Making Straw - John Deere 6620 & 912 Belt Pickup Head
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- Опубліковано 9 сер 2017
- Our good friend Ryan uses their 6620 and 912 head to harvest their oats! We will be taking some of their straw.
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Great video. Nice to see a Titan combine with a windrow pick up.
To all the people still confused as to why the swather method is used: as said in the video it is done primarily to deal with the weeds that will come back and dont die off like the stems of the oats do: So they dont dry out, and you have high moisture in your samples. If you cut it down and allow it to dry out, you then get a more even moisture sample and a smaller likelyhood of it heating and rotting in the bin.
The second reason is that it results in a more even crop flow into your main thrashing cylinder, meaning you can move faster without fear of plugging up your combine.
The third reason is it will actually give you a slightly cleaner sample in some cases. When the swather drops the windrow, all the heads are pointing in the same direction. ( You can kinda see it in the video where the row kinda makes an arrow pointing into the feederhouse.) This means that the first thing into the cylinder is the heads themselves, which allows for easier thrashing and less fuel burnt.
And as for leaving the ol' rubber finger spreader on: I'm really not sure either in all honesty. Looking at the conditions in the video i might be inclined to say that they could be looking at a lot of dew in the mornings, which would mean that spreading the straw would help it get dry so that it can get baled sooner.
As always Ryan, great video! I hope you enjoy making them as much as I enjoy watching them! It's all about having fun! ;P
its amazing to see how many people don't watch the whole video. A ton of the questions asked repeatedly are answered right in the video.
Can't beat the good ol 6620 sidehill combines. They were great machines and simple to operate. Great machine for the small farmer. Good job boys!
WesternWi Farmer they are great combines. We picked a 6620 about 3 years ago to replace our 4400 that developed a major rear crank seal leak. Boy that was like going from a model T to a Cadillac. That 6620 just eats.
Thats exactly why we Swath... Drys out the crop faster!!
Oh, such memories! Many years ago, I spent long hours, many acres, with JD #55 combine with belt pickup. I think this one was six belts wide. Ours was four belts. The harvest was for grass seed. The crop had been cut down with New Idea 7 ft tow-behind mower, with attached swather. This makes the swaths 7 feet apart. The belt pickup was mounted on a 12 ft wide header, and was mechanically driven. Rather than gauge wheels for height control, our pickup had shoes that slid along the ground. But, the roller spacing, the belt widths, and the teeth on the belts, .... all look identical. The belt pickup was advantageous over a tine pickup because the grass seed would shatter from the heads while being handled. The seeds fell onto the belts and was carried into the combine. Seed loss during the pickup process was minimal. The swaths may have laid in the the field for as long as six weeks after swathing, and before harvest. One week was minimum.
never seen a header like that before but i have now...... Thanks for the video Ryan...
It’s funny because in the us u hardly see people combining like that but here in Canada that is all we see. Sometimes bigger farmers will use Draper heads but not always
I'm from Iowa and we don't have much oats and wheat combined in general because they are planted for forage and chopped for dairy cattle.
Love seeing old equipment like this in action. When I start farming I will definitely be getting a 6620.
Great video. One of our local farmers uses a John Deere 6620 Titan II Sidehill to do corn with a 6 row JD Corn head.
Nice Set Up
I've never seen it done like that thanks guys
Nice footage with the drone!
I sat on a tool box on one of those for years beautiful machine!
Great to see old equipment in action
Great vid Ryan Smile More God Bless Stay Safe guys 👍👍
Great to see a new video on my birthday
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Its so satisfying to see farm work
As usual, Ryan, Nice video. Gives a pretty good representation of how rolly the ground is there. Thanks for posting this!!
+57fitter no problem, thank you for watching!
Amazing how many people are just LOSING IT over this belt pickup
Amazing video Ryan! keep up the good work!👍
That 6620 looks well kept I like it
I started to sneeze just watching this video
Looks like a pretty small windrow for that size combine.
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@How Farms Work great vid and keep up the great work
So that's what those tiny combine things are! I see them all the time here in Alberta.
I feel like this could be on those oddly satisfying videos. Pretty neat
I love the 20 series and the 22 series combines
Another great video ! I've noticed that since planting the corn, there haven't been any updates on how the corn crop is growing and if they field inspect the corn ears to determine if they are getting the results they were expecting. I only see the corn stalks in the background that they are growing. Just wondering.
Great Video. Awesome Channel.
