That's funny to hear you say that Citizens never have alignment issues. I've never had a Citizen with a seconds hand that aligned perfectly, and I've owned a dozen or so. To me, their QC is crap.
That's funny to hear you lying about Citizen watches having QC issues and that you supposedly have 12 of them. Why would you have 12 of them if they're crap? Stop lying and get a life. *Update* I see you edited the part out where you said you had twelve Citizens...lol.
I think it's stunning. It has a kind of monstrous beauty. I know there's the Ecozilla and the NY0080 Godzilla, but this one is properly Godzillian. I love it. Great video, thanks man.
In the land of the round, it is refreshing to finally see a square shaped case. I have the green version and I love it! Thanks for the insight of the 1982 original watch. It’s hip to be a square 🔳
totally love this historic case design. this is a great watch otherwise as well...very light, super alignment and cosmetics...the sec hand is 95%+ on the markers all the time (just some minor drift every now and then), the crown is A+++, the lume as well. i'm a classic dive watch collector and lover going back to the Rolex sub, and many many 60s Swiss and Japanese models...and despite that i adore this case design. which means nothing really, as we all have our own tastes. but just to let you know that as a 35yr mechanical dive watch collector/seller/restorer i absolutely appreciate this case, as different as it is. this is a winner watch. lucky enough to get the version you show here from amazon for $261...i just lucked into it. but would have bought at $400, and been happy. by the way, the strap is super comfortable...me with a 7 1/4" wrist. hope that helps in your survey of what people think of the style.
I agree fantastic watch I was this over the seiko tuna or the 65 re interpretation diver but go this as it's not a seiko but a citizen so to me its unique and special more to me.
You've hit the nail on the head, when you say the look is polarizing. I can't speak for anyone else (obviously).... But I Love everything about it. You're also correct when you say Seiko could learn a thing or two about QC from Citizen. I currently own 18 eco drives and can honestly say, I've never had any issues. I also own a few Seikos and the build quality just ain't what it used to be. Still love em though. Great Review, as always... Cheers from the UK !!!
Picked up the blue version. Your quibbles about the date window and strap are 100% correct. Other than that, I'm loving this watch. What's funny is how small it looks because of the dial diameter. Your video and photos I've seen make it look huge, but it definitely doesn't feel that way. I was torn between this and a Seiko Tuna. Really glad I went with the Citizen. Your Bell & Ross comment is what I was thinking too. Also has a Luminox tactical watch feel. I picked this up for just under $400 and I think it's a bargain at that price point. Thanks for reviewing it!
Picked up one of these for my birthday recently. Gorgeous piece of kit. Very comfortable and accurate. The case feels like a mix of concrete and plastic, which is awesome.
The square, obviously gives the watch its own identity, sandblasted titanium gives the metal that weathered metal look, too bad on the case back they didn't do anything more but as a tool watch I guess that's enough. Great video, a lot will like or dislike the look thank you for bringing it to the channel and review! The gold or yellow details on hands and number markings remind me of my Casio watches of the 90's.
Love the watch. Case looks retro. 👌. Every time I see a watch I like I always find that you've reviewed it. Same taste. Thanks for your awesome reviews!!!!
The pseudonym "TORTOISE" is so fitting with this watch. Draw an outline of a TORTOISE and you will see what I mean. The crown is the head and the 4 corners are the stubby legs of a TORTOISE. I love the watch but I would have to swap the minute hand with a red or orange SEIKO TURTLE PADI hand to make it pop. 450 is a 3rd of what a TUNA would cost. It's an eccentric timepiece
I like it because its different, a homage to the original.I do prefer the color you reviewed.I have 3 promomasters, 1 of them is a limited edition.They are all keepers, love them.
I like it! It's unique and simple enough in design but truly rugged looking as well. That will most definitely be my next watch purchase, Citizen No. 7 to be exact. It reminds me of the Dark Knight gear. "I'm Batman!" 🦇
I purchased one for $325 and was excited to get it. I’m on the fence with its overall size. I’m a big guy (6’7” 245) and it just feels too small. To be honest, thanks to the weight (or lack of) it feels like a very expensive toy. I expected (due to reviews) some massive beast of a watch. It’s like wearing a 80’s swatch.
