Since American equipment is standardized and easily upgraded Cold war era tanks are almost interchangeable. With he maintenance and logistics systems already in place the M24s are perfect for thier intended roles. Mechanics, fuel and operational experience with armor is far more important than the vehicles themselves. I qualified in an M48, M60s and M1a1 back in the day. A World War 2 era M4 crew could easily get any of them going the control interfaces, tactics and crew drills are still the same.
that is hugely important actually, the interchangeable parts, the same controlls all of that aids in the logistics of war, I mean it doesn't matter how great your tank is if you have nobody to drive it and can't get spare parts
@@rubberwoody Oh, I see, well that's nice, as an Uruguayan myself, it makes me feel proud of my country when someone recognizes and mentions it. Have a good day/night!
As an Uruguayan i will only said Thanks a lot for give your time to the history of my nation and made this great video about our small but proud army Thanks alot again
A 75mm main gun can deal with even modern APCs, and could still knock out treads and such on modern tanks immobilizing them. 75mm high explosive round is excellent for support if enemy are in bunkers or fortified positions. If you sent in special forces or rangers and parachute them in to secure and airfield or an important area and some chafees came in to repel the attack i would still be very concerned.
@@gj1234567899999 but is the protection and the crew’s ability to detect enemy be good enough for them to survive the encounter? I’d not be so confident in a chaffee as I am not so confident that the chaffee’s armor is up to task against the RPG-7 or any modern auto cannon. And the chaffees in question doesn’t seems to be fitted with any modern optics.
@@NoName-sb9tp the Chaffee absolutely could not withstand an RPG 7 or an autocannon. When dealing with bandits or insurgents, however, this is a particular case that they probably didnt even have to worry about those most of the time. Really mostly just an ultra light urban assault gun in this case.
Great job! The narration was excellent, nice and clear. One tiny suggestion: I think that it would be helpful to put captions underneath the stills. For instance, @4:39, what exactly are we looking at? I'm guessing that it's the Chaffee with a bigger gun, but I'm not 100% sure. Thank-you.
Despite being a fuel transporter, (USArmy) my dad, sometime in the early 1990s, was involved in sending vehicles; what described as a cross between a HMMWV and a Willy's Jeep over to South America.
Just a correction, the MLN-T was disbanded by 1972, most of the group where in jail by the time the dictatorship started in 1973, Jose Maria Bordaberry was democratically elected president in 1971 he dissolved congress in 1973. Don't know where people read about it but i see a lot of people making this mistake Also technically speaking all Pacheco and Bordaberry did until 1973 was constitutional
After the defeat in 1972 the MLN T reorganized in Argentina and integrated the Revolutionary Coordinating "Junta" together with other terrorist groups from Argentina, Chile and Bolivia, they continued with their training in Cuba to continue the armed struggle, but the participation of a Trokista group In that "Junta" motivated that Cuba,( which was following the directives of the USSR), stopped supporting it, the armed arm of the Communist Party of Uruguay (well organized, trained and equiped with american weapons captured in Viet Nam provided by the USSR )was captured in 1976, the terrorist threat was far from being finished in 1972
Alferez is Ensign. Following spanish tradition es the lowest officer rank in the army. Next one up is 2nd Lt. Good video, well done, keep practicing your spanish though.
Denmark had an upgraded version with a 90mm gun. I belive it was not retired until sometime in the early 90ties. Used as a scout tank, supporting the Chieftans and Leopard 1 MBT.
Bit of nitpicking M2 12.7mm (metric) or .50cal (imperial) choose one and stick with it (althougt for M2 common choise is .50 cal (12.7mm x 99mm) while Russian e.g. DShK is 12.7mm (12.7mm x 108mm) for easier diffrentiation between ammo types). Same is with 7.62 NATO (7.62mm x 51mm) vs. 7.62 R (7.62mm x 54mm) vs. 7.62 (7.62mm x 39mm)
@@Garhunt05Es cierto y existen algunas ametralladoras en ese cal. ruso en cierto material blindado de esa procedencia. Soy militar uruguayo en Retiro. Los tanques M24 y los M3A1 ya fueron descontinuados del servicio hace tiempo sustituidos por material más moderno. Saludos
The Chilean upgraded M24s at least has more modern fire control system and a 60mm HVMS gun. I think it would be a good light tank in the cold war scenario.
They wouldn't be ineffective. Still able to fight other South American countries and provide considerable infantry support. Main anti tank role would probably fall to infantry.