That’s awesome 👏🏼
Same we traded our 6620 for a 9510 last year
Bro. i am from India(Punjab) i am also farmer i love to see ur videos God Bless you Brother
6620 Ryan, tell your friend in the cab I love Pigeon Forge & Gatlenberg all the way from Canaderds. KIT d
Nice job and nice video
The farm I go to did this with wheat last year. With a old gleaner
were peanut farmers down in Florida and we use a kmc 4 row picker pulled behind a john deer 7810 and a peanut digger on a john deer 7800 and I'll say it's a hard life as a farmer
I like the tractor on the gravity wagon and on the auger
good video ryan!
My uncle has the exact same setup at his ranch in central Montana
Thanks for asking why he harvest with 912 HEADER instead draper HEADER, we use this front for canola in Australia.
I miss picking up windrows
Love the video
Nice vid
Neverseen a pickup with grip tires in my life b4...lol
Great video, what year is the combine? Thanks.
I think for the amount of Straw these people bale its not worth taking the spinners or straw choppers off to windrow the straw... John Deere wasnt thinking when they designed the choppers on the combines....its a pain in the ass to move my chopper over on the 9600... on my New Hollands... You just close the door...takes 3 seconds.. .Boom ..Windrow.!!!
That's cool
I like the music. Any chance you know the name of the song or artist that starts about the 7 mark?
Hey Ryan my grandpa just bought a 6620 and we are gonna combine soybeans with it if the weather ever cooperates but i was wondering how to adjust it to put out cleaner grain in the bin/tank
How does the machine separate the oats from the rest of the plant? It looks amazing to me how that machine can do that.
Lidsman22 go to youtube and type the question in and you will get a video showing you how it is done.
why didnt he just drop the belt on the spreader and windrow directly out of the combine. saves another trip across the field with tractor and rake. Dad always did it that way. Enjoyed the video
I think it may help to keep it dry for baling later. Once it gets rained on and is in a windrow it won't dry out. With it spread it can take rain better and then rake into a windrow just before baling. Also, if it's like my E Gleaner, I had to remove the spreader or the straw piles up on it til it reaches the walkers and then plugs the walkers. So it may be they didn't want to go through the hassle for a few acres. My Dad's E didn't have that problem. It was older and the spreader was slanted slightly so the straw slid off.
was the oats planted as a cover crop for new seeding? The pipe on the tractor sounded nice
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Is it just me, or does the swather cut the oats much closer to the ground than a combine with a small grain head would?
Yes you have to.. if you swath it to high the windrows would fall between the stubble and the pick up header wouldnt be able to pick it up
I knew you'd have an answer.
That's how you do it if you want to bale the straw even if you were to direct cut it. We used to direct cut oats but we baled the straw so we cut low but still tried to stay above the alfalfa which would cause problems if we didn't. When you swath you didn't have to worry about cutting too low. Direct cutting if you cut too low the wet alfalfa is a problem, as I said, but too high is a problem if you want to bale. The swather removes both problems.
in Norway we use normal header for oats
Massey Ferguson 6290 many people do in America aswell. I have never seen this process, it seems like a waste of diesel.
That's 6620 bring back bad memory we had a 7720 and in 2011 it went up in flames during soybean harvest then we bought a 9600
Spacekittensbro no it wasn't
California may win on weather but Wisconsin wins for beauty... Any field work days are entertaining. Saves the drive in the bluffs scouting bambi.
Ryan are you guys hearing the futures price on your corn and soybeans? I listen to the market reports and both are trending to the down side they are forecasting for higher yields in soy crops this year
I love how john deers look. In 2nd place it will new Holland.
What speed is the combine doing? Looks like a slow process
it is normal speed so 2 miles an hour i think (if we harvest grass seed we drive 3.5 kilometer same as harvesting wheat)
Wow. Combine driver must have the patience of a saint haha
Do you guys bale corn stalks or do you just bale straw
They usually bale corn stalks for bedding-- I guess they needed some barley straw, maybe for calves in the milk barn?? Just a guess...
Later! OL J R :)
Can you make a tour video of your farm?
Man that gravity wagon is super rusty
Yah
i am really surprised Brian just doesnt disconnect the spreader and save some compaction if hes gonna bale it up and save that step
I had the same thought. Why not just drop the straw in a windrow & bale it. Wouldn't need to rake it then.
glenn s They would probably end up raking it anyways to make a tighter windrow
the rows would have to much in them for a small baler probaby
Farmer 4230 that is straight up crap
It makes sense but I think they dont do to much straw baling so they just leave it on.
Is that your guys old side hill 6620
How fast is he going?
Does the John Deere 6620 also have the soybean and corn heads?
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why does he not take of the chain or belt that drives the spreater
Are you from England or USA?
i wonder if they really do need the side hill function of their JD 6620?
