Veterans Guardian Looks To Be In BIG TROUBLE With VA Disability Claims

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КОМЕНТАРІ • 185

  • @TheCivDiv
    @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +2

    1-stop-shop for Veteran benefits: CivDivonline.com
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  • @wadetomczyk8043
    @wadetomczyk8043 Місяць тому +19

    If the VA actually did all they good then we wouldn't have to resort to these companies.

  • @Bob-cx4ze
    @Bob-cx4ze Місяць тому +20

    This is an outgrowth of the failure of the VA. Ultimately, the purpose of disability is to repay the vet for losses, monitary and quality of life, caused by their service. The "one size fits all" policies, the dogged adherance to only specific guidance and the complete lack of service to assist the veterans in getting the remuneration to which they're entitled opens holes for fraud and abuse as well as leaving many vets and their families to struggle alone. If they want to fix this, start by changing from a "prove it like it's a courtroom" additude to a "we'll help you navigate this" additude.

    • @rogersmith7808
      @rogersmith7808 Місяць тому

      Exactly right. The bureaucratic VA nonsense is what's driving vets to these outside companies.

  • @Joe67888
    @Joe67888 Місяць тому +24

    I was rated 70% for PTSD 10 years ago from my service in Vietnam in 1968-1969. Since then, it's gotten worse. Most civilian doctors have all my PTSD issues documented in my medical records. When I ask them to provide a letter that I can present to the VA for an increase, they always get rejected because the VA has a particular laundry list of items they need to see in the letter that civilian doctors do not cover every single little detail enough to satisfy the VA for an increase. So we have to find a doctor or someone who knows all the "buzz words" that need to be mentioned in our claim, or it just gets rejected, over and over again. It just isn't possible for a veteran to write what they are going through because the VA has our claim and all they do is go through the letter to see if things line up with what THEY think needs to be in there in order to get and an upgrade to 90 or even 100%. I know. It's been going on with me several times, and I am really hurting because of insomnia and other issues that the VA doesn't seem to think is sufficient enough to get a higher rating. So we are in a catch 22 situation. We're damned if we do and we're damned if we don't meet the VAs criteria for a successful claim.

    • @drewbear78
      @drewbear78 Місяць тому +3

      100% agree brother.

    • @penrodautorepair3170
      @penrodautorepair3170 Місяць тому +3

      File TDIU

    • @cassiuswilliams6633
      @cassiuswilliams6633 Місяць тому +2

      @@Joe67888 get a DBQ fill out by your doctor showing how severe it is. If you can do that, you should be able to get 100% for PTSD. On top of that, you will be able to qualify for SMC S house bound. One of my friend is at SMC S for house bound with a 100% rating for PTSD.

    • @Joe67888
      @Joe67888 Місяць тому

      @@cassiuswilliams6633 thank you I will see if I can get those forms so the doctor can fill them incorrectly

    • @Joe67888
      @Joe67888 Місяць тому

      I meant to say correctly

  • @mooviedude141
    @mooviedude141 Місяць тому +13

    I wish the government was as carefree with VA compensation as they are with sending money to foreign nations.

    • @thewatcher4552
      @thewatcher4552 Місяць тому +2

      Or immigrants

    • @jim6996
      @jim6996 8 днів тому

      This is EXACTLY my response anytime I hear anyone complain about a veteran getting compensation "they think" doesn't deserve it. I would rather see a veteran get my tax dollars than a foreign country, illegal alien, or some low life ghetto/trailer trash that has never been a productive member of society. Stop paying tax dollars to those and then you can scrutinize what they give to a veteran.

  • @user-zf8hw2nz2e
    @user-zf8hw2nz2e Місяць тому +7

    I used them and got a 70% for MH, but I was starting to get suicidal because I didn’t know what was wrong with me and I was miserable. Long story short I go to therapy every week and I’m on the max dosage of several MH meds from the VA. They mail the meds directly to my house, which is nice.
    I didn’t get 100% P&T until I had my hip replaced. Then I used a VSO, Vet Guardian was annoying once I used them once and seemed like they were fishing around so I backed far away from them. The VSO helped me get to P&T about 2 years later. Since then I’ve had major spine surgery but I’m not poking the bear since I’m already P&T.
    I literally didn’t know how to proceed for MH and they helped me get started, which saved my life even though I’ve been suicidal since using them.
    I hate the fact that it’s scary that I used them but I really do have and continue to have MH issues. Not sure I’m going to make it some days…

    • @cassiuswilliams6633
      @cassiuswilliams6633 Місяць тому

      @@user-zf8hw2nz2e I can understand that. I have insomnia and PTSD and hallucinations and on sleep medications. You should apply for SMC S. Have your doctor to fill out the form and send it to your regional office. I would recommend you do that.

