Alesis Nitro Max Review
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- Опубліковано 26 жов 2023
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2 things:
1: if you have access to a Nitro Max and a Titan 50 at the same price, then go Titan. at normal pricing Alesis seems to be cheaper in most music stores
2: Alesis confirmed to me that the OG Nitro expansion pack is compatible with the MAX. The say BFD Player (if you own a nitro max) comes with the Dark Mahogany sound pack other people don't get for free. And they claim no tom rims are better because it lowers volume. I'd rather them personally but that's their view on it.
Weather can be summery, this was a summary.
dont be a dick, thats just a typo@@JohnnyBGoode9
I was debating between this and the Titan 50. Ordered the Titan right before you uploaded this review and I'm glad to see I made the right choice!
@@JohnnyBGoode9 ok spelling guy, I fixed it ;)
@65Drums Just trying to help! Love the channel, didn't mean to sound snarky. Have trouble turning off the editor brain.
Great review, as always. Thank you!
All good to know. I am glad you brought up the point about it not being good for double bass too. Thanks for the in depth review!
Always professionally done Justin my favorite UA-cam channel
Thank you for being honest 🍁
Cant wait to watch! I love Alesis 😄
Love those ground breaking grammy nominated song they include 😊
Love this channel!
I have an Alesis Crimson II SE kit and use a cheap bicycle phone mount that fits on my drum rack and works great
Most of the time, it seems influencers SAY they’re giving a fair review, but they’re really just trying to sell a product.
This review seemed legitimately honest to me. You told us Alesis sent you the kit for review, then you pointed out all the underwhelming issues about it. That’s refreshing. 👍🏻
FWIW, my wife bought me this kit for Xmas. So far, I like it, but coming from an acoustic kit I’ll say there are some noticeable limitations with the Alesis. For me, the most notable one is the hi hat pedal is not as sensitive and nuanced as I’d like, ALL the cymbal pads SHOULD BE chokable in my opinion, and there should be a dedicated ride cymbal pad with a bell zone.
the background looks fucking fenomenal. what an upgrade
I used to have a ddrum dd5 e kit years ago and it had the same problem with the bar for the snare coming loose. What I did was I got a piece of paper and folded it down small to where it was thicker but it was able to slide in the with the bar so when you tightened it it stayed in place.
the sounds are getting better! I actually like the rimless toms-the look is quite unique
Did you buy the max?
@@EddieSuri not yet. I’m waiting for a work bonus before I buy another kit
@@FranksDrumCave nice! Im debating on the Yamaha or Alesis nitro max. Got a simmons now but trying to upgrade
@@EddieSuri I’ve been using acoustic with an EAD10 and occasionally triggers, but neighbors want me to get an ekit again lol
Thank you for your in-depth review.
Hint:
The Max module is dual zone. The pads aren't. I thought as much when I noticed that the cables had stereo jacks - I plugged one of my Roland dual zone pads into the 1st tom and it's two different sounds - the rim and the center!
Alesis very sneaky - they're probably going to re release this kit in 2024 as the Max 2 with dual zone pads. 🤣So this module can be used with almost any dual zone pads. I haven't tested all the cymbals yet, I tested one crash and it was single zone, and so was the ride . (I have 3 crashes and a ride) So this is very interesting. 😊👍🏻
Justin, another outstanding review, as usual. Hey, how about doing a review on the Simmons Titan 70?
You should do a review about the new jobeky triggers, specifically the multi point, and 3 cone 4 spoke triggers. I’ve seen absolutely nothing about them online, and I would interested to see how to they hold up compared to other aftermarket triggers
I do like the new sound from the module, but I do think that the old module sounds are more timeless since I personally have played a lot of drum sets that are Medeli rebranded kits that have similar sounds as the serge, nitro, and others. This does retain some sounds from the older version.
Your tips are great! For a new drummer this really helped me.
I got this kit two weeks ago and love it. When I told the dude which kit I wanted he was ticked he had to pull it out of the back and tried to sell me a Mesh instead. Gotta move that old product! I've seen comments about the snare arm on other reviews as well. Fortunately it didn't happen for me.
As a totally new drummer, hooking it into BFD and getting that all setup has been my main headache. Downloading the included Dark Mahogany set was not the best for someone used to downloads being on the app itself. Even though BFD has the Max on its list, my set doesn't seem to want to trigger the sounds most of the time. I could have a faulty USB in the back of the module.
