NEVER A MEMORY | Final Fantasy VII History / FFVII Retrospective / FF7 Analysis (SPOILERS)
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In this 30-minute FF7 history lesson, let's take a good hard look at what this legendary game had to offer, and why it is still remembered as one of the most influential masterpieces of the generation. First in a two-part in-depth FFVII retrospective, where we delve into the beginnings of Final Fantasy on the NES, all the way through Final Fantasy 7 on the Playstation, the best-selling and most treasured game in the franchise. Learn about the spin-off games such as Dirge of Cerberus for the PS2, and Crisis Core (PSP), as well as the game's inspiration to the gaming industry.
We will explore the 2005 movie sequel Advent Children, the game's now 20-year old graphic style and mechanics, and what this means to the upcoming FF7 Remake.
Story and battle mechanics research excerpted from Patrick Holleman's 'Reverse Design: Final Fantasy 7':
thegamedesignforum.com/feature...
0:00 - Intro
2:09 - The Golden Age of RPGs
4:18 - Reinventing a Classic
7:10 - Tone and Imagery
8:46 - Story Themes
12:41 - Shades of Gray
14:28 - Scoring a Masterpiece
18:39 - Expanding the Universe
21:02 - Evolution of a Series
22:16 - Classes, Combat and Materia
24:47 - Summoning and Limit Breaks
28:39 - In Closing
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MUSIC CREDITS
Music from the Materia Collective (www.materiacollective.com/mus...)
Fight On!: Jacob Pernell, Jordan Chin
Mark of the Beats: bLind
Let the Battles Begin!: Melancholy Robot
Continue: Leslie-Anne Snipes
Cid's Theme: Ferdk
Aerith's Theme: Kyle Landry
One-Winged Angel: String Player Gamer, Diwa de Leon, LadyGameLyric, May Claire La Plante, Michelle Heafy, Tera Catallo
You Can Hear the Cries of the Gymnopedies: Nathan Madsen, David Neale, Doug Perry, Joanne Moo, Lauren Liebowitz
Mako Reactor: Jon Bash, Elie Hartman
Dear to the Heart: Rozen
The Prelude: Laura Intravia
Music from Overclocked Remix (ocremix.org/)
Final Fantasy VII 'Every Story Begins With a Name' OC ReMix by Big Giant Circles & zircon
ocremix.org/remix/OCR01841
Final Fantasy VII 'Chocarena' OC ReMix by Draggor
ocremix.org/remix/OCR00775
Osirois Music - Anxious Heart
• FFVII - Anxious Heart ...
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WHERE TO BUY GAME
PC Version on Steam:
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PS4 Updated Version on PSN (PS4):
store.playstation.com/#!/en-u...
Original PS1 Game on PSN (PSP/PS Vita/PS3):
store.playstation.com/#!/en-u...
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FOOTAGE CREDITS
Final Fantasy 1 gameplay by _NilsHaxard | • Final Fantasy 1 (Ninte...
Crisis Core gameplay by ClaytonGamer | • Final Fantasy Vii: Cri...
Dirge of Cerberus gameplay by PCSX2 | • Dirge of Cerberus: Fin...
Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy IV and Final Fantasy VI gameplay by Jeff Torres | / @jenntorresd
Banjo Kazooie gameplay by Mistha Tru | • Banjo-Kazooie Gameplay 2
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Thanks for watching, everyone! Be sure to check out Downward Thrust's sister video (ua-cam.com/video/SwL9I50ErJk/v-deo.html), where we both discuss and analyze how Final Fantasy VII holds up today, the future of the franchise, and speculation, concerns and optimism toward the anticipated remake!
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Final Fantasy 7 was the first Final Fantasy game i ever played and i fell in love with the franchise i now own 1, 2, 4 through 10X2, 12, all three 13's, Type-0 and 15 lol so pretty much all but 3, 11, and 14
Oh and i have Crisis Core
I remember buying this game and thinking... this is what some friends wanted me to play... this?! I had never played a serious RPG and it would only a week or so until I would be hooked.
I stand blown back when I think of how nostalgic this masterpeice is (intentionally misprint... FFVII inside joke).
I'd even go as far to say that; "no game has ever captured my attention, made me ask questions or even felt so massive (both story and side progression) since".
I would just like to state how incredibly awesome this two-part video series was. You both did an amazing job and it was not only reminiscent, but also did capture the essence of what I feel - is FFVII. Excuse me while I wipe my tears... seriously though, I can't thank you both enough for the work involved here.
My hope is that it's possibly the remake will be enjoyed by long time fans (it may never be the original, but '97/'98 were unique times) as well as bring in a new crowd. For at least they'd be able to experience some of what I was so fortunate to.
