me
2. I haven't had any problems with the snare arm, however the whole rack seems a bit unstable. I managed to tighten the screws and it holds together, could be a bit more sturdy though.
3. The rack is too small for me. I'm 187 cm tall (6f1in) and I was having trouble placing all the elements so that they didn't interfere with each other and were easily accessible for me. Also the rack could be higher, the snare is pretty low. Then again it's a feature of most E-kits, I guess.
4. There are many sets to choose from on the module and many sounds for each set but for me it wasn't really easy to put together a set that would sound right. I mean until I got into advanced settings but still... But that's probably me.
5. The hi-hat pedal is definitely not responsive enough, sometimes I just can't feel it right. Also the bass drum kick is double kicking on me - I guess my technique is still lousy and I have to try your solution for it too.
6. Last but not least - I really couldn't find anything priced 400$ that could beat that set. At least not where I live which is central Europe. All the cheaper sets didn't have the kick tower and the module was considerably weaker. I'm well aware of the aggressive marketing Alesis introduced for this model but as a beginner I'm really happy with it and I believe it has a very good value for the price.
Yeah I’m having the same issue where I live in the uk and there’s not many other options especially for the price
I am a guitar player but I really liked drums. Your video convinced me to seriously consider picking up this electronic drum kit!
I’m the same, I play guitar in a band but I’m really interested in learning the drums
me too
Bruh me too😂
Same here! I think guitarists like rhythm and timing, and percussion comes naturally.
Meeeetoooo
As all, a musician, a tech nerd, AND a mechanic, DO NOT @2:13 "really crank down" the fasteners. This is ONLY going to lead to premature wear, stripping the threads, and or otherwise putting too much strain on the fastener it's self. It is only plastic.
Further, the cymbals fasteners + felts are made in such a way to absorb impact, and part of that is them "flopping" out of the way.
You don't want them rigid, this just stores all the kinetic energy from the stick, and doesn't give it anywhere to give. This will lead to premature cracking in the materials where you strike them.
If you REALLY feel like it is too floppy, you need to add more felt pads before "really cranking it down". That is the absolute worst thing you could do if you intend to keep this kit around for a while.
This also applies to a REAL drum set too, as in, the ones where the hardware is literally made of metals and the cymbals are literally made of metals.
Even there, you don't over tighten ANYTHING. I've had to replace a loooooooot of cymbals far before I should have strictly because over-tightening.
In fact, it's even worse on a real cymbal because they are made in such a way that the vibration smoothly travels around the circumference, but when over-tightened, this vibration is abruptly interrupted and the energy goes straight into either the fastener or the bell of the cymbal, effectively muting it as well.
I've been drumming for over 15 years now, and one lesson I learn is in the world of drumming, the only thing you want tight is your rhythm.. and maybe your snare head(also bad for it but sounds nice.)
Don't over-stress these things, guys.
I actually like the no-rim toms. For a tiny, 8" tom with a rim, you almost always end up hitting the rim on accident.
Ya, I like how they don't have the rim I hate when I hit the rim on the toms
That display was used in a myriad of other modules and I suspect the software is also the same, just customized with sounds.
I ended up getting this a few weeks ago to replace an old simmons kit that I used to play at church. It was a medeli rebranded kit of some kind with rubber pads and some similar sounds, and boy is the upgrade noticable. Sure it's a low end module, but the menus and other interface elements are simple to navigate and memorize which is good since I am blind, and more advanced systems can be difficult for me to get around. I got the expantion pack with mine, though it did take some adjusting to get the tom 4 pad installed and set in a position that is cumfertable for me to play. I'm also going to take the kit with me pretty soon when I go to school, and I bought a yamaha KU-100 beaterless kick unit to replace the tower for that set up so I don't get in trouble for playing in the dorm building too loudly. I do have a bit of an issue where the rack seams to lean and feel a little bit unstable, but not so much that it effects playability. I am using 5 inch bed rizers to increase the hight.
I actually like the lack of rim on the toms as I have the old Nitro kit and found that with 8" pads and that super high rim that I was whacking them constantly and ruining my sticks or just making noise etc. It kinda made the experience less than I felt it could have been. It also made playing harder because I had to really be precise where I was hitting the pad. I think these new pads would be more enjoyable for beginner e-drum players. I don't use mine anymore, but keep them in case I end up wanting or needing a pad for another sound, or I have a trigger break I can use as temporary back up.
Me too, I almost took an angle grinder to them to cut them lower! 😂
Those rims really sucked, I didn't know what Alesis were thinking when they did that. 😱😱
Welcome to the world of real drums where there's rims.
