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Thanks Ryan, great video. Would love to see a continuation series with this horse to learn how to deal with similar problems / holes in a horse's training.
Enjoyed your video. I've found, all animals never forget things. Sure, you can re-train problem areas, but they never forget. I was in 6th grade and was able to spend time with a race horse, who wouldn't let anyone near him. After a couple days, of just talking to him, he trusted me enough to dress a wound on his hind leg and give him a bath. He was very smart. I worked with him, with no lead or ropes. He bent down, when I asked, so I could get on him. He did buck, but I stayed on him. And he never did it again, because I told him if he does, I won't ride him. One day, boys from my school came to watch. I was brushing him, when the boys did something to severely spook him. I ended up getting kicked, and chased out of his pen. Turned out, the boys picked up a stick and tried petting the horses face with it. The owner knew from that, that the horse had been whipped by previous owner. I told the owner, to get a whip and cut it up in front of the horse, stomp on it, then let the horse watch you throw it away. Anyway, it was fun watching your training method. I prefer bareback, with nothing. I talk to the horses and teach them verbal commands, which works for me...:-) Trust is a big thing with all animals. Oh, and I worked with him in a small 10x20 area. Another thing, was flies. I don't like flies or getting swatted with a horses tail, so I put a little lemon fresh dishwashing detergent in a bucket with water and he loved it. I never saw another fly...;-) I was still wearing a diaper, when an older boy and I climbed onto an unbroken stallion. I told the horse to push me up on him, with his nose. He started to, then bit my butt. I explained it better and tried again. He pushed me up so fast, I almost flew over him, but the boy who was already on him caught me...;-) He lifted the horses tail, and walked up his backside to get on. I didn't want to try that move....;-) He didn't buck or anything, but he kept swatting us with his tail. That stings alot!
Kathleen, don't listen to the hater who said snarky things about you. Everybody needs to learn. You are obviously seeking the best help you can get. Keep studying and working with Ryan and you will keep improving. However, I must agree as a long time rider/trainer that you should be wearing a helmet and maybe chest protection as well until you have a lot more confidence in this horse. Ryan will help you a lot. But what he can do with the horse, and what you can do will be different. Take it slowly and stay safe.
Someone took a sort of broke horse and started roping! He is a nice horse and deserved much better! Glad the new owner asked Ryan for help! He has a nice future!!
Yes would definitely like to see your whole process with this horse. It appears to me that this is pretty typical of a lot of rodeo/roping horses. They barely get the basics and then it's zero to a hundred every day. So the go with the minimal leg pressure it's not surprising to me, but I've only been training for 45yrs. I have seen so many horses like this in that time.
@@foresthiker6707no! He should not ditch the flag. There’s nothing wrong with working with it even if he seems calm. You need to understand that a horse is a prey animal and herd animal. Like Ryan said “we need to be the herd leader and that means to move their feet and release the pressure when they give us the right answer.” Speak horse language - they can’t speak human.
This owner has a heart of gold and wants to do the best for her horse. She is very brave to open herself up to add additional education in front of an audience. There are many horses out there just like him with riders who are stuck in and struggle to achieve the next level in training . He’s going be a nice horse and I’m looking forward to more videos of him.
Yes, a continuation series would be very informative! I enjoyed today's training more than usual because this horse was challenging yet obviously willing to learn.
This man is absolutely amazing with horses. I have been into horses for 45 years. And he fixes things that I never thought could be fixed. But he's amazing. He sees the holes in their training and he goes back to groundwork and fixes it. He is really an amazing man. I appreciate that you appreciate him. Especially not being into horses because there are too many Yahoo trainers out there and not enough real trainers. Most trainers be the horse in 2 submission or work them into submission. He doesn't make a working horse. He makes a working partner. He is amazing.
This is a fantastic video. This really made me think and gave me more tools. I would love to see a continuation. Thank you to the owner for sharing her challenges and letting us viewers learn from it
I’m not in the horse business any longer, but had a mare just like this guy. Wish I had these tools in my belt back then. You are one of the greats, Ryan, and so humbly presented that we don’t feel like idiots in the process. Horse training makes us better people, even when we don’t have a horse!
That was super helpful. In my opinion, the horse has been used to people jumping on and he was supposed to go do whatever immediately and quickly. And when he did, the ride would be over because the cow was roped. So the anticipation of that has him nervous. Ryan wanting him to relax and teaching him how to do that was just lovely. He seems like a great horse. Would love to see him progress.
Years ago, a friend of mine got LAUNCHED off his horse. He asked me to come check the gelding out, and figure out what happened. I discovered the horse was really under exposed, but very introverted. So he "hid" his true emotional state well enough that everyone thought he was "fine". He was a right brain introvert, and would tend to freeze when bothered. So it was plain to see that he froze, and if bothered too much, he'd explode. I found he was very willing, very kind, gentle, and wanted to please. He just had a lot of holes in his training and nervousness. I spent several sessions just building a language with him, and getting some patterns and trust. He was a fantastic big horse, but he didn't get worked with consistently. So his training fell apart years later. He was very much like this roan, in mh opinion. Almost like a flashback. It breaks my heart and simultaneously makes me angry that people will barely start a colt, and just ride them and find ways to force or coerce or avoid triggering the horse, and tiptoe-- just enough to sort of be functional. Then sell the animal and get people hurt or killed. I am not here to hate on any sport. But ive seen more rodeo horses that have to be ridden with NO LEG contact, and a tight tie down, and a long shank bit just to keep enough control to sort of survive the event and get off. Always better to put a solid and THOROUGH foundation on a horse, and frequently revisit each element if there's trouble along the way.
