BMW S1000R HONEST Review
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2024
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BMW S 1000 R - an absolute beast and an awesome motorcycle refreshed for 2021+. I'm going over what it feel like to ride it now and one thing that went wrong again. BMW, fix this and you'll have a perfect naked bike! With slightly Japanese-like look and rubbish mirrors, but that's not what the R is about. My Instagram page: / thevtold
The 2021 S 1000 R shown in the video belongs to BMW Liberty Motors dealership in Piaseczno (Warsaw), Poland and there you can test ride it: libertymotors.pl/
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I think it’s a fantastic bit of kit. It sounds fucking insane with a full system too.
My 2018 S1000R weight 197kg after changing to Akra Ti Full System, replacing seat cowl and mirrors. 195kg is possible with forged wheel. I have a love hate relationship with the front face but the new one looks generic, while the old, authentic.
Got a 2015 in Black and had it from new - awesome bike. Just put some handlebar risers on it which make it a bit comfier. Also a decent touring screen and a rad guard and it's a great tourer. Have a standard exhaust and the pop and burble makes me smile every time I ride it. Brilliant bike.
I think that handlebar risers could help to even further counter what BMW have done here with this newest generation. I felt fine on the 1st gen, so I guess what you suggest would make a lot of sense especially on this newest one.
This bike has always gotten mixed reviews. It's too predictable, it's unpredictable, unstable, clinical, no character, wicked fast.. I think it's probably more suited for street riding than most bikes. Brilliant BMW -Thank you 🙏
Good one, this led me to thinking that perhaps it's all about expectations towards it.
This bike is one of the most predictable and stable bikes I’ve ever ridden . It has flat (ish) low end torque but everything else is superb .
I’ve brought the new s1000r and love it
A great all round awesome bike for street, twistes and freeway with some wind buffering
Gotta have a strong hand grip and powerful neck to handle the wind for long. But hey, what's life without adventure! What matters is that you like it!
Bought
Mee too. But my friends say the Super Duke or the Tuono are better…
Two years late but the tuono is an incredible bike... BUT it's the most unreliable piece of shit I've ever owned. Owned it for a year and it broke down CONSTANTLY @@TheSek-
Was considering this or the new 2021 Ducati 950S SuperSport - I went with the Ducati. It does not have the same level of power, but the Ohlins felt better than the electronic suspension on the BMW, and the Ducati is (in my view) better-looking, with somewhat effective wind and weather protection. I also looked at all the tech that comes with the BMW, and worried about how much it would cost to fix when it breaks in a few years... I have owned a BMW car before, and they are not something to own without a warranty or your own personal repair shop!
Oh, now that's a beauty. As for reliability and costs of maintenance, I'm not sure you went the "regular" path choosing a Ducati.
@@VToldsMotoShow I would usually agree - Ducati seems to be getting better, and there are fewer things that are 'fancy electronics' on it (no keyless ignition, no headlights that 'move', and a few other things), and there are two fewer cylinders - it might help? hah!
I have the new S1000r, I just love it. It is fast, quick shift is awesome, handles perfect. There's no other bike I'd rather have for the money. Also, bmw quality on everything seals the deal
Love mine it’s a great bike all around
Oh yes, that's right about the quality - this is absolutely top notch in BMW.
Yes. Got a red one. But all my friend say super duke or tuono are better…
@@TheSek- better for mechanic🤣
@@ilija6619 absolutely
I’ll stick with my 2020, grab a bargain if you can. That old face will become iconic!
That's how legends are born. Look at classic cars. In fact they're all ugly for today's standards but there's something - as you put it - iconic about them. Very good point from you - thanks!
Never really loved the face on my ‘17 R although it is better than the new one. The New RR I think looks great, and if only the new R had more RR than 800 in its looks. The new RR or R9T are more likely replacements for the 17 than the new R, but the Tuono, Speed Triple and StreetFighter all have nicer faces. Spoiled for choice.
2019 here🤘
I like the new face over my 18R face. And overall design looks much better too.