FF7 is an amazing game. I love it from start to finish. It will always be one of my favorite games. I got to watch my wife do a blind playthrough of the game (almost 20 years later) and now it's one of her favorite games as well. It's now something that I want to share with friends and family.
I played FFVII 20 years ago when I was 17.
And still 20 years later.
I am in UA-cam looking for videos about it.
It impacted me so much as a gamer.
I hope my video brought some more insight into the game, or rekindled some memories. Thanks for watching!
Cool Grandpa!
Me too I was 11 at the time but ive forgotten how many times ive replayed it
@@jmarra07 if he was 17 in 1997 hes in his 39, he ain't old enough to be your gramps.
I played FF VII 20 years ago when I was 17 and 20 years later I am on youtube looking for videos about it.
It impacted me so much as a gamer.
Its incredible how music takes me so emotionally back to the days i was an innocent boy....
+leon voulgaris I listen to classic VG music all the time. Some of it is incredibly touching. Was listening to Time's Scar from Chrono Cross last night and I actually choked up.
Kids don't realize how important this game was back in the day, for many of us it was one of the first games we got with the PlayStation one, playstation one and final fantasy seven are inseparable memories. The 3d graphics, the cinematic cutscenes, the story line, the colours, the summons and limit breaks, the chocobos the airship the open world map, the bosses the music, sephiroph, aeriths death, jesses death, dynes death, the funny moments, golden saucer, the weapons, the materia, the cyberpunk city of midgar. The relationships between the characters, the swearing, the dark moments which were pretty dark for a kid. The Turks and their theme tune. Cosmo Canyon, Vincent and his mansion. Final fantasy 7 was epic, long and beautiful, what a memory. Would love to see a live action movie version like they did with Ghost In The Shell because I like futuristic cyberpunk Dystopia movies
The music in this game was some of the best in the series for me. The main theme when walking the world map was so beautiful.. Switching between dark and hopeful themes so beautifully..
I agree. Easily one of the best in gaming.
I named my son Cecil. Such a dope name.
I would name my daughter aerith not gonna lie
In Hungary Cecil is a girl name.
@@MultiRacz incidentally it's the same here in Indonesia, though normally it's a short form of Cecilia.
Oh behalf of this video series I just want to say it was a pleasure working with Indigo Gaming. Being a fan of someone's channel and then getting a chance to collab with them is quite a humbling experience. Although it was hard at times, I think we both learned a lot about what it takes to deliver a cohesive product that spans more than one UA-cam Channel. But most importantly...we also learned a lot about Final Fantasy 7. Thanks to all who watch these two videos!
Downward Thrust Was an honor working with you!
Reposted from the pinned comment by Indigo Gaming; and a thank you to you both!
I remember buying this game and thinking... this is what some friends wanted me to play... this?! I had never played a serious RPG and it would only a week or so until I would be hooked.
I stand blown back when I think of how nostalgic this masterpeice is (intentionally misprint... FFVII inside joke).
I'd even go as far to say that; "no game has ever captured my attention, made me ask questions or even felt so massive (both story and side progression) since".
I would just like to state how incredibly awesome this two-part video series was. You both did an amazing job and it was not only reminiscent, but also did capture the essence of what I feel - is FFVII. Excuse me while I wipe my tears... seriously though, I can't thank you both enough for the work involved here.
My hope is that it's possibly the remake will be enjoyed by long time fans (it may never be the original, but '97/'98 were unique times) as well as bring in a new crowd. For at least they'd be able to experience some of what I was so fortunate to.
I, for one, do really thank you. Great work and a true pleasure to watch. The AncientGamer salutes you both.
Such great memories of this game. Remember my parents bought it for me for getting good grades on my report card. Knew nothing about it or jrpgs, just thought the guy with the giant sword looked cool. One of the best decisions of my life.
Was such an amazing experience back in the day. Hard to recommend to someone today who didn't live through it, but at the time there was really nothing else like Final Fantasy VII.
I love reading comments like this with peoples first experience with the game back then.
@@Indigo_Gaming I disagree. There are a ton of online games like Roblox that are similar in various ways. I plan to get my daughter to play FFVII PS1 version whenever she gets into her teen years. I still have my Memory card PS2 and the discs. I hope they are all still functional. I would possibly cry if I ever lost my FFVII data on my memory card....and I never cry
A shout out to the Materia Collective for granting permission to use most of the excellent music featured in these videos. Check them out here: www.materiacollective.com/music/materia_final_fantasy_vii_remixed
Great video!
Suzi!
