while that Pinarello Dogma is absolutely awesome please please please do a bike check on that new rockrider which "only" took 2nd place on the main race, behind the 3-4 times more expensive pinarello 😃
This Rockrider is astonishing, i'm waiting it so much it is the best bike for me. 29in, 120mm it should be able to be on top3 on a WC compared to all 100mm bikes
What an awesome weekend of racing...Tom Pidcock, what a beast for taking both races.Even starting the short track in last place and crashing in the Full XC! I love the CONTENT!! Great job Ritch!
@@mtbzen I guess you don’t ride very much if you can’t see the benefits. It’s a pain in the arse when you’re already stood up and then you realise you need your seat out the way and you have to squat to put it down, which changes you weigh distribution and body position etc.
Bmc /Ohlin with the carbon crown 34 fork, and the rear shock facing that way for not bending the shock shaft?Cool. The Jumbo bikes rigid link, they should offer that if they can. Both Excitingly practical, love the stuff that pops up in xc, great vid
This Rockrider is astonishing, i'm waiting it so much it is the best bike for me. 29in, 120mm it should be able to be on top3 on a WC compared to all 100mm bikes
When will one of the big tool brands come out with a bicycle specific electronic drive tool? I would love a Milwaukee M12 driver with selectable torque settings from 3 to 25 Nm with overdrive reverse. I use the m12 screwdriver for my job (industrial electrician) and my tennis elbow is gone and I turn fasteners faster. $250 to $300 for a tool only, reasonably torque accurate drive tool would be a hot buy.
Love xc content. Any chance a feature on how almost all of XC full sus bikes have pretty much the same suspension design? Main pivot near bottom-bracket, flexy seat-stays, small upper linkage and a shock attached to the top-tube (Cannondale, Santa Cruz, Wilier, Specialized, Orbea, Rockrider, Canyon, BH, Cervelo, Caloi, Pinarello etc). Most effective way of making a light, functional full suspension or everyone copying?
Good question. The point in general is that basically every company praises their own system as the most advanced one. Since the beginning of the first FS bikes about 30 years ago. It might have boiled down to the system you mentioned. If you still have your doubts (like me also) …get a hardtail 😉. Great fun ride …and simplicity ALWAYS wins in the long run (not to mention zero maintenance issues). 💪🏼
Helium molecules are tiny, it is extremely hard to contain it. The gas just leaks out every tiniest hole, a few atoms small hole is enough for it to start escaping. Properly sealing the frame for He would add a lot of weight.
I’m surprised none of those toolboxes had bearing presses in them. Seems like you’d want that a long time before a other things like a rotor truing tool for example.
Where is SRAM with flight control for SID?!?! SR - new joiner to the electronically controlled suspension is leading the group? I hope at least one anthem with fox was there.
Haha I have cottage like 12km from this location :) I ride time to time here as well, but I prefer new red line with jumps rather than XC tracks. However I can say I am probably as fast as competitors....on my ebike :D The uphill sessions are nasty :)
The switch to electronically controlled suspension is helping clean things up, but for now while lockouts are used so much in XC racing all those cables are here to stay.
Companies make more money on the low end stuff that comes stock on so many bikes in the $500-$2000 range. Kinda like how mcdonalds makes more $ selling mocrowaved cheeseburgers than any other company who actually cooks good burgers.
Contrary to others suntour offers forks like the XCR series ( coilspring and air versions) which includes remote lock out for a price tag a lot of people can afford. Not everyone can afford a bike for 5000 €/$ with a fork more expensive than a decent beginner XC hardtail, where an annual service is more expensive than the XCR itself. Of course for a car driver living in the expensive Rolls Royce bubble a mid sized car which is affordable for the majority is also crappy.
The UCI rules stipulate the same bike must be ridden during the XCC race and the XCO race, although you're allowed to replace or change components on the bike itself. Some riders see a hardtail as a better option for XCC, while a full suspension bike is preferred for XCO. By doing this, they've changed the bike into a hardtail for the XCC race, and can then install a shock for the XCO race and have it as a full suspension bike again. It's making use of a loophole his team found in the UCI rulebook!
I work in the micro electronic sector. We push to add electronic devices everywhere as it makes money. I realize the environmental cost and damage of such policy and become more and more annoy with it. And today I see that we are now adding electronic suspension on MTB... quite sad. Wherever you add electronic, it increases drastically the maintenance cost (because you cant do that much yourself), the environmental footprint of the product (because there is always a battery that will be dumped every X year) and reduces the lifespan of the item. Except for very particular application where electronic is extremely advantageous, she should avoid using it extensively considering its cost. But i dont think the MTB world care that much. Actually, thet are pursuing the path of road cycling and we now have a climate criminal as INEOS as sponsor for top riders.
This high end stuff is expensive. It's ridden by professionals, but the average rider don't use electronic suspension or a electronic shifting, simply because it's that expensive.
its not air suspension. You actually let saom of the air out each time it takes the seatpost down. You can us it without air as a normal (weight of the driver down / spring up) dropper seatpost.
