For those looking for some actual benchmark numbers here is a little set of numbers for you. They show that the Pi 4 is between 1.8x and 9.1x faster than the Pi 3+, depending on the workload: ** Boot Linux under Angel RISC-V emulator Pi 3+ - 44 seconds Pi 4 - 14 seconds == Pi 4 is 3.1x faster ** Threadtesttool / 4 threads / 1250000 primes Pi 3+ - 3.7 seconds Pi 4 - 1.6 seconds == Pi 4 is 2.3x faster ** openssl speed sha1 Pi 3+ - 16 bytes / 16198.43k - 8192 bytes / 107115.86k Pi 4 - 16 bytes / 31303.51k - 8192 bytes / 198219.09k == Pi 4 is 1.9x / 1.8x faster ** benchmark.js (benchmarkjs.com) Pi 3+ RegExp#test x 2,460,424 ops/sec String#indexOf x 105,894,997 ops/sec String#match x 1,366,866 ops/sec Pi 4 RegExp#test x 8,119,813 ops/sec String#indexOf x 443,309,019 ops/sec String#match x 5,828,319 ops/sec == RegExp#test Pi 4 is 3.3x faster == String#indexOf Pi 4 is 4.1x faster == String#match Pi 4 is 4.2x faster ** golang benchmarks github.com/davecheney/fib Pi 3+ - 16.3 ns/op Pi 4 - 5.04 ns/op == Pi 4 is 3.2x faster stackimpact.com/blog/practical-golang-benchmarks/ Pi 3+ BenchmarkParseBool 128 ns/op BenchmarkSort1000000 1371455127 ns/op BenchmarkEncode 30392 ns/op Pi 4 BenchmarkParseBool 14.7 ns/op BenchmarkSort1000000 721110165 ns/op BenchmarkEncode 7879 ns/op == BenchmarkParseBool Pi 4 is 9.1x faster == BenchmarkSort1000000 Pi 4 is 1.9x faster == BenchmarkEncode 7879 Pi 4 is 3.8x faster
I am almost certain it took you longer to type all this than it would have to simply make a chart in a spreadsheet and show it in the video. That said, thanks anyways.
@@thenoseplays2488 For sure it did. I just didn't think people wanted such detailed reporting on the performance. I assume most people would be happy with my conclusion that it is 3x faster. The funny thing is that in the past when I included such details there were loads of complaints about why am I including all this synthetic benchmark stuff. I just can't win!
Well, three times faster is completely fine, I bet some people were expecting more (I saw some getting really excited for it on Spanish forums, the hype I suppose).
This guy explaining is great. No sound effects or screaming. Just straight information with some nice examples given on screen throughout to highlight what was being said. Thank you, you've earned a subscriber.
For existing Raspberry Pi users, please note that you will need to upgrade more than just the board. First of all, you will need a different case as the ports are slightly different. Likewise, you will need a new power cable (USB-C) and HDMI cable(s) (micro-HDMI)
I can confirm that the Pi 4 does support 4k H265 perfectly, LibraELEC have an image out with Pi4 support. Theres also talk of HDR support on the way. I don't think the versions of Kodi and VLC on Raspian Buster are properly optimised.
@@GaryExplains I imagine it's to do with VLC not using the NEON instruction set correctly, even on earlier iterations the pi would struggle to play even 1080p video in 'software mode' but players like omxplayer would run them perfectly fine as they offloaded the video stream to the hardware decoding on the chip.
Recent software upgrades have dramatically reduced the overheating problem. Most heavy users will still want to add active cooling or install it in one of the newer heatsink cases. Additional processing power inevitably produces more heat.
Yay Gary made a Pi4 review. 😁 You just know this is actually going to contain all the useful information we want. 😍 Clicks notification, (spots it's 17min long), (massive smile 😁). Thanks Gary, your the best. 😁 Have a great day, peace. ✌️
You can see a test in the video and the developers already work on the RPi4 for 6 months. I guess they know this device. Higher bitrate still doesnt work quite good and the software has a lot of rough edges. I'm waiting to see the results which bitrates the RPi can handle in the end.
If you just want one for tinkering and projects you're better off with the Zero or A+. Much less power usage which is great for battery and solar powered and they are smaller and you're most likely running headless anyway. I know the zero is fine for camera surveillance boards. Now for a router, the 4 would be the thing.
Don't confuse "doesn't do 4k video decoding" (14:26) with this OS not supporting hardware 4K decoding on a Raspberry Pi 4. The pi does do haitch 264 and haitch 265 hardware decoding.
According to the Raspberry Pi website the hardware does NOT support H.264 at 4K. Also don't confuse "doesn't do" with it "could do if...." At the moment it doesn't do it. Simple.
Don't as its not there are Arm boards available that scrape in the minimum of entry level desktop Pi4 doesn't manage irrespective of what they say. 4k two monitors is a joke when it can not play 1080p in a web browser, which it can not.
Yes, yes, yes! SBCs are starting to become really interesting for industrial applications, but 2GB is really a bare minimum, glad the Pi Foundation realized it!
14:24 gpu acceleration is disabled due to " the last minute discovery of a bug when playing video. We are actively trying to fix the issue." check the forums. (I don't know if you want urls in your comments)
This is one of the clearest and most helpful videos I've seen on the Raspberry Pi -- or on any technical subject on UA-cam for that matter. I gave up on the Pi 3 because it was so slow and am about to connect the Pi 4. Gary has given great encouragement to stick with it.
Finally an explanation of what a raspberry pi does and is. Watched 4 videos before this and still didn't know. A pi 4 may be in the mail headed towards my door.
Kudos! Gary, you are so good at what you do, which is explaining stuff. Additionally, you make everything super interesting. That is quite an ability! I have a Raspi 2, model B for playing around, but with Windows becoming a path I no longer want to go down, so the Raspi 4 seems like a GREAT alternative for my regular web surfing, plus my programming. Since my desktop is an old AMD Phenom II X4 955 I don't think it would be much of a step down. Mainly all i need to know is if the 4 has enough horsepower to render videos on youtube and that sort of thing. All good wishes! Of course I'm subscribed, and gave you thumbs-up. PS: I looked at the raspi 4 website, and that's very encouraging! Only $55 for the 4GB SDRAM model and i see that it has hardware Video decoding of HEVC video. [I don't know what that means, but it's GREAT!].
I didn't finish this review because a couple of things said at the beginning of the review were (I feel) a bit misleading. You can't say EVERYTHING will be three times faster because that is a huge generalization and doesn't take other things into account. Also, the main reason it can transfer at over 100MBps is because of the USB 3, USB 2 is not capable of that speed, but it wasn't mentioned until after the speed is talked about.