@@DrummerBoyJustin Edrum rims or no rims immaterial to me, but acoustic tin cans? Never again.
the background looks fucking fenomenal. what an upgrade
Always professionally done Justin my favorite UA-cam channel
Here’s one major thing to remember about EDrums #1 Roland is by far the best, However almost ALL of the Roland Modukes will work with damn near all the various companies pads and cymbals save for Yamaha… I for instance started with a Alused Alesis Nitro Mesh kit, upgraded the module to a used Roland to-07 and am working on replacing the cymbals and have replaced the Hihat with a Roland VH-11 and the Ride with a Roland CR-12 and the snare of with a Roland 6” dual zone Tom pad I forget which one… now I just run the midi out into my Mac Mini M2 and use Modo Drums
I used to have a ddrum dd5 e kit years ago and it had the same problem with the bar for the snare coming loose. What I did was I got a piece of paper and folded it down small to where it was thicker but it was able to slide in the with the bar so when you tightened it it stayed in place.
Thanks for the heads up cause I just got the alesis
I'm pretty excited, Justin! And thankful you make these videos. After years and years and years of posting comments on your page, I am getting ready to buy an e-kit from Sweetwater. It's going to be the Yamaha DTX6-whatever whatever whatever (I can't remember all the numbers and/or letters that go after this particular e-kit) Hot damn, hot damn, hot diggity dang, I'm buying an e-kit! And I don't have to settle for some crap-ass Alesis/Donner/Simmons junk kit. ❤😂😊
Congrats on the new kit! Saving up the money for the good stuff is always worth it in the long run :)
Good choice! I'm also thinking of getting one of those.
I’m looking at getting a Roland td17kv2
I do like the new sound from the module, but I do think that the old module sounds are more timeless since I personally have played a lot of drum sets that are Medeli rebranded kits that have similar sounds as the serge, nitro, and others. This does retain some sounds from the older version.
Thank you for being honest 🍁
The reason the Alesis Nitro style racks wobble, is firstly the weight of the kit, they weigh half as much as my Roland TD11KV. (but even that wobbles, but not as much)
The second reason is because the T pieces on the kit that are on the vertical legs have positioning pieces that slide into the grooves on the crossbars - these are not a TIGHT FIT, hence the wobble that's virtually inescapable from. (there's too much play)
IF you set it up pedantically, like I do - with a spirit level to see that the crossbars are 100% level, it should be a lot better.
Also, be aware that the rubber boots on the vertical legs are not always pushed on properly, check that before assembling the kit and apply firm pressure to make sure they're in properly. (pushing down while it's on the ground works)
After about a week or so, re - tighten everything, it takes a while before it settles down.
The reason Alesis put the grooves in the cross peices, is to prevent the pads and the bars from sagging or moving - its a great idea, but the fit should have been more snug.
I watched every single vdo on UA-cam about the Max, for about 2 weeks before I bought mine on Wednesday, and it's a great kit. You have to work on the sounds though, like most modules there are literally hundreds of sounds on them that you will never use.
I also have a TD11KV, and I knew not to expect a mid speck Roland kit for $400 - that's not gonna happen!
I have already built about 4 custom (user) kits and let me tell you this kit is giving my Roland a run for it's money.
I'm super impressed, but if you don't know what sounds good and how to manipulate the sounds to create your own - you're pretty stuck, (like almost all kits) but for a lot of people the stock kits would be fine.
I have already added a second crash from some old nitro spares I have using the spare trigger inputs, and will probably add a third too. 😊👍🏻
Great review, as always. Thank you!
You should do a review about the new jobeky triggers, specifically the multi point, and 3 cone 4 spoke triggers. I’ve seen absolutely nothing about them online, and I would interested to see how to they hold up compared to other aftermarket triggers
I had things coming loose on their Alesis strike flagship. I sent them back because I couldn’t play them with everything coming loose all the time, especially the floor toms on the lower part of the rack.
Here’s one thing I learned about the choke Alesis cymbals on a Roland Module, I have been able to assign 2 diff instruments to the choke cymbals ( you just can’t choke anything but the one you place on the back, the second will trigger right where the choke sensor is)
For the choke they put dots on the rubber over where the censor is
yup, but that is a very small area and easy to miss when you're in a rush
As of today 11/10/23 Simmons titan 50 and Alesis nitromax 8pcs drum set kit both on sale for $399. On Guitar center I went today. Simmons Titan 50 on sale till 11/15/23 don't know about Alesis. Incase :) Thanks for the great review:)
How many sounds does an open hi-hat? not quiet-loud, but half-open and more open?
