'Men Throw Darts BETTER Than Women!' | Sports Psychologist Reacts To Trans Darts Player Win

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  • Опубліковано 24 бер 2024
  • A trans darts player has won the women-only contest just days after claiming a title while playing against men.
    Noa-Lynn van Leuven, 27, triumphed on Saturday in the PDC Women’s Series, eight days after beating male rivals in a mixed event, where she won the £2,500 pot.
    It has led to a furious backlash by those in the sport, with two of her female Dutch compatriots (world number two Aileen de Graaf and world number 12 Anca Zijlstra) quitting the national team in protest against van Leuven.
    In an exclusive interview with TalkTV, former professional darts player and professor of sports psychology Dr Linda Duffy discusses her doctoral thesis that looked into why males were traditionally better than females.
    Her study found that 'gender was the biggest predictor of darts performance' and that 'males outperform females at all levels' across the sport.
    #trans #darts #gender #psychology
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 102

  • @kevin982
    @kevin982 2 місяці тому +36

    In all walks it's cheating for men to play in women's competitions.

    • @Perica30
      @Perica30 2 місяці тому +1

      An feeling is not an fact.

  • @emperorsnewclothes9405
    @emperorsnewclothes9405 2 місяці тому +15

    treble narcissism, single ability, double reality denial, what a finish!!!!

    • @WeeFreddy
      @WeeFreddy 2 місяці тому +1

      You my friend made me laugh aloud,Thank you 😂😂.

  • @mattn5446
    @mattn5446 2 місяці тому +36

    Swimming tried to have a trans only catogry and nobody entered.....wonder why? Maybe its easier to beat the girls while sharing their locker room..win win 😅

    • @JT55AU
      @JT55AU 2 місяці тому

      Because it doesn’t affirm them.

    • @leae3750
      @leae3750 Місяць тому

      @@JT55AUIf doesn’t affirm women to have them in their locker rooms and to swim against them

  • @KingDomsKingdom85
    @KingDomsKingdom85 2 місяці тому +28

    Its important to have women admitting this publicly, as thats the way you stop this ridiculous gender war.

    • @herschelsquirts2338
      @herschelsquirts2338 2 місяці тому +1

      You’re exactly right!

    • @givmi_more_w9251
      @givmi_more_w9251 2 місяці тому +1

      I have no problem in admitting that I as a woman will never be as athletically capable as even a mediocre male athlete.
      Women's bodies evolved to be able to accomodate pregnancies with babies with problematic head sizes. That alone puts us at a speed disadvantage (looser tendons ligaments, more awkward leg angle). And then our psychology is wired to care for incredibly helpless, immature offspring.

    • @susandrakenviller3683
      @susandrakenviller3683 Місяць тому +2

      Please tell the overall record holder for throwing basketballs in a hoop within a retricted time that SHE is not supposed to be able to do that.

  • @craighart9278
    @craighart9278 2 місяці тому +5

    Competitors need to stand up and speak out in numbers. This needs to end NOW! It should never have been allowed to get this far. We (the vast majority) are behind you and will support you. Do the right thing for the sportswomen of today and tomorrow and refuse to accommodate men in your sport.

  • @john_mckinney
    @john_mckinney 2 місяці тому +3

    But why would men be better at aiming arrows than women?

    • @leae3750
      @leae3750 Місяць тому +1

      Did you not pay attention

    • @john_mckinney
      @john_mckinney Місяць тому +2

      @@leae3750 explain

    • @TheGreatest585
      @TheGreatest585 Місяць тому +2

      Yeah the only objective reasoning she gave was technique and how it affects the quality of the throw. Everything else she said was subjective factors that she related back to her thesis statement but never actually elaborated on due to the lack of information.

  • @ErikWw
    @ErikWw 2 місяці тому +7

    I thought women could do everything that men can do but better.

    • @leae3750
      @leae3750 Місяць тому

      Not in this case

  • @kevinmoore3820
    @kevinmoore3820 Місяць тому +1

    I love all of this message except for the one argument where she says that some communities don't allow women to compete with men so we have to be mindful of that. No we don't - those societies can join us in the 21st century whenever they're ready.
    In a recent example that I greatly admire, the women's world champion chess player chose not to travel to Saudi Arabia for the world championships. Good for her!

    • @sumiahaltalhi4767
      @sumiahaltalhi4767 Місяць тому

      They don't allow men to compete with men too. Also all humans on plant earth are living in 21st st century! and they don't have to join a civilization that is confused about what a women is 🤷‍♀️

  • @bengleiss9416
    @bengleiss9416 Місяць тому +2

    So to confirm. There is no significant physical advantage., it's all down to technique and mindset.

