Seems way too weak now. They don't want you to ever use it unless the enemy is knocked down I guess... lame, boring, flowchart forced play. Give Bison some freedom.
2:30 this was unnecessary,as every version of headstomp is unsafe besides OD which is plus. If Bison did it and didn't EX it,you got a guaranteed punish each time
Exactly this. All of Bison's BEST moves are locked behind OD. His high damage is resource hungry, and unlike Akuma his defenses are poor. Perhaps the problem lies in other characters being bad.
@@ouranos0101people just complained so dang much. Bison doesn’t even win as much tournaments or nothing they just find him annoying. Personally toning down the damage is okay. Everything else seems ridiculous to me.
So bisons gone from Top 3 to Mid tier, but Ken goes from Top1 to Top 5 back to Top 1? Why dont capcom just go and suck off all the players that mained ken. Daigo tokido AB.
💯 I rarely use devil's reverse because even if I get the jump on my opponent they can react late and hit me out of the sky. To me, it absolutely makes no sense.
@@julioalcaraz1989 No, not in a traditional sense (hard combos, execution, etc). It's just that you have to play the character ALOT to know exactly what combo to do and what option from your flow chart to choose after landing specific moves.
It's still very plus on block so it's still useful. It didn't make sense for "anti-air" moves to not be able to anti-air an aerial move consistently when read properly. They made Bison more skilled and less YOLO.
@@MrFraiche It definitely eliminates a lot of people that play Akuma or Bison just because they're strong. Now there won't be as much brain dead plays cuz they actually require skill now
@@MrFraiche That's fair, but you can take it out with a standing jab on most characters now. They went from too difficult to anti-air to too easy to anti-air with no stops in the middle first. I also disagree with you Vesper by OD PC nerfs. The move is iffy outside of OD, so the OD needs to be good since it is a party starter. They've done enough to it. Anymore, and they are gonna need to compensate him by giving him his teleport back.
Their next buff should be either them making Bison a hard character to pilot or throwing the high damage output idea out the window in exchange of making his pressure better.
They killed my main. There was absolutely no reason to mess around with the devil's reverse. Every pro has a pocket bison but do they win tournaments with him? No. Why? I think the biggest drawback is lack of a true reversal. You corner a bison and its an uphill battle from there. All they had to do was decrease his damage. Thats it....but nope.
@_Kroaken_ believe me, I'm breathing just fine. Don't overdo it with the sassy comment. It's ok to disagree without being a smarty pants 😉. P.s. it's always the people who don't play the character that have the most to say.
Make me really sad on this game, i love it in SFV or alpha, in SF the movie etc is a staple move alas is idiotic that a characther simply forgot that Make a rule: if you land a mine and teleport the mine expire and not do damage (lore Bison lose focus on the psycho power), Please make it back
@@FutileWar yeah ,Currently Sirn Bison can teleport and do other moves, but activating it during the fight is unfeasible, if the way to enable it was easier maybe it would be good :)
You can beat shadow rise/devil's reverse with a jab now.... the nerf was really stupid...
Seems way too weak now. They don't want you to ever use it unless the enemy is knocked down I guess... lame, boring, flowchart forced play. Give Bison some freedom.
@trilodroid3628 Thank you!
as a bison main i am just gonna say it, this patch is cheeks
Imagine nerfing Bisons offense but he has NO!.. defense. 🤯🤯
Before you could steer the hand to hit at the last active frame and avoid a detonation to keep the bomb on them but they took that away
Wait, no more double mine combos?
Bison is 👑
2:30 this was unnecessary,as every version of headstomp is unsafe besides OD which is plus. If Bison did it and didn't EX it,you got a guaranteed punish each time
Exactly this. All of Bison's BEST moves are locked behind OD. His high damage is resource hungry, and unlike Akuma his defenses are poor. Perhaps the problem lies in other characters being bad.
Thank you! My thoughts exactly. People who complain about fighting bison dont know the match up well.@@ouranos0101
@@ouranos0101people just complained so dang much. Bison doesn’t even win as much tournaments or nothing they just find him annoying. Personally toning down the damage is okay. Everything else seems ridiculous to me.
Wow you're clueless! @@riotv6
@ and so are you! @ThePoodle
So bisons gone from Top 3 to Mid tier, but Ken goes from Top1 to Top 5 back to Top 1? Why dont capcom just go and suck off all the players that mained ken. Daigo tokido AB.
Nah, Ken has always been mid
tier 🤣
Capcom just should have made Bison's mines charging type. Like Ryu's electricity. One each time.
I don’t think that’d do anything
@@williamalbatross4677 Sorry, I mean it should be stacked. No charge, no bomb. Like Lily's wind but just one every time.