The queen
As a big fan of FF7 I really appreciate the time you both spent making these two videos. Great work and I hope there will be more just like it
There are very few games that have music like FF7. For me, it's probably the most powerful part of the game, and I think only the Mass Effect series comes close.
It is something really special. Between FF7, Chrono Trigger and FF6, those might be contenders for the best soundtrack of all time for me.
Lunar has my favorite game soundtrack, But yeah FF7 is legendary to me
Ryuseii Zonvolt+ Lunar SSSC had a meh soundtrack, but Eternal Blue had an amazing soundtrack, I love the instrumental opening theme.
It is truly a masterpiece!!! 👌
I agree T_T...the music still makes me cry
I’ve never beaten Final Fantasy 7. Today I begin my final quest to beat the game. After I do I will continue on to 8,9,10,12,13 Trilogy and 15. This is my quest and I shall not give up until I complete it.
Interestingly FF7 is the only Final Fantasy I have beaten so far. That ending cutscene really proved to me how much future interpretations of Cloud miss the mark, although I won’t spoil anything if you haven’t beaten it yet still.
I have so many memories playing ff7 back when I was in the 4th grade. My Korean buddy first showed it to me at his house and I was amazed just watching him play. I took me a few months for my rents to buy me a copy but I played it for hundreds of hours. I still have the original copy and book that came with it. The story and soundtrack will stay with me forever. I don't have time for games now and unfortunately won't play the new one much but I'll certainly buy a copy or any bundle systems that Sony releases just because.
This makes me want to play the game again, that means you guys did a really great job!
The way you have explained this has actually brought a tear to my eye.. Such hardships in cruel world..
28:34 Eating Cotton Candy and having hot dates with Tifa, what would Sephiroth say if he saw Cloud then?
Sephiroth - I'm jealous....
"I'm jellin' like Magellan, Cloud!"
:P
How this is not half a million + sub channel is beyond me. Beautifully done good sir. You got a new sub.
Thanks! I appreciate the praise, it means a lot.
Final fantasy VII will always be my favorite rpg and greatest ff game!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
the music, oh man i remember that final fight 1 on 1 i just sat there knowing i was completely done 100% everything to be had, 100+ hour of my life spent all accumulating to that moment, not regretting a thing i just sat there thinking before delivering the final blow. that THIS is why we play games the emotions they bring up. i was hooked i wanted to relive it, playing the game over and over, relishing every moment. i still get goose bumps thinking about that one moment to this day. it is the single gaming experience i would never give up.
I remember when I was a kid, my older brother got a ps1 the newer model at the time when the joysticks came in the contiller. Him and his friend were down in the basement playing ff7,and just by looking at the cover art I was blown away. And at the time Cloud reminded me of Gohon during the cell saga in DBZ, which made me enjoy it 10000x more!
What an awesome video! Highlighted exactly why I say FF7 to me is the greatest rpg and possible greatest game in general ever made. Can’t get enough of it
Damn these videos were good to watch. Mixing the quality from both DT and IG couldnt deliver less than this level of work. Amazing work guys, thanks a lot.
Thanks very much, Felipe! It was quite a project, but I'm glad it's being well received.
This was a fantastic video with just an incredible amount of information. I can only imagine how long it would have taken you guys to write and develop the script and while I knew a lot about what you said, the opinions and having it all laid out coherently was great
+Lytane Variety Show Thank you! While DT and I were working on other projects in-between, we worked on this scripts for well over a month. I think we hit the major beats but it's amazing what you miss even with about 45 minutes of straight scripted content.
great video. One of my favourite games of all time as well. Great production values. I always liked you and Downward's videos on death of a game and retrospectives
Thanks! One of mine as well. I think you might be thinking of 'Death of a Game' by NerdSlayer, or perhaps the 'Did It Fail' series by Downward Thrust.
LOL you actually made me questioned my sanity for a minute. But you're right I got the name wrong on Downward Thrust's and your videos and yes I also watch those series by Nerdslayer. I knew you had a kind of "death of a game" type video so I wasn't wrong. You just call them "Forgotten". Great videos overall! keep up the great work.
Bro ive watched this video like 20 times you did such an amazing job...ive shown a ton of people you cut it up so good you should make an extended version!!
Thanks Justin! I'm glad you liked it enough to show your friends. Oh man, an extended version? Maybe sometime down the road, but this half hour video took me about a month to put together as it was!
Thanks for watching, and I hope you enjoy my future videos!