  • @AFVetteran
    @AFVetteran Місяць тому +8

    Hmm, the VA does their own C&P exam. Wouldn't they find different results? VG does seem to only focus on this though. They ghost you once you set your payments. I went to them looking for assistance to get my obstructive sleep apnea (already diagnosed and using a CPAP every night) and they started with this stuff and said they'd double back after. They said chronic pain as being evaluated much quicker so it is better to file separately after they complete and assign a rating for chronic pain. I was never coached to lie and answered everything honestly. I don't want a rating I don't deserve. They never came back to me for my sleep apnea. I still need to work that.

  • @kevine8862
    @kevine8862 Місяць тому +9

    Not defending vets guarding if they are doing all of that. However, they do not help everybody who consult with them. They’ve told people they “cannot help them” or they will “honestly not get much”. So my thinking is that they ask people their symptoms and if they feel they can get paid from a winning claim, they only go after those big money claims (mental health). Do they coach up a little bit? I’m sure they do but I’ve definitely heard of them not helping non-qualifying clients. Huge success rate doesn’t necessarily equal fraud IMO.

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +1

      They definitely help veterans that’s not in question. Something to keep in mind is any sound-minded company would change their practice a bit as this is dated back to 2020.
      Then we have to look at COVID and PACT Act changing the landscape a bit…much more to uncover here.
      - Clay

    • @kevine8862
      @kevine8862 Місяць тому

      @@TheCivDiv Right.
      Either way, appreciate the perspective and the content, Clay!

    • @AFVetteran
      @AFVetteran Місяць тому +5

      @@TheCivDiv Maybe that's why I didn't experience this with them. I used them this year and signed the documents and wasn't encouraged to fake anything. That would have been the end and I would have reported them to the VA if I felt they were engaging in fraudulent activities.

    • @ChaseMitchell-yo8tv
      @ChaseMitchell-yo8tv Місяць тому

      ​@@AFVetteranwhat was the outcome of your claim after working with them?

    • @gbone1812
      @gbone1812 Місяць тому

      @@AFVetteranso did you get the results you hoped for.

  • @mikevondebag
    @mikevondebag Місяць тому +11

    My "brother in law" used a lawyer and I don't know how to say what I have to say about him without looking like a dick. So in normal Marine fashion here we go.
    So this dipshit joins the Army, gets an mos in the air wing (whatever the army calls it), goes to South Korea, goes AWOL, gets kicked out, his discharge changes and he's able to file for VA disability.
    The days he qualified he hired a legal team and 8 months later he had 90% disability. 70% from PTSD.
    I asked him straight up "you have PTSD" and he avoided the question and said "they just use whatever evidence they see in your records."
    So according to my mom, they spun his awol bullshit as a mental health crisis.
    So every time I see him I ask him if he woke up on the wrong end of a donkey show.
    Rant over.
    I collect disability as well. Im at 90 p&t but paid at 100 for unemployability due to a panick disorder I developed after my third deployment and got worse during my fourth. I'm rated at 50% for PTSD
    I don't complain. I consider myself blessed. However, I definitely think these services can make those whom actually have problems looks bad.

    • @gorenas_garage
      @gorenas_garage Місяць тому +1

      Hahahah yeah we hate those guys.

    • @thewatcher4552
      @thewatcher4552 Місяць тому +1

      I don't blame the veteran I blame the system. With so much fraud PTSD rates will drop dramatically because of frauds. Imo if you didn't deploy in combat zone you're ptsd rating shouldn't be over 30% period

    • @raynutz1
      @raynutz1 Місяць тому

      After they start treating PTSD with LSD, you will see a lot of these 100% rating drop down.

  • @penrodautorepair3170
    @penrodautorepair3170 Місяць тому +9

    99% says that the VA is mad that they’re getting veterans rated

    • @ChefJudge
      @ChefJudge Місяць тому +1

      No, just no. Fraud is not only a civil action, but I suspect indictments are coming soon.
      It isn't the VA that brings these actions, it is the DoJ

  • @65Acura
    @65Acura Місяць тому +15

    This is very sad BUT the C&P exams performed by Optum is this exact model. Usually performed by licensed nurses now doctors and with 0 to 1 years of experience. And the VA send too many veterans to this company. This company rarely find the diagnosed disability in the veterans favor.

