Super! Showed me everything I needed to do the job all by myself! At age 54, I feel all the accomplishment of a toddler who has managed a spoonful of food!
Undoubtedly one of the best descriptions of its kind I've seen, apart from two things:- 1) The bursts of music are disproportionately loud - Some people WOULD find it unpleasant. Please consider this if re-making, or in future instructionals. 2) The joke ......Whe'll, have to allow that one.
Always been a task that I felt was best left to a bike shop(in both efficiency and safety terms). Having watched this video, I actually reckon I could give it a go.... (although truing is still a dark art in my eyes!)
That's a genius idea about using the old spoke to refit the nipple. I am going to use this method in future. I've had nightmares in the past trying to get the nipples back in. Thanks, very much appreciated.
Your explanation about tightening spokes in order to pull the rim in the direction of where the spoke originates on the hub I find is much clearer here than in the other wheel-truing videos. The visual representation aids in this as well.
@@notundermywatch3163 Im googling this stuff and I'm stuck myself at the step of buying more and more tools to disassemble the rear wheel. both disk brakes and cassette must be removed in order to replace the spokes.
Been watching you guys for years. Helped me so many times like now. Dummy me, of course...put the nipple on a short spoke piece to get it through a deep rim properly! Why didn't I think of that, ha. thanks so much guys!
Nice video. If you ever visit this subject again, I recommend providing a little more guidance with regard to spoke tension. Obviously, with a beginner-level "How To" video of this sort, you won't want to get into tension meters. But you could suggest that the user pluck the "good" spokes like a string on a guitar to hear their tone. Then tighten the new spoke until it produces the same tone (less tension for a lower tone, more tension for a higher tone). It's a very simple method to adjust spoke tension. If you suggest this technique, remember to alert the user that many rear wheels have different spoke tensions between the left and right sides -- so the user should only pluck and listen to spokes on the same side of a rear wheel.
***** Yes, I'm well aware of that. But the subject of this beginner-level video is not truing a wheel. Rather it is replacing a spoke. If a rider needs to replace a spoke, they need to know that it also needs to be correctly tensioned. So it seems appropriate to explain that here -- after all, it is an essential step in replacing a spoke. Besides, the rider may have no intention of truing their own wheel -- what they need is to adequately repair it until they can get to their LBS. If they have any distance to ride, their wheel will be in better shape if they adjust the tension right away to prevent it going out of round -- or going out of round any worse.
I was going to try to fix my broken spoke myself but after watching this, I’ll let a pro do it. I do every thing else myself so I really don’t feel bad about it
Straight-pull is a type of spoke, not a lacing pattern-the other more common and basic type being the J-bend, where the head of the spoke is bent 90 degrees like an elbow. It's radial lacing where the spoke goes straight to the rim without crossing any other spokes-common on front wheels.
Thanks Guys, you really doing a great job with this maintenance series. It’s even more useful nowadays when finding a decent bike service can be a challenge..
When I replace a spoke, I mark it with a piece of tape to make sure that is the first spoke I adjust when truing the wheel. My goal is to only ever tension the new spoke to true-up the wheel because if there are other spokes out of tension then I really want to get it to the shop before I go messing things up worse than they were before I broke that spoke.
Great video. If you’re one of those people that has to be prepared for any potential bike failure like me, then you’ve taped a couple extra spokes inside your seat post 😆
Worth mentioning: If your wheel has 24 or less spokes, and is a shallow profile aluminum rim, chances are just replacing a broken spoke is going to leave you with a major high spot (vertical runout) on the rim. Due to the higher spoke tension of less spokes, the only option is to detension the whole wheel and build it back up - because low spoke rims have to be brought up to tension evenly.
Place some tape on the new spoke when its time to tighten the nipple and true the wheel. Makes it much easier to match the tension of the previous spoke if you dont lose track of the new one.
...A little bit harder with disk brakes! Also, if you bust a spoke on the road you can sort of compensate for it by just tightening the other spokes around it untilk you get home. It should ruin your rim less.
You chose to replace inside to outside spoke, which is the easiest. I want to see how you do it with a spoke replacement from outside to inside from the hub, of course without excessive bending
That was actually easier situation, it would be good to see if the spoke is from outside. I am struggling to bend spoke and it seems I need to remove few spokes just to put broken one.