Your USB cable could be the problem. Also your pad sensitivity settings could be the problem.
My snare arm is holding its place well, but I can pinch water from a stone. So tightening the clamp down is not a problem for me. Some guys just have weak hands and their booger pickers can’t tighten the clamp enough. This kit has its shortcomings because EVERYTHING does, but it’s a good kit. It’s certainly plenty to learn on and (depending on the type of band you play with) you can gig with it.
@@totallyfrozen Yeah it was a crap cable. Like I said about being a new drummer, everything was just new to me. All good now. Replaced the USB cable, figured out the unintuitive software and I'm happily taking lessons a few months in.
What part of, "I got this kit a few weeks ago and love it" is eluding you? I adore the kit but have justified criticisms.
Pretty rude comments from you. Have a better one, homie.
Me too - snare arm no problem at all.
I am a guitar player but I really liked drums. Your video convinced me to seriously consider picking up this electronic drum kit!
I’m the same, I play guitar in a band but I’m really interested in learning the drums
With the kick tower, you can easily replace it with like a $60 Yamaha pedal. It works perfectly fine or something a little bigger. It will let you do a double bass pedal.
Great review. Thankyou. I'm considering buying these for my daughter who is just starting to learn drums. Which would you recommend between a new nitro max and a used crimson II se?
I had things coming loose on their Alesis strike flagship. I sent them back because I couldn’t play them with everything coming loose all the time, especially the floor toms on the lower part of the rack.
That display was used in a myriad of other modules and I suspect the software is also the same, just customized with sounds.
Behringer is working on a remake of the Pearl Syncussion SY-1 drum synth for Eurorack.
( eurorack is what is awesome about just getting an eDRUMin, i mean if you're into Analog Percussion Synthesis ....but you can still MIDI in, from your module, for an "Analog Hybrid" )
so many good tunes were recorded at the dawn of electronic drums, and that's what that sound is all about....analog tweak.
Hi! So i've been looking for begginner e drums for quite a while and all though i've heard mixed things about alesis' kick tower and double pedals I've found this the best, since I live in europe and dont have access to the simmons titan series. I have also heard you saying that these are not the kits for metalheads so I wanted to ask if there would be something better for begginer metalheads at this price range. Thanks a lot!
If you hit the ride with the shoulder of your stick, you can much more easily trigger the bell sound with almost no extra force.
I got this set for my 7 year old daughter and I feel like it was a good buy at the price point it was at the time. Locally, I was able to get it at a bit off MSRP. Great review and amazing tip on the kick threshold. I did notice the micro hits and I told her to ignore it, but now it's fixed, thanks for that. Documentation isn't wonderful and as a non-drummer dad I have 0 experience with these things. It was hard enough to become a youtube drum tech to set it up :D Great review!
Hi Justin , Thanks for the honest review ....I am a beginner drummer looking to buy the first professional kit for playing live and practise ...Can you please share your opinion on carlsbro csd 500
For a beginner who doesn't want to upgrade his drums soon, which one would be better, Alesis Command or Alesis Nitro Max?
I bought the expansion pack of nitro mesh and amazon warehouse which is cheaper! Worked well and replaced one tom to use the dual zone as splash.
At last a more critical review for this set. Many of the others I came across seem to be payed off. I mean for me it's all too late after all as I already have this set but fortunately I'm quite happy with it. I also have a few remarks regarding the set and the review:
1. You didn't mention that for a beginner (that's me) 90 days of drumeo worth what - 90$ or so? - is a nice add-on. So are the other ones. And BFD has an additional set you normally have to pay for. The bonus content is a really nice touch for me
2. I haven't had any problems with the snare arm, however the whole rack seems a bit unstable. I managed to tighten the screws and it holds together, could be a bit more sturdy though.
3. The rack is too small for me. I'm 187 cm tall (6f1in) and I was having trouble placing all the elements so that they didn't interfere with each other and were easily accessible for me. Also the rack could be higher, the snare is pretty low. Then again it's a feature of most E-kits, I guess.
4. There are many sets to choose from on the module and many sounds for each set but for me it wasn't really easy to put together a set that would sound right. I mean until I got into advanced settings but still... But that's probably me.