Lol iconic recalls
A hate this headlight.... 😁 the old one looked much meaner and unusual. Old one for me plz 😁
I'm totally with you here.
o polskie platy! haha elegancko. super review bro :)
Tak jest, dzięki! :)
Polskie blachy 😂
7:18 This happens if you hold yourself on the handlebar while accelerating, which you should not do, because the influence of the wind is transferring into the handlebar through your arms. If you dont hold the handlebar too firmly while accelerating, it will not wobble.
While accelerating from/to higher speeds, just hold yourself with your tighs on the tank, tuck forward without applying force to the handlebar and you'll be fine. (I own the S1000R and experienced the same thing)
I prefer holding the bars firmly and I guess that BMW should expect riders to do that if they want to stay on the bike instead of fly away. Also, rolling the throttle open requires you to hold the grip rather firmly, doesn't it? I do blame the chassis in this case and it's quite specific to the S1000 platform as it used to be very much present there in the S1000XR of the 1st generation too.
@@VToldsMotoShow i agree, the S1000R chassis is prone to this wobble thing, bmw could have it done better. But apart from the wobble topic, i learned in driving school not to hold yourself on the handlebar, so i consider this part of driving skill
Very interesting video.
I’ve been riding on a CBR650R as my first bike and I’ve been wanting to potentially move to a bigger bike.
Always wanted a s1000rr but the s1000r also seems amazing.
Owned this in the gen 1 format the gen 2 and bought this gen 3 August 2022, it all happened when I took my gen 2 in for a service at my BMW dealer they loaned me the all new gen 3 while my bike was being done.
Came back and looked at the new silver One they had on display in the showroom and bought it, the difference between each generation is very noticeable but this all new model puts its Two older sisters in the shade, ride One and you will understand.
I would pay not to have keyless ignition on a bike. It's techno nonsense, adds to the cost of the machine and is something else to worry about. A normal key is simple, reliable and, doesn't cost a fortune to replace. Too Much Tech for no good reason.
Well, i would aggre with ya if not the issue when i was late once. Just parked the bike and OFF the engine....put the ignintion key out but ignintion was still ON...🤦♂️ I could start engine without key😎 common issue in a first gen. of 1000r
It found its place in cars many years ago and I love it ever since. Same with bikes for me. Not sure what the reliability rates are but if we were looking at new tech (which is fairly new only in motorcycles let's say) this way, we'd have no ABS till today. Some still don't want ABS actually, but a large group had their lives saved thanks to it at some point.
@@VToldsMotoShow That's a very strange comparisonn. Tech that is agreed to be life saving by the majority (and me) and tech that, potentially, will stop you from riding your bike just like cars.
@@cliveomahoney4096 I get what you’re saying, but I have a 2012 Harley with keyless ignition and it still works. Anecdotal sure, but if It is reliable in a 10 year old Harley-it can be reliable in anything. And it’s pretty convenient. To me, it’s neutral. If it’s there cool, if not cool.
The old face is way better. Do you maybe know if you can put the new chain on the old S1000R ? My dealer told me that it is not homologated for the old S1000R.
A chain is a chain. It has a matching pitch and width, and is strong enough for 200hp+ so yes.
Good question that if I were you, I'd search for an answer to on a BMW forum or ask it there. People do lots of things to their bikes and maybe somebody already tried doing it. However, if a technician (not a salesperson!) says that the parts are different, I wouldn't play with that. Even though I wonder what the difference could really be. Like Rob said before - a chain is a chain after all.
It is a direct fit did a M chain on a 2019 and it works just fine.
I should love this bike but It leaves me cold. I had the original gixxer 750, I've had a busa and an old zzr and they were inspiring. I'm 52 now and own a 2020 Gsxs 750 with the K5 engine. Looks nice sounds amazing.....and it has grin factor. The bmw undoubtedly has that but at a first look I don't connect.
Could you please give me your preference vs Ducatti street fighter v2? For commuting and city riding. Thanks a lot!
Nice review! Is it possible to take out the DB killer ?