They also made an 800m version to go with the 1300m back in the 80s . I had one. It had gas permeable o rings so didn't need a helium escape valve. The modern one your reviewing has a durinox coating on the grade 5 titanium so should be less prone to scratches. Good review, especially digging out the original 1300m watch. It was a very rare beast indeed. Used by Saturation divers.
Like the case as it stands out from the standard diver that is boring after awhile. Looks rugged. It is probably over done to some extent. Can't you apply something to soften up the strap?
Thought I would hate it based on photos alone. I could see it growing on me but doubt I would choose this over something else. I do love the huge handset on a quartz watch.
I just picked up one of these last weekend the blue whale shark limited edition and it has not left my wrist since and that's saying a lot as I have over 20 dive watches in my collection... absolutely love it
The square case doesn't work for an every day watch but if the watch is going to be used by divers, specifically for diving, it's all good. At 5:55 the seconds hand skipped.
Check out the limited edition whale shark version of this watch has got a very cool whale shark design on the back of the case since you're a fan of case designs on the back LOL
Eco Drive was invented way back in the 70's (1976) so I'm guessing that they weren't yet confident in the relatively new tech to put it in a high priced diver. Very interesting watch and possibly a Tuna alternative? Thanks 👍🏻
picked one up for $170 on sale. great watch, great value for money. wears alot smaller than the case size would indicate plus being titanium wears very light on the wrist.
It’s kind of like the Seiko Tuna. Kind of ugly, but purpose built and oddly kind of cool. I kind of like the robust look and tool vibe of the case. It wouldn’t be a daily wear, but for its intended purpose, I like it.
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Helpful review. I like Citizen's dive watches, already wear an ecozilla with aftermarket lugs, a titanium mechanical diver (nb6004-83e), and a thinner titanium eco-drive diver. Eyed this on and off for a while, and with the all-in price under $250, just purchased. I'm also a happy seiko tuna wearer, so this should work fine. Interesting comment about the watch feeling small - I have an 8 1/4 inch wrist and am intrigued to see how it wears.
I also just got mine for a very, very good price. Came in yesterday and I am very happy with it, especially in regards to overall quality which is top-notch and suggests a more expensive piece. Wears much smaller than one would assume and is rather lightweight. A keeper.
I like the case design, but it's the size, Citizen's website quotes it at 47mm, to be polite it's just a little too big! Fair enough if it had the same depth rating as the original it would be understandable. It should have been 42mm with 20 - 22mm lugs, I'd probably have paid up for that imaginary version!
It wears like a 42mm watch.. don't let the measurements put you off, similar vibe to a Seiko tuna. I just purchased mine for £159.. some great prices available now.
Because it's a dive watch. Sapphire is harder to scratch, hardened mineral is harder to break. If you are underwater and depend on your watch, would you have the crystal rather be scratched or broken? Also, on all Citizen divers I know the crystal is recessed, so it's pretty hard to scratch anyway.
It’s crazy how expensive that original version was at the time with a quartz movement they must have spent a ton of money on tooling and R&D i personally love retro dive watch reissues from a variety of brands so I like the new modern reinterpretations I haven’t really got to look at this one up close until now these dials might be some of the coolest I’ve seen from citizen I am also on the fence I like the eco drive although I wouldn’t have minded a 4 hertz myiota either but oh well and I like the fact they got rid of the date function and moved the crown to 3 o clock but I really wish they would have kept the screws I’m sure a lot of people like that they got rid of them but I love seeing hardware on the outside of my tool watches it just screens function over form. Same with the QC never had a problem with citizen I’ve bought Seikos for $1k plus and had the bezel not be aligned I have cheap pro masters less than $200 the bezel action is phenomenal and all my pro masters have milled claps most with ratcheting dive extensions your going to have to pay 4-5 times as much for a seiko I still can’t quit them I have a box full bod them and maybe 6-7 citizens Maybe I’ll flip a coin on it 🤣
Quartz was still well respected when this watch first came out and (If I remember correctly) was not only more desirable than auto but in many cases rather pricey in the early 80s. It's only after the Swiss revival that the average consumer began to see automatic as superior.