    • @SteveMoore71
      @SteveMoore71 Місяць тому

      Those "nurses" arent making diagnoseseseses. They are recording data, including symptoms.

    • @cassiuswilliams6633
      @cassiuswilliams6633 Місяць тому

      @@65Acura the same goes for QTC. The gave me a bad medical opinion for type 2 diabetes and TBI. I'm fighting it now. Optum Serve have it good and bad. They did me better than QTC.

    • @regulator18E
      @regulator18E Місяць тому +3

      ​@@SteveMoore71they never said they were. They said they rarely find the diagnosed disability, meaning the previously diagnosed one that they are documenting the severity of

    • @SuperBayarea87
      @SuperBayarea87 Місяць тому +2

      That’s why the VA use them

  • @wiggyjones
    @wiggyjones Місяць тому +3

    Im really sorry for those veterans who have real issues and put their trust in companies that defrauded the government. Now those veterans will be dragged through the mud and potentially lose their disability compensation through no fault of their own.

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому

      @@wiggyjones I see this one
      - Clay

  • @radiokiller1452
    @radiokiller1452 7 днів тому

    I went threw vso at dav for help, I was seen by different Drs ranging from shrinks to back specialist. With vet guardians using same Dr constantly will raise red flags. I still have a rough time dealing with life
    But not fake. Those veterans using those guys out of Pinehurst NC. That's near the 82 d airborne. Lots of clients. Stread the word ot there about good boss takes time but worth it.

  • @carlloucoleman
    @carlloucoleman Місяць тому +1

    Thanks for the update. I guess I won't mess with Veterans Guardians.

  • @paulking5612
    @paulking5612 Місяць тому +3

    Interesting, how did VG get a claim for MH approved without the proper people(doctors) writing nexus letters. Were their clients not subject to C&P exams? Sounds like the part of the issue falls with VBA approving claims submitted by VG.

    • @peralta2912
      @peralta2912 29 днів тому

      The claims are not submitted by VG directly, they prepare all that is needed including the doctor writing the Nexus letter. then they send it to you to sign and then you send it to the VA, I believe that they are not mentioned in what you send to the VA.

  • @EAWhite1984
    @EAWhite1984 Місяць тому +2

    Stories like this are why I hate the VA. When I came back from deployment to iraq in 2005 I was flagged for having ptsd. went through a little bit of therapy ordered by the army and filled out a claim for it. they denied service connection and didn't award benefits. So for the last 20 years i've written off the va and have been trying to treat it whenever I had money available to pay for therapists on my own with varying success for short term stuff. after almost 20 years the vha contacts me about pact act stuff and the providers I talk to immediately recognize me having mental health problems and start trying to get me treatment for it. i'm still sitting in limbo whether or not the vba will award service connection. somehow people who apparently might not even have ptsd at all can go to a company and get 100% just annoys the crap out of me. life can be the worst sometimes. with the experiences I've had I don't fault companies who are able to get people benefits if they are really hurting for whatever reason.

    • @jasonproctor9896
      @jasonproctor9896 Місяць тому +1

      Re-engage and get what you deserve from the VA

  • @bu1trevino
    @bu1trevino Місяць тому +2

    I have a record of chronic pain due to things that happened to me in the military, I was seen by a doctor, then I was also seen by the VA who confirmed and agreed with that doctor, but yet my claim was denied??? I still suffer every day with chronic pain, and reported this for years I don’t know what is true when they claim that veterans gardening has committed fraud. But some cases which I believe is about recorders are justified in their claim.

  • @Ben78255
    @Ben78255 Місяць тому

    I think the fact that one is considering the assistance of "claim shark" in itself is a sign of desperation, suspicion and other mental health issues...so I am not surprised that those desperate enough to go that route are depressed.
    Their clients are not a representative sample of all veterans.
    Love your videos!

  • @jefftrotter5802
    @jefftrotter5802 15 днів тому +1

    Been getting denied for 28 years . Going to the vso and doing it myself. 1st try got 70 percent with Veterans Guardian.

  • @frankharris6136
    @frankharris6136 Місяць тому +11

    Sounds like an angry employee.

  • @religionlol7323
    @religionlol7323 18 днів тому

    The VA can't be surprised people look to other outlets to get compensation when the VA doesn't understand plain English in nexus letters, or disagrees with a diagnosis. The VA is no victim here.