Personal opinion. I like the new model because it is innovative and up to date for 2022, but I will buy the model 2019-2020 because it is the most proven model with 8 years of history and all defects are removed as much as possible and asymmetrical headlights are recognized in the crowd. Everyone knows that this is a BMW, you can't confuse it. The most important thing is that it can be bought for € 13k and up to 3000km from an authorized BMW dealer with all the extras / options and a two-year warranty. The new model will cost $ 22k if it is fully equipped with extras. The verdict is more than clear.
Yup, all of that would make sense to me too. I feel quite good about the 1st generation when it comes to comparing the R models over time.
I vote for the old face, old brakes and gearing!
The new gearing works better for the street. I switched from an 18 to the new version.
I bloody knew that they played with the gearing! Even though the salesman had no knowledge when I asked - this made me assume that everything is as it used to be. But damn, you made my day mentioning it as I finally understand that it wasn't just my weird feeling. Thanks!
@@adamniswonger8015 the bike is responding slow on high gears!
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Well I appreciate your opinion, although it is quite sensless to talk about the screen while completely blurring it. Also I think your complaints dont count for the dynamic mode view?!
It wasn't exactly to present the screen when it was blurry. And right, my point of view is regarding the default view that I consider quite weird.
In my humble opinion the previous version’s facia was hideous. I was offered $5k off msrp if i would buy it. No frickin way! What was BMW thinking?
Good one, they did go a bit crazy with the swollen eye design in the past but in the case of S1000R to me it was a part of its heritage and... kind of cute in such a beast.
this sure is a rocket, but were do you go with such a rocket
Oh, one may find a few places I guess.
Thinking of test riding a S1000R - whats your opinion - on my 2nd RS Street Triple and love it - might be fancying a change cheers
I wish I could tell you more but I've not ridden a Street Triple. All I could judge is how a name sounds in comparison with "S1000R" at this point. However, I've heard a lot of good stuff about those Street Triple bikes from Triumph, so I guess you might be on a pretty decent machine there. I like S1000R but I doubt if I would ever choose one for myself, especially now with its second generation.
Keyless entry…thieves love it!
I love it too!
Keyless entry is useful when someone tries to snatch the key in road rage or cops 😂😂
Very good point indeed ;)
How can they snatch the key if its inside your inner jacket pocket thats zipped up?
@@pbrooka9619 exactly
Not sure I understand why you’d think it will most.y be ridden in the city, unless you live in the city snd never get out. Sure, I’d use it, especially with the OEM luggage, to go about my daily errands and grocery shopping, but as soon as I had some time I’d head to the twisties outside the city. Seems crazy to think people would mostly ride this in the city. Apologies if I’ve misunderstood.
I personally do ride mostly in the city and regardless of that, this is where I see that naked bikes are supposed to be used, if one is not as lucky to live in a countryside with great roads or in the mountains. For faster riding I'd only proceed with motorcycles with any kind of wind protection hence my conclusions.
Looks far better than an MT-10...but an MT-10 has a lot more character....tricky, very tricky
I took one out for a test ride on Saturday. Power unbelievable traction unbelievable huge downside. I couldn't see anything behind me with the vibration in the mirrors. And the buzzy vibration in the handlebars....
Oh dear, that sounds interesting. Maybe there was some issue with that particular unit? They can vibrate at the highest RPM but I guess not more than any other regular bike according to my experience.
Nice machine. But I prefer the Ducati diavel in Beautiful Warsaw Poland.
Oh, that's a legendary one too.
A video on triumph Street triple R please
Triumph seems to be falling behind the others where I'm from. I used to try a fe bikes but then the showroom disappeared and never appeared again so I couldn't ride anything. It's a pity.
To much ambiguous the review. You need to decide, the bike it is good or not?
There isn't a clear statement. Part is better, part is worse than before. I guess nobody can say that S1000R is a bad motorcycle within its class. I'm sure it's not bad, but I'm not sure that it's better than it used to be in the previous generation.
Can you add handlebar risers to take pressure off the wrists?
I like the new face for sure.