I can’t believe you can buy all that for $400 that’s amazingly good value how ever you look at it . Would I buy one ? if I was skint yes I certainly would ! Also if your little darlings decide they wanna be ringo for the next couple of hours before there bored and moved onto the next thing they can weasel out of you then I wouldn’t feel to heart broken if I’d bought them this it’s certainly a very good starting point . 👍
Which e-drum set do you recommend for metal then?
It is a beginners kits but a very very good one. Of course there are a few negatives but that's why there are dearer options. I love this kit and am very curious to see what the pro ones do. My only negative is the snare arm is useless and you will need a snare stand.
Justin, another outstanding review, as usual. Hey, how about doing a review on the Simmons Titan 70?
Love this channel!
Cant wait to watch! I love Alesis 😄
5:04 didn't happen to me, I think it's just yours, or I just got lucky
It’s the snare bar connecter it’s made of plastic and when I got my old nitro mesh kit the arm would do this.Once I got a new one from Alesis no problem with it.
This is a hit and miss. They changed the rims because they were huge and people were hitting them…good. But they knew people were having trouble with the double bass pickup and didn’t do anything to change it.
Also the cymbals are still the same as they were for so many years now, and they either break easily, or hurt your fingers if you try to hit them at an acoustic velocity. Alesis barely did anything to this kit and it’s hard to say the improvements really improved anything
Honestly I just picked this set up and I have a double kick connected and it sounds perfect on it
Lemon drums review?
maybe some day? not any time soon though, they've never reached out
Trust me when I tell you, the old school DM six that I have feels a lot more cramped. The sounds on this particular kit are a lot better than the ones that I have on the DM6, but they’re still not great.
Behringer is working on a remake of the Pearl Syncussion SY-1 drum synth for Eurorack.
( eurorack is what is awesome about just getting an eDRUMin, i mean if you're into Analog Percussion Synthesis ....but you can still MIDI in, from your module, for an "Analog Hybrid" )
so many good tunes were recorded at the dawn of electronic drums, and that's what that sound is all about....analog tweak.
For a beginner who doesn't want to upgrade his drums soon, which one would be better, Alesis Command or Alesis Nitro Max?
Just bought the alesis pro max after having the previous alesis drum kit. hopefully the snare drum doesn't come off like you say as it was a previous issue I had myself with my old kit, which ended up being the reason it broke. i might consider getting a snare stand...otherwise very nice revie
Hi! So i've been looking for begginner e drums for quite a while and all though i've heard mixed things about alesis' kick tower and double pedals I've found this the best, since I live in europe and dont have access to the simmons titan series. I have also heard you saying that these are not the kits for metalheads so I wanted to ask if there would be something better for begginer metalheads at this price range. Thanks a lot!
I bought the expansion pack of nitro mesh and amazon warehouse which is cheaper! Worked well and replaced one tom to use the dual zone as splash.
The Bluetooth bug with the volume is there in my Nitro max too. Guess it's a common issue.
What's your issue??
So these are worn with headphones?? Any tips if the doorbell rings ?
So what e-kit would you recommend for someone with a fair amount of experience who wants to start getting in to the double bass world of metal drumming but who doesnt want to spend a ton of money?
It’s not a terrible kit. I actually REALLY like the pads surprisingly. Sadly the one zone cymbals are a bust. But the rack made me wanna toss it out the window…..smh….unfortunately I’m bringing it back today. If the rack was actually sturdy I would keep it for a play around or travel kit. Decent sounds for the price. Perfect for the kids though. Great price also. 🤷🏽♂️ I was jamming 🤷🏽♂️ and even though the pads were single zone I plugged them in to the TD 17 just to see what would happen….it wasn’t 100% (didn’t mess with settings but that may have made a difference) buuuut it worked
Another review said the same thing about the rack.
The 4 legged rack is just lazy in design and bad looking. The tri-leg sturdy style kits (Carlsbro/Roland) are nicer looking and would’ve worked perfectly here.
@@jOHNNYDEM Is the rack just not useable? or only bad if your really beating the hell out of them? Assuming its sturdy enough for a beginner ?
@@codisfer use a different rack. That’s what we did.
I have the same issue with the snare arm on the nitro mesh kit.
I got this set for my 7 year old daughter and I feel like it was a good buy at the price point it was at the time. Locally, I was able to get it at a bit off MSRP. Great review and amazing tip on the kick threshold. I did notice the micro hits and I told her to ignore it, but now it's fixed, thanks for that. Documentation isn't wonderful and as a non-drummer dad I have 0 experience with these things. It was hard enough to become a youtube drum tech to set it up :D Great review!
at 2:35 you said that you wouldn't choose this drumset for metal. Why is that, and what electric kit would be better to use a double pedal with?
about the tray, I agree 100% i upgraded from td17 to a td27 and not having that stupid place on the module to put my phone on was so annoying.