You couldn’t be more right. I have been given permission to ride one of the horses at my barn. My barn owner told me “to be careful of I use the snaffle because they are thick.” I have standard loose ring snaffles that I start all of my horses in. The best part - I was told not to do hind end yields because it could screw the horse up! This mare is exactly the same in my snaffle as she is in her little s hackamore, which is to say heavy. She has zero feel, zero give, and is dull to the bit. She also bucks at the canter. She hasn’t bucked with me, but I also don’t get on until she’s calm and quiet on the ground. She’s got loads of holes in her training, she can’t stay upright to save her life on a small circle (I think she’s learned to use the tie down as a means of bracing and leaning on it - I refuse to ride with a tie down). She drops her shoulder at the second a circle is introduced, and she throws her head in the air the second any pressure is applied (even in a halter). I’ve made the decision to never ride her again because the owner has no desire to fix any of this. My barn owner also sees no reason to fix this. I will never understand, but this is the same person that lets a 20 something pony run over them at the idea of going through a tight spot. They also the issue and therefore it’s not an issue. I just can’t understand any of this thinking, but they are barrel racers and western gaming people.
Horses are so beautiful but they can be so dangerous. My neighbors are very experienced with horses but both of them have injuries. The husband lost an eye from a horse kick and his wife has pins in her leg from an injury during a competition. Ryan is an excellent trainer, he is saving the lives of both the riders and horses.
I've trained dogs for 50+ years and worked some with horses (but have watched TONS of great videos like yours). I love watching the similarities in training techniques and successes between the two animals, even though one is a predator and the other is a prey animal. One thing that some of my students (who trained initially with other trainers) have the most resistance to is going back to basics in order to get the best results. Your suggestion of watching the colt starting program is so appropriate! Love that!!! I find that going back to "retrain" (or go back for basic training that they never got) takes less time and better results that trying to "fix it" by going "forward" from where you are. Love your videos and hope to see more of this horse in the future.
I use the same techniques for training people as they have exactly the same triggers and patterns and are often worse than animals, look at animal training... its more people training than it is for the animal!
@@jamie.miller.inspiring When I trained with K9 PD I found this out a lot. We went over the 4 quadrants for behavior modification really well, but then performing them is a totally different story. I wasn't there for K9 training. . . .I was there for handler training and maybe 5% or less was spent on the dog during training time. It was all on me and how I was giving or not giving cues. Was I "marking" at the right times and on the right behaviors? Was I using the correct quadrant for the behavior I wanted to improve or make go away? I had to take video of myself training every week and turn it in and part way through I was critiquing myself like "Oh, I marked at the wrong time", "Oh, I used the wrong quadrant for that, but I commited", "I really didn't ask for an improvement in the time she had to stay in position before I marked that behavior" and I needed to be able to recognize my own faults and learn from them. I had no idea when I signed up (and I train horses too) that 95%+ of the work was going to be training me and not the dog.
@blackdandelion5549 it was truly a pleasure reading that as what you wrote shows how committed to self improvement you are, which has a huge flow on effect in everything you do as well as what you work with :) Animals and humans at the end of the day are all souls simply in different bodies for different experiences which was something i learnt during my nde. All it takes is to look into an animals eyes and feel, then you feel their soul the way they do ours. Most issues ive found with human training with animals is they think they are just an animal, which the "animal" senses and acts accordingly..... Treat them like a soul in a different body and they respond the way Ryan shows in his videos 😍 The biggest advice to anyone reading this is to learn how to regulate your emotions and your nervous system and without anything else you will witness the "animals" responding to you very differently without any training too! Its always a miscommunication issue, like in this video the horse did not understand due to lack of time spent connecting and showing what each thing like leg pressure etc means, which is why Ryan even said you can make anything mean whatever the lady wants by simply spending time showing him when i do this, i want this in this moment because with the connection in the moment the horse will sense youe intentions with very little feedback. Everything Ryan does in these videos at their core is essentially the same, helping people build a deeper connection with each horse and owner so that they understand the telepathy connection between one another 💖 Thats why i love horses as they read everything so easily and I love when people say wow ive never witnessed what you just did with my horse before with little effort (because I maintain my emotions and nervous system so I'm predictable for the horse to consistently read) :)
I'm a dog trainer with no horse training (I am allergic 😭) and there are things I've learned from horse trainers, dog trainers, farmers, ranchers, and even bird trainers and rescues Being open to learning something new is part of being a good trainer. If you insist that the same thing will work in EVERY scenario because it's YOUR way, you care more about your reputation than you do the animal One thing I learned from a parrot trainer is that the animal has one language, and trainers are used to reading their language, but they can't always communicate back and the average human doesn't know anything. Humans speak human languages (in this case English) and repeating a command in English will never really help an animal understand what it means. By working together, the animal and the human learn the shared language of "Training". By creating patterns and making the expectation clear, the use of "Training" can be a bridge to the animal learning certain English words (commands) and even adapting to new people, but every human and animal has to be taught "Training" individually In my job, I spend about 10-20 minutes teaching the thing to the dog, and the next 30-60 trying to get the handlers to be able to replicate what I did to get the results It really is PEOPLE training Or I guess being an animal interpreter
Horses go so much off of body language so when a person comes onto the scene that is acting like a leader and not actually posing any threat to them they can read that all in body language. It's also why horses don't like certain people because they notice the smallest details in how people move and carry themselves. One that rocked my world was when I had an untouched horse that I had just gentled enough to have vet work and an experienced farrier work on her and a 90 yr old woman wanted to see the horses as she rode and was a horsewoman in her day and I agreed. This woman put her canes down as to not scare the horses and just walked right up to that untouched mare that was just gentled and wrapped her arms around that horse and the horse's entire face/head and the horse treated her like a delicate 90 yr old woman who just wanted to love on her. The woman looked at me and said "Can I take her home with me?". She just gave off this aura of love and that she was not a threat at all and the horses let her do whatever she wanted to them. That mare had tried to kick the first farrier she saw and he made nasty comments about her and was incredibly rude to the horse and to me and she was not going to let that man just touch her when she was barely handled. They can read people.