    • @Boyzee355
      @Boyzee355 Місяць тому +2

      Nope

    • @laurykristensen6239
      @laurykristensen6239 Місяць тому +2

      My mindset would be anger at playing a dude in a women's league. That would effect my focus, I would be more likely to lose. Men being more alpha have a psychological edge as well

    • @BenBurrow
      @BenBurrow 15 днів тому

      I feel men do have a slight physical advantage. Only in that the average height of a male is several inches more than a female. So they have to throw that much harder to keep the darts high. Especially double top. I’ve played against several ladies teams and their darts travel in such an arc they drop low. I’m surprised more of them don’t play on the 19s.

  • @samanthapatrick4345
    @samanthapatrick4345 2 місяці тому +2

    There are other sports yes but when trans women win one of those sports there's an uproar over the win, no matter what happens no matter what a trans woman wins there's always going to uproar over nothing about the win

    • @user-fh6uq6wt7p
      @user-fh6uq6wt7p 2 місяці тому +2

      ...because of the advantage. Nothing wrong with having a trans category or play in ones biological sex.

    • @wuddih
      @wuddih 2 місяці тому

      @@user-fh6uq6wt7p tell me the advantage a trans has in darts?

    • @laurykristensen6239
      @laurykristensen6239 Місяць тому

      ​@@wuddihIntimidation factor based on size alone. Psychological advantages, different body structure (men do throw differently, etc)

  • @kevingould2683
    @kevingould2683 2 місяці тому +2

    If REAL women around the world pull out of all women's competitions involving failures, I'm pretty sure the world sport body will ban FAILURES after no REAL women take part.

  • @BoJangles3105
    @BoJangles3105 Місяць тому +1

    Deta is correct.

  • @alpersubasi2529
    @alpersubasi2529 2 місяці тому +5

    testosterone level can be determined and measured if no big cost

    • @Lukey111
      @Lukey111 2 місяці тому +9

      Even if he had an equivalent testosterone that wouldn't subdue his, bone density, hand size, vision, spacial awareness, co ordination, reaction time and muscle mass

    • @user-fh6uq6wt7p
      @user-fh6uq6wt7p 2 місяці тому +4

      Shouldn't be there...Not a woman!

    • @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361
      @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361 2 місяці тому +1

      someone should measure Bo Greaves testosterone levels . .-off the scale ..

    • @givmi_more_w9251
      @givmi_more_w9251 2 місяці тому

      @@Lukey111 Yep, and an unhealthy, weakened man does not equal a woman.

  • @PeterPearson-xq3cw
    @PeterPearson-xq3cw 9 днів тому

    What about the fact that a transgender woman has a bigger testosterone allowance (which is wrong) and a true woman enters comps and during some comps might have bad periods affecting their playing!!!!

  • @Perica30
    @Perica30 2 місяці тому +2

    What your thinking is not an scientifically based fact.

    • @danielpooleoriginal
      @danielpooleoriginal 2 місяці тому

      No, but it's a statistical probability beyond any reasonable doubt.

    • @TheGreatest585
      @TheGreatest585 Місяць тому +3

      @@danielpooleoriginal the only objective factor she gave was technique, which makes sense. So it’s not biology it’s technique.

    • @danielpooleoriginal
      @danielpooleoriginal Місяць тому +1

      @TheGreatest585 I'm the only full-time professional darts coach on earth. The technique is different due to size and coordination. If you look at a female that has a throw like a man as she puts it, Beau is over 6 feet tall with wide shoulders. The technique is different due to biology.

    • @TheGreatest585
      @TheGreatest585 Місяць тому +1

      @@danielpooleoriginal being 6ft tall with broad shoulders does not equate to being a man. That’s a physique. Female basketball players are 6ft+ with broad shoulders. Again, the only objective thing she said was form and technique. And the point is not to throw like a man, it’s to hit the bullseye. That’s why her points beyond the form and technique never landed. Even when you shoot a basketball in a hoop, the point is not to shoot like a man, the point is to use proper form and technique in order for the ball to make it into the basket. But if the size difference makes a difference then it’s not the probability of gender because it’s not a contact sport. It would make more sense for everyone to compete against people who are similar size and weight. That would then bring up the argument of, is it fair for smaller individuals to compete against larger individuals even if they are the same gender? Would that also be considered unfair? And if that’s the case then I would assume that there are a lot of people who lost and will continue to loose due to unfair competition on both ends.