I'm pretty sure that technically this is possible. If there are specific accessories out there already - this would require checking and making sure that all wires and hoses have enough of additional length to be lifted further. But where you're going with it could be a brilliant idea. Ducati does that with their XDiavel I believe.
BMW offers handlebar risers, I ordered mine a week ago and the salesman offered handle bar risers to me 👌🏻
Something about putting your key in the bike and turning it all these new electronics and gizmos just make it less real world riding idk maybe it’s just me but I’m old school
It's an option, so if you're not really that much into it, then it's even better as you can save some money by not getting it!
Just had a guy across the road have his bike nicked while in his house because the proximity key was just within range!!
Thieves learnt how to successfully deal with this technology and "steal" the signal if the key is close to the house's door or a window. That's a pity.
I prefer the old look…
My man!
To be honest me too, it had some personality.. Shark or cyborg 😊
New bike any day,thks.
Thanks for sharing!
The last bike I would want as a city bike.
Perfect for canyon carving and rides on backroads.
Also would be a nice track bike too.
Thanks for sharing this. I think that if that track wouldn't be full of very long straights, then sure this bike would feel great there with all that performance. I'd gladly try that myself on it.
@@VToldsMotoShow so you don’t think any naked bikes are good for the track? It’s just as quick as the rest.
New all day! Old one is probably the ugliest thing I’ve ever seen 😂
Haha, there's something creepy about that face, I agree ;)
Have you seen triumphs naked bikes? Nuff said.
the torque curve is simular to z1000 so i dont know why you constantly slag the s1000r and xr regarding its bottom end its not lame its fine. also such a power delivery makes it a nice docile bike in the bottom end as for 1250gs that machine is a prehistoric tractor
I guess it's a matter of perspective but there's not as much punch as some 2-cylinder engines provide at lower revs. I like that initial punch like in a naturally-aspirated V8 car.
@@VToldsMotoShow before bought my new xr i sold a z1000sx a r1200rt and a gen 1 tuono each has different engine power delivery not much to equal a 1000cc vtwin bottom end but bmw have imo made a decent job of the s1000xr i had 2019 s1000r for a week when it was a new courtesy bike and although quick i found it quite unrefined the new engine in xr is more refined. I had my daughter on last week around scotland with my shad full luggage and it was amazing also got 50mpg as well so highly delighted only a few issues like rider pegs are in the way of legs when coming to a stop so i am fitting some adjustable pegs to bring them back 40mm i do rate your reveiws though pal have you been around scotland
I guess it’s cheaper to just lose 5 kilos myself. And healthier also.
220mm rear disk for such a bike like this 😲😲😲😲😲
Is it ok or needs upgrade?
I'd say it's totally not necessary to upgrade the brakes here. Size doesn't seem to matter that much here I believe. Especially that it's very easy to lock the rear wheel, so it means that the brake isn't too weak. Of course ABS immediately kicks in so that the wheel keeps rotating but the stopping power of the rear brake alone isn't great because of a lack of traction, not because of the brake not being powerful enough. I'm pretty certain about that. Hope this helps.
How tall you are? No hate, dream bike
Im 183 cm tall (6 feet).
would be cool if you can try the BMW R nine T!
I actually did ride R nineT for some time a few years ago. Brilliant and very enjoyable and stylish motorcycle. That was in its early years and I'm certain that it's still awesome for the purposes that it was built for.
it might need a wing to keep it down.
Why you use the clutch if this bike have quickshifther
Really BMW bikes give you the best build quality? I had 2014 s1000rr and now the 2019 s1000rr m package and I find the build quality very disappointed for the price and for BMW flagship race bike. Very low-quality plastics everywhere It's something I expect on cheaper Suzuki bikes, not BMW.
Also, Going cheap on the brakes which are great on the street but kinda lacking on longer track sessions.
I find Ducati bikes to have the best build quality all fit perfectly with top-spec details that really look and give you the feeling of a premium bike the only thing that rivals Ducati in this is triumph.
I think you're mistaking build quality with the smooth feel of the engine and electronics.
Other than that they're amazing bikes and blast to ride.