As a Uruguayan I have to say that we have a fleet of useless tanks, from the TI-67 Tiran to the M41A1UR (Uruguayan variant of the M41A1 tank, equipped with a 57mm cannon if I remember correctly) I have seen the M24UR in some military bases (on display, along with information plates) and I have to say that for low intensity wars (you can correct me) or for interim conflicts against cartels or other factions it is an exaggeration to even have M24 Chaffe, Uruguay has a useless and technologically backward tank fleet, and all attempts at modernization were blocked by the government or by high command of the Uruguayan army. (I know I made this comment 2 years after the video came out)
buy them cheap from uruguay then sell them for a decent price to the public in the US, they are woefully outdated but there are plenty of collectors interested and few countries that allow it asside from the US anyway keep a couple for ww2 themed parrades
Paraguay has M3's in sort of service. It was stated that it was in service again, but nothing can be traced back on the Paraguay MoD or on any pictures. So, they might be, or might not be in service.
It would be great to do a follow up on their M41 tanks. Strange the Brazil had to ask permission from USA to donate old tanks.. I would have just given them a finger..
I will probably handle the M41C for Uruguay eventually, im the Brazil expert for Tanks Encyclopedia and pretty much dug up all the info regarding the M41C and retirement side of things for this article, plus who did the DN-11 engine replacement.
The US retains ownership of much military aid equipment. Upon decommission it usually is returned to the US for disposition. Brazil was transferring to a third party so they had the US approve the transfer.
@@mikeopacity542Es por EL PACTO DE AYUDA MUTUA. EL MAP. El material de guerra de USA que fue donado a los países latinoamericanos incluyendo a Uruguay en los años 50 NO SE PUEDE VENDER NI TRANSFERIR SIN AUTORIZACIÓN DE USA.
I wonder if you could keep the main gun live, have to register it as a Destructive Device and pay the tax, unfortunately the coax and other machine guns couldn't come back.
Lots of them can be found today know of 12 myself but they are not that valuable yet with the EU banning or trying ban all private ownership the market has cooled for them in germany you must cut holes in the Armour of private tanks that why a tiger 1 was sold to the USA with all major parts sourced to make it a runner
@@jplauy They went all over S. America. Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador, et al. Plenty of Rat Lines ended in Uruguay. Of course we can't forget the 15,000 ex NAZI's that the USA imported to work on Military and Rocket programs too.
And change the worn out engine and transmission. Change the worn out suspension and tracks Redo the whole electrical system to conform to modern standards Stick in a new radio and new electronic. By this point, why not just buy a new tank? Or just stick the Spike on a modern commercially available light vehicle?
@Tank Encyclopedia Engine and transmission .. plenty of suitable ones available I'm sure.. something in diesel perhaps.. suspension worn out? Err unlikely.. probably just needs rebuilt with maybe some locally made parts... tracks.. could cast sections and fabricate pins in a garage sized location so I'm sure even a country like UG can manage that... or ask a friend.. rewiring.. (presumably also piping etc) 4 to 8 remotely competent fitters could make up the sets required and redo them (after a nice strip and refresh of the interior) new radios .. think Israel or one of the other providers has something suitable... add a few safety features as well... cost of project maybe 1 million usd per vehicle including some spike... time.. say 4 to 5 years all in... improvement to national prestige and confidence significant... as oposed to your suggestion... what??? Some up armoured humvee that immobilise themselves or some other wheeled monstrosity about 10 musd per copy for some of the massive wheeled disasters with maybe a 50 cal in a remote station.... total budget 500 must vs maybe 30... and all work done in other peoples countries.. hmm.. I will stick to my choice based on 40 years of engineering and military science... plus common logistic and fiscal sense. .
Uruguay not need spend thousands of dollars in tanks?? No need tanks there only for big countries, the bridges in Uruguay can't handle tanks, only some Apc, Uruguay spend good money in healthcare, education and social services that's useful!!
Cometés un grave error. El que hoy en día y en el porvenir las cosas aparenten pacíficas, no quiere decir que debamos dejar de estar preparados ni que debamos olvidar como luchar. Aunque algo si es cierto. Desde el punto de vista logístico y de infraestructura, operar carros de combate en nuestro territorio es difícil.
Given the longevity of the M24 in Uruguayan service, I wonder if there were any grandfather, father, son, multigenerational M24 tankers.
Kind of like the B-52.