Ha yeah you just did it awesome with the music and narration def struck a chord ill keep y fingers crossed for one day...ive watched a bunch of ff7 vids this is def the best one
This is so well done. I can tell you have the real love for FFVII we all have. I’ve been making videos of the Play Arts figures and other FF things. It’s led me to binge videos and I’m glad I found yours’. :)
How have I not seen this video yet?! I’ve been a fan for a while and it never showed up organically. I loved this game but 3/6 remains my favorite as it was my first FF.
this video needs more views
great work guys.
Great part 2 of the review. I Will love to look at your back catalog Indigo. I love all FF soundtracks as even the two FF I did not personally like (8) and (13) had great music inside of it.
+Michael Coffey Thanks Michael, glad you enjoyed! Final Fantasy definitely has set a fantastically high standard for music in games. Final Fantasy 6 and 7 being my favorite in the series by far.
Amazing video! So much nostalgia. I wish Square Enix would finish the freaking remake already. I feel like it's been like 4 years already since they confirmed they were going to remake it.
I agree. I also say it all the time, people just don't mention this enough - when this game came out we had just finished 16 bit master pieces such as Chrono Trigger, FF6, and Secret of Mana. We jumped into CD based music epic, pre-rendered graphics, unprecedented cut scenes and summon sequences, while maintaining complex story and characters. The jump was so large that nothing can compare prior to or since it's release from an user experience level! Not 8-bit to16-bit and not 32-bit to our current generation systems today. People today claiming FF7 as overrated or rank lower than it should be simply can't grasp this point. It is in many ways the Michael Jordan of video games.
"Hey man the pizza is here and it's gonna get cold, put down the controller"
**Casts Bahamut Zero-> Quadra Magic**
Pizza has not only gone cold but it's rotted away.
The story is so engaging, the characters so endearing, and the world of Final Fantasy VII is like nothing seen before or since. Yet despite all those qualities, there’s something truly indescribable that makes it standout from all the others in the franchise and the medium as a whole - and it’s more than simple nostalgia. This game had such a profound impact on so many people, partly because it’s so good, and partly because it arrived at a time when video games were evolving into something more than just ‘games’. For a lot of those people, FFVII is the game that defines that era, especially those of us growing up back then.
Great breakdown man i subscribed I like how you go into the symbology and dark themes this game goes resonateles deeply
+Justin Pedini Thanks Justin! Downward Thrust and I worked on the script on and off for about a month. Glad people are now enjoying it. When digging back into the game again, I was actually surprised at how dark it got at times. Brainwashing, psychological damage, enforced pregnancy, regret, etc.
Yes theres also a few others i know of the enginerring of humanity as well as according to ancient civilzations on this planet egyptian sumerian if you get where im going lol im into research like that so glad to see someone pointing out these themes etc and another reason i love metal gear.....i shared it on facebook man keep it up
I am glad you two did this collaboration. Final Fantasy VII was and is one of my favorite games. While I did not buy it when it came out but I did buy it and a PlayStation because I was already a fan of the Final Fantasy series. I am looking forward to the official release of the Remake. I know what they are planning and why it will be episodic and I am good with that. I know that they are trying to keep the storyline itself intact while adding small things to it but that is why I know it will be good. Again thank you both for doing this.
You're welcome. Thanks for watching! It was a hell of a project, but I think it turned out well despite the last several hours of editing running until 5am in the morning. :D
It's a great game and though it's aged quite a bit in 20 years, it still has some chilling and amazing moments even today.
THANK YOU for that bit on Sephiroth. It's been very annoying explaining to today's gamers that the original FF7 game painted a gray-shaded villain that wasn't about world domination, but a product of his emotions and his past. A lot of gamers assume Crisis Core was the only game that made Sephiroth complex. However, FF7 had achieved this in the most subtle, genius way. From the irony of Sephiroth's snide remarks toward Hojo (calling him a 'mass of complexes') to Sephiroth allowing Cloud to visit family to hints of his relationship with Gast, FF7 required gamers to PAY ATTENTION and piece together Sephiroth's past and persona. It's a great injustice whenever I come across a new FF7 gamer, claiming Sephiroth in FF7 was black and white while Sephiroth in Crisis Core was complex. Far from the truth.
I'm glad you appreciated that bit. I thought I might have been seeing things that weren't there, but despite the series of "Sephiroth-lites" we got in JRPGs following Final Fantasy VII, I still think he was a very layered and interesting villain. One extra bit of depth in the story of VII was the fact that Cloud had illusions he was telling himself about what actually happened, so you really have to read into the game's plot to figure out what was really going on.
I came to the realization today as I watched a FFVII UA-cam review on it's nostalgia affect....I think FFVII had a sizable hand in shaping my world view.
this is a very well-made video editing wise, and a well-thought-out overview! thanks for sharing
I really liked this video: so many good memories =)
Great video as always.