  • @cassiuswilliams6633
    @cassiuswilliams6633 Місяць тому +5

    Veterans Guardian almost got me. Fortunately I got sn accredited attorney. They wanted to charged me three forth of the amount of money. $8,000.00 for getting me to TDIU. I declined and they aren't no different than Veterans Claim Isider. Get an accredited attorney instead of getting a VS claim shark.

    • @AFVetteran
      @AFVetteran Місяць тому

      I looked into accredited attorneys and they want significantly more than VG.

    • @jasonproctor9896
      @jasonproctor9896 Місяць тому +1

      @AFVetteran the attorney I used only took 20% of my backpay. Nothing more

    • @AFVetteran
      @AFVetteran Місяць тому

      @@jasonproctor9896 It depends on what your backpay is. If it is something that was previously missed where you get 10 years of backpay, that 20% would be pretty big.

    • @cassiuswilliams6633
      @cassiuswilliams6633 Місяць тому

      @@jasonproctor9896 my took 1/3 and got me to where I'm at. I can't complain. He even got me SMC S.

    • @cassiuswilliams6633
      @cassiuswilliams6633 Місяць тому

      @@AFVetteran My attorney asked for 2)3 of the amount. He got me SMC S and now working on a higher level of SMC.

  • @Life_is_a_Gamble44
    @Life_is_a_Gamble44 Місяць тому +10

    Great video on a bad subject. If true they are possibly going to jail. Thanks for sharing.

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +1

      Hey thanks and the OIG report of this year indicates similar
      - Clay

  • @isaacschwaiger5722
    @isaacschwaiger5722 8 днів тому

    Nah bro veterans guardians give veterans what they actually deserve, that’s crazy how yall would even say they would falsify claims

  • @ulysseswallace
    @ulysseswallace Місяць тому

    How does this affect the Vets that have used Veteran's Guardian? I used them but the VA also had me do a C&P with the mental health provider. He agreed with the Dr. that VG had me see. This is really messed up. I thought that the VG was a responsible company. SMH!!!

  • @chrisclark6981
    @chrisclark6981 Місяць тому +2

    My PTSD is 70 percent migraine 30 percent
    Planter fascistial 10 percent
    Pact act 10 percent
    So im only at 90 percent. Plus some veterans affairs does not care about helping actual veterans. Also va rating system and math is screwed up thus causing some to go outside to get disability compensation

    • @panoplites
      @panoplites Місяць тому

      It's crazy what you have to go through to get that last 10%. You need something else rated at like 50%.

    • @chrisclark6981
      @chrisclark6981 Місяць тому

      @panoplites true that's what I have been told

    • @israelbrewton5742
      @israelbrewton5742 22 дні тому

      @@panoplitesit’s about 210% altogether to get 100 or some bilateral stuff for the bilateral factor to kick in and help.

  • @kevinhendrix8786
    @kevinhendrix8786 Місяць тому +1

    I really worry about the vets who got their ratings through this company (and other consulting companies with "in-house" medical providers). The VA would be justified and obligated to review the diagnoses if 99.99% are diagnosed/rated using these firms. Which is going to stink for vets who have grown accustomed to getting that check. So even though the vet did nothing wrong, and may have received the correct rating, they will have to deal with the stress of those exams being reviewed/redone.

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +1

      Even worse, the veteran (not the company) is on the hook for fraud if found.
      - Clay

  • @grnidgrl2005
    @grnidgrl2005 Місяць тому

    I think that the VA does not evaluate veterans properly to begin with and this results in vets HAVING to seek outside people to support them to get the disability they deserved to begin with. Exponentially more vets are "depressed" or suffer from PTSD than you think - and many, especially men - do not seek help for many years so when they finally do you get an employee like this on claiming it's false...it's why the suicide rates for this population are EXPONENTIALLY higher than the civilian population - 22 EVERY DAY! For me, this sounds more like a disgruntled employee - if there are 120 employees and only one is saying there is an issue...I'd be looking at the employee instead.

  • @johnstory7466
    @johnstory7466 Місяць тому +2

    Anything new with the sleep apnea stuff? Thought something was going to come out on June 2024

    • @raiderjedi4160
      @raiderjedi4160 Місяць тому +1

      Believe half of what you hear, until the VA publishes any changes all of this stuff is speculation.