5. The hi-hat pedal is definitely not responsive enough, sometimes I just can't feel it right. Also the bass drum kick is double kicking on me - I guess my technique is still lousy and I have to try your solution for it too.
6. Last but not least - I really couldn't find anything priced 400$ that could beat that set. At least not where I live which is central Europe. All the cheaper sets didn't have the kick tower and the module was considerably weaker. I'm well aware of the aggressive marketing Alesis introduced for this model but as a beginner I'm really happy with it and I believe it has a very good value for the price.
Yeah I’m having the same issue where I live in the uk and there’s not many other options especially for the price
As of today 11/10/23 Simmons titan 50 and Alesis nitromax 8pcs drum set kit both on sale for $399. On Guitar center I went today. Simmons Titan 50 on sale till 11/15/23 don't know about Alesis. Incase :) Thanks for the great review:)
I'm pretty excited, Justin! And thankful you make these videos. After years and years and years of posting comments on your page, I am getting ready to buy an e-kit from Sweetwater. It's going to be the Yamaha DTX6-whatever whatever whatever (I can't remember all the numbers and/or letters that go after this particular e-kit) Hot damn, hot damn, hot diggity dang, I'm buying an e-kit! And I don't have to settle for some crap-ass Alesis/Donner/Simmons junk kit. ❤😂😊
Congrats on the new kit! Saving up the money for the good stuff is always worth it in the long run :)
Good choice! I'm also thinking of getting one of those.
I’m looking at getting a Roland td17kv2
Hey i was wondering if you know of any better options for a hihat replacment for this kit i have the goedrum controler but i was wondering if there any options that have the bottom cymbal that work for this kit please and thank you. Love your videos!!
I actually like the lack of rim on the toms as I have the old Nitro kit and found that with 8" pads and that super high rim that I was whacking them constantly and ruining my sticks or just making noise etc. It kinda made the experience less than I felt it could have been. It also made playing harder because I had to really be precise where I was hitting the pad. I think these new pads would be more enjoyable for beginner e-drum players. I don't use mine anymore, but keep them in case I end up wanting or needing a pad for another sound, or I have a trigger break I can use as temporary back up.
Me too, I almost took an angle grinder to them to cut them lower! 😂
Those rims really sucked, I didn't know what Alesis were thinking when they did that. 😱😱
Welcome to the world of real drums where there's rims.
@@DrummerBoyJustin Edrum rims or no rims immaterial to me, but acoustic tin cans? Never again.
Hi and thank you for the channel, very informative. I am a drummer and I have a drummer friend who hates electronic drums because, "the cymbals always suck." How would I respond to this? I'm looking at buying an EFNote 051 kit.
Dm10 owner here. Was 600 when I got it. It has all the defects the dm10 is known for but the worst is the drum rack because it wiggles. Has Alesis actually fixed the triggering and crosstalk issues the DM10 has?
Will you be doing a review on the simmons titan 70?
I have the same issue with the snare arm on the nitro mesh kit.
Hi does it come with the cables as well to set up the drums module? Or do we have to buy those separately ?
Does the bluetooth still filter in your music and play along with the drums in your headphones if you're using midi out to a drum software program?
With a budget of $500 can you recommend an electronic set for a beginner/intermediate player? Thanks
Would you recommend this over the Alesis Surge SE?
info whats the mic your using please? and recommend sound amp?
Has there been any talk about strike pro se or and any updates for the module ?
How many sounds does an open hi-hat? not quiet-loud, but half-open and more open?
You didn’t mention anything about the Hi-hat. Could you give us your opinion on the hi-hat for this kit? Thanks.
So between the Alesis Max and the Simmons 50 which one would you choose ???
Anyone tried putting a different bass drum on it so that you can play double bass? Like a Yamaha KP65 which I know works on the Nitro Mesh. I wonder if the same will apply here.
So these are worn with headphones?? Any tips if the doorbell rings ?
I have been renting an Alesis Nitro for a while - I like to have fun with it and my 7-year old son is learning - and we want to get our own kit, and this one seems to be a great deal. Question: on the Nitro, I notice that if I want to hit the rim and the snare at the same time, it won't play both rim and snare sounds. I assume the module can't handle both sounds at the same time. Any idea if this newer module is any different?