To answer your points. I have a complete set of benchmarks pinned at the top of the comments. It is indeed a generalization that everything is 3 times faster, because some things are 4 times faster. As for the 100Mbps, you seem to be forgetting thst the Pi 3+ had USB 3 and Gigabit Ethernet, but they couldn't realize their max potential due to the bus designs.
I had mine connected to a 4k TV and had problems displaying 4k content in VLC and from youtube in the chrome browser. However I installed Kodi and this was so much better with the 4k content. I believe that there is a known problem with the chrome browser and video at the moment but they are working on it. The Costa Rica 4k video ran on Kodi with the UA-cam plug-in with a small amount of tearing and buffering. This may have been my wireless or my internet connection.
Thanx Gary cool video didn't know anout 4K videos thanks for tip. I bought the Canakit and came with little fan, maybe that will help with the heat problem you mentioned.
That is the whole point isn't it, I shouldn't have to "try" anything and especially not alpha software. At the moment using the preinstalled version of VLC it doesn't work.
@@GaryExplains But thats the point you said, 'it doesnt do 4k video decoding' which isnt entirely true, Shawn is telling you it does, but you have to use something that supports it. I get your point though and im sure in time when everyone has got hold of these the support will be there.
@@Hybrid330i My point is that using the default software it doesn't work. Is my task to test the device and tell people what works and what doesn't work, or to make excuses?
@@GaryExplains Thanks for your videos, I do enjoy and appreciate them, I guess from a viewers point of view, when you said 'it doesnt do 4k video decoding' I had a heart sink moment as for me (and many others im sure) 4k hardware video decoding is a massive thing. When I read down a bit and saw Shawn said it did, it was a relief.
@@Hybrid330i I wouldn't get too happy yet. It ONLY supports it for H.265 and it is yet unknown at what bitrates. This means that for other codecs like VP9 or WebM or H.264, it won't work. So it very much depends on the source of your video and the bitrate. Saying it "supports" 4K needs lots of caveats.
I ve got one. Its really nice tinny box for desktop with raspbian os. I hope that the next version of Pi will have more RAM (8GB), stronger CPU and GPU, SATA interface.
You gonna find M.2 PCIe lanes or thunderbolt (USB 4.0 will be based on it) also with exposed PCIe lanes faster then SATA, ARM chips are mainly used for mobile devices so bearly any of them have SATA controllers + fact that there lot of SATA controlers for PCIe and USB theres no point really
while we wait for pi 4 cooling solutions to become available my temporary bodge was to just plug a USB powered fan into it and then sit the pi on the fan's cage. It moves a massive amount of air compared to the tiny bespoke fans and it turns out that it does the job so well I think I might build a case with the fan integrated to blow over a large passive heatsink (like the AAB Cooling NB Cooler 1).
Make your own heatsink from 1/4 inch scrap copper plate or aluminum and thermal epoxy. I've been doing it for years on some projects. My heatsinks might not win a beauty contest, but they have all worked. Forced air is always good..peace
Thanks for the overview and review! Seems like a no-brainer that you'd want to put it in an upgraded case with some heat sinks and a fan for any serious work - but at least those things are easily available as third-party add-ons..
I know these are low power, low profile products, why do we not have mSATA on these boards yet? I dont know much about that from factor but it would be interesting to see these get msata at least for faster load times.
I think that 8gb is safe zone in 2019/2020 but 4gb I'm not sure if it will be comfortable. Some Android devices have 12 gb but SDK run on 4? For bigger projects it's bad idea.
@@AparatorulPoporului Those are the download speeds I guess, my only advice would be to check the upload speeds and consistency because your upload speed becomes the download speed for those connecting to the server. Also check the terms and conditions of your service provider as some don't allow what you are proposing.
Gary please let me know if this Pi for can work with HP USB printer and scanner I'd like to purchase a few for a few elderly patient who have basic web email UA-cam and browsing needs but occasionally need to print something or scan something
Since the Pi OS "Raspberrian" is derived from Debian, I would expect it to support HP printers (and most other brands) with the same CUPS drivers that I use all the time to drive HP printers from Ubuntu Linux systems.
@@Protoscherge Why would u use Raspberry Pi for such hard core tasks. I'd recommend using Windows 10 (Presumably this is your current OS). I've been using Raspberry Pi 3A+ for data sciences. And some classic games (e.g Minecraft) and as a mini web browser. But, For some Ultra definition quality and video editing, -tweaking around, gaming etc I use Windows, And I don't think anyother alternative can beat that.
How about the audio? Previous Raspberry Pis did not have a very decent audio output via the audio jack. People who built audio streaming boxes had to add alternative sound cards. Did the RPi foundation upgrade the audio chip on the RPi 4?
Almost certainly not. If you ask one of their engineers about the DAC they'd probably wait for a minute to think what that was and say "oh yeah it does that too, sure!"
Gary, can I assume that the overheating issue you were having on the Pi 4 was the result of not having cooling sinks and a cooling fan on the board? GREAT vid, thx!
@Gary Explains I have a quick fix for your low voltage icon problem. 😉 (Also overclocking secret 😅). Use your OnePlus dash (warp is best) charger for your Pi. Fixed 5v😁 at 6a, (amps are drawn not pushed to Pi). So when your accessories/overclock, pulls amperage, your voltage doesn't sag because the power supply can supply the required amps. (If the power supply can't provide the amps, the volts sags. This gives you the warning, because voltage sagging below a certain point can damage the chipset's.) Equally don't go nuts and now pull tons of power through the board. 🤣 (The way I learned... "The blue smoke, of death". 🤦♂️😏). The trick is moderation. 😄 So I'd stay with using what you use at the moment (+ no sag, OPWarp😉), and never see the warning icon again. 😄 😏 Would still leave you a little room for overclocking, but do remember it's all "power through the board", you will need a thermal solution. 😉 If anyone actually reads this far, and is interested, I'll go find the exact model of Noctua 5v 40mm fan that I use. 😏😂 Even comes with all the adapters/crimps for wireing 😆 it to the 5v and ground on the gpio. 😉😎 Almost silent, (like hold it to your ear and it's a whisper) and moves enough air to easily keep the pi cool. 😊 (The fan is a solid rec to anyone, I've be gradually going round "pi/retro arcade UA-camrs" and turning them on to it. 😂 They all got me into pi in the first place, only fair I share back my good finds. 😉✌️I believe it was "Explaining computers", that has it in his Pi extreme cooling video if you want to check it out. 😊😉). Cheers to anyone who read this far, and have a great day. Peace. ✌️
@@kristinafraxx5808 good for you. I'll respectfully not include them in my reply to you, but it would be nice if you could actually contribute to the conversation with something related to the Pi...
@@KingsPhotographySolutions maybe if I were your girlfriend i would appreciate. sorry i no longer use computers so cant comment on that. Win XP, And Linux are my fav interfaces tho
Personally, I wish they used the Cortex A73 over the A72, the A73's logic design is quite a bit more power efficient which keeps it from hitting thermal limits as often as the A72. Even the 28nm process is fairly old, they should've went with a cheap fin fet process. I'm wondering if the current lack of 4k hardware decode is simply a software roadblock.