I had trouble all summer because Of spokes... I broke 4 in The middle Of 4 different rides and on both wheels, i ended up working a month to pay myself new wheels (while riding in a friend's Bike)... Spokes are nightmare :-(
Getting nipple off a broken spoke is usually easy: just bend the broken spoke to get some leverage and use the spoke key on it. Getting a straight pull spoke out of the hub end on the other hand, is the nightmare, especially if the plastic parts have become hard with age.
Agreed. I am in this situation now. I assume you have to remove one of the spokes blocking your new spoke, get the new spoke in position, then reattach the moved spoke. But I have so much trouble with this I am not sure but seems logical. Road this bike for many years about 4K miles a year then started breaking spokes. Replaced many, new wheels, still broke spokes. I finally got a new bike which is not as good as this one. Trying to get the better one back on the road and of course first thing....replace a broken spoke. I am having difficulty removing the spoke that is in the way.
Si, one other very useful tool, for those with bladed spokes is a bladed-spoke-holder, such as www.parktool.com/product/bladed-spoke-holder-bsh-4. Using a spanner to keep your bladed spokes from twisting is tacky
Hey Simon, I actually remove spokes to lighten up my wheels. I have removed 4 from the front and 7 so far from the back. Definitely feel the difference on the climbing bits of my 3 mile commute to the job center. X hudlum
Great tutorial! 👍👍 🚲🚲 I have broken one spoke on the rear wheel of my hub motor electric bicycle. I measured the length of it from the inside of the elbow to the end of the thread and it is 70 mm. And I can not find a 70mm spoke for sale. They are ither 60 mm or 80 mm. So I ordered a few 80 mm and if it don't fit, I plan to shorten it with my angle grinder.
What about replacing spokes on factory wheels. How many of the GCN presenters and indeed the cycling community ride on 32 spoke 3-way cross wheels now?
How can I clean my brake surfaces on my wheels to get that nasty looking brake dust and dirt that has got stuck to it, its driving me insane looking at it on my best set of wheels.
clive ramsbotty oh its alloy, and I will try that, someone recommended me to try white spirit or a de-greaser that doesn't have a lubricant in it but I have not tried yet.
Yes that's good advice, I find you get better results with ether based spirits like brake cleaner or carb cleaner instead of white spirit... Some pound shops sell aerosol cans of brake cleaner if you go shopping. When I was a kid my brakes were squeaking so I put WD40 on them, no joke.
since when has + or - a couple of millimetres ever been accurate? Feeler gauges, blueing ink, micrometers, those are what spring to mind when hearing the word accurate.
+experiment54 Accurate depends on what you're measuring, although +or- 2 mm is not exactly accurate for spoke length, many other things don't require the methods you mentioned to be cut accurately.
Could someone please help? I have just a bought some look keo 2 pedals, changing from shimano. Do I just replace the shimano cleats for look ones in the same place? Thank you
lads... great detail... but holy shit... black hub,black spokes and black background makes this next to impossible for the newb... Maybe I'm wrong... love yir work but I feel this could have been a bit visually clearer.. x
Thanks for posting. I had a go and I'm having difficulty tightening the spoke (I've taken a video: ua-cam.com/video/8nUWWsLvOvE/v-deo.html). Please let me know how to resolve this problem!
Depends... spoke count is one measurement, but you also have spoke gauge, the amount of spoke tension built into the wheel, the type of spoke design, the hub flange dimensions (which effect strength through trigonometry), the rim material/design/size, etc.
Super! Showed me everything I needed to do the job all by myself! At age 54, I feel all the accomplishment of a toddler who has managed a spoonful of food!
Undoubtedly one of the best descriptions of its kind I've seen, apart from two things:-
1) The bursts of music are disproportionately loud - Some people WOULD find it unpleasant. Please consider this if re-making, or in future instructionals.
2) The joke ......Whe'll, have to allow that one.
Can we please just appreciate Simon's pun at the start of the video, "Broken spokes are a WHEEL nightmare"
Oh yeah, lol.
Groan
Always been a task that I felt was best left to a bike shop(in both efficiency and safety terms). Having watched this video, I actually reckon I could give it a go.... (although truing is still a dark art in my eyes!)