@@CaptGus It’s true. Sapphire crystal has a tendency to shatter when hitting against something hard due to sapphire being brittle. Mineral glass tends to flex more when hitting against something hard. With that being said, I’d prefer sapphire crystal as well.
Mine has a quality control issue. The second hand doesn't hit app teh tick marks. At first it bothered me but I got over it. After all, you're only going to quickly glance at the dial so it's whatever. I do enjoy the black dial though. Overall it's a cool watch. I love it, inaccurate second hand and all.
That’s not a QC issue. There are luxury quartz in the thousands of dollars that don’t hit the marks on the dial. That’s just normal for many Quartz movements. It doesn’t effect time keeping.
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I like the square case and color. You just said nobody needs 100m on a watch. You and I ... Maybe not... But there's professional divers that do and that's what Citizen sells, as much as other brands sell the concept, which is nice to have. I'm putting a link here for these guys, sponsored by Citizen. One of them is Ben Reymenants. He goes down to 200m and loves that Citizen surpasses that depth. Having said that most of the legit divers I know either use Citizen, Seiko, or the dive computer with no backup watch. Here's the link, I know you'll enjoy it. ua-cam.com/video/Vg7VvHNcXBA/v-deo.html
That's funny to hear you say that Citizens never have alignment issues. I've never had a Citizen with a seconds hand that aligned perfectly, and I've owned a dozen or so. To me, their QC is crap.
That's funny to hear you lying about Citizen watches having QC issues and that you supposedly have 12 of them. Why would you have 12 of them if they're crap? Stop lying and get a life. *Update* I see you edited the part out where you said you had twelve Citizens...lol.
I think it's stunning. It has a kind of monstrous beauty. I know there's the Ecozilla and the NY0080 Godzilla, but this one is properly Godzillian. I love it. Great video, thanks man.
I like this description "monstrous beauty". And thanks for the kind words :)
In the land of the round, it is refreshing to finally see a square shaped case. I have the green version and I love it! Thanks for the insight of the 1982 original watch. It’s hip to be a square 🔳
totally love this historic case design. this is a great watch otherwise as well...very light, super alignment and cosmetics...the sec hand is 95%+ on the markers all the time (just some minor drift every now and then), the crown is A+++, the lume as well. i'm a classic dive watch collector and lover going back to the Rolex sub, and many many 60s Swiss and Japanese models...and despite that i adore this case design. which means nothing really, as we all have our own tastes. but just to let you know that as a 35yr mechanical dive watch collector/seller/restorer i absolutely appreciate this case, as different as it is. this is a winner watch. lucky enough to get the version you show here from amazon for $261...i just lucked into it. but would have bought at $400, and been happy. by the way, the strap is super comfortable...me with a 7 1/4" wrist. hope that helps in your survey of what people think of the style.
I agree fantastic watch I was this over the seiko tuna or the 65 re interpretation diver but go this as it's not a seiko but a citizen so to me its unique and special more to me.
that is the perfect diving watch, i use in Australia for diving, perfect!!!
How is it compared to the Aqualand?
Im in love with this watch. Love it. It just looks so special.
Thanks for the review. I've had the watch for a week now and I like it. It's very comfortable, barely feel it on my wrist. It has a lot of character.
The 4 corners make it stand out among the vanilla divers 😊 Thank you for the review!
You've hit the nail on the head, when you say the look is polarizing. I can't speak for anyone else (obviously).... But I Love everything about it. You're also correct when you say Seiko could learn a thing or two about QC from Citizen. I currently own 18 eco drives and can honestly say, I've never had any issues. I also own a few Seikos and the build quality just ain't what it used to be. Still love em though. Great Review, as always... Cheers from the UK !!!
Picked up the blue version. Your quibbles about the date window and strap are 100% correct. Other than that, I'm loving this watch. What's funny is how small it looks because of the dial diameter. Your video and photos I've seen make it look huge, but it definitely doesn't feel that way. I was torn between this and a Seiko Tuna. Really glad I went with the Citizen. Your Bell & Ross comment is what I was thinking too. Also has a Luminox tactical watch feel. I picked this up for just under $400 and I think it's a bargain at that price point. Thanks for reviewing it!