Awesome Ryan! The biggest takeaway from this video was 'go back to the basics again'. Absolutely BRILLIANT advise! Just my opinion but for whatever reason I believe that too many people underestimate how powerful and beneficial this can be both for the horse and the owner. We all need to understand that going back isn't going backwards.. more often than not it means we're taking massive steps forward! Thankyou for your expertise knowledge and humility. Simply amazing! 👏👏👏❤
This is my horse as well. Though she was never a rodeo or roping horse but have some similarities like very unbalanced in the canter and is hard for her. Also, barely touching her with my leg and she wants to take off. It is nice to watch a video that is what I can relate to instead of watching a video of a well trained and broke horse. The reason why we watch these videos is because we need help or need to look for hole a in our training or the training of the horse and address it. Thank you so much for this video and owner for sharing. I would love to see the rest of the training.
Ryan, your friend Laura who met you at RTTH in March! The reason you are above and beyond other trainers is because you are emotionally intelligent, as is the owner in this series. You posess the ability to articulate effectively, and I am learning volumes to make everything i've learned in my decades of horsemanship come together. THANK YOU! Enjoy Hawaii, makes me want to do a watercolor!
First off I’m very envious of that view where those families are! Spectacular! I’m so glad you emphasized the importance of ground work and that there is no set time limit before you should hop on! What a difference in the horses emotions from start of video to the end of session. The owner is going to have an amazing horse after! Great job everyone!
Ryan's training methods are so thoughtful and straightforward. When you learn how horses work and how to speak in a way they understand, it all makes so much sense. When I was young it was all about pushing them through things, not quitting until they do what you want, with no thought whatsoever toward relaxation or emotional fitness. It was about the physical response, their obedience in their bodies. But nothing about how to improve their comfort, their capacity, their willingness. It didn't matter what they were or weren't sweet on. Applying this way of thinking about things has allowed me to make so much progress with my lease horse and we're building his emotional fitness as well as my own now. He's making efforts to stay checked in with me and to think about what he's being asked, and he's so much happier for it. I hope one day ALL training looks like this.
Would love to see a continuation series! Side reins, so good to hear what you had to say about them. I only use them for specific reasons, lately was just to help a horse with some strength. I don’t put them on and put a horse on endless circles….pet hate. Good to see a horse who gets bothered in the three circle game and what you need to do rather rather than just accommodate them, excellent.
Hands down, the best horse training video I’ve watch in a lot of years! Please continue this as a series Ryan! ❤ SO MUCH GREAT INFORMATION IN THIS! I applauded the owner for reaching out and asking for help! Wish more owners would! NEVER STOP LEARNING!
This is wonderful. I have an ex-broodmare that is displaying a similar behavior. She had not been for about 10 years. I got her too when I purchased her foal. She’s wonderful on the trail and at the walk and trot, but does a little buck when cantering under saddle. She is fine in the round pen cantering under saddle with without a rider. I am slowly trying to get her back into shape. This video has given me all kinds of ideas. Thank you.
So thankful that you where so brave to share with us your difficulties with your horse! Its a copy of my horse, and I already have learned so much from this video! Please do a continuation!
It’s so easy to just start clucking approaching and moving the whip at the same time. I do it sometimes. I always remind myself to slow down and separate the escalations so it makes sense to the horse. Just like Mr Rose taught me :)
Ryan’s got it goin’ on, I enjoyed the 10-day course he taught. He helped my Andalusian and me really get better, strengthening our relationship. Ryan is one of the best I’ve seen, no ego, lots of solutions.
I owned a horse once but was never a confident rider. I find so much enjoyment watching horsemanship videos! Thank you to everyone who takes the time to let us into your wonderful world of horses ❤
I spend 5 years doing ground work with all my horses and don't get on their backs until they are 5 years old. I've never had any issues- so i can tell you- GROUND Work is vital! My stallion- the first time i was ( anybody was) ever on his back- The 2nd day we were out on trail- never an issue. Ground work has kept both me and my horses safe and happy.
I'd really like to see a part 2 of this horse. Your videos really help me to see the holes in my knowledge and I am really glad to be humbled. I hope to be better for the horses I work with so I can better serve them. Thank you❤
This was very helpful. I think this is a common scenario when we buy an older, experienced horse with some holes in the training or an unfortunate experience or two, who is quite reactive sporadically and unpredictably but who seems otherwise steady.
I am shocked at how much Ground Work this Horse NEEDS!! This is Not a jab at you young lady...he's a Beautiful Horse. ...& you are Doing the Right Thing!!... Getting Advice!!! Good luck....
I'd like a part 2. Great reminders of practicing on the ground first, see where the horse is at, etc. Thank you for sharing your wisdom helping horses and their riders :)
Ryan, your communication is fantastic. Every sentence is a building block and I appreciate how you can communicate the same message in various ways when it's not understood the first time. Great teaching .
There's a whole lot of good training and advice start to finish from Ryan in this video and a person can pick up and learn more every time it is watched. Hopefully the owner watches this one over and over - great video and "Mahalo"!! Hope Ryan puts out a "part 2" on this one 🤟!
Buying a roping horse and moving him into side reins and English riding techniques seems a weird fit, plus confusing to the horse, especially when he’s got so many holes in his foundation. Blasting out of a box at speed and doing dressage type moves needs a significant bridge. Ryan’s regroup should be very helpful. Would like to see more.
I’d like to see more of this horse and your process. Calming a sensitive horse is something that makes or breaks a rider’s confidence. It can really get in your head and go south fast if you skip steps. I love this demonstration!
I bought a horse who had some “holes” in his training, had a wonderful trainer work with him, and we had some great rides. A few months later he launched me - literally. It was a month before I could walk straight. We worked more with him and things seemed better. About 4 months after the first launch he did it a second time when I asked for the canter - cracked ribs this time. I ended up calling the vet, he had Lyme disease and kissing spine. Now I have a wonderful horse who has fantastic ground manners but I’ll never be able to ride him.