That's a genius idea about using the old spoke to refit the nipple. I am going to use this method in future. I've had nightmares in the past trying to get the nipples back in. Thanks, very much appreciated.
Your explanation about tightening spokes in order to pull the rim in the direction of where the spoke originates on the hub I find is much clearer here than in the other wheel-truing videos. The visual representation aids in this as well.
You picked the easy front wheel. Show us how to replace the broken spoke on a rear wheel - especially when the spoke is on the cassette side!
Just take the wheel off.
It literally makes zero difference wether it's front or back wheel as you'll take the wheel off either way
@@notundermywatch3163 Im googling this stuff and I'm stuck myself at the step of buying more and more tools to disassemble the rear wheel. both disk brakes and cassette must be removed in order to replace the spokes.
Agreed
You have to remove the cassette to replace the spoke if it’s on that side.
Been watching you guys for years. Helped me so many times like now. Dummy me, of course...put the nipple on a short spoke piece to get it through a deep rim properly! Why didn't I think of that, ha. thanks so much guys!
this guy is the goat.
Si will be honoured 🤣
Nice video. If you ever visit this subject again, I recommend providing a little more guidance with regard to spoke tension. Obviously, with a beginner-level "How To" video of this sort, you won't want to get into tension meters. But you could suggest that the user pluck the "good" spokes like a string on a guitar to hear their tone. Then tighten the new spoke until it produces the same tone (less tension for a lower tone, more tension for a higher tone). It's a very simple method to adjust spoke tension. If you suggest this technique, remember to alert the user that many rear wheels have different spoke tensions between the left and right sides -- so the user should only pluck and listen to spokes on the same side of a rear wheel.
***** Yes, I'm well aware of that. But the subject of this beginner-level video is not truing a wheel. Rather it is replacing a spoke. If a rider needs to replace a spoke, they need to know that it also needs to be correctly tensioned. So it seems appropriate to explain that here -- after all, it is an essential step in replacing a spoke. Besides, the rider may have no intention of truing their own wheel -- what they need is to adequately repair it until they can get to their LBS. If they have any distance to ride, their wheel will be in better shape if they adjust the tension right away to prevent it going out of round -- or going out of round any worse.
Thanks, that's a great, logical way of knowing that they have the same tension!
The How to... videos of GCN are always my favourites. Clear as ever, Simon! Thanks. :)
I was going to try to fix my broken spoke myself but after watching this, I’ll let a pro do it. I do every thing else myself so I really don’t feel bad about it
Straight-pull is a type of spoke, not a lacing pattern-the other more common and basic type being the J-bend, where the head of the spoke is bent 90 degrees like an elbow. It's radial lacing where the spoke goes straight to the rim without crossing any other spokes-common on front wheels.
These videos come in at the right time, just broke a spoke recently. :)
"Broken spokes are a 'wheel' nightmare" - Best joke of 2015 goes to.....
JOHN CENA!!!
Thanks Guys, you really doing a great job with this maintenance series. It’s even more useful nowadays when finding a decent bike service can be a challenge..
When I replace a spoke, I mark it with a piece of tape to make sure that is the first spoke I adjust when truing the wheel. My goal is to only ever tension the new spoke to true-up the wheel because if there are other spokes out of tension then I really want to get it to the shop before I go messing things up worse than they were before I broke that spoke.
you spoke to soon
His cool accent is worth the listen
too
The people have spoken
Wheelie immature..
Good one😆
What about threading the spoke from the outside? How do you negotiate the spokes on the other side when bending it towards the rum?
Great video. If you’re one of those people that has to be prepared for any potential bike failure like me, then you’ve taped a couple extra spokes inside your seat post 😆
Worth mentioning: If your wheel has 24 or less spokes, and is a shallow profile aluminum rim, chances are just replacing a broken spoke is going to leave you with a major high spot (vertical runout) on the rim. Due to the higher spoke tension of less spokes, the only option is to detension the whole wheel and build it back up - because low spoke rims have to be brought up to tension evenly.
Cheers mate! Epic video! This really helped!
yay :) finally a "new" video from GCN....... ;)
Front wheel is easy. But how do you replace the rear wheel spokes with cog in the way?