@Max Kronader you might be right
Most likely since here the armed forces are a multigenerational thing
Totally
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Since American equipment is standardized and easily upgraded Cold war era tanks are almost interchangeable. With he maintenance and logistics systems already in place the M24s are perfect for thier intended roles. Mechanics, fuel and operational experience with armor is far more important than the vehicles themselves. I qualified in an M48, M60s and M1a1 back in the day. A World War 2 era M4 crew could easily get any of them going the control interfaces, tactics and crew drills are still the same.
that is hugely important actually, the interchangeable parts, the same controlls all of that aids in the logistics of war, I mean it doesn't matter how great your tank is if you have nobody to drive it and can't get spare parts
I was also trained on a lot of tanks.B-2-1 Knox.oct 15- Mar 22.Misery,Heartbreak,Agony.
Appreciate the effort put in the spanish pronunciation of names, you do it very good!
WOOD speaks Spanish as a secondary language
@@rubberwoody Oh, I see, well that's nice, as an Uruguayan myself, it makes me feel proud of my country when someone recognizes and mentions it.
Have a good day/night!
As an Uruguayan i will only said
Thanks a lot for give your time to the history of my nation and made this great video about our small but proud army
Thanks alot again
As long as your main enemy is your own Population, any Tank is modern enough.
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A 75mm main gun can deal with even modern APCs, and could still knock out treads and such on modern tanks immobilizing them. 75mm high explosive round is excellent for support if enemy are in bunkers or fortified positions. If you sent in special forces or rangers and parachute them in to secure and airfield or an important area and some chafees came in to repel the attack i would still be very concerned.
@@gj1234567899999 but is the protection and the crew’s ability to detect enemy be good enough for them to survive the encounter? I’d not be so confident in a chaffee as I am not so confident that the chaffee’s armor is up to task against the RPG-7 or any modern auto cannon. And the chaffees in question doesn’t seems to be fitted with any modern optics.
@@NoName-sb9tp the Chaffee absolutely could not withstand an RPG 7 or an autocannon. When dealing with bandits or insurgents, however, this is a particular case that they probably didnt even have to worry about those most of the time. Really mostly just an ultra light urban assault gun in this case.
Excellent history. Thank You. I've always said that the M-24 is the 1965 Mustang of tanks. They are a handsome vehicle. I'd love to own one.
The Norwegians had a few of these, armed with 90mm gun.
tanks-encyclopedia.com/coldwar-norway-nm-116-panserjager/
I'm glad that Uruguay are keen on preserving these armoured vehicles even if they get decommissioned, it's a nicer than what most countries do
Kinda funny how as a bonus they got a recovery vehicle with the Chaffee’s
Thanks!
Great job! The narration was excellent, nice and clear. One tiny suggestion: I think that it would be helpful to put captions underneath the stills. For instance, @4:39, what exactly are we looking at? I'm guessing that it's the Chaffee with a bigger gun, but I'm not 100% sure. Thank-you.
Hi ! On this pic these are M41 Walker Bulldog light tanks.
Despite being a fuel transporter, (USArmy) my dad, sometime in the early 1990s, was involved in sending vehicles; what described as a cross between a HMMWV and a Willy's Jeep over to South America.
A piece about the tanks of the Paraguay-Bolivia "Chaco War" (1932-1935) would be fascinating addition to your channel.
tanks-encyclopedia.com/bolivian-armor/
tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2-bolivia-carden-loyd-mkvi-in-bolivian-service/
tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/bolivia/vickers-mark-e-in-bolivian-service
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Just a correction, the MLN-T was disbanded by 1972, most of the group where in jail by the time the dictatorship started in 1973, Jose Maria Bordaberry was democratically elected president in 1971 he dissolved congress in 1973.
Don't know where people read about it but i see a lot of people making this mistake
Also technically speaking all Pacheco and Bordaberry did until 1973 was constitutional
After the defeat in 1972 the MLN T reorganized in Argentina and integrated the Revolutionary Coordinating "Junta" together with other terrorist groups from Argentina, Chile and Bolivia, they continued with their training in Cuba to continue the armed struggle, but the participation of a Trokista group In that "Junta" motivated that Cuba,( which was following the directives of the USSR), stopped supporting it, the armed arm of the Communist Party of Uruguay (well organized, trained and equiped with american weapons captured in Viet Nam provided by the USSR )was captured in 1976, the terrorist threat was far from being finished in 1972
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What a great tutorial! Thanks for sharing this.
I was literally wondering this yesterday
I hesitated watching this for so long, my favorite lil 50s tank.
OOOOH a video about my own country armed forces in english? this is rare
Cada vez que leo a un uruguayo escribiendo en ingles en UA-cam, me queda más claro la baja autoestima que tenemos como país.