I think a lot of horses have undiagnosed physical problems. Their are also some horses with mental problems. Some lines of breeding have inherited traits that are hard to deal with.
This is a good horse who simply has been allowed to get away with things. Good for her for expanding her knowledge. If she keeps learning and expects more of him they will be a great team.
I would love to see a continuation series with this horse! Great video! PS: I sure wish you had been around 45 years ago when I was working with horses and riding them everyday!
Yes, please continue with this horse. I'm wondering if pain was ever mentioned re: bucking at canter? I missed it if it was. I'm sure Ryan would have checked that.
Wonderful lesson . . great description by owner and you Ryan so helpful my horse was not started completely and he is so reactive. I am getting acknowledged thru your lesson with this horse always get him to relax before we do more and to do the circles
This was so informative. Thank you for sharing this. It was so cool to see all the nuances and strategies you implement to overcome his issues. I love watching you train and hearing your feedback. The way you read a horse is so spot on and the way you partner with him and gain his trust and set him up for success is 💯 what he needs, but what impresses me the most is how you educate his owner and softened up her abrasiveness and helped her reframe her horse’s behaviors so he can start to trust her as well
Such a beautiful horse, glad you and his owner are giving him the time and effort to improve his future. Definitely hope to see the rest of the process!!
Someone did something to this horse especially in his right side. The owner needs not be so picky about some things maybe then the horse can let his gard down and relax. Thanks Ryan. ❤
Def, vet check. My QH buckskin was exactly like this. He started out fine, but as the years went on started bucking at the start of galloping, spooky,problems with leads. Better after warming up. Genetic tests showed he had PSSM. Put him down finally at 20 yo. All that green grass…? Does he eat it?
Same problem with my registered Paint - spookiness, brace and bucking despite years of restarting groundwork - finally DNA tested positive for PSSM1. Can't apologise enough to my horse.
One of my Appaloosas is undoubtedly one of the sweetest most in your pocket horse around. She's gentle, has great manners, and even adores the vet. In two separate accidents she randomly blew up under saddle. Broke most of my right ribcage and collapsed my right lung the first time. A year later, after a lot of work she broke a lot of the ribs on the left side and gave me a pneumothorax in my left lung. A DNA test showed PSSM1. So she's a beautiful, sweet natured pasture pet.
absolutely fantastic - I learn so much every time I watch you Ryan but this video is full of tips for any level of relationship and communication thank you
Timing is definitely everything. She would tend to back off (release / reward the horse) for being difficult, which led to more & more difficulty. As soon as the timing was corrected, the horse started to understand that release comes with good behavior and was rewarded for that instead. It completely flips the trajectory of the training from downward cycle to forward improvement. Very similar to the dog training I do.
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Thanks Ryan, great video. Would love to see a continuation series with this horse to learn how to deal with similar problems / holes in a horse's training.
I love your lack of macho, using training instead. Really enjoying these videos. I hope there’s a continuation of this one and I can find it.
Would love a continuation series with him for sure!
Enjoyed your video.
I've found, all animals never forget things. Sure, you can re-train problem areas, but they never forget.
I was in 6th grade and was able to spend time with a race horse, who wouldn't let anyone near him. After a couple days, of just talking to him, he trusted me enough to dress a wound on his hind leg and give him a bath. He was very smart. I worked with him, with no lead or ropes. He bent down, when I asked, so I could get on him. He did buck, but I stayed on him. And he never did it again, because I told him if he does, I won't ride him.
One day, boys from my school came to watch. I was brushing him, when the boys did something to severely spook him. I ended up getting kicked, and chased out of his pen. Turned out, the boys picked up a stick and tried petting the horses face with it.
The owner knew from that, that the horse had been whipped by previous owner. I told the owner, to get a whip and cut it up in front of the horse, stomp on it, then let the horse watch you throw it away.
Anyway, it was fun watching your training method. I prefer bareback, with nothing. I talk to the horses and teach them verbal commands, which works for me...:-)
Trust is a big thing with all animals.
Oh, and I worked with him in a small 10x20 area.
Another thing, was flies. I don't like flies or getting swatted with a horses tail, so I put a little lemon fresh dishwashing detergent in a bucket with water and he loved it. I never saw another fly...;-)
I was still wearing a diaper, when an older boy and I climbed onto an unbroken stallion. I told the horse to push me up on him, with his nose. He started to, then bit my butt. I explained it better and tried again. He pushed me up so fast, I almost flew over him, but the boy who was already on him caught me...;-) He lifted the horses tail, and walked up his backside to get on. I didn't want to try that move....;-)
He didn't buck or anything, but he kept swatting us with his tail. That stings alot!
Canter on the right. Sounds like pain
Ryan, you have given this woman a treasure. She can replay this over and over and move forward with the horse. I'd love a part 2 of this boy.
Yes part 2 plesse!!!
Totally Agree, what a treasure to have!! 👏👏👏
I appreciate all the horse owners who allow their videos to be here. You all are amazing people to learn in front of an audience. ❤❤❤
I agree
A plus one; I agree ! Thank you Kathleen and to all of you who allow us to learn along with you! Great video, great work Ryan!
Kathleen, don't listen to the hater who said snarky things about you. Everybody needs to learn. You are obviously seeking the best help you can get. Keep studying and working with Ryan and you will keep improving. However, I must agree as a long time rider/trainer that you should be wearing a helmet and maybe chest protection as well until you have a lot more confidence in this horse. Ryan will help you a lot. But what he can do with the horse, and what you can do will be different. Take it slowly and stay safe.
Me too! It takes a lot of courage. Thank you so much!
Me too! I think Kathleen is a super confident rider and has a lot of empathy and knowledge. Thank you for being the case study so we can all learn!
Someone took a sort of broke horse and started roping! He is a nice horse and deserved much better! Glad the new owner asked Ryan for help! He has a nice future!!
Agree, but she also needs to ditch that flag. I hope all goes well!
Why ditch the flag why do you think that he is over it.