  • @LTZ_Z71
    @LTZ_Z71 Місяць тому +3

    My only question is, how does this ultimately impact the rated veteran?

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +1

      If fraud is found, the company is not liable as their name isn’t tied to the claim. Meaning the veteran is solely responsible.
      - Clay

    • @robturner7853
      @robturner7853 Місяць тому

      @@TheCivDiv that would suck!!

    • @robturner7853
      @robturner7853 Місяць тому

      unless the veteran knew they didnt qualify of course

  • @lawrencearmstrong8957
    @lawrencearmstrong8957 Місяць тому +3

    That fraud in some cases may be true, however, it is a fact that chronic pain does cause depression and anxiety

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +2

      True…but for every single case at 50%+? Seems fishy
      - Clay

    • @robturner7853
      @robturner7853 Місяць тому

      @@TheCivDiv inside job

    • @israelbrewton5742
      @israelbrewton5742 22 дні тому

      That depends on the number of cases and their system. They might have an audit or prerequisite questionnaire only taking on veterans who answers yes to triggering Answers which triggers a potential 50% or higher claim or they won’t take on the client. It’s just not enough info. What is the percentage of people that get screened to take asvabs to join the military? What is the percentage of veterans and active duty that HAS to pass boot camp is join? I believe that’s about 100% is that fraud? A high percentage isn’t definitive proof. Who ultimately benefits if these companies go away or are banned?

  • @DomDelbuco
    @DomDelbuco Місяць тому

    The 99% success rate is made possible by the initial questions before onboarding. What would VG want to spend vast resources on something that has a possibility of failing?

  • @SteveMoore71
    @SteveMoore71 Місяць тому +6

    My dude.. Im willing to bet that 30% of the people subbed here are guilty fraud as well. Not making excuses for VG in any way. Just making it abundantly clear that everyone involved in streaming well intended aid, be it through documentation or via light tutoring, is committing or aiding in the commotion of fraud!

    • @Bob-cx4ze
      @Bob-cx4ze Місяць тому +3

      "Commission," but point taken. The issue is really about intent and action toward a criminal activity.
      If the system was competent and honest, vets wouldn't have to be strategic to get the recompense to which they're entitled. That, in my opinion, is at the root of all this. If the DoD hadn't committed uncorrectable errors such as purging records of medical treatment, it wouldn't need to be so complex and ripe for abuse.

    • @kevinhendrix8786
      @kevinhendrix8786 Місяць тому +4

      I disagree. Is it considered fraud when a lawyer advises a client to answer things a specific way in a trial?

    • @SteveMoore71
      @SteveMoore71 Місяць тому

      @@kevinhendrix8786 Short answer. No
      Its the 'client' that is making the conscious decision to follow the guidance. Sure, the client can claim complete ignorance. But that in no way makes them unaccountable. The 'lawyer' isn't doing anything fraudulent at all. In fact, Ide venture to say that 100% of those offering ANY level of guidance clearly state multiple times that they are NOT telling you what you MUST do. Only offering their assistance in following a path toward what YOU as an individual are looking for.
      That is 100% the case with this channel as well. What the individual decides to do with the knowledge gleaned from here, and other jewtoobers pages, solely rests on the shoulders of the person taking the actions. And that, in no way, makes what that person is doing legal, or NOT fraudulent!
      Its just like a gun. It can sit on the table, lay in a crib, sit in the passenger seat, or rest in the hands of its owner. None of those things are "wrong"! Its what the person commanding the trigger points the business end at that determines right or wrong, good or bad, evil, and legal or illegal.

    • @rogersmith7808
      @rogersmith7808 Місяць тому

      @@kevinhendrix8786 If a lawyer tells a client to lie in court they can be disbarred.

    • @MadMeave
      @MadMeave Місяць тому

      Proof of 30% fraud or are you just spewing shit from your mouth?

  • @robturner7853
    @robturner7853 Місяць тому

    No 50% and above , No Way!! , I knew I was 50% nutz before I signed lol ! I was denied for somatic symptom disorder, after I was already 100 P&T which fits, The VA added a PTSD claim on my behalf!!!! that I had removed as soon as I saw it.

  • @shepatown
    @shepatown Місяць тому +4

    Sounds like they rubber stamped everyone as having mental health problems because they had a mental health specialist working for them. MH is not so easy to see, so gotta take their word for it. See a specialist, get a rating. If they had a podiatrist, then everyone might have some kind of foot problem diagnosed, except it would be easier for the VA to verify. We need more whistleblowers in these places. Keep em honest.