Picked up one of these for my birthday recently. Gorgeous piece of kit. Very comfortable and accurate. The case feels like a mix of concrete and plastic, which is awesome.
The square, obviously gives the watch its own identity, sandblasted titanium gives the metal that weathered
metal look, too bad on the case back they didn't do anything more but as a tool watch I guess that's enough. Great video, a lot will like or dislike the look thank you for bringing it to the channel and review!
The gold or yellow details on hands and number markings remind me of my Casio watches of the 90's.
Great review. I have this watch and love it. As you say. The rubberband is little short. But the watch and quality control on Citizen is superb.
Thanks for the kind words.
Love the watch. Case looks retro. 👌. Every time I see a watch I like I always find that you've reviewed it. Same taste. Thanks for your awesome reviews!!!!
It's cool and ugly, I like it. Citizen loves crazy design choices.
The pseudonym "TORTOISE" is so fitting with this watch.
Draw an outline of a TORTOISE and you will see what I mean.
The crown is the head and the 4 corners are the stubby legs of a TORTOISE.
I love the watch but I would have to swap the minute hand with a red or orange SEIKO TURTLE PADI hand to make it pop.
450 is a 3rd of what a TUNA would cost.
It's an eccentric timepiece
i'm glad that we got to see the hang tag.
The Citizen Ti-Fighter would be a great nickname for this watch
Great name, that’s what I’m going to call it now 🙂👍🏼
Agreed, great nickname!
Xwing
You know I am a part of the Citizen squad.
I like it because its different, a homage to the original.I do prefer the color you reviewed.I have 3 promomasters, 1 of them is a limited edition.They are all keepers, love them.
I like it! It's unique and simple enough in design but truly rugged looking as well. That will most definitely be my next watch purchase, Citizen No. 7 to be exact. It reminds me of the Dark Knight gear. "I'm Batman!" 🦇
I love it! It is super light, especially compared to my Ecozilla. But I love them both!
I will waiting for Citizen titanium diver 5503 (300m and 800m) remake !!!
Thanks for the back story makes the review so much better than specs, lume shot and slapping it on your wrist.
My pleasure!
I like it. I’ve worn a friend’s square Bell and Ross before. It was super comfortable.
Christ!!!!! That’s gorgeous……
I purchased one for $325 and was excited to get it. I’m on the fence with its overall size. I’m a big guy (6’7” 245) and it just feels too small. To be honest, thanks to the weight (or lack of) it feels like a very expensive toy. I expected (due to reviews) some massive beast of a watch. It’s like wearing a 80’s swatch.
Sounds like you should've listened to the stats.
Must... must have this gorgeous case. Subscribed !
Agree, the case looks like a turtle, with the crown being the head, I've been looking at the full line dial version of this.
Thanks for the sub!
13:00 on the wrist, it looks like a turtle heading towards your fingers 😁
It sure does...lol.
They also made an 800m version to go with the 1300m back in the 80s . I had one. It had gas permeable o rings so didn't need a helium escape valve. The modern one your reviewing has a durinox coating on the grade 5 titanium so should be less prone to scratches.
Good review, especially digging out the original 1300m watch. It was a very rare beast indeed. Used by Saturation divers.
Love the case , just ordered one
Beautiful watch
Just bought one blue face love it.
Wow. This citizen is super cool 😍
Like the case as it stands out from the standard diver that is boring after awhile. Looks rugged. It is probably over done to some extent. Can't you apply something to soften up the strap?
I love this watch!!!! I got a citizen titanium wr 200, and its over 30 yrs old and it's still very accurate... I'll buy the blue one soon... Lol....
I kinda like it. Not sure how it would fit on my 7.5 inch wrist tho...
I tried the blue model on my wrist Im not a big fan of the square case's but I like this one ..
Interesting and I like it.
Thought I would hate it based on photos alone. I could see it growing on me but doubt I would choose this over something else. I do love the huge handset on a quartz watch.