Yes would definitely like to see your whole process with this horse. It appears to me that this is pretty typical of a lot of rodeo/roping horses. They barely get the basics and then it's zero to a hundred every day. So the go with the minimal leg pressure it's not surprising to me, but I've only been training for 45yrs. I have seen so many horses like this in that time.
@@foresthiker6707no! He should not ditch the flag. There’s nothing wrong with working with it even if he seems calm. You need to understand that a horse is a prey animal and herd animal. Like Ryan said “we need to be the herd leader and that means to move their feet and release the pressure when they give us the right answer.” Speak horse language - they can’t speak human.
Yes, I'd love to see more on this horse & see his progress!! ❤
Poor horse looked so concerned when she got on the saddle. Glad horse and owner are learning to understand each other
If you think the horse was concerned imagined, how she feels seeing a trainer put in intensive care. Maybe watch the riders faces As well.
This owner has a heart of gold and wants to do the best for her horse. She is very brave to open herself up to add additional education in front of an audience. There are many horses out there just like him with riders who are stuck in and struggle to achieve the next level in training . He’s going be a nice horse and I’m looking forward to more videos of him.
Yes, a continuation series would be very informative! I enjoyed today's training more than usual because this horse was challenging yet obviously willing to learn.
I don't ride horses. I don't own a horse. But I love these videos; they are so fascinating!
This man is absolutely amazing with horses. I have been into horses for 45 years. And he fixes things that I never thought could be fixed. But he's amazing. He sees the holes in their training and he goes back to groundwork and fixes it. He is really an amazing man. I appreciate that you appreciate him. Especially not being into horses because there are too many Yahoo trainers out there and not enough real trainers. Most trainers be the horse in 2 submission or work them into submission. He doesn't make a working horse. He makes a working partner. He is amazing.
Me too! I love watching these videos! I am actually terrified of horses!
Me too! I have a great live of horses, always been drawn to them but will never have one. Love watching these videos as they educate❤
Ya sure id like to see more. You have a steady n soothing voice so, ya horse is responding to you well. Look forward to your next show.! 😊
Ryan rose is one of the best horse trainers I know of .
And Ryan is open to learning from other trainers he respects.
I agree one hundred and ten percent
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Absolutely continue session.
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Ditto for me. More please!
This is a fantastic video. This really made me think and gave me more tools. I would love to see a continuation. Thank you to the owner for sharing her challenges and letting us viewers learn from it
Ryan don't quit your day job teaching middle age women to be scared of their broke horse isn't much of a job
@mattwilson4016 Why, that didn't sound insecure or jealous at all.🙄
I am going to steal "you need to accommodate him less" when working with my clients
Horses are professional people trainers!
Yes!
@loridorii thank you, yes super important phrase ! I am going to "steal it" to change the entire way I am around my horses 😄
Accommodate him less, but don’t flood him😉
I’m not in the horse business any longer, but had a mare just like this guy. Wish I had these tools in my belt back then. You are one of the greats, Ryan, and so humbly presented that we don’t feel like idiots in the process. Horse training makes us better people, even when we don’t have a horse!
Absolutely!!!
Yes.... I definitely need to see more of this horses education and recovery!!
That was super helpful. In my opinion, the horse has been used to people jumping on and he was supposed to go do whatever immediately and quickly. And when he did, the ride would be over because the cow was roped. So the anticipation of that has him nervous. Ryan wanting him to relax and teaching him how to do that was just lovely. He seems like a great horse. Would love to see him progress.
One of your best videos. Interesting horse situation, smart owner. Would LOVE to see the next day.
Years ago, a friend of mine got LAUNCHED off his horse. He asked me to come check the gelding out, and figure out what happened. I discovered the horse was really under exposed, but very introverted. So he "hid" his true emotional state well enough that everyone thought he was "fine". He was a right brain introvert, and would tend to freeze when bothered. So it was plain to see that he froze, and if bothered too much, he'd explode.
I found he was very willing, very kind, gentle, and wanted to please. He just had a lot of holes in his training and nervousness. I spent several sessions just building a language with him, and getting some patterns and trust. He was a fantastic big horse, but he didn't get worked with consistently. So his training fell apart years later.
He was very much like this roan, in mh opinion. Almost like a flashback. It breaks my heart and simultaneously makes me angry that people will barely start a colt, and just ride them and find ways to force or coerce or avoid triggering the horse, and tiptoe-- just enough to sort of be functional. Then sell the animal and get people hurt or killed.
I am not here to hate on any sport. But ive seen more rodeo horses that have to be ridden with NO LEG contact, and a tight tie down, and a long shank bit just to keep enough control to sort of survive the event and get off.
Always better to put a solid and THOROUGH foundation on a horse, and frequently revisit each element if there's trouble along the way.
Thank you for sharing sharing this perspective 💕 I completely agree.
You couldn’t be more right.
I have been given permission to ride one of the horses at my barn. My barn owner told me “to be careful of I use the snaffle because they are thick.” I have standard loose ring snaffles that I start all of my horses in. The best part - I was told not to do hind end yields because it could screw the horse up!
This mare is exactly the same in my snaffle as she is in her little s hackamore, which is to say heavy. She has zero feel, zero give, and is dull to the bit. She also bucks at the canter.
She hasn’t bucked with me, but I also don’t get on until she’s calm and quiet on the ground. She’s got loads of holes in her training, she can’t stay upright to save her life on a small circle (I think she’s learned to use the tie down as a means of bracing and leaning on it - I refuse to ride with a tie down). She drops her shoulder at the second a circle is introduced, and she throws her head in the air the second any pressure is applied (even in a halter).
I’ve made the decision to never ride her again because the owner has no desire to fix any of this. My barn owner also sees no reason to fix this. I will never understand, but this is the same person that lets a 20 something pony run over them at the idea of going through a tight spot. They also the issue and therefore it’s not an issue.
I just can’t understand any of this thinking, but they are barrel racers and western gaming people.