Good Lord, One drone view showed about a 10 % grade from the rear quarter view. Looked much like a terrace. Wouldn't that warrant a sidehill?
Ya i see it now but a side-hill function my be need if using a old JD 6620
Combine 2 wheel drive or 4 wheel drive
Almost certainly 2wd, but they used such big rear tires for flotation that they have tractor tread on them. My BIL's 9600 is the same way (and they moved up to even larger rears for better flotation).
Later! OL J R :)
You should go to the waupaun truck show
i guess I am just trying to figure out what the rush is to get the oats out of the field
If it rains on the swathed windrows the heads will release their grain to some extent. Entire point of growing grain is to put it in the bin, not on the ground. Did this with some horribly weedy wheat once, everywhere the rain water had got to the swath the combine got quiet and nothing came into the bin. Submerged then = 100% loss. I could kick up triple ground speed and it made no difference in load on the engine or grain flow into the bin. As soon as I left the low lying areas the grain just poured in again and I had to slow way down. The very cleanest and fastest harvest I ever did was like this with much older equipment too.
Every day standing grain remains in the field is another day it can be lost to storms or damaged, eaten by birds, etc. If you've ever seen a field that was about 99% ready to harvest get smashed flat and ruined by a hailstorm, or had a standing crop in the field ready to harvest getting rained on every day, you'd know why there's such a rush to get the crop out of the field.
Once it's in the bin, you're pretty well safe. Course they also need time to get their straw dried out, raked, baled, and stacked in the barn as well... can't do that until the grain is threshed in the combine, so there's another reason to get it done...
Later! OL J R :)
where from u bro. ? which country & state ?? plz tell
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what does the side hill mean please
peter james there are hydraulic cylinders that control each of the front wheels up and down movement so it always keeps the machine level even when driving on the side of a hill. The header follows the contour of the ground. You'll notice in this video how sometimes you'll see the combine and header look like they're not level with each other. That's because the combine is on the side of a hill.
As a person that isnt a farmer but very interesting. Is oats in the hay or is there a certain product grown to make oats and from the comments it seems its harvested again as hay so just wanted to know. I think the videos are great but i think Ryan should try to explain things as if everyone watching is completely clueless cause some of us are
Oats grows much like grass... in fact oats, wheat, and all the other cereal grains in fact ARE grasses, biologically members of the grass family, that is. The plant grows and looks much like grass until it boots out and produces grain in a head near the top of the plant. The plant transfers most of the stored nutrients and food from the plant's stems and leaves into the grain, then the grain ripens and the stems and leaves dry out and the grain dries out til it's ready to harvest.
SO now you've got a standing crop of grain (oats) in the field ready to harvest. You can harvest the grain in a couple ways-- you can direct-cut combine them with a reel and sicklebar header platform on the combine, which snips off the stalks and heads and feeds it into the combine to be threshed... this will gather the grain and thresh and clean it for sure, but it's not really the best method for maximum straw production. The grain has a lot of value, sure, but the straw (dry stems mostly) themselves have value, as animal bedding, particulary for dairy cow bedding (among others). Direct cutting leaves a higher standing stubble (which isn't cut or gathered as straw) and so there's less straw coming out the back of the combine to be baled.
The other option is to swath the crop with a grain swather, which basically is a belt header and sicklebar with a reel on it-- it snips the stalks off closer to the ground and transports all the cut off stems and heads of grain to the center and deposits them in a windrow to be threshed later. The grain is then allowed to dry out in the windrow (which is faster than drying standing grain in some areas, particularly the far north) and then later a combine with the belt header pickup attachment comes back in the field and combines the windrows. The combine separates the grain from the straw, cleans the grain, and moves it to the tank for unloading and storage/sale. The straw is discharged out the back for baling... Usually the straw is discharged straight down out the back of the combine rather than scattered about like this machine was set up to do, but it can be spread out if it needs to dry or to allow the fines (bits of ground up leaves and other light, chaffy material) to fall out on the ground. Then when the straw is ready to be baled, the straw is raked back into a windrow and baled up by the baler, and the bales picked up for storage or sale.
Make sense?? Later! OL J R :)
I dont understand how this works. Do thay harvest it with a grass cutter and whait until its dry and after that take a combine and belt header and harvest it and you windrow it and make bales. AND what happned with the oats do thy plant it soon ore what??
Sorry but im swedish and havent seen this before
TheWilliamTW When most farmers do it the cut it with a draper style head similar to what you would use on a combine. Then they will pick it up and that's when they get the actual oats. If that makes sense
Thank you it make sense now
TheWilliamTW hej, typ man klipper det först sen fördelar tröskan halmen och fröna
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Yay first comment love the vids Ryan!!