Thank you, Mr. Duul!
I love FF7's music and I think it's the purest example of its brilliance. While it's visuals, writing, graphics, and storytelling are all locked to or limited by its time and place on the PlayStation, the music is a beautiful window into the vision of the project and why it is so loved. If I were to give a kid today a PlayStation controller and memory card and told them to play FF7, i am certain they will not have the same experience with it that I did when it was first released in 1997. But the music has stood the test of time. It can be enjoyed by anyone and understood for its brilliance in any time and context. It is the true essence of the creators vision. It communicates what everyone in the Squaresoft studio wanted to communicate. It is in my opinion unrivaled in video games as the greatest soundtrack of all time.
I have to admit, i didn't hear what you were saying, when talking about the combat. I was just admiring the limit breaks and getting nostalgic over, how awesome they felt the first time.
Final fantasy seven was the first game I got when I finally bought a PlayStation in 1997. I had growing up playing Krono trigger, Final Fantasy for and final fantasy six, as well as Mystic Quest lol And discreet as those games are, final fantasy seven resonated with me from the first time I saw the promotional art of cloud standing in front of the Shinra tower. I was obsessed. I dug into the game and didn’t stop until I had uncovered every possible secret. The story riveted me, probably fertilized the SeeDs (wink wink) of my environmentalist opinions; The music stirred my heart and my imagination, the story took me around the world and into outer space even.
I remember once defeating Gi Nattak And then I forgot to save, or my save file got overwritten and I ended up having to start over from the beginning. I was so devastated because I thought I had gotten so far in the game LOL. This was the most epic-in a literal sense of the word-game that I had ever played to that point. Probably still, although subsequent Final Fantasy us have had pretty epic story lines.
I fucking love this game. I could fucking talk about it all goddamn day

I wish the developers watch your videos every time they get lost in remake's production, because you talk about very important aspects of FF7 we all enjoyed.
Thanks for the kind words. I mean the remake has a lot of the same people who created it working on it, but I think they have to make concessions for the new audience it's going to have to appeal to. Let's hope it retains the spirit of the original if nothing else.
first game I bought with my first part time pay packet. best decision ever and nothing has really hit me since, quite like this did. Nostalgia feels are strong for this, there is a lot of love.
I'm an old time gamer, I was 33 years old when I played FFVII. I just bought a Nintendo 64, had it for two weeks. But because they stuck with cartridges with the promise of adding a disc player later, I sold the 64 and bought a Playstation. Glad I did, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to play this masterpiece back then when it dropped. I still have an original PS1 copy, a PSP copy and now a Nintendo Switch copy. It may not be seen as the greatest RPG of all time to others, but it is to me. That first time you summon Knights of the Round, after sweating to breed a gold Chocobo to get the materia...awesome!
WAS MY FAVORITE GAME FOR MANY MANY YEARS!!!
4:36 "A very unlikely set of circumstances clouded over the gaming world"
I see what you did there
Loved this video. FF7 changed me of how I saw and felt about games. It is the best FF game ever and one of the best games ever made. And I've played since the 80's.
Awesome. Glad to have shared such an amazing experience with others, and to talk about how it moved us and influenced our lives years later.
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Hi Evelyn!
Loved the Golden Saucer. It gave us a break from time to time; a form of comic relief from the constant battles.
I passed many hours trying to breed the best chocobos and racing them at the saucer.
I also enjoyed the flirtatious nature of Cloud's relationship with Aeris, and his obvious love of Tifa. My favorite scenario was when Cloud had to dress up as a girl to rescue Tifa from the house of ill repute. I have the game saved to the start of that part; and get a great thrill out of replaying it with every possible combination of key items; just to see the differences.
I'm always looking to buy one more copy of the game; just in case (gasp) anything should damage my originals.
You forgot to mention some of the hardships that hironobu sakaguchi where he lost his mother during the development of 7
+megakidz13 I didn't get into the personal lives of the developers, but the loss of a family member could have influenced the surprisingly dark themes the game had. Interesting too is that Square was founded as a branch of an electric company, which may have helped inspire Shinra.
Bravo gentlemen , fucking awesome video .both of you , talk about capturing essence of that time in a video. Shit, Masterfully done
Thank you, appreciate that!
I remember just being stuck for days then some how id figure it out. Favorite part was maxing out gold and black chocobo s😁
I love Final Fantasy 7 it was the first Final Fantasy game. I remember staying up for days at a time trying to beat the game. And always stressed out when I had to fight Sephiroth and the One Winged Angel. But I have never had so much fun playing a video game with all the amazing things you were able to do.