Horses are so beautiful but they can be so dangerous. My neighbors are very experienced with horses but both of them have injuries. The husband lost an eye from a horse kick and his wife has pins in her leg from an injury during a competition. Ryan is an excellent trainer, he is saving the lives of both the riders and horses.
I've trained dogs for 50+ years and worked some with horses (but have watched TONS of great videos like yours). I love watching the similarities in training techniques and successes between the two animals, even though one is a predator and the other is a prey animal. One thing that some of my students (who trained initially with other trainers) have the most resistance to is going back to basics in order to get the best results. Your suggestion of watching the colt starting program is so appropriate! Love that!!! I find that going back to "retrain" (or go back for basic training that they never got) takes less time and better results that trying to "fix it" by going "forward" from where you are. Love your videos and hope to see more of this horse in the future.
I train both and they can be pretty similar; I've learned things while training horses that I've used on my dogs and vice versa.
I use the same techniques for training people as they have exactly the same triggers and patterns and are often worse than animals, look at animal training... its more people training than it is for the animal!
@@jamie.miller.inspiring When I trained with K9 PD I found this out a lot. We went over the 4 quadrants for behavior modification really well, but then performing them is a totally different story. I wasn't there for K9 training. . . .I was there for handler training and maybe 5% or less was spent on the dog during training time. It was all on me and how I was giving or not giving cues. Was I "marking" at the right times and on the right behaviors? Was I using the correct quadrant for the behavior I wanted to improve or make go away? I had to take video of myself training every week and turn it in and part way through I was critiquing myself like "Oh, I marked at the wrong time", "Oh, I used the wrong quadrant for that, but I commited", "I really didn't ask for an improvement in the time she had to stay in position before I marked that behavior" and I needed to be able to recognize my own faults and learn from them. I had no idea when I signed up (and I train horses too) that 95%+ of the work was going to be training me and not the dog.
@blackdandelion5549 it was truly a pleasure reading that as what you wrote shows how committed to self improvement you are, which has a huge flow on effect in everything you do as well as what you work with :)
Animals and humans at the end of the day are all souls simply in different bodies for different experiences which was something i learnt during my nde. All it takes is to look into an animals eyes and feel, then you feel their soul the way they do ours.
Most issues ive found with human training with animals is they think they are just an animal, which the "animal" senses and acts accordingly.....
Treat them like a soul in a different body and they respond the way Ryan shows in his videos 😍
The biggest advice to anyone reading this is to learn how to regulate your emotions and your nervous system and without anything else you will witness the "animals" responding to you very differently without any training too!
Its always a miscommunication issue, like in this video the horse did not understand due to lack of time spent connecting and showing what each thing like leg pressure etc means, which is why Ryan even said you can make anything mean whatever the lady wants by simply spending time showing him when i do this, i want this in this moment because with the connection in the moment the horse will sense youe intentions with very little feedback.
Everything Ryan does in these videos at their core is essentially the same, helping people build a deeper connection with each horse and owner so that they understand the telepathy connection between one another 💖
Thats why i love horses as they read everything so easily and I love when people say wow ive never witnessed what you just did with my horse before with little effort (because I maintain my emotions and nervous system so I'm predictable for the horse to consistently read) :)
I'm a dog trainer with no horse training (I am allergic 😭) and there are things I've learned from horse trainers, dog trainers, farmers, ranchers, and even bird trainers and rescues
Being open to learning something new is part of being a good trainer. If you insist that the same thing will work in EVERY scenario because it's YOUR way, you care more about your reputation than you do the animal
One thing I learned from a parrot trainer is that the animal has one language, and trainers are used to reading their language, but they can't always communicate back and the average human doesn't know anything. Humans speak human languages (in this case English) and repeating a command in English will never really help an animal understand what it means.
By working together, the animal and the human learn the shared language of "Training". By creating patterns and making the expectation clear, the use of "Training" can be a bridge to the animal learning certain English words (commands) and even adapting to new people, but every human and animal has to be taught "Training" individually
In my job, I spend about 10-20 minutes teaching the thing to the dog, and the next 30-60 trying to get the handlers to be able to replicate what I did to get the results
It really is PEOPLE training
Or I guess being an animal interpreter
Its amazing how ryan gets the halter and lead rope on and the horse just trusts ryan as a leader knows he means business and connects instantly, 💯👏👏👏
Horses go so much off of body language so when a person comes onto the scene that is acting like a leader and not actually posing any threat to them they can read that all in body language. It's also why horses don't like certain people because they notice the smallest details in how people move and carry themselves.
One that rocked my world was when I had an untouched horse that I had just gentled enough to have vet work and an experienced farrier work on her and a 90 yr old woman wanted to see the horses as she rode and was a horsewoman in her day and I agreed. This woman put her canes down as to not scare the horses and just walked right up to that untouched mare that was just gentled and wrapped her arms around that horse and the horse's entire face/head and the horse treated her like a delicate 90 yr old woman who just wanted to love on her. The woman looked at me and said "Can I take her home with me?". She just gave off this aura of love and that she was not a threat at all and the horses let her do whatever she wanted to them. That mare had tried to kick the first farrier she saw and he made nasty comments about her and was incredibly rude to the horse and to me and she was not going to let that man just touch her when she was barely handled. They can read people.
@@blackdandelion5549 TOTALLY AGREE
They seem to just relax because he is relaxed. I am working on being that person.
Yes for continuation. It’s hard to see a horse that was put in a job that scared him so badly. Great learning here.
Awesome Ryan! The biggest takeaway from this video was 'go back to the basics again'. Absolutely BRILLIANT advise! Just my opinion but for whatever reason I believe that too many people underestimate how powerful and beneficial this can be both for the horse and the owner. We all need to understand that going back isn't going backwards.. more often than not it means we're taking massive steps forward! Thankyou for your expertise knowledge and humility. Simply amazing! 👏👏👏❤
Good advise. Always revert back to basics. In any task or goal.