Hi, would you say the titan 50 is worth buying even if its ~50 cad more expensive than the alesis
Trust me when I tell you, the old school DM six that I have feels a lot more cramped. The sounds on this particular kit are a lot better than the ones that I have on the DM6, but they’re still not great.
Do you think I could take the nitro max parts and fix them to a turbo mesh frame (for space reasons)
about the tray, I agree 100% i upgraded from td17 to a td27 and not having that stupid place on the module to put my phone on was so annoying.
Can you tell the difference between the td17 to td27?
Geez this kit sounds 10 x better than the other nitro modules.
The nitro max expanded is on sale for 450 right now. I really want the extra tom and ride. Is there a better option for under like 700?
Which has the better module? Nitro Max or Surge?
I heard that you have to use TRS headphones to get louder sound. TRUE?
this thing is too good to be true. regardless, they can take my money, I'll be ordering one very soon.
What snare stand did you use? My snare pole keeps slipping
Which electric drum set would be good enough with double pedals?
This kit in my country is the same price as the YAMAHA DTX452K. That being said, is it still worth for the mesh pads?
The reason the Alesis Nitro style racks wobble, is firstly the weight of the kit, they weigh half as much as my Roland TD11KV. (but even that wobbles, but not as much)
The second reason is because the T pieces on the kit that are on the vertical legs have positioning pieces that slide into the grooves on the crossbars - these are not a TIGHT FIT, hence the wobble that's virtually inescapable from. (there's too much play)
IF you set it up pedantically, like I do - with a spirit level to see that the crossbars are 100% level, it should be a lot better.
Also, be aware that the rubber boots on the vertical legs are not always pushed on properly, check that before assembling the kit and apply firm pressure to make sure they're in properly. (pushing down while it's on the ground works)
After about a week or so, re - tighten everything, it takes a while before it settles down.
The reason Alesis put the grooves in the cross peices, is to prevent the pads and the bars from sagging or moving - its a great idea, but the fit should have been more snug.
I watched every single vdo on UA-cam about the Max, for about 2 weeks before I bought mine on Wednesday, and it's a great kit. You have to work on the sounds though, like most modules there are literally hundreds of sounds on them that you will never use.
I also have a TD11KV, and I knew not to expect a mid speck Roland kit for $400 - that's not gonna happen!
I have already built about 4 custom (user) kits and let me tell you this kit is giving my Roland a run for it's money.
I'm super impressed, but if you don't know what sounds good and how to manipulate the sounds to create your own - you're pretty stuck, (like almost all kits) but for a lot of people the stock kits would be fine.
I have already added a second crash from some old nitro spares I have using the spare trigger inputs, and will probably add a third too. 😊👍🏻
I am determined to buy one these. Because of the enourmous tax and the economic crisis in my country this kit is worth 2 months of national minimum wage salary, so I want to do my research properly before I invest. I live in an apartmant building so the kit being quiet is very important to me. Do you think that this kit is quiter than most or got any tips so I can reduce the noise a bit ? Thank you.
I got an offer of a brand new Roland td-25 for 270$. Which one has better sound quality, the Alesis nitro max or Roland td-25?
Can you bluetooth this kit to a sound system if you don't have a drum amp?
Alesis or Roland $400 kit? I don't know shit about drumming but would like to play around and see where it goes.
which one is better? mesh or max?
How about a comparison to the Roland TD-02K for the same price?
Roland rules
I actually like the no-rim toms. For a tiny, 8" tom with a rim, you almost always end up hitting the rim on accident.
Ya, I like how they don't have the rim I hate when I hit the rim on the toms
I can’t believe you can buy all that for $400 that’s amazingly good value how ever you look at it . Would I buy one ? if I was skint yes I certainly would ! Also if your little darlings decide they wanna be ringo for the next couple of hours before there bored and moved onto the next thing they can weasel out of you then I wouldn’t feel to heart broken if I’d bought them this it’s certainly a very good starting point . 👍
It’s not a terrible kit. I actually REALLY like the pads surprisingly. Sadly the one zone cymbals are a bust. But the rack made me wanna toss it out the window…..smh….unfortunately I’m bringing it back today. If the rack was actually sturdy I would keep it for a play around or travel kit. Decent sounds for the price. Perfect for the kids though. Great price also. 🤷🏽♂️ I was jamming 🤷🏽♂️ and even though the pads were single zone I plugged them in to the TD 17 just to see what would happen….it wasn’t 100% (didn’t mess with settings but that may have made a difference) buuuut it worked
Another review said the same thing about the rack.