It was truly an amazing time to be a gamer.
An thus my love of the rpg, the jrpg, and the play station consoles from them on would be born :).
Just a quick note about the beginning of the video: Final Fantasy didn't come from nowhere. It's hevily inspired by Enix's Dragon Quest, and both are tributary to Wizardry games. There were a lot of adventure games and dungeon crawlers for the early PC market which inspired console developers of the mid 80's.
DAMN IT you put Aerith Theme for a second and got me to tear up....that good is that damn theme XD, I love VII, not my favorite FF game (that will be forever FFVI) but easily my third favorite RPG ever made.
The cgi animations of Square are spot on for it's time, especially from advent children and up it aged well.
Yeah they went for a more stylized look in Advent Children, rather than the realistic look in Spirits Within. A good call, I'd say.
My first Final Fantasy game that I cut my teeth on was Final Fantasy 10. I have only now just started playing the older Final Fantasy games including 7. When I was a kid I went for the Sony created alternative Legend of the Dragoon. Which was my first introduction in to JRPG's. Its the only original Playstation game I have left. Although I've bought more since this revival really started to kick off these last few years. It will probably be a while before I am able to beat all the final Fantasy's leading up to 10 as I am also on a quest to play the original kings or the CRPG's as well (I'm about halfway through Baldurs Gate).
Great video. I'm curious if anyone knows what the quickest time is to complete this game. I've played all the way through five times. the first time I maxed out my timer and probably put in another hundred hours past that. I've also completed every aspect of the game in about 60 hours on another run through, and I've defeated sephiroth in about 18 hours on one or my save files. I'd like to run through this game the quickest anyone has ever done; I believe I can do it in about 13 hours after noticing I never turned up the battle and dialogue speeds that you can set upon starting the game. I'd like to know what the quickest time is as I plan to do this feat this year and I will video tape the entire thing.
I remember playing both FF6 and FF7 and loving them both..but I remember the schism that 7 created among players. I remember numerous arguments between gamers who loved one but hated the other, specifically because of the differences between the games. I finally realized the differences could be boiled down to the difference between reading a book (FF6) and watching a movie (FF7). I wonder how the reboot of FF7 will turn out, and how it will affect future games not only in the FF line, but to other games the world over.
love the vids, keep up the good work, i luv ff7
Thank you. Glad you enjoyed.
u guys are filling a void in game analysis, and that is really good. you guys are gonna surpass Mathematosis , just do what you do and never give up
One thing I am extremely interested in knowing in regards to this video is where, o where can I find that musical score you guys used for this video
It's all individually credited in the video description, but most of the tracks are from the fantastic Materia Collective album:
www.materiacollective.com/music/materia_final_fantasy_vii_remixed
Oh nice; great video, great content, very informative . I'm ready to buy the remake myself.
Thanks, glad you enjoyed! I'm looking forward to the remake as well.
Beautiful retrospective of a timeless masterpiece. Liked and subscribed. Btw what's the outro song of the video called?
+xeraliZe Thanks for watching and for the praise! 'Fight On' by Jordan Chin. Part of the Materia Collective's FF7 remix album.
www.materiacollective.com/music/materia_final_fantasy_vii_remixed
Np you're welcome! Your channel really deserves more views and subs imo. Btw I also watched your Diablo 2 vs Diablo 3 video and I totally agree with you on pretty much every point. I missed the dark/gritty and mysterious tone of the older games when I played Diablo 3. It felt way too cartoony and simplified in some ways, which is why a lot of core fans of the series were disappointed with it in the long run. Anyway, thanks for the fast response or Domo Arigato Mr Roboto! :D
Great video essay, you guys!
To add a little to the conversation: I played this game once more in 2018 and I was surprised at how well it still holds up. The controls feel a bit clunky and the 3D graphics are of course dated, but the story has lost nothing of its impact, the music is still absolutely phenomenal, and the gameplay is still good.
One thing that does feel a bit off, though this is a minor thing, is that the game is still a product of it's time, the decade after the Cold War and before 9/11. With the coming of the remake, it does feel weird that the protagonists of this game are eco-terrorists.
That's a common issue with remakes. Entertainment is often a product of its time, so creators instinctively try to make the story relevant to current events again, often missing the point of the original.
A true masterpiece. I've played this game dozens of times and have beat it at every go. I am still blown away by FFIIV. I'm about 2 days from buying it on my iPhone. What do you think people?