Can you tell the difference between the td17 to td27?
this kit or roland 07kv ?
This one.
Anyone tried putting a different bass drum on it so that you can play double bass? Like a Yamaha KP65 which I know works on the Nitro Mesh. I wonder if the same will apply here.
Hi Justin , Thanks for the honest review ....I am a beginner drummer looking to buy the first professional kit for playing live and practise ...Can you please share your opinion on carlsbro csd 500
Great review. Thankyou. I'm considering buying these for my daughter who is just starting to learn drums. Which would you recommend between a new nitro max and a used crimson II se?
Hey i was wondering if you know of any better options for a hihat replacment for this kit i have the goedrum controler but i was wondering if there any options that have the bottom cymbal that work for this kit please and thank you. Love your videos!!
How about a comparison to the Roland TD-02K for the same price?
Hello, this kit or the Mellinium 750 ?
You didn’t mention anything about the Hi-hat. Could you give us your opinion on the hi-hat for this kit? Thanks.
I have been renting an Alesis Nitro for a while - I like to have fun with it and my 7-year old son is learning - and we want to get our own kit, and this one seems to be a great deal. Question: on the Nitro, I notice that if I want to hit the rim and the snare at the same time, it won't play both rim and snare sounds. I assume the module can't handle both sounds at the same time. Any idea if this newer module is any different?
Hi does it come with the cables as well to set up the drums module? Or do we have to buy those separately ?
Would you recommend this over the Alesis Surge SE?
It’s a Great kit. I am having the same issue with the snare always coming loose. Would any snare stand work? Or do you have to buy a specific stand.
Any can work. Just check inches
So between the Alesis Max and the Simmons 50 which one would you choose ???
what is a good affordable options for people who want to drum using a double bass for metal?
I was disappointed it does not have Bluetooth out so I can use wireless headphones
Bluetooth headphones add a latency delay. That's why no drum module supports them. And no keyboards either that I'm aware of.
Dm10 owner here. Was 600 when I got it. It has all the defects the dm10 is known for but the worst is the drum rack because it wiggles. Has Alesis actually fixed the triggering and crosstalk issues the DM10 has?
I just want one for rock band
Which electric drum set would be good enough with double pedals?
With a budget of $500 can you recommend an electronic set for a beginner/intermediate player? Thanks
I know this is a really silly question I love music, don’t know the technicality’s and names. Can this kit when bought with expansion be plugged into an amp with the standard 6.5mm wires
info whats the mic your using please? and recommend sound amp?
Hi bro! I need to know if this edrum have VARIABLE CC on the hi-hat... I dont care the sounds of the module, we ALWAYS used a VST plugins, but I need a variable hi-hat, because we want to change the hat for a kinda of real Hi-HAT controller. Can you help me? And if not have this feature... Can you recommend a budget drum that have it? Thanks
I donu... the rack seems so unstable and bouncy when you are playing. Very good review. Thank you!
Is there any way to adjust individual part sounds?
For some reason the kick is way louder than the rest: snare, hi hat, crash etc…
Hello, this kit or the millenium 750 ?
Which snare stand is best for this E-Kit? The snare pad is only 10 inch so most of the stands are too big i guess.
Roland rules
I have the Surge Alesis, which module should I upgrade to?
Has there been any talk about strike pro se or and any updates for the module ?
Seems like they took steps forward but also back. One of these days they'll get it right.
Alesis is confusing
This kit needs a sturdy, metal rack.
Starting and ending the beat in a song confuses me. How do you know when to start playing or when to join in in a song?
Can I use dual pedal on it??
The nitro max expanded is on sale for 450 right now. I really want the extra tom and ride. Is there a better option for under like 700?
Thank you for your in-depth review.
This kit in my country is the same price as the YAMAHA DTX452K. That being said, is it still worth for the mesh pads?
Is there any other bass pedal that is compatible with alesis max? Bigger one for double bass
What snare stand did you use? My snare pole keeps slipping
Sir i am confident between Alesis nitro max or carlsbro CSD 400 please suggest me tha best kit
Does the bluetooth still filter in your music and play along with the drums in your headphones if you're using midi out to a drum software program?
Which has the better module? Nitro Max or Surge?
Hey man what headphones are you using for the kit?
A pair of Roland headphones I reviewed 2 years back
I hit my cymbal hard but it doesn’t give the bell sound