I’m trying to hook up two different monitors they both work but It’s only mirrored the hdmi 1. I’m using the pi4 running the latest raspberriam . Any help thanks
How would this board stand up to an Asus tinker board? I picked up a tinker board when they were sold out of Pi 4s, and now I'm looking at them as a comparison. Also have you reviewed the Tinker board?
1:00 You don't need ventilation? As your heat reference at 15:30 indicates it gets hot. Reviews already with it under a heat camera beg to differ (as in using it under load such as those dual 4k video outputs). It (Pi4) should have come with a heatsink as standard, not a mere option. It is (quote) _"uncomfortably hot"_ when doing any decent work (not even thrashing it - just video like not even a movie duration). Ironic how there is a heatwave when it launches. It is a prebuilt system board with an operating system called "noobs" (or raspbian) indicating it is for people who are learning (noobs), not just experts. The official keyboard mouse case bundle has a case that traps in heat. Personally I think if they were going for a larger board anyway, they could have made it a lot larger and thereby made a case that is bigger with better space to keep it cool. I'd have opted for a 8core or dual quad running lower and underclocked, not largely about making 4k dual video out as a priority. A larger board with it doing 8way parallel processing could have helped students learning about blake2sp and basic polynomials (which some GCSE maths students read about in revision guides between GCSE math and AS or ALevel maths, even if they only wish to do quadratic equations at GCSE). A bigger case and board being twice an old Pi3, like two side by side, like other brands can mean a square fan could have gone on it if desired. The a53 has been described as server class (and a bunch get used). The a72 is described as mobile device class. Dual quad a53 (like a humble parallel server) or octa-core would have made server sense, let alone a computer module breakout edge connector like say the turing board but with over 8 slots, not just 7. Turing (the father of computing) was largely famous when about encryption and blake2sp would have been a good learning situation with 8way parallel. It need not be the fastest board for that. It is about learning. Even if they did not go that route (a53 or octacore), the heat it has and its lack of ventilation in a case they want to get extra revenue from is a poor show when they could have prioritised cooling to be "enough" (i.e. don't make the board hot, and spread it over a different CPU setup and put in a better heatsink). A counterargument some might try to make be that they are selling it at a loss. However some people would rather have a board by a different brand that does the right things and costs more (which they may or may not end up using headless). A dose of plague might be 50p but it does not make the purchase good value. People use clusters of boards too so the board shape and its heat problems on the pi4 might get in the way of that with its a72 dominating the cooling space in a case with its hot a72 spreading heat over the PCB when people have to put in a heatsink. The Pi's website shops (of recommended sellers) has a tiny _"optional heatsink"_ and it will confuse people who will then look fo a bigger one. A good heatsink should have been a standard and supplied (or just us a different chip and do not allude to dual 4k hdmi, Pi). Those hdmi ports will snap like Kofi Annan famously breaking and winding a _OneLaptopPerChild XO_ computer charge handle. And the _"case and keyboard mouse"_ bundle does not give breakout _"mini to female hdmi"_ to convert and keep them safe but foolishly has two hdmi that suggest plugging straight into a monitor. People (kids and gutted parents alike) will plug that Pi4 straight into two HDMI screens to run 4k and then see the thing overheat and fail to understand why bad consequences occur. When little Timmy and Tammy plug in their Pi, tech nerds saying _"you get what you pay for"_ will anger the parents or the silver-surfer. It's not even as if the board currently having more support is an argument as with the Pi3 (which is supported). Debian and BSD and RISCOS (for video issues) and Ubuntu are not "properly" out for Pi4 yet. Or amibian and the media centre stuff.
Have you heard about the issue with the rasberry pi 4? Apparently using it at its highest resolution can interfere with wifi. What are your thoughts on that
No. I'm new to all this and thinking about getting a pi4, is this something I should really consider? Just looking for a small data viewer, pics, vids.
@@thinkright5611 I'm new to it as well!! I was given one for christmas and I am pretty stoked over it. I was reading further and that a firmware update was released for it in Nov :]
Just ordered the RPi 4B to replace my 3B with defective wifi. I hope the wifi is half decent in this version. On my 3B (NOT 3B+) the wifi controller stopped working after a month. The hardware vanished. Using mine for OctoPi with some advanced plugins that are a bit intensive for a SKR Pro 1.1 board.
I want to replace my everyday PC usage etc playing movies,youtube,facebook,some older games too maybe etc with something that wont draw that much power as my Computer,Is this suitable or is there anything else that is more suitable for the purpose?
It depends on your exact usage, but my guess is that It will still struggle with some of those, specifically UA-cam and older games (if they are for Windows).
Will you do a video on your performance testing please. I've done some basic testing of my RPi 4 against my RPi3 B+ and I am only seing a 15% increase. not 2x 3x or even 4x that everyone keeps reporting. Ta :)
Gary Explains The 3x faster claim is probably transfer speeds on the USB 3 and ethernet not performance of the CPU. There's no way this is even twice as fast as the 3B. 15% in real performance sounds right to me.
@@RmnGnzlz No, the CPU performance is 3x. For example running the Angel RISC-V emulator takes 44 seconds to boot on a Pi 3. It takes just 14 seconds on a Pi 4. 11 seconds on a RockPro64.
Everyone comments that the RPI 4 runs hot, requiring everyone to spend extra money for heat sinks. Well, surprise, you needed to do this with the other RPI versions as well, that is unless you are hardly doing any work, which in that case you could have saved a few bucks and used an RPI zero. My biggest complaint about the RPI 3B+ and earlier is the whimpy micro USB port for power. Plug in nearly any USB device and you get a power shortage lightning bolt. The RPI 4 has a USB-C port, which is spec'd for more power. We'll see if it works better. I have a CAN bus display in my car ran off a RPI 3B, it should be a little faster with RPI 4 and more RAM should help, now to figure out where to put another 7" waveshare..
Thank you for that nice and informational vidio, as I am just testing the Pi4 myself it was very helpfull as I am looking for good stuff for my gradchildren.
you probably need to update kernel (which has also drivers) and also system configuration, generly OS itself, the applications themselves should work without problem as long they compiled for ARM
@@ShadowriverUB Thanks for the input. I'm mostly looking to run a retropie build, just a mounted image file on an sd card.. Maybe a libreelec kodi build on another sd card as well..
That's not possible in terms of general use. For specialised tasks like certain simulations that can be run in parallel, combining multiple RP4s is an option, though. General compute tasks (like running desktop applications) cannot share resources like RAM or CPU-cores across multiple machines and thus wouldn't benefit at all from such combination.