Who do you think had the coolest XC bike on the start grid? Let us know below 👇
Ofcourse, it's amazing to watch
rockrider 940s with the manitou suspension
@@sselhdefinitely. Looking forward to that one hitting the Decathlon shop floor
I'm biased because I want a Scott Spark but the new Epic looks really good
Carod's XC bike seemed really interesting. The dropper post, the suspension, and overall just how it looked.
Please keep the XC content coming! Love it!
There's plenty more to come as we go through the season!
Keep the XC content coming, good stuff.
Really happy to see the XC content ……this weekend was excellent and can’t wait for the next race
while that Pinarello Dogma is absolutely awesome please please please do a bike check on that new rockrider which "only" took 2nd place on the main race, behind the 3-4 times more expensive pinarello 😃
Rockrider is value for money indeed
This Rockrider is astonishing, i'm waiting it so much it is the best bike for me. 29in, 120mm it should be able to be on top3 on a WC compared to all 100mm bikes
What an awesome weekend of racing...Tom Pidcock, what a beast for taking both races.Even starting the short track in last place and crashing in the Full XC! I love the CONTENT!! Great job Ritch!
Please keep up the XC content ❤
We need more xc content😊
XC Xc XC We love it!!
Good job!
It's hard not to love it with the racing we saw last weekend!
@@gmbntech Definitely yes, the top is very even and the pidcock is extremely strong =D
That BMC auto drop is so nice
A dropper that goes down on its own would be awesome on the trails.
@@mtbzen I guess you don’t ride very much if you can’t see the benefits. It’s a pain in the arse when you’re already stood up and then you realise you need your seat out the way and you have to squat to put it down, which changes you weigh distribution and body position etc.
No
Keep up the great work!! Keep stuff like this coming
That toolbox is the stuff of dreams
Definite toolbox goals right there! 🤩
If I were to buy one then for once I wouldn't be turning my garage inside-out just to find the correct Alen key 😂
Pierre from Suntour really knows how to get us stoked…
Tank U guys please keep on making this videos of XC. We live It!!!
Great Video
Looks like lots of riders running 2.4 now?
That would be good looking for some for my hardtail. Doing mostly xc rides at the moment
Love The XC more please love the jumbo vista full suspension that has a linkage instead of a shock.
Bmc /Ohlin with the carbon crown 34 fork, and the rear shock facing that way for not bending the shock shaft?Cool. The Jumbo bikes rigid link, they should offer that if they can. Both Excitingly practical, love the stuff that pops up in xc, great vid
Good to see Pidcock racing mountain bikes again.
Awesome! Yes to more xc tech content! 👏
when i first saw tom on the dogma i did a double take... what a nice bike
This bike has nothing special
This Rockrider is astonishing, i'm waiting it so much it is the best bike for me. 29in, 120mm it should be able to be on top3 on a WC compared to all 100mm bikes
When will one of the big tool brands come out with a bicycle specific electronic drive tool? I would love a Milwaukee M12 driver with selectable torque settings from 3 to 25 Nm with overdrive reverse. I use the m12 screwdriver for my job (industrial electrician) and my tennis elbow is gone and I turn fasteners faster. $250 to $300 for a tool only, reasonably torque accurate drive tool would be a hot buy.
Thé electronic suntour sus in the Pinarello!
Ha ha ha ... The suspension test bike is the brand new Dogma XC. Unmistakable
All those levers and cables on the handlebars 😳
Love xc content. Any chance a feature on how almost all of XC full sus bikes have pretty much the same suspension design? Main pivot near bottom-bracket, flexy seat-stays, small upper linkage and a shock attached to the top-tube (Cannondale, Santa Cruz, Wilier, Specialized, Orbea, Rockrider, Canyon, BH, Cervelo, Caloi, Pinarello etc). Most effective way of making a light, functional full suspension or everyone copying?
Good question. The point in general is that basically every company praises their own system as the most advanced one. Since the beginning of the first FS bikes about 30 years ago. It might have boiled down to the system you mentioned. If you still have your doubts (like me also) …get a hardtail 😉. Great fun ride …and simplicity ALWAYS wins in the long run (not to mention zero maintenance issues). 💪🏼
Those tool boxes tho🤩
We were definitely jealous of those setups...
That speed on the dropper and up force at 14bar - you need to keep the boys out the way on the raising of the saddle 😆
Only goes down by pressure, goes up by spring.
Air pressure is only to pull seatpost down. To push up it's a coil spring so with force curve always identical at each cycle.
Suntour!! and Available!!
Yer Nar
The two shall never meet
4:34 They should put Helium instead of air into the frame, so they can make the bike lighter. Maybe, it starts to fly by itself.😆
Helium molecules are tiny, it is extremely hard to contain it. The gas just leaks out every tiniest hole, a few atoms small hole is enough for it to start escaping. Properly sealing the frame for He would add a lot of weight.