The owner she has my respect for having open mind and willing to learn .
Not all humans are that willing.
Thank you maam.
Yes, please, continued series.
Great work Ryan, you know your business...💯
This is my horse as well. Though she was never a rodeo or roping horse but have some similarities like very unbalanced in the canter and is hard for her. Also, barely touching her with my leg and she wants to take off. It is nice to watch a video that is what I can relate to instead of watching a video of a well trained and broke horse. The reason why we watch these videos is because we need help or need to look for hole a in our training or the training of the horse and address it. Thank you so much for this video and owner for sharing. I would love to see the rest of the training.
Ryan, your friend Laura who met you at RTTH in March! The reason you are above and beyond other trainers is because you are emotionally intelligent, as is the owner in this series. You posess the ability to articulate effectively, and I am learning volumes to make everything i've learned in my decades of horsemanship come together. THANK YOU! Enjoy Hawaii, makes me want to do a watercolor!
First off I’m very envious of that view where those families are! Spectacular! I’m so glad you emphasized the importance of ground work and that there is no set time limit before you should hop on! What a difference in the horses emotions from start of video to the end of session. The owner is going to have an amazing horse after! Great job everyone!
Ryan's training methods are so thoughtful and straightforward. When you learn how horses work and how to speak in a way they understand, it all makes so much sense. When I was young it was all about pushing them through things, not quitting until they do what you want, with no thought whatsoever toward relaxation or emotional fitness. It was about the physical response, their obedience in their bodies. But nothing about how to improve their comfort, their capacity, their willingness. It didn't matter what they were or weren't sweet on.
Applying this way of thinking about things has allowed me to make so much progress with my lease horse and we're building his emotional fitness as well as my own now. He's making efforts to stay checked in with me and to think about what he's being asked, and he's so much happier for it. I hope one day ALL training looks like this.
Would love to see a continuation series! Side reins, so good to hear what you had to say about them. I only use them for specific reasons, lately was just to help a horse with some strength. I don’t put them on and put a horse on endless circles….pet hate. Good to see a horse who gets bothered in the three circle game and what you need to do rather rather than just accommodate them, excellent.
Hands down, the best horse training video I’ve watch in a lot of years! Please continue this as a series Ryan! ❤ SO MUCH GREAT INFORMATION IN THIS! I applauded the owner for reaching out and asking for help! Wish more owners would! NEVER STOP LEARNING!
This is wonderful. I have an ex-broodmare that is displaying a similar behavior. She had not been for about 10 years. I got her too when I purchased her foal. She’s wonderful on the trail and at the walk and trot, but does a little buck when cantering under saddle. She is fine in the round pen cantering under saddle with without a rider. I am slowly trying to get her back into shape. This video has given me all kinds of ideas. Thank you.
So thankful that you where so brave to share with us your difficulties with your horse! Its a copy of my horse, and I already have learned so much from this video! Please do a continuation!
Would love to see more of him! What a big change from the start to when you got off. Thanks to the owner! Great job, Ryan!
It’s so easy to just start clucking approaching and moving the whip at the same time. I do it sometimes. I always remind myself to slow down and separate the escalations so it makes sense to the horse. Just like Mr Rose taught me :)
He didn't seem to get any release or reward for doing the right thing there, there was not a lot of thoughtfulness to it.
Ryan’s got it goin’ on, I enjoyed the 10-day course he taught. He helped my Andalusian and me really get better, strengthening our relationship. Ryan is one of the best I’ve seen, no ego, lots of solutions.
I owned a horse once but was never a confident rider. I find so much enjoyment watching horsemanship videos! Thank you to everyone who takes the time to let us into your wonderful world of horses ❤
I spend 5 years doing ground work with all my horses and don't get on their backs until they are 5 years old.
I've never had any issues- so i can tell you- GROUND Work is vital!
My stallion- the first time i was ( anybody was) ever on his back-
The 2nd day we were out on trail- never an issue. Ground work has kept both me and my horses safe and happy.
Yes continuation series please
Yes Ryan please continue this series I learned a lot of things I’ve never heard before. Thank you. You are amazing. Granny B
Yes, I would love to see a continuation series for this horse. TFS
I'd really like to see a part 2 of this horse. Your videos really help me to see the holes in my knowledge and I am really glad to be humbled. I hope to be better for the horses I work with so I can better serve them. Thank you❤
Yes i want to see how this develops. You are amazing Ryan, and explain things in a clear and concise manner. Love it 🤩
I loved this and would like to see a continuation!
This training time with Ryan is pure gold. What a gift to this horse's owner. This is excellent training with Ryan.
This was very helpful. I think this is a common scenario when we buy an older, experienced horse with some holes in the training or an unfortunate experience or two, who is quite reactive sporadically and unpredictably but who seems otherwise steady.
I would like to see a continuation of this. Creating the buttons is something that can really help me with my horse👍🏼
Yes please!!! Want to keep watching this wonderful boy’s progress
I am shocked at how much Ground Work this Horse NEEDS!! This is Not a jab at you young lady...he's a Beautiful Horse. ...& you are Doing the Right Thing!!... Getting Advice!!! Good luck....
I'd like a part 2. Great reminders of practicing on the ground first, see where the horse is at, etc. Thank you for sharing your wisdom helping horses and their riders :)
Ryan, your communication is fantastic. Every sentence is a building block and I appreciate how you can communicate the same message in various ways when it's not understood the first time. Great teaching .
PLEASE continue with this type of video training
I learned so much
Greatly appreciated!
There's a whole lot of good training and advice start to finish from Ryan in this video and a person can pick up and learn more every time it is watched. Hopefully the owner watches this one over and over - great video and "Mahalo"!! Hope Ryan puts out a "part 2" on this one 🤟!
I would love to see his part 2 :). I am learning alot from you.
Buying a roping horse and moving him into side reins and English riding techniques seems a weird fit, plus confusing to the horse, especially when he’s got so many holes in his foundation. Blasting out of a box at speed and doing dressage type moves needs a significant bridge.