Cog/cassette needs to be removed.
My spokes never broke like that, they always snapped from the spoke screw 🤷♂️
"Broken spokes are a wheel nightmare", what a wheely good pun si.
Place some tape on the new spoke when its time to tighten the nipple and true the wheel. Makes it much easier to match the tension of the previous spoke if you dont lose track of the new one.
...A little bit harder with disk brakes!
Also, if you bust a spoke on the road you can sort of compensate for it by just tightening the other spokes around it untilk you get home. It should ruin your rim less.
You chose to replace inside to outside spoke, which is the easiest. I want to see how you do it with a spoke replacement from outside to inside from the hub, of course without excessive bending
What is the technique to replace the spoke if it is threaded from the outside ?
If I have more then 10or 15 broken spokes should I replace the rim or get new spokes
Thanks for this informative video!!
the gcn boys have the answer again, thanks guys :-)
So clear and helpful. Thanks
Thanks Simon for a very clear, helpful video. I learned a lot. Cheers.
Cheers man, saved me £50 from a bullshit repair job that was over priced!
I have two broken spokes how do you replace spokes when they need to be need to be threaded through from the outside ????
That was actually easier situation, it would be good to see if the spoke is from outside. I am struggling to bend spoke and it seems I need to remove few spokes just to put broken one.
I had trouble all summer because Of spokes... I broke 4 in The middle Of 4 different rides and on both wheels, i ended up working a month to pay myself new wheels (while riding in a friend's Bike)... Spokes are nightmare :-(
I Like how it ist allways so easy for them
Didn't know james Franco was a bike expert 🤔👍
Getting nipple off a broken spoke is usually easy: just bend the broken spoke to get some leverage and use the spoke key on it. Getting a straight pull spoke out of the hub end on the other hand, is the nightmare, especially if the plastic parts have become hard with age.
Hello GCN
Why do spokes get broken and does one spoke broken cause wobbling to the tyre???
I don't know if this has been already asked. But do you add a little Loctite to the thread?
No as the loctite would stop you from being able to turn the nipple.
How does this work for the other way round ???
3:30 Bro....! Thank you!
/Bklyn👑
Nicely done Si
Could I use that same tool for when my nipple starts chafing as well?
random question, has anyone tried some of kestrel's bikes? if so, how do they compare to a bianchi intenso?
Hey bro where can u buy that ruler form
This can be done without removing the wheel or tire. Remove the broken spoke thread in the new and screw in the other end.
Hahahahaha "a wheel nightmare" - SMOOTH YOU ARE 😎😎👍🏻👍🏻
why do number of spokes vary for different bikes?
Its super easy to thread a spoke from the inside of the hub. I was hopping he would show how to do the other way.
Agreed. I am in this situation now. I assume you have to remove one of the spokes blocking your new spoke, get the new spoke in position, then reattach the moved spoke. But I have so much trouble with this I am not sure but seems logical.
Road this bike for many years about 4K miles a year then started breaking spokes. Replaced many, new wheels, still broke spokes. I finally got a new bike which is not as good as this one. Trying to get the better one back on the road and of course first thing....replace a broken spoke. I am having difficulty removing the spoke that is in the way.
I wonder how you do it on a UST wheel...
GCN your videos are great, but black spokes, black hub and a black background really doesn't make it easy to see the detail :(
Si, one other very useful tool, for those with bladed spokes is a bladed-spoke-holder, such as
www.parktool.com/product/bladed-spoke-holder-bsh-4. Using a spanner to keep your bladed spokes from twisting is tacky
Hey Simon, I actually remove spokes to lighten up my wheels. I have removed 4 from the front and 7 so far from the back. Definitely feel the difference on the climbing bits of my 3 mile commute to the job center. X
hudlum
Take a shot every time he says nipple
Great tutorial! 👍👍 🚲🚲
I have broken one spoke on the rear wheel of my hub motor electric bicycle.
I measured the length of it from the inside of the elbow to the end of the thread and it is 70 mm.
And I can not find a 70mm spoke for sale. They are ither 60 mm or 80 mm.
So I ordered a few 80 mm and if it don't fit, I plan to shorten it with my angle grinder.