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +2

      Yeah exactly…this accompanied with the OIG report talking about indications of fraud on a DBQ is enough for me
      - Clay

  • @helbertasprilla
    @helbertasprilla Місяць тому

    This is going to have a widespread implications on every veteran treated by that Doctor and his team. At the end of the day the loser is the veteran once again hoping to get rated fairly and sold a bag of dreams by these company’s that pray on us. I am wholeheartedly against fraud and the VA and congress needs to be held accountable for giving out bonuses in the millions to the higher ups while many veterans struggle to get fairly rated. As long as there is a systematic breakdown in the intake and processing of veteran claims, there will be fertile ground for unscrupulous claims businesses.

    • @AFVetteran
      @AFVetteran Місяць тому

      Why? You submit the paperwork with your claims. The VA does their own C&P exam using their own contractor. They ask you questions, you answer them. They give you a rating based on what their C&P exam was able to validate and you get nothing for things they cannot.

    • @helbertasprilla
      @helbertasprilla Місяць тому

      @@AFVetteran That sounds great in theory, however that is rarely the case. Oftentimes the C&P examiner fails to review the veterans records thoroughly and misses vital information that is relevant to the rating decision. The exam is basically a live DBQ however when a veteran submits their own DBQ the va can overwrite the veterans and go with the decision of the examiner who basically saw the veteran for a short amount of time and has little knowledge of his/her condition. This leaves predatory companies who employ unscrupulous medical professionals to render questionable medical opinions. This ruins it for everyone else who is legitimately trying to get a fair shake. The process is supposed to be non adversarial and there is a duty to assist but this would not be an issue if those principles were practiced correctly. Surely there must be a better way……….just my 2

  • @blizzyTX
    @blizzyTX Місяць тому +1

    couple things, this is practically the same thing that veterans claims academy does. except vcas spouse owns the examination company that they refer you to.
    8:08 Right before you said not every veteran is depressed, I was thinking something way different. if you consider the entire population of the United States, most people are depressed. so it is highly plausible that most veterans do have some form of depression. whether it's caused by a chronic pain condition or whatever is really up for debate. but depression, 90% of people probably are checking that box in some form; with the majority of that going undiagnosed..
    ptsd is a whole different story as we know.

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +1

      I agree with the depression piece however, the 50%+ every time really does seem suspect and questionable at best
      - Clay

    • @blizzyTX
      @blizzyTX Місяць тому +1

      @@TheCivDiv absolutely. that's quite an impressive batting average.

    • @Everflames_Glory
      @Everflames_Glory Місяць тому

      Is it safe to use va claims academy?

    • @blizzyTX
      @blizzyTX Місяць тому

      @@Everflames_Glory i would not.

  • @JamaicanMeCrazy-j1w
    @JamaicanMeCrazy-j1w Місяць тому

    When it comes to who's responsible for these fraud cases, is it the veteran or the claims company?

  • @daneldwinbrooks8444
    @daneldwinbrooks8444 Місяць тому +2

    Yea that's strange 50% every time

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому

      VERY strange
      - Clay

    • @ChaseMitchell-yo8tv
      @ChaseMitchell-yo8tv Місяць тому +3

      It's more strange that the VA is approving the 50% everytime.

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому

      @@ChaseMitchell-yo8tv flawed system that is extremely easy to exploit
      - Clay

    • @robturner7853
      @robturner7853 Місяць тому

      @@ChaseMitchell-yo8tv inside job?

    • @robturner7853
      @robturner7853 Місяць тому

      @@ChaseMitchell-yo8tv inside job

  • @phw6526
    @phw6526 Місяць тому

    Can a veteran do a iPhone video of their medical appointments? To capture what MD or other medical professionals say..

    • @lissa.sahsah
      @lissa.sahsah 20 днів тому

      It’s typically prohibited in most hospitals and clinics so probably best to use spy glasses

  • @xjumpmaster82
    @xjumpmaster82 Місяць тому +1

    This is a disgrace I hope they are held accountable to the highest extent and all claims done by them are reexamined.

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому

      Allegations keep that in mind
      - Clay

    • @xjumpmaster82
      @xjumpmaster82 Місяць тому

      @@TheCivDiv true.

  • @thewatcher4552
    @thewatcher4552 Місяць тому

    You will always have scammers we see in welfare, disability claims, SSA, and the Veterans community is no different. It's going to make PTSD raiting system even more a nightmare in the end...and who suffers the vets.