4k decoding is not present means we can't watch 4k UA-cam, Netflix,etc video on that ? I am planning to buy that but if it will not play 4k online video then not...
@@battmarn lol Yer true.. Perhaps a x1 or x4 slot would be good though.. Or even thunderbolt which has a x4 PCIe 3.0 connection through it.. Thunderbolt GPU enclosure plus raspberry Pi would be cool.
4k 60Hz is supported by the GPU but the programs, i.e. most videoplayers, webbrowsers and such do not use the hardware-acceleration in the GPU yet. With a little luck the programs will soon be updated to the new videocore.
If the hardware is as capable as claimed, then yes it is a software issue. But only supporting H.265 and not H.264, VP9 or WebM means that 4K support is limited at best.
i assume the gigabit ethernet shares with the 5GBPS from USB3? (as do maybe does other stuff on there that's internally wired to the usb3 bus where they were on the usb2 bus before?) you'll probably mention it somewhere in these 17 minutes also, i'm kind of in the market for a SBC that can sync laptop monitor connection like them 30-pins without bulky converters, i got some laptop screens, and 30-pin connector is pretty standardized, right? i could imagine there is standardized hardware you could program without being specific to 1 panel? 3 times faster you say? i like having rudamentary setups to code some stuff on and play some emulators when i'm visiting friends that have a spare monitor, this will be a very welcome friend.
I would say while it isn't required, I recommend a fan and heatsink. As for OC, this isn't something you want to over clock... This is a project board used for server applications and custom programs. If you are in need of higher clock speeds, the Pi's are not for you.
Boot up from usb 3.0; 8 gigs ram via an expansion board. A ChromeOS compliance top/expansion board, so that it can run official ChromeOS, plus any other Operating system you need.
For those looking for some actual benchmark numbers here is a little set of numbers for you. They show that the Pi 4 is between 1.8x and 9.1x faster than the Pi 3+, depending on the workload:
** Boot Linux under Angel RISC-V emulator
Pi 3+ - 44 seconds
Pi 4 - 14 seconds
== Pi 4 is 3.1x faster
** Threadtesttool / 4 threads / 1250000 primes
Pi 3+ - 3.7 seconds
Pi 4 - 1.6 seconds
== Pi 4 is 2.3x faster
** openssl speed sha1
Pi 3+ - 16 bytes / 16198.43k - 8192 bytes / 107115.86k
Pi 4 - 16 bytes / 31303.51k - 8192 bytes / 198219.09k
== Pi 4 is 1.9x / 1.8x faster
** benchmark.js (benchmarkjs.com)
Pi 3+
RegExp#test x 2,460,424 ops/sec
String#indexOf x 105,894,997 ops/sec
String#match x 1,366,866 ops/sec
Pi 4
RegExp#test x 8,119,813 ops/sec
String#indexOf x 443,309,019 ops/sec
String#match x 5,828,319 ops/sec
== RegExp#test Pi 4 is 3.3x faster
== String#indexOf Pi 4 is 4.1x faster
== String#match Pi 4 is 4.2x faster
** golang benchmarks
github.com/davecheney/fib
Pi 3+ - 16.3 ns/op
Pi 4 - 5.04 ns/op
== Pi 4 is 3.2x faster
stackimpact.com/blog/practical-golang-benchmarks/
Pi 3+
BenchmarkParseBool 128 ns/op
BenchmarkSort1000000 1371455127 ns/op
BenchmarkEncode 30392 ns/op
Pi 4
BenchmarkParseBool 14.7 ns/op
BenchmarkSort1000000 721110165 ns/op
BenchmarkEncode 7879 ns/op
== BenchmarkParseBool Pi 4 is 9.1x faster
== BenchmarkSort1000000 Pi 4 is 1.9x faster
== BenchmarkEncode 7879 Pi 4 is 3.8x faster
Vlc does not support hardware decoding and will never support, you need to try it with MPV.
I am almost certain it took you longer to type all this than it would have to simply make a chart in a spreadsheet and show it in the video.
That said, thanks anyways.
@@thenoseplays2488 For sure it did. I just didn't think people wanted such detailed reporting on the performance. I assume most people would be happy with my conclusion that it is 3x faster. The funny thing is that in the past when I included such details there were loads of complaints about why am I including all this synthetic benchmark stuff. I just can't win!
Well, three times faster is completely fine, I bet some people were expecting more (I saw some getting really excited for it on Spanish forums, the hype I suppose).
Where's the rockpro64 vs pi 4b video?!?!?!
This guy explaining is great. No sound effects or screaming. Just straight information with some nice examples given on screen throughout to highlight what was being said. Thank you, you've earned a subscriber.
That's exactly Gary Explains.
Screaming? Who screams?
For existing Raspberry Pi users, please note that you will need to upgrade more than just the board. First of all, you will need a different case as the ports are slightly different. Likewise, you will need a new power cable (USB-C) and HDMI cable(s) (micro-HDMI)
Upvote! Might seem obvious, but still useful - I for one didn't consider the case.
dmpoulain 4K monitors😎
I can confirm that the Pi 4 does support 4k H265 perfectly, LibraELEC have an image out with Pi4 support. Theres also talk of HDR support on the way. I don't think the versions of Kodi and VLC on Raspian Buster are properly optimised.
You tested it?
Gary Explains Yes, tested it last night and it played perfectly.
@@domby8897 That is good news. I have read in other places that it still struggles with some H.265 4K files. Let's hope it comes to Raspbian soon.
@@GaryExplains I imagine it's to do with VLC not using the NEON instruction set correctly, even on earlier iterations the pi would struggle to play even 1080p video in 'software mode' but players like omxplayer would run them perfectly fine as they offloaded the video stream to the hardware decoding on the chip.
@@RonLaws No, not NEON. The SoC has a dedicated video processor for decoding video.
Recent software upgrades have dramatically reduced the overheating problem. Most heavy users will still want to add active cooling or install it in one of the newer heatsink cases. Additional processing power inevitably produces more heat.
Yay Gary made a Pi4 review. 😁 You just know this is actually going to contain all the useful information we want. 😍
Clicks notification, (spots it's 17min long), (massive smile 😁). Thanks Gary, your the best. 😁 Have a great day, peace. ✌️
This is fantastic! Thank You Gary!! The Pi 4 is supposed to decode 4k video in h264 and h265. It's probably a software issue since this is so new.
@@TecboyJones I tried with both H 264 and H 265. Neither work with the preinstalled version of VLC... so you know, I did check.
@Z3U5 According to the Raspberry Pi website those are NOT supported for 4K.
@@GaryExplains It supports 4k. See here: libreelec.tv/2019/06/libreelec-9-2-alpha1-rpi4b/
You can see a test in the video and the developers already work on the RPi4 for 6 months. I guess they know this device. Higher bitrate still doesnt work quite good and the software has a lot of rough edges. I'm waiting to see the results which bitrates the RPi can handle in the end.