The 4 legged rack is just lazy in design and bad looking. The tri-leg sturdy style kits (Carlsbro/Roland) are nicer looking and would’ve worked perfectly here.
@@jOHNNYDEM Is the rack just not useable? or only bad if your really beating the hell out of them? Assuming its sturdy enough for a beginner ?
@@codisfer use a different rack. That’s what we did.
This is a hit and miss. They changed the rims because they were huge and people were hitting them…good. But they knew people were having trouble with the double bass pickup and didn’t do anything to change it.
Great video man! I bought this kit but ended up returning it and stepping up to the Simmons Titan 70 (night and day in my opinion.)
The short and flimsy rack on the Nitro Max just ended up being a deal breaker for me. Plus, I’m not really a drummer so this could have been a skill issue, but I got CRAZY double triggering on the kick drum.
The Titan is better in my opinion as well
Yeah, With kits like this, You have to cut corners somewhere. I used to have an original alesis nitro before i got rid of it and got an acoustic kit. I had that same issue. Another thing i found annoying was that, If you wanted to like. Change something out on the rack, You had the take the entire bar. out. slide it on there. and put the rack back together, Its a pain. It looks like the same rack. (Also had issues with cymbals dying as well, And the rubber starting to come off, I just got an acoustic kit cause I got tired of dealing with issues.
Can't get simons in the uk
For the choke they put dots on the rubber over where the censor is
yup, but that is a very small area and easy to miss when you're in a rush
this kit or roland 07kv ?
I'm a beginner (3 months using a practice pad) and plan on buying an E Kit, but when I go to the music store to test it out, it just seems too short. What do you recommend to increase height? I'm 6'3 BTW.
Good question. I’m only 5’9” but coming from an acoustic kit, this felt like a little kid’s kit. What I found is that if you get a decent stool and you sit back from the kit a little way (just far enough that you can still reach the cymbals) it seems to work fine. You could always mount the rack on
4”x4” blocks, I suppose
Hey Justin please review the new DWE drum set
working on it ;)
Can I use dual pedal on it??
The Bluetooth bug with the volume is there in my Nitro max too. Guess it's a common issue.
What's your issue??
5:04 didn't happen to me, I think it's just yours, or I just got lucky
It’s the snare bar connecter it’s made of plastic and when I got my old nitro mesh kit the arm would do this.Once I got a new one from Alesis no problem with it.
I hit my cymbal hard but it doesn’t give the bell sound
Lemon drums review?
maybe some day? not any time soon though, they've never reached out
Hey Justin you never did a review on the mimic updates and kits
Pearl never sent me a Mimic 🤷♂️
@65Drums but you did a review and tutorial I think pearl should give you one
Seems like they took steps forward but also back. One of these days they'll get it right.
Alesis is confusing
This kit needs a sturdy, metal rack.
Is there a way to turn the volume up on certain drums like the snare? thanks
It is almost always about the headphones, don’t plug it all the way
Others have said this but I own those old style Alesis 8" toms and the rim height feels so exaggerated. I feel it's super easy to strike the rim on accident with them. I don't feel they really add anything and actually prefer the look of them without rims. I'm perfectly fine with an edrum looking like an edrum and not an acoustic kit though, lol.
Why is that hi hat so high? right on up there with the cymbals
can the kick drum tower accommodate a double kick pedal?
yes he says in the vid
Can you add a hi hat stand with top/bottom pieces?
For rim shots you have to only hit the rim I believe
this guy looks like eminem
How tight am I supposed to tighten all the heads. I feel the snare isn’t as loud as it should be…
I don't see anything about a contest in the description
It's the link to Edrumcenter, who put on the contest. Contest rules are explained on their website, which I linked there. But I think the contest is over now, or just about to be.
Is dream Theater's grammy nominated song on it?
Edrums in 2023 just shouldnt sound this bad. 😂
It's $400 with the option for midi where you could practically get any sound you want via VSTs, how good do you expect the stock sounds to be at that price range?
@@memonomoto7419I'm fussy and have had a lot of edrum kits over the years, and these sounds are very good.
IMO the non-recessed tom mesh head flush to the rim is a great improvement. That said?
A 20 year old Roland TD-6V module sounds way better. Seriously.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