  • @combatdouglas1306
    @combatdouglas1306 Місяць тому +2

    How much of a kick you getting on Patel or Sharma ?

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +1

      They pay a fee for ad space but as indicated in the motion and the OIG report of ‘24 the issue is the consultation piece. Getting the highest rating no matter what begins to skew the line.
      - Clay

    • @combatdouglas1306
      @combatdouglas1306 Місяць тому

      @@TheCivDiv the question was do the docs give you a fee for every referral ?

  • @TheViciousRavex
    @TheViciousRavex Місяць тому

    We’ll be smart with who you use. You know your getting your moneys worth if their credible.

  • @jasonproctor9896
    @jasonproctor9896 Місяць тому +3

    It also should be brought to light that veterans who knowlingly knew this company was gonna commit fraud for them but then try to act innocent. The reason people use claims consultants is because they know theres a good chance they can get an increase and don't care what the company does to do it.
    Honestly I feel like these companies and a ton of youtube channels created a culture of do and say anything to get rated. Instead of just using the big 3 and doing the work.

    • @ChaseMitchell-yo8tv
      @ChaseMitchell-yo8tv Місяць тому +7

      I disagree. People use them because they don't wanna do all the work of getting the info together. If people don't wanna use consultants cool, but why bad mouth them.

    • @jasonproctor9896
      @jasonproctor9896 Місяць тому

      @@ChaseMitchell-yo8tv so you'd let a company charge you 5x the increase and commit fraud just to get your rating up instead of just getting your info together? The issue isn't people just using companies because they're lazy. It's them using companies that knowingly break the law for them

    • @ChaseMitchell-yo8tv
      @ChaseMitchell-yo8tv Місяць тому +2

      ​@jasonproctor9896 Obviously, fraud is wrong, and no one should do it. So if I let HR block do my taxes because I don't wanna do it or don't know how. I have to pay them to prepare it. Some people like to work smarter and not harder. I don't have time and don't know all the things that need to be done to file a claim. If people pay other people to do it so what and why would I care how much they pay these people.

    • @jasonproctor9896
      @jasonproctor9896 Місяць тому

      @@ChaseMitchell-yo8tv I do agree with you but that's not what people have a problem with. The problem is them ripping people off and committing fraud.

    • @kevinhendrix8786
      @kevinhendrix8786 Місяць тому +5

      I disagree. Most vets are confused and/or frustrated by the system and these companies promise to help them. And they are the "experts", so when they say go see our doctor and say this, vets go along.

  • @shirtlesslager
    @shirtlesslager Місяць тому +10

    I wonder why they forge signatures. Just get the client to sign, electronically. Odd.

    • @EAWhite1984
      @EAWhite1984 Місяць тому +2

      just pinballing here but some of the exams people need to have done need to be in person so forging a signature on a physical document could be part of the way they use to "prove" that the veteran actually saw the professional who practiced states away. or it is just a way for them to control timelines of things and keep the veteran out of the loop for whats really happening. delay the case as long as possible so they collect more months of backpay that can have that 30% skimmed off the top.

    • @N1co777
      @N1co777 Місяць тому +6

      When one signs a contract with these types of associations they give the company permission to sign for them. Its basically a Power of Attorney so that part wouldn't be fraud but I'd like to see this play out in the court room.

    • @AFVetteran
      @AFVetteran Місяць тому +3

      They had me sign. Mailed it to me. Wet ink signature, not digital.

    • @AFVetteran
      @AFVetteran Місяць тому +4

      @@EAWhite1984 They don't get any of the backpay. They take five months of whatever increase they help you get. So if you're currently at 30% and the VA increases you to 70%, their fee is the delta between 30 & 70 times 5. You can pay a lump and get a 10% discount or set up payments for five or ten months.

    • @shirtlesslager
      @shirtlesslager Місяць тому +1

      @@AFVetteran They are Luddites.

  • @foleyhurt
    @foleyhurt Місяць тому

    What’s the outcome. It’s from 2020

  • @jeremecox1
    @jeremecox1 Місяць тому +1

    I believe that PTSD ratings should be given primarily to individuals who have received a Combat Action Ribbon (CAR) or a combat badge, as well as to those who have experienced sexual assault.
    Guys claiming PTSD and deployed to Kuwait what a joke..