    • @danielpooleoriginal
      @danielpooleoriginal Місяць тому

      @TheGreatest585 The number of men that meet this description or close is vastly higher than women. You also failed to knowledge the aspect of coordination I mentioned as backed up by Dr Duffys finding that men are better from a young age at throwing with precision.
      You listen to facts and opinions that support your political agenda only. That's a dangerous game, one used by very dangerous people historically. Open your eyes.

  • @freddyt55555
    @freddyt55555 2 місяці тому +4

    There's rarely ever a need for an "open" sports category. In most sports, the "open" category is the category that men typically compete in, but they are not closed to women or transgender persons. The US Open golf tournament is open to any gender, but the US Womens Open golf tournament is open only to women.

  • @mattn5446
    @mattn5446 2 місяці тому +4

    And barry hearne agrees with this? Thought he was old school

  • @GarryCarr56
    @GarryCarr56 23 дні тому

    So why do women want to throw in mens tournaments? Shorrocks for instance

  • @jasonfearnley1744
    @jasonfearnley1744 Місяць тому

    In uk a woman plays in mens darts

  • @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361
    @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361 2 місяці тому +4

    Marie O' Brien anybody . .. ???!

  • @stevemarshall4822
    @stevemarshall4822 2 місяці тому +7

    It needed a new academic study to 'reveal' this?

  • @imbonkers3629
    @imbonkers3629 2 місяці тому +10

    Not covering the big farmers protest on your doorstep talk tv 📺 hundreds of tractors arriving in London right now 😊myhar toussi channel 😊

    • @francescostello1377
      @francescostello1377 2 місяці тому +1

      Indeed, what do you expect from legacy bought and paid for media, their news coverage is crap

  • @islalewis70
    @islalewis70 2 місяці тому +6

    So wrong on so many levels!

    • @truthfortots3288
      @truthfortots3288 2 місяці тому +1

      "Gender Was Biggest Predictor Of Performance" | Sports Psychologist Reacts To Cheater Darts Player Win
      A male darts player has won the women-only contest just days after claiming a title while playing against men.
      Noa-Lynn van Leuven, 27, triumphed on Saturday in the PDC Women’s Series, eight days after beating male rivals in a mixed event, where he won the £2,500 pot.
      It has led to a furious backlash by those in the sport, with two of his female Dutch compatriots (world number two Aileen de Graaf and world number 12 Anca Zijlstra) quitting the national team in protest against van Leuven.

  • @ironknobsteelworks4063
    @ironknobsteelworks4063 2 місяці тому +6

    Basically said there are massive advantages but refused to rule out trans women playing against women. Bottled it.

    • @jujutrini8412
      @jujutrini8412 2 місяці тому +9

      She said males and females should be in separate categories.

  • @eddiehennessy2627
    @eddiehennessy2627 29 днів тому

    Stats I think a lot to do with it ? more men play more men get better

  • @kevin982
    @kevin982 2 місяці тому +7

    They are in the darts now! Good lord what is happening.

  • @brunumb4914
    @brunumb4914 2 місяці тому +4

    🙋‍♂ Thank you Dr Duffy. 👍 Sadly, you can't see any differences when your head is firmly planted in the sand.

  • @dontwastetimetoday493
    @dontwastetimetoday493 2 місяці тому +3

    Noa will most likely now go on to dominate women's darts

    • @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361
      @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361 2 місяці тому

      Big Boa is in the way ..thats a Big unit of a Lad.

    • @Perica30
      @Perica30 2 місяці тому

      Why ? There are no significant facts for dart sports that transwomen have any scientifically proven advantages.

  • @nomnomzmcfluffyness492
    @nomnomzmcfluffyness492 2 місяці тому +1

    sounds like the whomans should have gatekept their sports better it seems

    • @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361
      @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361 2 місяці тому

      Marie O Brien , Deta Hed Man and Lisa Ashton ...to name but 3 . . . .

    • @user-fh6uq6wt7p
      @user-fh6uq6wt7p 2 місяці тому

      Its the few Dem billionaires with a fetish pushing all this from funding the government to change wording and laws to funding the promoting in colleges and schools and all in between. Crazy a few billionaires with a fetish control society.... Well should say, control the left!

  • @RJFP67
    @RJFP67 2 місяці тому

    Biology matters not feelings 😂.