@@Oberroxxor So 1) it is only h.265 in 4K and 2) it doesn't work today on Raspian. I am reporting what I tested, not what is being claimed.
Informative video. Please do cooling solutions in the future. Would love to see how many degrees it goes down. Thanks!
If you just want one for tinkering and projects you're better off with the Zero or A+. Much less power usage which is great for battery and solar powered and they are smaller and you're most likely running headless anyway. I know the zero is fine for camera surveillance boards. Now for a router, the 4 would be the thing.
I now have a better understanding of Raspberry Pi. Good teaching is important. Thanks for this explanation
Don't confuse "doesn't do 4k video decoding" (14:26) with this OS not supporting hardware 4K decoding on a Raspberry Pi 4. The pi does do haitch 264 and haitch 265 hardware decoding.
According to the Raspberry Pi website the hardware does NOT support H.264 at 4K. Also don't confuse "doesn't do" with it "could do if...." At the moment it doesn't do it. Simple.
I’ll get a couple 4gb versions. One for an emulation machine, and the other just to see how well ARM for desktop use is.
Don't as its not there are Arm boards available that scrape in the minimum of entry level desktop Pi4 doesn't manage irrespective of what they say.
4k two monitors is a joke when it can not play 1080p in a web browser, which it can not.
Great !
Finally Raspberry Pi Foundation is understanding the importance of options.. 4GB RAM option looks good
Good luck finding one in stock that is
@@dmhendricks ikr.. it sucks 😒😔😔
Yes, yes, yes! SBCs are starting to become really interesting for industrial applications, but 2GB is really a bare minimum, glad the Pi Foundation realized it!
You didn't get it, 1GB is plenty for hobbyists and most non-commercial headless applications.
Thank you Gary! Love your Channel! 😄
14:24 gpu acceleration is disabled due to " the last minute discovery of a bug when playing video. We are actively trying to fix the issue." check the forums. (I don't know if you want urls in your comments)
Can it run windows 10?
The RPi 4 can be used to supplement the PC for general purpose usages.
Nice reviews by the way.
This is one of the clearest and most helpful videos I've seen on the Raspberry Pi -- or on any technical subject on UA-cam for that matter. I gave up on the Pi 3 because it was so slow and am about to connect the Pi 4. Gary has given great encouragement to stick with it.
one thing not mentioned here if you're upgrading is that you may need a new case as the board layout / ports have changed
Thanks for sharing this video and your thoughts & insights. Much appreciated !
Finally an explanation of what a raspberry pi does and is. Watched 4 videos before this and still didn't know. A pi 4 may be in the mail headed towards my door.
Kudos! Gary, you are so good at what you do, which is explaining stuff. Additionally, you make everything super interesting. That is quite an ability! I have a Raspi 2, model B for playing around, but with Windows becoming a path I no longer want to go down, so the Raspi 4 seems like a GREAT alternative for my regular web surfing, plus my programming. Since my desktop is an old AMD Phenom II X4 955 I don't think it would be much of a step down. Mainly all i need to know is if the 4 has enough horsepower to render videos on youtube and that sort of thing. All good wishes! Of course I'm subscribed, and gave you thumbs-up. PS: I looked at the raspi 4 website, and that's very encouraging! Only $55 for the 4GB SDRAM model and i see that it has hardware Video decoding of HEVC video. [I don't know what that means, but it's GREAT!].
with the high temp warning, there are cheap heat sinks and tiny fans you can use for like $5
I didn't finish this review because a couple of things said at the beginning of the review were (I feel) a bit misleading. You can't say EVERYTHING will be three times faster because that is a huge generalization and doesn't take other things into account. Also, the main reason it can transfer at over 100MBps is because of the USB 3, USB 2 is not capable of that speed, but it wasn't mentioned until after the speed is talked about.
To answer your points. I have a complete set of benchmarks pinned at the top of the comments. It is indeed a generalization that everything is 3 times faster, because some things are 4 times faster. As for the 100Mbps, you seem to be forgetting thst the Pi 3+ had USB 3 and Gigabit Ethernet, but they couldn't realize their max potential due to the bus designs.
I had mine connected to a 4k TV and had problems displaying 4k content in VLC and from youtube in the chrome browser. However I installed Kodi and this was so much better with the 4k content. I believe that there is a known problem with the chrome browser and video at the moment but they are working on it.
The Costa Rica 4k video ran on Kodi with the UA-cam plug-in with a small amount of tearing and buffering. This may have been my wireless or my internet connection.
I wonder how fast is the CPU compared to the x86.
It would be easier to get a grasp of the speed if you were to compare it with, let's say, i3 or r3.
Which model of i3 and which generation?
From the benchmarks I've seen, the i3 is literally light years ahead.
@@GaryExplains That's the thing, I don't know if it even compares to the i3 from the video. Pentium or Celeron, who knows 🤷🏽♂️
@@trickyrat483 okay, at least I know it is lighter than that. Makes sense with how little heat it generates though.
@Tricky Rat Light years ahead of which model and gen of i3?
Thanx Gary cool video didn't know anout 4K videos thanks for tip. I bought the Canakit and came with little fan, maybe that will help with the heat problem you mentioned.
Should try the alpha libreelec build, pretty sure they have h265 4k video working.
That is the whole point isn't it, I shouldn't have to "try" anything and especially not alpha software. At the moment using the preinstalled version of VLC it doesn't work.
@@GaryExplains But thats the point you said, 'it doesnt do 4k video decoding' which isnt entirely true, Shawn is telling you it does, but you have to use something that supports it. I get your point though and im sure in time when everyone has got hold of these the support will be there.
@@Hybrid330i My point is that using the default software it doesn't work. Is my task to test the device and tell people what works and what doesn't work, or to make excuses?
@@GaryExplains Thanks for your videos, I do enjoy and appreciate them, I guess from a viewers point of view, when you said 'it doesnt do 4k video decoding' I had a heart sink moment as for me (and many others im sure) 4k hardware video decoding is a massive thing. When I read down a bit and saw Shawn said it did, it was a relief.
@@Hybrid330i I wouldn't get too happy yet. It ONLY supports it for H.265 and it is yet unknown at what bitrates. This means that for other codecs like VP9 or WebM or H.264, it won't work. So it very much depends on the source of your video and the bitrate. Saying it "supports" 4K needs lots of caveats.
I might give a full version of Ubuntu a try on 64 bit and see if the board still heats up. I'll let you know. Thanks for the great Video.
Results pls
*Good Morning Professor GARY!!!*
*Good Morning Fellow Classmates!*
It's good night here 😃😃
Mark!