Aside from the music, I'll give credit to FF7 for also giving birth to psycho fandom that is even more outlandish today
I still remember seeing FFVII first time in some gaming magazine... It was before we had internet access in Poland (well, it wasn't cheap then and needed for kids ;) ), I watched photos and read articles from 2 or 3 magazine I had with this game in them for hours. After a while, I bought a pirated PC copy for like 20$ (games was hard to get that time, most stuff in Poland was pirated and it was normal for us) and had to wait another year before I could play it (was a jump for me from 486 to pentium III if I remember good).. but boy, it was worth it. I didn't go out to play with friends outside for days. It had never seen graphics, massive world, great battles and story.. I had a bug (with kernel file missing) at one point in gameplay, couldn't repair it, so I just started new game and played it again and again. Shame, we had no steam then so I would know how many thousand hours I played it till now (sometimes I go back even now, still one of the best games out there)
No to mention the time, when I was tired fo replaying tha game till the kernel bug spot.. I found movie folder on game CDs, was a mistake to watch, as I found the Aeris death cutscene. Cried a lot then, as I didn't knew how and why did she had to die. Never before or after I cried becouse of a video game :P
"Beautiful" is not an adjective I would prescribe to Banjo Kazooie, even when it was released.
FFVII was the first 3D game I ever saw that truly blew me away. Everything up to that point was preamble.
Jumping from the SNES and older DOS games to Final Fantasy VII was pretty amazing at the time, for sure!
Indigo Gaming Amen. Awesome time to have been playing games.
I just started it, about 20 hours in, I can see why it’s so loved, story,atmosphere is super, gameplay is dated cuz it’s old but there’s so much charm and love put into the game from the characters to the settings and the npcs in it. Of course the music is iconic
The gold saucer is the worst I hate it
This was an enjoyable video to watch. I personally, dislike FF7 after playing it for a few hours, i couldn't stand the game despite loving many other RPG's, but this video was well crafted and made its points quite well. It was great and I can't wait to see the second part. :) Keep up the lovely work on these videos.
Will I try 7 again at some point from this video? Possibly.
Crisis Core really was my first and one of my favourites of the series, despite there being a self-insert Gakt OC and .... other problems
WAIT! I've never seen the rollercoaster shooter before in my life and I've played the game quite a few times.
Yeah, it's really fun to try to get high scores on and get rewards. It's very difficult on PC since the porting process messed up the aim and speed the rollercoaster runs on, but it should be fine on the PS1 version if you have a PS3 with backwards compatibility or a PS Vita. I'm hoping the PS4 version is okay too.
FF7 was my first serious RPG experience; it was also my first ever PS1 game and I played it to the absolute, utmost limit. I enjoyed the experience immensely and was actually saddened when I reached the end of it all. I hope the remake does the original justice by expanding, but not wildly altering, the story.
Not many games will be remembered so well after 20 years. FF7 might still be the most special game I have ever played.
Ya forgot to mentio nthe fun game where the shinra soldiers are trying to take over that building/mound . I forget what its called, but its stil learly in the first part of the game after escaping from the midgard serpent.
I love this.
*FINAL FANTASY VII* IS THE MOST BELOVED GAME OF ALL-TIME
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FF7 is my favorite game of all time!
Uh... where is Cloud at 18:01??? I've played through FFVII at least four or five times now and have never seen that background anywhere.
That's the spiral down to the final boss. I think there's multiple ways you can go in that sequence, if I remember correctly.
I'm getting pissed off your channel hasn't blown up yet........
Lol, thanks buddy. It's been growing in spurts. Hoping I get another one soon.
Downward Thurst send me here! Great video guys
Uncle Death Thank you! Glad you enjoyed.
The last proper Final Fantasy game was Lost Odyssey. It's true. Check it out.
Been meaning to give Odyssey a try, heard great things about it. Was underwhelmed by Blue Dragon, despite its charm.
lucasterable (youtube channel) It definitely feels like Final Fantasy. Just not in the art style.
I think one point that gets missed, in the theme of why everyone loved this game is, simply the colors of the game. They are still cartoonish. This allows the players to enjoy the "fantasy", meanwhile it captures the thoughts, "the mind", the hearts and souls with their storytelling that is far too real. The final Fantasy Remake, with their new game designs, and graphic engines will remove that "fantasy" or cartoony imagery, and will make the end user left less satisfied when compared to the original 1995 FF7 . While true Fans will most certainly enjoy the remake, while trying to relive the flashbacks it will leave less for imagination and therefore wont be as Cartoony or fun in otherwords......................I think :D
But you guys made an excellent video for sure. very detailed in scope...
Thanks Toni, I agree that some of the charm and character of having cartoonish superdeformed characters got lost later in the series. I guess that's a tradeoff for more realistic and high-def graphics, but I do miss the over-the-top reactions and expressions of the little character models/sprites on-screen.