@@fabiogonzalez3094 viejo el vídeo es en inglés, si el vídeo es en español hablo en español
@@fabiogonzalez3094 lo que demostraste es que no sabes diferenciar cuando se habla en un idioma o en otro.
You mean Hitler appointed an Uruguayan to succeed him? Damn.
Fascinating topic, thanks for the brilliant video!
Alferez is Ensign. Following spanish tradition es the lowest officer rank in the army. Next one up is 2nd Lt. Good video, well done, keep practicing your spanish though.
and the perfect guy to lead a maintenance platoon and tinker with his vehicles like that :)
Denmark had an upgraded version with a 90mm gun.
I belive it was not retired until sometime in the early 90ties.
Used as a scout tank, supporting the Chieftans and Leopard 1 MBT.
Norway. Denmark had M41s.
Another intersting Video.
Never tought i'll hear anybody talking about the tanks in my country
Beautiful machines.
Bit of nitpicking M2 12.7mm (metric) or .50cal (imperial) choose one and stick with it (althougt for M2 common choise is .50 cal (12.7mm x 99mm) while Russian e.g. DShK is 12.7mm (12.7mm x 108mm) for easier diffrentiation between ammo types). Same is with 7.62 NATO (7.62mm x 51mm) vs. 7.62 R (7.62mm x 54mm) vs. 7.62 (7.62mm x 39mm)
Minor mistake with the Rifle calibers russian is 7.62×54r
@@Garhunt05Es cierto y existen algunas ametralladoras en ese cal. ruso en cierto material blindado de esa procedencia. Soy militar uruguayo en Retiro. Los tanques M24 y los M3A1 ya fueron descontinuados del servicio hace tiempo sustituidos por material más moderno. Saludos
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imagine trying to fight cold war or even modern tanks in that
The Chilean upgraded M24s at least has more modern fire control system and a 60mm HVMS gun. I think it would be a good light tank in the cold war scenario.
Urugay will never have to fight anyways
It's more of a police vehicle than something you fight other nations with
They wouldn't be ineffective. Still able to fight other South American countries and provide considerable infantry support. Main anti tank role would probably fall to infantry.
@@solidsnake8330 No they don't, specially if you consider what Argentina and Brazil have.
По ледлизу в СССР были Чаффи поставлены? В боях участвовали? Кто знает?
I thought Thailand still had operational M24s?
We decommisioned M24 for long time ago and now shifting M41 to Oplot (in limited number) and VT4.
As a Uruguayan I have to say that we have a fleet of useless tanks, from the TI-67 Tiran to the M41A1UR (Uruguayan variant of the M41A1 tank, equipped with a 57mm cannon if I remember correctly) I have seen the M24UR in some military bases (on display, along with information plates) and I have to say that for low intensity wars (you can correct me) or for interim conflicts against cartels or other factions it is an exaggeration to even have M24 Chaffe, Uruguay has a useless and technologically backward tank fleet, and all attempts at modernization were blocked by the government or by high command of the Uruguayan army.
(I know I made this comment 2 years after the video came out)
wow, the bit of them being used in combat... that hurt me deep, poor girls, used against the people she was given to protect, the people of Uruguay
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buy them cheap from uruguay then sell them for a decent price to the public in the US, they are woefully outdated but there are plenty of collectors interested and few countries that allow it asside from the US anyway
keep a couple for ww2 themed parrades
Im form Uruguay 😎
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They are completely obsolete.. but I've heard of a country still operating M3s.
I guess the Chaffees can still serve as training vehicles.
Paraguay has M3's in sort of service. It was stated that it was in service again, but nothing can be traced back on the Paraguay MoD or on any pictures. So, they might be, or might not be in service.
@@blasekiller9733 If they still use those poor M3's.. well, at least they have the spirit.
@@a7v976 i mean, Paraguay doesnt really have decent tanks to begin with. The basic goal was to supposedly use them againt guerillas
How much would i meed to buy one
I wonder if the ammo for the 75mm guns was 50+ years old too. Not exactly a common chambering for a long time.
i'd imagine american sent them manufacturing plans for 75mm ammo
It would be great to do a follow up on their M41 tanks. Strange the Brazil had to ask permission from USA to donate old tanks.. I would have just given them a finger..
I will probably handle the M41C for Uruguay eventually, im the Brazil expert for Tanks Encyclopedia and pretty much dug up all the info regarding the M41C and retirement side of things for this article, plus who did the DN-11 engine replacement.