  • @dudeseriously57
    @dudeseriously57 Місяць тому +6

    So a former pissed-off disgruntled employee files a lawsuit against VG and you say it's shocking or gospel, PLEASE! What you seem to be advocating is a 100% review of every current veteran claim because veterans are dishonest, right? (Project 2025) Priceless 😮

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +6

      Sooooo…we’re just going to ignore the 50% + rating every single time for every veteran no matter what and then we’re going to ignore the OIG report showing indications of fraud that came out in Jan of ‘24…? That’s weird.
      - Clay

    • @ChaseMitchell-yo8tv
      @ChaseMitchell-yo8tv Місяць тому +9

      ​@@TheCivDivbut doesn't the VA have to review and approve these claims right? So if they think the veteran deserves 50%or whatever. Why does anyone else have a problem with it? If that's the case then u should have a problem with everyone's rating. The fact the VA is approving them is all that matters. Cant blame the veteran or Veterans guardian.

    • @cassiuswilliams6633
      @cassiuswilliams6633 Місяць тому

      @@dudeseriously57 no really. I recalled the VG was trying to rip me off $8000.00 for saying that they could get me TDIU. I told them I had medical evidence that could get me 100% P and T. They ignored that and still was interested in getting me TDIU. I declined and was recommended a accredited attorney and he really did and still working for me and charged 3/4 lesser than VG. My attorney got me SMC S and still working for a higher level of SMC due to my health conditions. I recommend a accredited attorney because VG prey on veterans compensation and takes over 80% of the amount you received back after a favorable VA benefits decision. Not disgruntled just exposing VG of conducting shady dealings.

    • @regulator18E
      @regulator18E Місяць тому

      ​@@ChaseMitchell-yo8tv uhhh yes you can blame them, because the VA is rating them based on facts in a claim submitted by them (along with C&P of course). If the VA rates someone based on facts A, B, and C but those facts were all fraudulent to begin with, how is that not on the veteran and claims company?

  • @tylermarks7463
    @tylermarks7463 Місяць тому

    Just go to your local vso
    Saves you money

  • @angelajohnson4666
    @angelajohnson4666 Місяць тому

    It is easy to recognize if the person in authority is qualified or has walked the path of experience.

  • @romavictor5252
    @romavictor5252 Місяць тому

    This lawsuit if from 2020... we are almost in 2025....

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +1

      And they’ve been kicking the can down the road as long as possible
      - Clay

  • @JesusUCSB
    @JesusUCSB Місяць тому +1

    Uh oh

  • @eternitysedge
    @eternitysedge Місяць тому

    Wow…

  • @mailman8108
    @mailman8108 Місяць тому

    Wow😮

  • @angelajohnson4666
    @angelajohnson4666 Місяць тому

    No mental health is very easy to diagnose. Here is the difference between a mental health vs a hip or knee or shoulder or physical disability. Most times if the part of the body is still present the body will heal itself. When they use the implants is when those particular parts of the body have become damaged or become losses. Now a surgeon can put a person in need of a physical body part back together pending though no medical errors and this person would reach higher level functioning than someone with a mental disability or mental health issues. Compensatory skills take longer to redevelop the cognitive functioning than physical rehabilitation after a surgical implant or even per se an open heart surgery in which the heart has been replaced with a pig heart or animal heart. Physical issues are easier to turn around than mental health issues. Of course too now if the body is diseased then this situation is even another set of issues.

  • @angelajohnson4666
    @angelajohnson4666 Місяць тому

    I disagree. I know of physicians who have misdiagnosed a broken foot.

  • @angelajohnson4666
    @angelajohnson4666 Місяць тому

    No I am not Veterans Guardians. I do not even know who they are. As a matter of fact many of these newly formed organizations and groups I did not know they even existed. I only know basic veterans service organizations and that is it. All this outsourcing for claims is absolutely Greek to me. Everything has changed so much but for the worse. I mean the for the WORSE.

  • @smokenjoe4022
    @smokenjoe4022 Місяць тому

    yo•~utu-~be took my comment👇🏻!

  • @Willie-y5z
    @Willie-y5z Місяць тому +2

    Way to go, Veterans Guardian. I bet you Clay exaggerates some of your disabilities to get 100% Mr MMA

    • @TheCivDiv
      @TheCivDiv  Місяць тому +3

      Nope, not at all. And if you’re referring to musculoskeletal conditions I have 2 that are rated on pain with motion. Definitely not debilitating. Small 10%ers that’ll most likely get worse over time.
      Appreciate it.
      - Clay