  • @eleanorh343
    @eleanorh343 2 місяці тому

    🎉👏

  • @greggeorge792
    @greggeorge792 2 місяці тому +1

    Go get it 👏🏽💪🏾🎯

  • @timholland2282
    @timholland2282 2 місяці тому +5

    I'm transgender and when I first heard that female dart athletes stepped down because of a transgender female I thought it was bigotry. But really, science is science. I couldn't imagine why a male would be better at throwing a dart than a female, but here we are: it's been proven. Sports should be fair and ofcourse I feel every human should be allowed to compete. But what are the categories gonna be in the future? I don't know. They managed to do this for the paralympics, which I would have thought to be practically impossible. So I guess we'll see! Science.

    • @jamiemccutcheon8302
      @jamiemccutcheon8302 Місяць тому

      Categories should be male and female biological. Paralympics then GLBT+ or whatever you call it. I'd love to see a trans man step in and complete with male boxers because that would be fair wouldn't it!!!!!?

  • @dazuk1969
    @dazuk1969 2 місяці тому +2

    This is a very interesting conversation and one very relevant right now. Should we allow transgender people to compete in a sport that was not their birth gender ?. If someone goes past puberty male or female, that is the category they should compete in regardless of future gender decisions. Noah should be competing in male darts...just before anyone jumps on my back, would you be happy letting a transgender female boxer get in the ring and fight the heavyweight champion of the world Tyson Fury ?...think about it.

    • @dazuk1969
      @dazuk1969 2 місяці тому +1

      @@janklaas7522It might be prudent to listen to this again. This is from Professor Linda Duffy, she is a sports phycologist who conducted a study and wrote a thesis on male and female target throwing. She came to the conclusion there is a clear male gender advantage playing darts. I haven't read her thesis personally, but given her credentials I will take her word for it. I do agree that gender does not affect all sports the same way, but I think gender affects all sports in one way or another.

    • @user-fh6uq6wt7p
      @user-fh6uq6wt7p 2 місяці тому

      Its the idea of a few democratic billionaires with a fetish that have controlled and pushed and funded the entire idea. Funding to change the laws, change of wording such as se x to gender etc, funding all the groups, activists, and strategically creating and funding a system to promote through colleges and schools.
      Crazy that something that is very rare is suddenly popular and has now has enough teens recruited to explode into a multi billion dollar business.

    • @izoedyourbabydaddy7628
      @izoedyourbabydaddy7628 2 місяці тому +2

      There was a transwoman who was stealthing as a ciswoman on a volleyball team. Even though she didn't go through a male puberty people still felt she had an unfair advantage. Truth is it's about winning people don't like trans people winning.

    • @leae3750
      @leae3750 Місяць тому +1

      No.

  • @mar9819
    @mar9819 Місяць тому

    More easy championships between trans

  • @CripleMusic
    @CripleMusic 2 місяці тому +2

    Mother nature made it that way 😂

  • @markmitchell7981
    @markmitchell7981 2 місяці тому +3

    Rubbish.

  • @TonyToning-ne7uq
    @TonyToning-ne7uq 2 місяці тому

    FACTS and thats at all things including the bedroom..

  • @djrudog1158
    @djrudog1158 6 днів тому

    More far right crap

  • @Topdays2009
    @Topdays2009 2 місяці тому

    women's darts is a waste of sponsorship money it's not worth watching. if they cannot reach the heights of the professional status then lets just leave them out of the game leave them in the pubs

  • @BoJangles3105
    @BoJangles3105 Місяць тому

    I remember Linda Batten very well and she was a good player. Much better than Maureen Flowers and Loveday King. She threw differently due to a diverse mindset although she didn't know her thinking was contrary!
    How could she possibly know.
    It happens with all the top exponents in all walks of life, but especially in any sporting activity.
    It's due entirely on a lie gradually infused into our minds over the decades and centuries.
    It's usually dubliminal, however the most successful infusion is produced by a seemingly acceptable lie!
    But there are the minority who use good old common sense and refuse to be entrapped, they are malignantly called the Right or far right.

  • @niall3973
    @niall3973 2 місяці тому

    Darts doesnt bother me so much. Beau Greaves could be in the top 32 if she went to q school.

    • @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361
      @alanhargreaves-thevoiceofr2361 2 місяці тому

      if He went to Q school ...- we know what Q stands for as well . . . . !!!!

    • @markdunlop1349
      @markdunlop1349 2 місяці тому +1

      Her average for the year is about 85.
      Not very good for a top 32 player

  • @izoedyourbabydaddy7628
    @izoedyourbabydaddy7628 2 місяці тому +1

    Hats off to her because she actually acknowledged that transwoman and cismen are different.