@@p.kay_____ *Pramod Kumar!* It's night here now. lol
as always in depth great review
Excellent Demo ! Thank you
Phenomenal video! Thanks so much! 😊
I'd love it if you'd make a video about RISC-V
Yeah. RISC is good. Sure this sweet machine's not going to waste?
i like the way you explain about Raspberry. keep it up
Finally a Pi with enough RAM to run my Minecraft server
dedidated wam
Gary is?
A. Genius
B. Genius
I vote for C. Genius 😁🙄😂😲😜
he explained again an i understood. thanks channel.
I ve got one. Its really nice tinny box for desktop with raspbian os. I hope that the next version of Pi will have more RAM (8GB), stronger CPU and GPU, SATA interface.
You gonna find M.2 PCIe lanes or thunderbolt (USB 4.0 will be based on it) also with exposed PCIe lanes faster then SATA, ARM chips are mainly used for mobile devices so bearly any of them have SATA controllers + fact that there lot of SATA controlers for PCIe and USB theres no point really
while we wait for pi 4 cooling solutions to become available my temporary bodge was to just plug a USB powered fan into it and then sit the pi on the fan's cage. It moves a massive amount of air compared to the tiny bespoke fans and it turns out that it does the job so well I think I might build a case with the fan integrated to blow over a large passive heatsink (like the AAB Cooling NB Cooler 1).
Make your own heatsink from 1/4 inch scrap copper plate or aluminum and thermal epoxy. I've been doing it for years on some projects. My heatsinks might not win a beauty contest, but they have all worked. Forced air is always good..peace
Thanks for the overview and review! Seems like a no-brainer that you'd want to put it in an upgraded case with some heat sinks and a fan for any serious work - but at least those things are easily available as third-party add-ons..
I'm eager to know can it bitstream HD audio to receiver?
beserk lee I believe the old ones could do it with a hat, doubt they added it but I may be wrong
What's a good heatsink for pi 4?
I wonder how Junior is going to like the New Gaming Computer.
just think of the savings on the electric bill.
Put it in a cheap gamery ATX case and fill it with some RGB LEDs lol
@@4.0.4 Winning.
I wonder how n64 plays on that thing?
Have you tried 4k in Kodi?
Amitabh Srivastava thats what I would want to know too ..
i want to know that too and also can it bitstream HD audio
I know these are low power, low profile products, why do we not have mSATA on these boards yet?
I dont know much about that from factor but it would be interesting to see these get msata at least for faster load times.
Can i run Android SDK smoothly on 4 gigs version ?
I think that 8gb is safe zone in 2019/2020 but 4gb I'm not sure if it will be comfortable. Some Android devices have 12 gb but SDK run on 4? For bigger projects it's bad idea.
Raspberry pi uses ARM based processor. It can't run any x86 program including android studio
I bought an ice tower for my Pi build and I don't regret it.
It can be used as a server for a php csm forum? its strong enough?
Yes, but it would depend on the traffic levels, as with any sever. Also, how will you connect it to the net over your home internet connection?
@@GaryExplains Yes, would work at Home? i have fiber 300mbps (33mb real), i can go to 500mbps or 1gb if i want
@@AparatorulPoporului Those are the download speeds I guess, my only advice would be to check the upload speeds and consistency because your upload speed becomes the download speed for those connecting to the server. Also check the terms and conditions of your service provider as some don't allow what you are proposing.
@@GaryExplains 300down/150up (is around 33mbps down and 17mbps/up, real)
Gary please let me know if this Pi for can work with HP USB printer and scanner I'd like to purchase a few for a few elderly patient who have basic web email UA-cam and browsing needs but occasionally need to print something or scan something
Can you code? If so port the drivers
Since the Pi OS "Raspberrian" is derived from Debian, I would expect it to support HP printers (and most other brands) with the same CUPS drivers that I use all the time to drive HP printers from Ubuntu Linux systems.
thanks for the great video, very informative!
Two Questions:
can it run Plex transcoding mkv - from SATA ?
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but can it run Crysis?
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thx
YES
NO
@@raz0229 also Trancsoding in Plex - from lets say 4k to 1080p ?
@@Protoscherge depends...
@@raz0229 on the bitrate i guess ?!
well then i guess it wont work with most of my Films cause the Audio Line - Atmos is heavy
@@Protoscherge Why would u use Raspberry Pi for such hard core tasks. I'd recommend using Windows 10 (Presumably this is your current OS).
I've been using Raspberry Pi 3A+ for data sciences. And some classic games (e.g Minecraft) and as a mini web browser.
But, For some Ultra definition quality and video editing, -tweaking around, gaming etc I use Windows, And I don't think anyother alternative can beat that.
How about the audio? Previous Raspberry Pis did not have a very decent audio output via the audio jack. People who built audio streaming boxes had to add alternative sound cards.
Did the RPi foundation upgrade the audio chip on the RPi 4?
Yeah we are getting a lot of unboxing but not much using of it would be good to see people actually using it and playing back a few vids or something.
Almost certainly not. If you ask one of their engineers about the DAC they'd probably wait for a minute to think what that was and say "oh yeah it does that too, sure!"
What was that walking across your finger at 9:09?
LOL, now that I look at that clips it does seem like that! 😲 It is actually a mark on my lens that tracks as I moved the camera for that shot!
7:49 💥💥Me Trying To Find The Headphone Jack On My New iPhone😂😂😂
You should try finding your dignity back after buying an iPhone
Trestres 23 , Nice.
8:33 current and ex Pixel 1 owners ♥️
I still have my blackberry playbook with mini hdmi. I think I can use that as a screen to?
Gary, can I assume that the overheating issue you were having on the Pi 4 was the result of not having cooling sinks and a cooling fan on the board? GREAT vid, thx!
Cooling helps but also there are some firmware updates that also help. I might do a video about the latter if I find time.
As someone who uses raspberries for my robotics team I can tell you the pi 3 can get very hot and we always run it with a heet sync
What about a phan or a kulher?
@@NJ-wb1cz never heard of those
@@Cookie_Wookie_7 well, I never heard of you
@Gary Explains I have a quick fix for your low voltage icon problem. 😉 (Also overclocking secret 😅).
Use your OnePlus dash (warp is best) charger for your Pi. Fixed 5v😁 at 6a, (amps are drawn not pushed to Pi).
So when your accessories/overclock, pulls amperage, your voltage doesn't sag because the power supply can supply the required amps.
(If the power supply can't provide the amps, the volts sags. This gives you the warning, because voltage sagging below a certain point can damage the chipset's.)