I just picked up one of these last weekend the blue whale shark limited edition and it has not left my wrist since and that's saying a lot as I have over 20 dive watches in my collection... absolutely love it
The square case doesn't work for an every day watch but if the watch is going to be used by divers, specifically for diving, it's all good.
At 5:55 the seconds hand skipped.
Check out the limited edition whale shark version of this watch has got a very cool whale shark design on the back of the case since you're a fan of case designs on the back LOL
A great opportunity to engrave the caseback the way you like. I think more watches have that chance
Eco Drive was invented way back in the 70's (1976) so I'm guessing that they weren't yet confident in the relatively new tech to put it in a high priced diver. Very interesting watch and possibly a Tuna alternative? Thanks 👍🏻
picked one up for $170 on sale. great watch, great value for money. wears alot smaller than the case size would indicate plus being titanium wears very light on the wrist.
where did you picked yours up for 170?
@@buckrogers5429 it was on sale at h.samuel in the UK £195 plus an extra 20% which took it to £159. Which was $170 at the time.
i like it but i wish strap code would make some bracelets for it because i feel like it would look so cool on like an endmill or something
Bad ass watch
Checked few of these yesterday- it didn’t click for me. The shape 🤷🏼♂️. Amazing pieces all though
It’s kind of like the Seiko Tuna. Kind of ugly, but purpose built and oddly kind of cool. I kind of like the robust look and tool vibe of the case. It wouldn’t be a daily wear, but for its intended purpose, I like it.
Nice review... $450 is a bit steep imho. My Orca was around $200, its kind of the same thing functionally. But no doubt its very unique.
Love your review and ...Yes you are absolutely correct looks like a Bell & Ross kind of thing ...and way too small on a decent size wrist ...THX again
buen video lo recibi ayer por amazon increible rolej estoy encantado y aparte muy orginal gracias por este increible video mencanta el modelo 1300 m GRACIAS
¡Eres muy bienvenido!
Relogio fantástico ! Qualidade e design retro ! Adorei este mesmo modelo ! Mostrador tipo lixa ! Show.
Translation:
Fantastic watch! Quality and retro design! I love this model! Sandpaper type display!
Helpful review. I like Citizen's dive watches, already wear an ecozilla with aftermarket lugs, a titanium mechanical diver (nb6004-83e), and a thinner titanium eco-drive diver. Eyed this on and off for a while, and with the all-in price under $250, just purchased. I'm also a happy seiko tuna wearer, so this should work fine. Interesting comment about the watch feeling small - I have an 8 1/4 inch wrist and am intrigued to see how it wears.
I also just got mine for a very, very good price. Came in yesterday and I am very happy with it, especially in regards to overall quality which is top-notch and suggests a more expensive piece. Wears much smaller than one would assume and is rather lightweight. A keeper.
Are you going to review the NB6004-83E ? I see a few others online but I like your videos and would love to see you review it.
Love it.
I like the case design, but it's the size, Citizen's website quotes it at 47mm, to be polite it's just a little too big! Fair enough if it had the same depth rating as the original it would be understandable. It should have been 42mm with 20 - 22mm lugs, I'd probably have paid up for that imaginary version!
It wears like a 42mm watch.. don't let the measurements put you off, similar vibe to a Seiko tuna. I just purchased mine for £159.. some great prices available now.
The only negative about this watch - price
What style of crown is this ? Very industrial
I love it!
Beautiful! Why no sapphire? 😢
Because it probably would've driven up the price 🤷♂️
Because it's a dive watch. Sapphire is harder to scratch, hardened mineral is harder to break. If you are underwater and depend on your watch, would you have the crystal rather be scratched or broken?
Also, on all Citizen divers I know the crystal is recessed, so it's pretty hard to scratch anyway.
Excelente video 😀.
I’m picking up the Citizen Promaster SST in Black and Red, $670.00 Canadian.
Have you considered or are you going to review the citizen CB5921-59X promaster land? Think it would be the first on the internet.
My new favourite watch my new favourite dive watch move over tuna.