Ryan’s regroup should be very helpful. Would like to see more.
I love all of Ryan’s wisdom
I’d like to see more of this horse and your process. Calming a sensitive horse is something that makes or breaks a rider’s confidence. It can really get in your head and go south fast if you skip steps.
I love this demonstration!
I would LOVE to see the full series of this horse's progress! I love your work. Thank you for sharing it so we can learn a better way.
Great thoughtful trainer! Respect!
I bought a horse who had some “holes” in his training, had a wonderful trainer work with him, and we had some great rides. A few months later he launched me - literally. It was a month before I could walk straight. We worked more with him and things seemed better. About 4 months after the first launch he did it a second time when I asked for the canter - cracked ribs this time. I ended up calling the vet, he had Lyme disease and kissing spine. Now I have a wonderful horse who has fantastic ground manners but I’ll never be able to ride him.
I think a lot of horses have undiagnosed physical problems. Their are also some horses with mental problems. Some lines of breeding have inherited traits that are hard to deal with.
Yes please would love to see a series with this horse and owner! Very helpful - I got a lot out of it thank you.
I think consistency works wonders. It's hard work you have to have it in your heart not just your mind.
love to see more with this horse. think you always have the best advice for horses with people problems.
Definitely would like to see more of your work with this fellow. A good change in some areas just in the time we got to view.
Yes please to more on this horse! I'm learning so much and enjoying the journey!😀
Of all the many vids I've seen on other sites; this one was an absolute paradigm. Thanks Ryan! 👌🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💥
This was a great training lesson and hearing your explanations. Please continue with this for as long as it's possible. Thank you!
Ryan, a continuation series would be great...especially for us in the cheap seats!
Haha - agreed! 😂
Yes for continuation video. So much useful information in here. He's a nice horse with beautiful movement.
Thank you so much for sharing this! I learned a tons and would indeed love to follow this horse as he recovers and stabilizes.
This is a good horse who simply has been allowed to get away with things. Good for her for expanding her knowledge. If she keeps learning and expects more of him they will be a great team.
yes, please, cannot wait to see the progression. lovely to see how you work with the horses....and the people :)
I would love to see a continuation series with this horse! Great video! PS: I sure wish you had been around 45 years ago when I was working with horses and riding them everyday!
Yes, please continue with this horse.
I'm wondering if pain was ever mentioned re: bucking at canter? I missed it if it was. I'm sure Ryan would have checked that.
yes they always check to make sure its not pain
@stephannewenhisen6439 wondering who you are to be answering for Ryan?
@@laurakerley8774 the owner replied to a comment and assured that they already had a vet check and ciropractor out
Wonderful lesson . . great description by owner and you Ryan so helpful my horse was not started completely and he is so reactive. I am getting acknowledged thru your lesson with this horse always get him to relax before we do more and to do the circles
😊I love your interaction with your customers...always asking, does that make sense..❤
Yes please continue!
This was so informative. Thank you for sharing this. It was so cool to see all the nuances and strategies you implement to overcome his issues. I love watching you train and hearing your feedback. The way you read a horse is so spot on and the way you partner with him and gain his trust and set him up for success is 💯 what he needs, but what impresses me the most is how you educate his owner and softened up her abrasiveness and helped her reframe her horse’s behaviors so he can start to trust her as well
Excellent training session. I learned so much today and I think it would be so valuable to watch the next phase.
Such a beautiful horse, glad you and his owner are giving him the time and effort to improve his future. Definitely hope to see the rest of the process!!
I love watching you work. It's magic. ❤
Someone did something to this horse especially in his right side. The owner needs not be so picky about some things maybe then the horse can let his gard down and relax. Thanks Ryan. ❤
Please continue, all the way to the end!
Def, vet check. My QH buckskin was exactly like this. He started out fine, but as the years went on started bucking at the start of galloping, spooky,problems with leads. Better after warming up. Genetic tests showed he had PSSM. Put him down finally at 20 yo. All that green grass…? Does he eat it?
Same problem with my registered Paint - spookiness, brace and bucking despite years of restarting groundwork - finally DNA tested positive for PSSM1. Can't apologise enough to my horse.
One of my Appaloosas is undoubtedly one of the sweetest most in your pocket horse around. She's gentle, has great manners, and even adores the vet.
In two separate accidents she randomly blew up under saddle. Broke most of my right ribcage and collapsed my right lung the first time. A year later, after a lot of work she broke a lot of the ribs on the left side and gave me a pneumothorax in my left lung.
A DNA test showed PSSM1. So she's a beautiful, sweet natured pasture pet.
This is a phenomenal video showing the holes in a horses training. I'd love to see an update of this one.
Great vlog. I love that amazing tree in the background. Yes would love to see more.
Great video. Thanks ❤ yes please continue this journey with him.
Yes please to part 2! You’re a wealth of knowledge and information.
That was brilliant and very well explained..loved it❤
What a great video! Was a pleasure to watch
Ryan, yes please continue posting on this horse!
absolutely fantastic - I learn so much every time I watch you Ryan but this video is full of tips for any level of relationship and communication
thank you
Such interesting work. I love the conversation between rider and horse.
Yes please, keep us updated on his progress 😊
Phenomenal video and training from Ryan as per usual ❤
Thank you 😊
Very much want more from these sessions! Thanks!
yes please continuation series. But I guess many before me have asked you alreaddy ; ) Thanks so much for making your videos!
yes! Please continue this series !
Yes please I would like to see continuation series. Great video, loved the big tree by the arena, so beautiful
Timing is definitely everything. She would tend to back off (release / reward the horse) for being difficult, which led to more & more difficulty.
As soon as the timing was corrected, the horse started to understand that release comes with good behavior and was rewarded for that instead. It completely flips the trajectory of the training from downward cycle to forward improvement.
Very similar to the dog training I do.