The definition of quality or rather perceiving quality may be in fact different. Engines and electronics aren't the case I think as I've been riding a variety of bikes, BMWs and others, for years and my perception has been the same basically from the beginning. Now the way that the switches look, feel and "click" I do count, I also consider how smoothly the handlebar works, how solid certain elements feel and how they look. I believe that this would reflect how I judge this aspect.
Love from India bro....
Thanks and I'm sending kisses in return!
New S1000R is a lovely package, but keyless is a pain in the arse. You’re always searching for your keys. Here’s an idea, why don’t they design a key holder on the bike….. it could take the form of an keyed ignition lock. 👍 The asymmetrical front on the older model was iconically BMW; the front of the new model now looks like any other naked bike - sadly.
I agree with your view on the looks. It used to be like the GS family still is - sort of honors the heritage. As for searching for the key, do you mean that since it can now be anywhere on your person with the keyless system, then you cannot find it in the end?
I like the BMW. But the tuono still beats it.
Now it makes me think about a Ducati Streetfighter and a KTM Super Duke.
@@VToldsMotoShow lol I just got the street fighter yesterday
Yamaha HS8?
Right, these are absolutely lovely, sound crystal clear and are able to shake the walls at the same time.
Might be this 68 year olds next bike, since I never used my 2018 XR for cross country travel. 90% on my riding is in the hills
If you'd be into sitting in a much more sporty position, having a stiffer suspension, and likely a bit more agility, then yeah - why not? S1000R would give you all that in comparison to an XR. However, I just realized that you meant the 2018, so perhaps the "R" might not the so much more stiff than the 1st generation S1000XR.
It kinda looks similar to the f900r
City streets???
Insulting!
It‘s a landstrasse(cross country road) racer…
It‘s for driving on mountain passes…
If one lives in the mountains then likely yes.
Bro review zh2
To warto wymieniac na nkwy model czy nie?
Jeśli szuka się bardziej sportowej pozycji i bardziej konserwatywnego wyglądu, to pewnie tak. Jeśli woli się charakterystyczną gębę i nieco bardziej komfortową pozycję, to nie ma co kombinować. Odczuwalne zmiany nie są moim zdaniem jak niebo a ziemia w codziennej jeździe.
Bad front design (head light section)
a city bike? what the fuck did i just hear
Ile masz wzrostu?
Mam 183 cm bez obcasów.
how much is your height sir?
I'm 183 cm tall or 6'0".
Tuono v4 Factory all day long
And I'm interested in Ducati Streetfighter V4. All that power... come to daddy!
@@VToldsMotoShow I was two, but after testing both I went with the Tuono the midrange power, engine sound and character is on another level, also it produces less engine heat than the street fighter and provides way more wind protection as well.
The old one for sure. But 1290 sdr is the best on the category
I think you might've touched a very interesting topic. If only I could ever try a KTM, I think I might become a fan.
Tell that the S1000R its a city motorbike....... its like said that Sunny Leone is a woman for married in the church.
The front headlight is just ugly… sorry 🤷🏻♂️
Yeah, no need to be sorry. It's quite boring now too.
The old front is ugly.. the new one is ugly and looks like a honda..😂
Old with a characteristic design, new more like all others - that's about right to me ;)
Looks like a Japanese Bike, no charisma anymore....Nothing sound's like the first 2014 s1000R
Exactly!
You lost me at 'not a bike for long distance as it's a naked'....BS
Yep. My 17 R cruises just fine and I would think the new one does too
Not sure how to defend naked bikes being touring motorcycles from the logic point of view.
@@VToldsMotoShow all I can say is mine tours ok, where most of the trips I do are quite deliberately on twisty secondary roads avoiding motorways where possible - but it sits ok on motorways. I am sure there are bikes that tour on long open roads better, but I cannot, for me, see any benefit in getting a less fun bike for those trips. Each to their own.
Wobbling bug! Do not like!
Yeah, I'd really expect that to be 100% fixed my now.
@@VToldsMotoShow that vibration is horrible ... only this bike has this bug by 150 km h