It’s crazy how expensive that original version was at the time with a quartz movement they must have spent a ton of money on tooling and R&D i personally love retro dive watch reissues from a variety of brands so I like the new modern reinterpretations I haven’t really got to look at this one up close until now these dials might be some of the coolest I’ve seen from citizen I am also on the fence I like the eco drive although I wouldn’t have minded a 4 hertz myiota either but oh well and I like the fact they got rid of the date function and moved the crown to 3 o clock but I really wish they would have kept the screws I’m sure a lot of people like that they got rid of them but I love seeing hardware on the outside of my tool watches it just screens function over form. Same with the QC never had a problem with citizen I’ve bought Seikos for $1k plus and had the bezel not be aligned I have cheap pro masters less than $200 the bezel action is phenomenal and all my pro masters have milled claps most with ratcheting dive extensions your going to have to pay 4-5 times as much for a seiko I still can’t quit them I have a box full bod them and maybe 6-7 citizens Maybe I’ll flip a coin on it 🤣
Quartz was still well respected when this watch first came out and (If I remember correctly) was not only more desirable than auto but in many cases rather pricey in the early 80s. It's only after the Swiss revival that the average consumer began to see automatic as superior.
Why would they not use sapphire . That is the reason why I will not be getting this.
Sapphire isn't always the best material to use. Especially in dive watches.
@@maverickwatchreviews OK if you say so, but I’d rather have it
@@CaptGus It’s true. Sapphire crystal has a tendency to shatter when hitting against something hard due to sapphire being brittle. Mineral glass tends to flex more when hitting against something hard.
With that being said, I’d prefer sapphire crystal as well.
I like it , but , wouldn't purchase one . Nice review 👍
Me neither :)
Citizen watches are growing unnecessarily large.
Auto date and day please .
Yeah that square shape does not do it for me either…
diameter case mm??
46mm
"Don't know if the actual case back needed to be changed back then..."
Are you joking?
Mine has a quality control issue. The second hand doesn't hit app teh tick marks. At first it bothered me but I got over it. After all, you're only going to quickly glance at the dial so it's whatever. I do enjoy the black dial though. Overall it's a cool watch. I love it, inaccurate second hand and all.
That’s not a QC issue. There are luxury quartz in the thousands of dollars that don’t hit the marks on the dial. That’s just normal for many Quartz movements. It doesn’t effect time keeping.
i like it
Not a fan of square case.. Great review though
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Get out of your comfort zone. Get crazy and wear stuff you wouldn't normally wear.
I might just do that :)
I like how you think brother.
The watch is small for your wrist??…Um perhaps start buying Invicta watches..ug.
Shame it’s far too big👿
Sadly the flat gray color give the wrong looks to the watch, kind of a plumbing nut.
Slamming the theme music into my speakers earned you a thumb DOWN. You need to balance your audio levels.
My audio levels are fine. You need to turn DOWN your speakers. Your comment annoys me.
🤣
I like Citiezen, but I think the watch is Ugly
If it came in an automatic, I'd be on it. Quartz? Not so much...
That's just dumb.
Yawn
Prefer the OG, new version overpriced imo for what you get.
Can't see wearing this one in any situation.. just too big and bizarre.
Its a professional tool watch.My uncle only wear this when he goes for underwater weld
Dive computers are bigger and bulkier than this.
first
This may well be the ugliest watch I have ever seen.
Have you seen an Invicta?
Might need stronger glasses mate
@@maverickwatchreviews 🤣
@@maverickwatchreviews I saw one...now I cant see anymore.
@@maverickwatchreviews 🤣
Gotta be one of the ugliest case designs ever created
But also coolest.
Ugly….and it’s quartz. No way!
Its a dive watch, not a dress one. And she is perfect at it
I like the square case and color. You just said nobody needs 100m on a watch. You and I ... Maybe not... But there's professional divers that do and that's what Citizen sells, as much as other brands sell the concept, which is nice to have. I'm putting a link here for these guys, sponsored by Citizen. One of them is Ben Reymenants. He goes down to 200m and loves that Citizen surpasses that depth. Having said that most of the legit divers I know either use Citizen, Seiko, or the dive computer with no backup watch. Here's the link, I know you'll enjoy it. ua-cam.com/video/Vg7VvHNcXBA/v-deo.html