XC is the new downhill 💪 downhill is still sick though. Dont hate me 😅
Loved it, I clicked three times on the thumb😂
Thanks Pierre! We're glad you enjoyed it 🙌
everything is cool there but if something is pink it's extra cool 🤪
Purple parts rock …since the early 90s 💪🏼
Does any manufacturer/brand/shop offer a mechanics toolbox like those?!?
Wow that's an insane amount of pressure.
14 bar being 3.5bar less then a reverb is pressurised to normally. 😅😅
Awesome content
Thanks! We appreciate it 🙂
we need more videos like this one
Thanks! We're hoping to film more as the race season develops!
now that's an exciting video
I’m surprised none of those toolboxes had bearing presses in them. Seems like you’d want that a long time before a other things like a rotor truing tool for example.
Great !!
Where is Doddy has he quit ?
electronic suspension- because electricity is fun I guess?
Epik video
Where is Doddy?
Is that Dogma UDH compatible?
Where is SRAM with flight control for SID?!?! SR - new joiner to the electronically controlled suspension is leading the group? I hope at least one anthem with fox was there.
XC bikes always seem to have the most unique stuff, DH and enduro its all a bit similar
The real question though: how did you convince your Mum to loan you her sunnies? 😎🤔
Suntour on a Pinarello ....
Haha I have cottage like 12km from this location :) I ride time to time here as well, but I prefer new red line with jumps rather than XC tracks. However I can say I am probably as fast as competitors....on my ebike :D The uphill sessions are nasty :)
Love XC bikes, except for the fork/shock lockouts . Cable mess.
The switch to electronically controlled suspension is helping clean things up, but for now while lockouts are used so much in XC racing all those cables are here to stay.
It is so good to lock all suspension and accelerate
Is Doddy retiring? 😢
Is Suntour a synonymous of crappy suspension at your country as well is on mine?
Yes and no. They have lots of low end suspension here in the USA but they also have some very nice stuff as well. Most people don't know that though.
Companies make more money on the low end stuff that comes stock on so many bikes in the $500-$2000 range.
Kinda like how mcdonalds makes more $ selling mocrowaved cheeseburgers than any other company who actually cooks good burgers.
Contrary to others suntour offers forks like the XCR series ( coilspring and air versions) which includes remote lock out for a price tag a lot of people can afford. Not everyone can afford a bike for 5000 €/$ with a fork more expensive than a decent beginner XC hardtail, where an annual service is more expensive than the XCR itself.
Of course for a car driver living in the expensive Rolls Royce bubble a mid sized car which is affordable for the majority is also crappy.
Chaoyang Phantom Tyres already exist
6:38 I'm confused. Why not ride a normal hardtail?
The UCI rules stipulate the same bike must be ridden during the XCC race and the XCO race, although you're allowed to replace or change components on the bike itself. Some riders see a hardtail as a better option for XCC, while a full suspension bike is preferred for XCO. By doing this, they've changed the bike into a hardtail for the XCC race, and can then install a shock for the XCO race and have it as a full suspension bike again. It's making use of a loophole his team found in the UCI rulebook!
what about the new rockshox SID!!!!
Full suspension road bikes
how come specialized didn't participate this round?
I work in the micro electronic sector. We push to add electronic devices everywhere as it makes money.
I realize the environmental cost and damage of such policy and become more and more annoy with it.
And today I see that we are now adding electronic suspension on MTB... quite sad.
Wherever you add electronic, it increases drastically the maintenance cost (because you cant do that much yourself), the environmental footprint of the product (because there is always a battery that will be dumped every X year) and reduces the lifespan of the item.
Except for very particular application where electronic is extremely advantageous, she should avoid using it extensively considering its cost.
But i dont think the MTB world care that much. Actually, thet are pursuing the path of road cycling and we now have a climate criminal as INEOS as sponsor for top riders.
This high end stuff is expensive. It's ridden by professionals, but the average rider don't use electronic suspension or a electronic shifting, simply because it's that expensive.
My bro regretted selling his XC after he went on the Enduro hype😢
Where's Doddy?
5:43 only 100 uses before an air recharge? that's like 2 whole days of riding. I think it needs some work.
its not air suspension. You actually let saom of the air out each time it takes the seatpost down. You can us it without air as a normal (weight of the driver down / spring up) dropper seatpost.
I’m 16 years old and I dream about good xc bike, but I don’t have money for it 😢
I can do the bike testing u won’t see the bike again but I can test then
It has its own Brain system… Specialized guys will catch the reference
Imagine if those tool boxes get lost by the airlines.
Absolutely not, why would I want to imagine something so terrible? Those boxes are beautiful.
Selbstüberschätzung ist Teuer ❤
6:30 lol, lmao
1st time in years I never watched the race as it aint on RedBullTV nomore, The footage on youtube was terrible....Gutted..Ha!