Equally don't go nuts and now pull tons of power through the board. 🤣 (The way I learned... "The blue smoke, of death". 🤦♂️😏). The trick is moderation. 😄 So I'd stay with using what you use at the moment (+ no sag, OPWarp😉), and never see the warning icon again. 😄 😏 Would still leave you a little room for overclocking, but do remember it's all "power through the board", you will need a thermal solution. 😉
If anyone actually reads this far, and is interested, I'll go find the exact model of Noctua 5v 40mm fan that I use. 😏😂
Even comes with all the adapters/crimps for wireing 😆 it to the 5v and ground on the gpio. 😉😎 Almost silent, (like hold it to your ear and it's a whisper) and moves enough air to easily keep the pi cool. 😊
(The fan is a solid rec to anyone, I've be gradually going round "pi/retro arcade UA-camrs" and turning them on to it. 😂 They all got me into pi in the first place, only fair I share back my good finds. 😉✌️I believe it was "Explaining computers", that has it in his Pi extreme cooling video if you want to check it out. 😊😉).
Cheers to anyone who read this far, and have a great day. Peace. ✌️
The emojis cringedthefouttame
@@kristinafraxx5808 good for you. I'll respectfully not include them in my reply to you, but it would be nice if you could actually contribute to the conversation with something related to the Pi...
@@KingsPhotographySolutions maybe if I were your girlfriend i would appreciate. sorry i no longer use computers so cant comment on that. Win XP, And Linux are my fav interfaces tho
can we play netflix or amazon prime video on it? I want to buy it to use as Home Theater PC
I doubt it supports their DRM, but there might be a workaround
I installed kodi on the 3B plus and there is a Netflix extention working. Kodi added drm support in v18. Firefox also support drm.
Nicely done. Thank you.
Great board indeed , I wonder can it support real time motion tracking and face recognition for a security camera use .
Personally, I wish they used the Cortex A73 over the A72, the A73's logic design is quite a bit more power efficient which keeps it from hitting thermal limits as often as the A72. Even the 28nm process is fairly old, they should've went with a cheap fin fet process. I'm wondering if the current lack of 4k hardware decode is simply a software roadblock.
Maybe get a 50mm radial cooling fan?
Or make a case with heatsink that can cool it..
open libre office smoothly? for the task
OK its time for a Cooling / heat sink mod video. lol
Get the 4 gigabyte version, why? Because it's just nice. I love this answer.
So do I
it's awesome as a jump server. or even as a monitoring console.
I’m trying to hook up two different monitors they both work but It’s only mirrored the hdmi 1. I’m using the pi4 running the latest raspberriam . Any help thanks
Did you watch my tutorial about this? ua-cam.com/video/E6pfsjJhAYQ/v-deo.html
Time to clean the camera lense.
Love your content, keep it up!
The lens used for B roll, it's dirty
How would this board stand up to an Asus tinker board? I picked up a tinker board when they were sold out of Pi 4s, and now I'm looking at them as a comparison. Also have you reviewed the Tinker board?
Nice video... Thank you !
How much storage can I have and can I duel boot android auto and something else for a retro gaming.
1:00 You don't need ventilation? As your heat reference at 15:30 indicates it gets hot. Reviews already with it under a heat camera beg to differ (as in using it under load such as those dual 4k video outputs). It (Pi4) should have come with a heatsink as standard, not a mere option. It is (quote) _"uncomfortably hot"_ when doing any decent work (not even thrashing it - just video like not even a movie duration). Ironic how there is a heatwave when it launches. It is a prebuilt system board with an operating system called "noobs" (or raspbian) indicating it is for people who are learning (noobs), not just experts. The official keyboard mouse case bundle has a case that traps in heat.
Personally I think if they were going for a larger board anyway, they could have made it a lot larger and thereby made a case that is bigger with better space to keep it cool. I'd have opted for a 8core or dual quad running lower and underclocked, not largely about making 4k dual video out as a priority. A larger board with it doing 8way parallel processing could have helped students learning about blake2sp and basic polynomials (which some GCSE maths students read about in revision guides between GCSE math and AS or ALevel maths, even if they only wish to do quadratic equations at GCSE).
A bigger case and board being twice an old Pi3, like two side by side, like other brands can mean a square fan could have gone on it if desired. The a53 has been described as server class (and a bunch get used). The a72 is described as mobile device class. Dual quad a53 (like a humble parallel server) or octa-core would have made server sense, let alone a computer module breakout edge connector like say the turing board but with over 8 slots, not just 7. Turing (the father of computing) was largely famous when about encryption and blake2sp would have been a good learning situation with 8way parallel. It need not be the fastest board for that. It is about learning.
Even if they did not go that route (a53 or octacore), the heat it has and its lack of ventilation in a case they want to get extra revenue from is a poor show when they could have prioritised cooling to be "enough" (i.e. don't make the board hot, and spread it over a different CPU setup and put in a better heatsink). A counterargument some might try to make be that they are selling it at a loss. However some people would rather have a board by a different brand that does the right things and costs more (which they may or may not end up using headless). A dose of plague might be 50p but it does not make the purchase good value.
People use clusters of boards too so the board shape and its heat problems on the pi4 might get in the way of that with its a72 dominating the cooling space in a case with its hot a72 spreading heat over the PCB when people have to put in a heatsink. The Pi's website shops (of recommended sellers) has a tiny _"optional heatsink"_ and it will confuse people who will then look fo a bigger one. A good heatsink should have been a standard and supplied (or just us a different chip and do not allude to dual 4k hdmi, Pi). Those hdmi ports will snap like Kofi Annan famously breaking and winding a _OneLaptopPerChild XO_ computer charge handle. And the _"case and keyboard mouse"_ bundle does not give breakout _"mini to female hdmi"_ to convert and keep them safe but foolishly has two hdmi that suggest plugging straight into a monitor.
People (kids and gutted parents alike) will plug that Pi4 straight into two HDMI screens to run 4k and then see the thing overheat and fail to understand why bad consequences occur.
When little Timmy and Tammy plug in their Pi, tech nerds saying _"you get what you pay for"_ will anger the parents or the silver-surfer.
It's not even as if the board currently having more support is an argument as with the Pi3 (which is supported). Debian and BSD and RISCOS (for video issues) and Ubuntu are not "properly" out for Pi4 yet. Or amibian and the media centre stuff.
The Pi 4 is very very interesting, but i think i wait for the Pi 5. The CPU needs a little higher clockspeed for all my needs.
Can always buy several and make it into a cluster - that's what I plan to do.
Have you heard about the issue with the rasberry pi 4? Apparently using it at its highest resolution can interfere with wifi. What are your thoughts on that
No. I'm new to all this and thinking about getting a pi4, is this something I should really consider? Just looking for a small data viewer, pics, vids.
@@thinkright5611 I'm new to it as well!! I was given one for christmas and I am pretty stoked over it. I was reading further and that a firmware update was released for it in Nov :]
Just ordered the RPi 4B to replace my 3B with defective wifi. I hope the wifi is half decent in this version. On my 3B (NOT 3B+) the wifi controller stopped working after a month. The hardware vanished. Using mine for OctoPi with some advanced plugins that are a bit intensive for a SKR Pro 1.1 board.