Wish your spoke had been outside in, and on rear wheel with the cluster in the way so I could see what the trick is to that! But thanks.
Nice & Thanks :)
What about replacing spokes on factory wheels. How many of the GCN presenters and indeed the cycling community ride on 32 spoke 3-way cross wheels now?
On my wheel, the "nipple" has disappeared and I just have the spoke hmm
I've got a local bike shop where a spoke costs the price of the whole wheel
How can I clean my brake surfaces on my wheels to get that nasty looking brake dust and dirt that has got stuck to it, its driving me insane looking at it on my best set of wheels.
+ThatWolffe use brake cleaner, rub down the rim, dont touch if carbon
clive ramsbotty oh its alloy, and I will try that, someone recommended me to try white spirit or a de-greaser that doesn't have a lubricant in it but I have not tried yet.
Yes that's good advice, I find you get better results with ether based spirits like brake cleaner or carb cleaner instead of white spirit... Some pound shops sell aerosol cans of brake cleaner if you go shopping. When I was a kid my brakes were squeaking so I put WD40 on them, no joke.
clive ramsbotty will see if I can find something in one of the nearby pound shops then :P
Just tighten the spoken tighten the spoke until feels as tight as the spokes bext to it, generally speaking that should be fine.
Nothing more enjoyable than watching Si poke his nipple.
Is this a new series how to fix your bike ???
love it
since when has + or - a couple of millimetres ever been accurate? Feeler gauges, blueing ink, micrometers, those are what spring to mind when hearing the word accurate.
+experiment54 Accurate depends on what you're measuring, although +or- 2 mm is not exactly accurate for spoke length, many other things don't require the methods you mentioned to be cut accurately.
you sound like my girlfriend talking about length. an inch/few cm here or there, it's all relative enough...
thechosendude I'm sure she would appreciate a few extra inches no matter how relative length is, after all that's quite a 'rod'.
Very true
People say truing your tire is ez pz. I'm over here looking at it as if im learning how to fly a plane.
Broken spoke is not a 'wheel nightmare' it is a 'wheel pain in the ass', Lol
Me working at the local bike shop watching this video 🌚
heard at the start: broken spokes are a "wheel" nightmare
I managed to break three of the spoke eyelets on one wheel. guess it's time for a new wheel.
I wouldn't call this easy though.
Could someone please help?
I have just a bought some look keo 2 pedals, changing from shimano.
Do I just replace the shimano cleats for look ones in the same place?
Thank you
yeah but do i just replace the old cleats with the new ones or do i need them re fitted
Great teacher but I can't listen to the vocal fry in the voice
lads... great detail... but holy shit... black hub,black spokes and black background makes this next to impossible for the newb... Maybe I'm wrong... love yir work but I feel this could have been a bit visually clearer.. x
Poking device? Lmao
You saved my few €€
EVERY VIDEO SKIPS SHOWING THEM WEAVE THE SPOKE IN!
'Straight pull': NO, SIMON! you mean 'Radial'! Mmm, getting straight pull bladed spokes in the right length without ordering them? Good luck!
Is it just me or is this guy harder to follow than other guys?
Doesn't mention how to pick the right spoke. The hardest part
Hi GCN
I call it my Lincoln
Broken spokes are a wheel knightmare? Wheeley?
Why wallow your poor vocal chords around the bottom of your register the whole video?? HIRE A VOICE COACH!
Today i suffered from a broken spoke
A broken spoke is a wheel issue.
2nd
+Rixter 269th
+Levi Bikely I rarely get a podium spot, so I gotta take it when I can ;-)
2nd place just denotes the first loser
all I heard was "nipple"........Better watch it again.......
Thanks for posting. I had a go and I'm having difficulty tightening the spoke (I've taken a video: ua-cam.com/video/8nUWWsLvOvE/v-deo.html). Please let me know how to resolve this problem!
Nipple count goes through the roof you dirty boy
4th
Should fatties like me worry about a spoke count or similar when buying a wheel?
I'm going to get a penny farthing .
Depends... spoke count is one measurement, but you also have spoke gauge, the amount of spoke tension built into the wheel, the type of spoke design, the hub flange dimensions (which effect strength through trigonometry), the rim material/design/size, etc.
Simon Freed the Nipple I'm this video.
100-th