The US retains ownership of much military aid equipment. Upon decommission it usually is returned to the US for disposition. Brazil was transferring to a third party so they had the US approve the transfer.
@@mikeopacity542Es por EL PACTO DE AYUDA MUTUA. EL MAP. El material de guerra de USA que fue donado a los países latinoamericanos incluyendo a Uruguay en los años 50 NO SE PUEDE VENDER NI TRANSFERIR SIN AUTORIZACIÓN DE USA.
Do you know if Americans can buy these back to the US demiled, of course but as Uraguay us not using them any longer
I wonder if you could keep the main gun live, have to register it as a Destructive Device and pay the tax, unfortunately the coax and other machine guns couldn't come back.
Who bought the WW2 M24s from Uruguay? Hope some Soldier on in collector hands.
As far as I'm aware, they're in Uruguayan Army storage, not up for sale.
What would Uruguay do with tanks.is Argentina on the prowl again or perhaps rounding up cattle for the army bbq.
Wow….they lasted until 2019….if they lasted that long thats a record.
ifuraguay used them until just a few years ago. can i buy one? if i hit lotto?
no, you can't.
Lots of them can be found today know of 12 myself but they are not that valuable yet with the EU banning or trying ban all private ownership the market has cooled for them in germany you must cut holes in the Armour of private tanks that why a tiger 1 was sold to the USA with all major parts sourced to make it a runner
Wood?
The mexican military should also purchase the m24 chaffe
include it in the german tech tree!
Uruguay isn't Germany?
Why?
It's an American vehicle, modified and used by a South American country.
@@NicoURU1830 @AGW but come on. Its bäsicly a german wehicle. And gErMaNy SufFeRs.
Good spanish pronunciation.
And there were plenty of German "expats" in Uruguay to teach them how to use their tanks.
Not so much, the majority of the "expats" that you are referring where or are on Argentina.
@@jplauy They went all over S. America. Chile, Paraguay, Uruguay, Ecuador, et al. Plenty of Rat Lines ended in Uruguay. Of course we can't forget the 15,000 ex NAZI's that the USA imported to work on Military and Rocket programs too.
Really you could take a chaffee... stick a spike launcher on it and it's good for anti tank and anti infantry work. .. so would still be relevent..
And change the worn out engine and transmission.
Change the worn out suspension and tracks
Redo the whole electrical system to conform to modern standards
Stick in a new radio and new electronic.
By this point, why not just buy a new tank? Or just stick the Spike on a modern commercially available light vehicle?
@Tank Encyclopedia
Engine and transmission .. plenty of suitable ones available I'm sure.. something in diesel perhaps.. suspension worn out? Err unlikely.. probably just needs rebuilt with maybe some locally made parts... tracks.. could cast sections and fabricate pins in a garage sized location so I'm sure even a country like UG can manage that... or ask a friend.. rewiring.. (presumably also piping etc) 4 to 8 remotely competent fitters could make up the sets required and redo them (after a nice strip and refresh of the interior) new radios .. think Israel or one of the other providers has something suitable... add a few safety features as well... cost of project maybe 1 million usd per vehicle including some spike... time.. say 4 to 5 years all in... improvement to national prestige and confidence significant... as oposed to your suggestion... what??? Some up armoured humvee that immobilise themselves or some other wheeled monstrosity about 10 musd per copy for some of the massive wheeled disasters with maybe a 50 cal in a remote station.... total budget 500 must vs maybe 30... and all work done in other peoples countries.. hmm.. I will stick to my choice based on 40 years of engineering and military science... plus common logistic and fiscal sense. .
pov me brining my Chaffee to 7.0
Chaffee best tonk
Uh-huh-huh-huh...wood
Uruguay not need spend thousands of dollars in tanks?? No need tanks there only for big countries, the bridges in Uruguay can't handle tanks, only some Apc, Uruguay spend good money in healthcare, education and social services that's useful!!
Cometés un grave error. El que hoy en día y en el porvenir las cosas aparenten pacíficas, no quiere decir que debamos dejar de estar preparados ni que debamos olvidar como luchar.
Aunque algo si es cierto. Desde el punto de vista logístico y de infraestructura, operar carros de combate en nuestro territorio es difícil.
Excellent. Only learn how to pronounce the country’s name.
that's the Spanish pronunciation
Ah, the old struggle against communism. You're dammed if you do and dammed if you don't.
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No WW2 German tanks being used that long 🤔
Dude, mannnnnn put more of a progressive spin on a tank video please!