I want to replace my everyday PC usage etc playing movies,youtube,facebook,some older games too maybe etc with something that wont draw that much power as my Computer,Is this suitable or is there anything else that is more suitable for the purpose?
It depends on your exact usage, but my guess is that It will still struggle with some of those, specifically UA-cam and older games (if they are for Windows).
Concise, no nonsense report about the good new technology.
Will you do a video on your performance testing please. I've done some basic testing of my RPi 4 against my RPi3 B+ and I am only seing a 15% increase. not 2x 3x or even 4x that everyone keeps reporting. Ta :)
Really? What type of tests have you run?
Gary Explains The 3x faster claim is probably transfer speeds on the USB 3 and ethernet not performance of the CPU. There's no way this is even twice as fast as the 3B. 15% in real performance sounds right to me.
@@RmnGnzlz No, the CPU performance is 3x. For example running the Angel RISC-V emulator takes 44 seconds to boot on a Pi 3. It takes just 14 seconds on a Pi 4. 11 seconds on a RockPro64.
@@RmnGnzlz Yeah, I will put together a little report tomorrow.
Everyone comments that the RPI 4 runs hot, requiring everyone to spend extra money for heat sinks. Well, surprise, you needed to do this with the other RPI versions as well, that is unless you are hardly doing any work, which in that case you could have saved a few bucks and used an RPI zero.
My biggest complaint about the RPI 3B+ and earlier is the whimpy micro USB port for power. Plug in nearly any USB device and you get a power shortage lightning bolt.
The RPI 4 has a USB-C port, which is spec'd for more power. We'll see if it works better. I have a CAN bus display in my car ran off a RPI 3B, it should be a little faster with RPI 4 and more RAM should help, now to figure out where to put another 7" waveshare..
I was put off from 4 cause there was no USB boot support at the beginning and I'm using it as monitoring server, Nagios, Observium, etc.
Thank you for that nice and informational vidio, as I am just testing the Pi4 myself it was very helpfull as I am looking for good stuff for my gradchildren.
I also have a video about using two monitors with the Pi 4. ua-cam.com/video/E6pfsjJhAYQ/v-deo.html
Can I run a rpi3 retro pie build on a rpi4? Will it run if I just switch the sd card over to the newer rpi?
you probably need to update kernel (which has also drivers) and also system configuration, generly OS itself, the applications themselves should work without problem as long they compiled for ARM
@@ShadowriverUB Thanks for the input.
I'm mostly looking to run a retropie build, just a mounted image file on an sd card.. Maybe a libreelec kodi build on another sd card as well..
I would love to try that out and see how it works for myself. That sounds like a great board and with such a fine OS to work on it too.
Could one combine multiple RP4s to create a more capable computer?
That's not possible in terms of general use. For specialised tasks like certain simulations that can be run in parallel, combining multiple RP4s is an option, though.
General compute tasks (like running desktop applications) cannot share resources like RAM or CPU-cores across multiple machines and thus wouldn't benefit at all from such combination.
4k decoding is not present means we can't watch 4k UA-cam, Netflix,etc video on that ?
I am planning to buy that but if it will not play 4k online video then not...
Supposedly it supports now up to 4k 60fps content the rasp 4
buys $300 4k monitor, wont buy $35 computer because it wont stream 4k
It is present, it does decode 4k H265 perfectly; it's just that VLC on Raspian Buster isn't optimised.
ARM desktop getting even closer... Is this it?
Does this have any GPU?
Wonder if they could put some PCIe slots on it..
It does have a GPU, slightly better than the previous one I think
As for PCIe, I think the board is smaller than a x16 slot
@@battmarn lol Yer true.. Perhaps a x1 or x4 slot would be good though.. Or even thunderbolt which has a x4 PCIe 3.0 connection through it.. Thunderbolt GPU enclosure plus raspberry Pi would be cool.
Please compare this to the pine 64
RockPro64 not pine64. Pine64 is the producer of sbc and sbc based devices
I have a whole video on the RockPro64. The differences should be fairly evident if you have watched both videos.
4k 60Hz is supported by the GPU but the programs, i.e. most videoplayers, webbrowsers and such do not use the hardware-acceleration in the GPU yet. With a little luck the programs will soon be updated to the new videocore.
4K for H.265 only, no?
The RPi4 is listed as doing h.265 decode at 4k60, could be a software-issue (drivers?)
If the hardware is as capable as claimed, then yes it is a software issue. But only supporting H.265 and not H.264, VP9 or WebM means that 4K support is limited at best.
"H.265 (4kp60 decode), H264 (1080p60 decode, 1080p30 encode)"
static.raspberrypi.org/files/product-briefs/Raspberry-Pi-4-Product-Brief.pdf
www.raspberrypi.org/products/raspberry-pi-4-model-b/specifications/
i assume the gigabit ethernet shares with the 5GBPS from USB3?
(as do maybe does other stuff on there that's internally wired to the usb3 bus where they were on the usb2 bus before?)
you'll probably mention it somewhere in these 17 minutes
also, i'm kind of in the market for a SBC that can sync laptop monitor connection like them 30-pins without bulky converters, i got some laptop screens, and 30-pin connector is pretty standardized, right?
i could imagine there is standardized hardware you could program without being specific to 1 panel?
3 times faster you say?
i like having rudamentary setups to code some stuff on and play some emulators when i'm visiting friends that have a spare monitor, this will be a very welcome friend.
the gigabit is run off pcie as far as i can tell
My Laptop have only a dual Core processor and 3 GB DDR3 ram
Time to get an odroid H2 for $111
@@dkimmortal but i need a laptop
@@christianuhl7929 You can get a second hand one for cheap that'll be better than a cheap new one (definitely don't buy an Acer or an HP one!)
Time to get an Dell optiplex computer for 100-200 usd and a budget monitor
Erick Pou Garcia He needs a laptop, not a desktop, and usually laptops are more portable than desktops.
What about 2 1080p videos at once?
Another fun day in computer school with Professor Gary 👍🏻
Would heatsink plus fan make big difference? Overclock?
I would say while it isn't required, I recommend a fan and heatsink.
As for OC, this isn't something you want to over clock... This is a project board used for server applications and custom programs. If you are in need of higher clock speeds, the Pi's are not for you.
get the square heatsink fan and oc cpu to 1.75ghz
Since it has dual screens on the Pi 4, can I attach 2 SF2 Arcade 1up cabinets so I am able to play 3 player & four player games?
Boot up from usb 3.0; 8 gigs ram via an expansion board. A ChromeOS compliance top/expansion board, so that it can run official ChromeOS, plus any other Operating system you need.
The video I been waiting for ....
Can I run a lightweight 64bit linux distro on Rasp Pi 4 ?
And then python 3.5+ 64 bit ?
Ubuntu has a pure 64-bit distro for the Pi and I understand the Raspberry Foundation is making a 64-bit version of Raspbian, but I haven't tried it.