So why do you swath it instead of directly combine it with a header? In Germany no one does it like that.
We swath lots here still...He said it on the video why they do it... Drys out the weeds and flows through the combine easier
Northern farmer yeah but why? Are there any advatages by doing tjat instead of direct combining it?
Its either that or Direct combine it tough and dry it...or spray it down and desicate it with glyphosate. I dont have a big sprayer so I windrow most of my crop
Hate me if you want to, but do you call that a spreader?
What else would it be called?
A windrow deformer, barely spreads.
Ignafiltro Sanchez we call it octopus hahaha
but the combine also isn't that big so if you spread it to wide you will pick it up the next round (;
The width is ok, is not uniform, most is on the middle.
Why not just take the spreader belt off and bale behind the combine?
Gary Morel I thought that too
The straw may be wet so to give it more of a chance of drying it would be better to spread it and then row it up.
Felix Glanville if the straw is that wet then he shouldn't be combing the oats. The moisture is to high to store the grain.
lol yea no doubt hey
Its to dry more of the alfalfa and weeds than anything.
Farmer
why not combine oats and skip the extra step of using the swather
the oats is then to wet so it needs to dry down a bit same as grain you let it kinda die before you harvest it
Different areas have different climates. If you seed down the oats with alfalfa or something it is easier to combine it swathed because it dries out better especially if you have weeds. And a swathed oat crop does combine better just because the whole plant is drier. It is a dying practice though with today's combines having more power and better feeding from the headers. Ourselves, we used to straight cut ours here in Minnesota when most of our neighbors swathed because Dad wanted to skip that step even though we seeded down with alfalfa. So to each their own.
Oh, almost forgot but back in the day the oat genetics weren't quite as good either and if you could swath them before they fell down from a wind you were better off rather than waiting for the oats to fully dry standing. Genetics have changed that variable too with better standing crops.
Why wouldn't you just take off the spreader it is pretty stupid to take straw, we do it all the time in Canada
Probably to much of a pain to take it off for the amount they do.
Northern farmer Cool seeing you here! Love your videos!
Wyatt Ogilvie all they need to do is take the belt off
Its to dry it out faster before you bale. Kind of like tedding.
Iowadairyboys...its in the swath should it should have been dry by now??
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how come you farmers always have pretty girls riding around with you ? Makes me want to start farming.
Direct cutting oats that still has green straw is no fun at all.
Why is he run pick up real that fast
Why don't you use tanem axle trucks so you can save your tractors of Rode use
Expensive. Plus you need the people who can drive them.
Licensing and insurance cost keep rising slowly making owning a truck for a smaller farmer too expensive. Especially in some states where they require a CDL and DOT inspections. It's government's way of putting out the little guy. Like one US Ag Secretary told the farmers many years ago, "Get big or get out". Now that particular Ag Secretary wasn't talking about government controlling farmers. He wanted big production due to food shortage fears of the 70's, but today the government does promote big farmers by making it too expensive for small farms to even start up. I have a semi but if the state gets it's wish then I won't for long. I'll be forced ti hire the hauling because I can't justify the yearly fees in keeping it. For me even the wheel tax hurts enough (a tax for every wheel that hits the road) so you pay more for a dually pickup, though my trailer for now is exempt, but the government always wants more.
I don't understand the use of a swather. While you're cutting the oats, why not use the combine and cut it/thrash it all at once? Sorry, I did not understand the logic at the end of the video.
Dickie B they cut the oats with the swatter so as to allow the dry matter to dry down some before it is run through the concave or threashing cylinder on the combine... this allows the machine to more easily process the grain from the the chaff and straw.... the grain comes out much lower in moisture and better quality... it also allows the straw to be cut much lower than direct cut
why don't he unload on the go.. chicken maybe? I would love having a engine for a armrest said no one ever!
Not that big of a hurry... and a gravity box is a lot smaller target than an auger cart... Plus, I'd think with the hillside feature, it would be a lot more difficult to unload "on the go" since the combine will adjust itself to the slope of the ground, which would change how far away the cart would need to be from the combine... in addition to changing the distance between the height of the auger and the receiving cart...
later! OL J R :)
I agree with the engine being in a poor spot. After running my old L2 I always wondered how Deere sold any combines. They just aren't user friendly IMO. The only thing my L2 needs is a reverser and it would be golden.
Oat straw... Thats the worst...
Soybean straw is way worse. We used to bay that too and use for bedding. Dirty itchy horrible stuff.
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