I honestly think it's less the cartoony proportions and more the overall presentation. You can have realistically proportioned characters in a vividly gorgeous game. As an example, look at the first Fable. It is definitely stylized, but still believable (aka not Chibi). Its use of color and whimsy is excellent in a 3D medium.
Another example is Breath of Fire IV. Those 2D sprites had very believable proportions and still came off as expressive and cartoon like. Suikoden 1 and 2 are also good examples.
I think relying on super-deformed chibis is a cop-out in the place of true creative expression. It is the "'member berry" of modern gaming trying to cash in on nostalgia without substance.
"Aireath" is a new one
Midgars design is so complicated i would often wonder. how they built and,and why.
and to this day we question why cloud couldn't spare a single Soft for Nanikis father or have Aerith cast Cure.
as many times as i played FF7 i completely forgot the High Wind had a anime girl on it.
i didn't know they released a expansion of the FF7 advent children movie.
video was longer than necessary i stopped with around 6 minutes left.
Am I the only one that hears 1997 at the beginning of this video?
All I want out of the remake is all of the story point cut scenes & dialogue to, perhaps remain entirely the same, but keep the same emotional impact... Or make it better.
My snes copy of final fantasy 2 is the japaneese correlation to ff5(job system) not ff4???? How is that?
That's really strange. FF5 was only ever released on cartridge for the Super Famicom.
can someone nerf this guys editing its op
They'll just release more Teemo skins instead.
I think Nomura had his own vision of what Cloud acted like based on his design.
I'm just glad we seem to be veering away from Nomura's Cloud
That’s super interesting to me considering he’s the person who originally designed Cloud, wasn’t he? Although I agree, so many interpretations of Cloud post FF7 don’t understand that character at all, they’re completely different characters in almost every way.
Good effort here guys. One thing though - we don't need to be reminded every 30 seconds that the game was groundbreaking and remains dear to people. We all know that before we click, so you could make these videos shorter and more focused by leaving that unsaid.
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Only people truly growing up in these time periods playing this can really understand the true experience that is FF VII and to that respect the PS era of rpgs. Its a shame all these millennial's with their there photo realistic graphics just can't see what makes these rpg games special. I tried to get my sister to play this and she couldn't get it into it. I asked her why? "Because the characters look like blocks and there is no voice acting". Well allow me to pass on some wisdom or knowledge to the uninitiated. First of all with respect to these classical hardware and rpg roots, the story telling medium really had no limits at this time because your dealing with sprite work and 2d backgrounds overlayed over polygonal textures. Just imagine the scope you had at your creative fingers to not only tell a massive story but create a huge world. We were not confined and restricted because of advanced technologies that were using today. With PS1 graphics, you can tell a fantasy epic that spanned 60-80 hrs. Can you do that now consistently like you did back then? Hardly! and here is why, all your games on modern generation hardware either have to tell a large scale story as a multiple episodic game series compromised of many games or things have to be prioritized to appeal to a certain audience. Example being many games today opt for more open world gameplay and structures in favor of placing more focus on narrative. As a result your left with lots of games that look huge and massive in scale from the out set but from a story perspective and design perspective, ultimately your in a much smaller space. and that is ONE of the MANY reasons why old classic story telling rpgs completely dwarfed the likes of many modern games you play today in this genre. Anyways this is just my personal insight into it. I have always been a huge fan of classic rpg story telling for this reason. I feel like after i finish a PS1 rpg, I went through a 60 hr epic narrative with a massive world teeming with many design philosophies and diversity. When i finish a PS4 game, its like ok. Finished act 1 and that was a splendid experience but where is Chapter 2 now?
I beat the Lingering Will from Kingdom Hearts II while listening to this. Don't know what you should do with that knowledge but yeah
Important information to know, thank you.
A lot of effort went into this video. You really should have more subs!
Thanks Aaron, that means a lot to me. I hope you enjoyed.
I wish that before crisis ffvii was remade to 3DS or android/ios devices :'(
FF7 was so.. topical for its time. The environmental pollution concerns, the cloning of Dolly controversy and Japan's struggling economy of the 90's were all alluded to in the game's themes one way or another. I don't think any other FF game tried to connect to the real world issues nearly as much as FF7 did.
I enjoy the VII series and XIII series equally. Both for different reasons.
Well, maybe not so much EU/ANZ players concerning being put on the same page. More like utter confusion given that none of the previous mainline installments were localized until VII in PAL regions. VII really open the door to get more RPGs in those areas, though, and ports of the older ones came rushing out quickly over the next few years.