Good stuff VA.
Bison is defo not as Powerful as he was Pre-Patch but him being easy too use, still makes him a good Option too Play.
What happened 2 the bison fireball?
Prepping him for when they add teleport
Devil rise is bison's only weapon because he has no reversal. This patch is crippled him. Give m bison reversal too
💯 I rarely use devil's reverse because even if I get the jump on my opponent they can react late and hit me out of the sky. To me, it absolutely makes no sense.
@@flick2flick timing an variety, even before patch. Devil rise not that OP. But now bison just walking punching bag
This all reads as very fair for how simple Bison is to pick up and nuke health bars with. If a character is easy, they should have a realistic ceiling
How about Shin Bison?
I'm droping edd for aki
Thet need to change bison jumping light kick animation,looks goofy af
If you say its an easy character, why does the game say his ease of use "hard" ???
Charge input
@_Kroaken_ 🤷
The hard part about Bison is learning all of his Mine Combos and the flow chart of options after DR on Oki.
@@Friedafterbirth so hes a hard character to master?
@@julioalcaraz1989 No, not in a traditional sense (hard combos, execution, etc). It's just that you have to play the character ALOT to know exactly what combo to do and what option from your flow chart to choose after landing specific moves.
The nerfs to Shadow Rise/Devil's Reverse are completely unnecessary. The rest is understandable.
It's still very plus on block so it's still useful. It didn't make sense for "anti-air" moves to not be able to anti-air an aerial move consistently when read properly. They made Bison more skilled and less YOLO.
@@MrFraiche It definitely eliminates a lot of people that play Akuma or Bison just because they're strong. Now there won't be as much brain dead plays cuz they actually require skill now
@@MrFraiche That's fair, but you can take it out with a standing jab on most characters now. They went from too difficult to anti-air to too easy to anti-air with no stops in the middle first.
I also disagree with you Vesper by OD PC nerfs. The move is iffy outside of OD, so the OD needs to be good since it is a party starter.
They've done enough to it. Anymore, and they are gonna need to compensate him by giving him his teleport back.
Nope, completely neccesary, people should be able to anti-air devil's reverse they see coming from miles away consistently
Let's ratio this clown yall
Their next buff should be either them making Bison a hard character to pilot or throwing the high damage output idea out the window in exchange of making his pressure better.
They killed my main. There was absolutely no reason to mess around with the devil's reverse. Every pro has a pocket bison but do they win tournaments with him? No. Why? I think the biggest drawback is lack of a true reversal. You corner a bison and its an uphill battle from there. All they had to do was decrease his damage. Thats it....but nope.
LOL
Killed?? These new sf players are the biggest doomers. Take a deep breath.
@_Kroaken_ believe me, I'm breathing just fine. Don't overdo it with the sassy comment. It's ok to disagree without being a smarty pants 😉. P.s. it's always the people who don't play the character that have the most to say.
@flick2flick what can I say? I'm a sassy boy ;)
@@_Kroaken_ I challenge you to a duel. Sassy vs. Take a deep breath. Battle of the best!! Drop that tag.
They literally could just delete Devils Reverse, It's worthless now.
thank god they fixed him i always said he was super broken
Broken for scrubs like you
@@nogg8739lmao you're salty
Yeah I don’t think he’s super broken, he has no reversals. And a lot of openings if not spaced correctly
I haven't watched a video in awhile, but you sound mad different compared to like a year ago.
looks like it's just this video as of now lol.
Pls do AKI next
Make me really sad on this game, i love it in SFV or alpha, in SF the movie etc is a staple move alas is idiotic that a characther simply forgot that
Make a rule: if you land a mine and teleport the mine expire and not do damage (lore Bison lose focus on the psycho power),
Please make it back
Make teleport use 3 or 4 drive point maybe
But Bison in sf6 has no teleport
@@emesots yeah and that make me super sad, maybe we can implement that
@@FutileWar yeah ,Currently Sirn Bison can teleport and do other moves, but activating it during the fight is unfeasible, if the way to enable it was easier maybe it would be good :)
Mid tier Bison.
Ken or Rashid main will be winning the Cup. Easy bet!
Nerf his ass already lol
Scrub crying to crapcom for nerf
Gitgud
Why bison wasn't winning tons of tournaments ....it was cammy
@@nogg8739 Oh come on, you both know it's not the real char until they get some balancing. Let's not be dumb.
Please more nerfs for Bison
Smooth brained take
Your brain got nerfed
@@dontworryaboutit5490this response is legendary lol
Scrub alert. Bison wasnt even the best char in the game. They really needed to nerf Rashid's lvl 2