I use mine for various tasks. Pulling off the bulk of the stone from a area, spreading topsoil around feathering in spots or add a little weight to it and be a little aggressive to blend areas. So many uses and the best way to learn is to go out and experiment. Thanks for the videos.
Landscape rakes are tough to use in the way Neil shows, I have a huge heavy duty York '12, but it bounces over the terrain with the tractor even in float. You can see that in the video also. It scrapes here and there but not everywhere consistently. It is handy to rake tree limbs, but I always have to jump out and pull thorn bushes, limbs and brush from the tines which is a pain. Sometimes they get so lodge in it's real work to get it all out. I will be pulling a big pile of limbs to the edge of a field going 1-2 mph, and then hit a dip in the field and loose everything. Rakes best purposes are gravel roads, it does a beautiful job on old or new gravel roads. Just beautiful. I also use my after I use a box scraper to further level fields and pastures to break up big clumps of soil, etc. After a couple passes with the rake, the area is ready to be seeded. If you intended to use one of these as a field rake to remove limbs, buy a tow behind model, not 3-point.
@@zfilmmaker It's not about the strength of the top link it's about the ability to stay level. Just using the proper equipment would be a huge upgrade in your case.
One thing i use in my business is called a pine needle rake made by everything attachments. Only company I know that makes it. I use it on large properties that have a lot of sticks. It does minimal damage to the ground or turf. It does not pick up everything but it does pick up enough you can mow over the rest. It is a must for anyone that has hrs of raking to do in the spring
I have been thinking about this. I have a BX and I don't have a huge yard but with a willow tree and some apple trees I get a lot of small branches after winter. So a pine needle rake would work without really beating up a lawn?
@@squish15 it will pickup about 95% of everything. The damage is about the same as a stiff leaf rake. It will pull up thatch too if you have a lot of it.
These are the videos I like, Neil. I grew up around was but was never a farmer. I'm about to buy some land and want to learn what all these implements are used for and house use them, so please keep on with a implements video series!
Glad to see you referring to this as a landscape rake. I frequently see folks calling them "rock rakes," and in my experience they do a terrible job of actually raking rocks if your goal is to rid a field of rocks. Yes, it will tend to bring some to the surface, but as far as collection, rocks tend to just roll under the tines. For sticks, thatch, minor finish-type grading, leveling gravel, etc. it does a pretty good job.
I like to use the rake for snow removal. Not only does it bring rock to the surface for traction, the rock heats up in the sun and helps the snow melt.
Setup right, a rake can be a low budget grader. The rake needs guide wheels, a cylinder for power angling, and a scarifier; a flip down blade is a worthwhile investment. The tractor needs a top & tilt kit for the 3pt hitch. With this set-up, a decent operator can do precise fine grading.
Messick's thank you for the videos. Can you make one that breaks down the different horse powered tractors? You have so many different level of tractors, how do I know which one I need? I have 65 acres and cattle. Should I have 40 horse power or 60 horse power and why?
157mshaggy Visit the dealer. They can help you with your decision. It’s difficult to just say, you need a 40 or 50 or 60 hp tractor. It really depends what you are going to use it for. If you want to run a hay binder or a bat wing mower let’s say, you need way more horsepower than if you are just looking for a tractor to run a finish mower, post hole digger or just mucking stalls. Weight and horsepower depend on how YOU use the tractor and what you need it for. Price might also be a factor. Go take a look at some tractors and talk to the salesman. They can help you. Good luck.
@@1001-u6r Understood that each person would have a unique need for a tractor. But that would be true for every implement. Therefore, why make videos on different implements, just have each person call for their specific need. The reason videos are made would be to explain the generality of the equipment. Like this video, what if I had a 150 horsepower tractor, then this video would not apply to me, but Messick's made it anyway. All I'm asking for is a video that address some of the things you're replying about. Should I get a 150 horse power tractor for a one acre lot or a 25 horse power tractor for 2000 acres? Why or why not? Just a suggestion for a video that I would like to see.
157mshaggy I understand what you are wanting to see, but my point is that there are so many variables to individual need, it would be hard to make a video like that. Tractor weight is far more important than horsepower for most tasks. Loader work requires weight for example. You can get away with less horsepower for those tasks. A multi bottom plow will require some big horsepower and weight. I thought you were looking to buy a tractor and was trying to offer advice. There is a reason why you don’t see “this is what you need in a tractor” videos. It depends on individual need. Implements are designed for certain tasks, so it’s fairly easy to show what a particular device can do. Tractors can be used to handle a multitude of tasks, implements and attachments. A 12 acre hobby farm has different needs than a 200 acre dairy farm. A 150 horsepower farm tractor can run a landscape rake, but so can a 23 horse sub-compact if sized correctly. Way too many variables for the tractor. Just trying to help.
Don't know how it would work on an angled rake but I use mine in the straight position and depending on how far in or out the top link is the more or less aggressive the rake is on the ground
Neil, most videos I watch others do with these show them collecting a lot of soil. Maybe it’s the difference of sand or clay. I want to run the woods and collect pine straw (likely twigs too) with minimal soil. Is this a job for something like that?
I had to stop halfway thru. What could have been talked about and demonstrated in 5 minutes or less was going to take more than 10 by this guy who loves to hear himself talk.
I use mine for various tasks. Pulling off the bulk of the stone from a area, spreading topsoil around feathering in spots or add a little weight to it and be a little aggressive to blend areas. So many uses and the best way to learn is to go out and experiment.
Thanks for the videos.
Landscape rakes are tough to use in the way Neil shows, I have a huge heavy duty York '12, but it bounces over the terrain with the tractor even in float. You can see that in the video also. It scrapes here and there but not everywhere consistently. It is handy to rake tree limbs, but I always have to jump out and pull thorn bushes, limbs and brush from the tines which is a pain. Sometimes they get so lodge in it's real work to get it all out. I will be pulling a big pile of limbs to the edge of a field going 1-2 mph, and then hit a dip in the field and loose everything. Rakes best purposes are gravel roads, it does a beautiful job on old or new gravel roads. Just beautiful. I also use my after I use a box scraper to further level fields and pastures to break up big clumps of soil, etc. After a couple passes with the rake, the area is ready to be seeded. If you intended to use one of these as a field rake to remove limbs, buy a tow behind model, not 3-point.
Consider a chain top link to smooth out the rake. There's videos on this.
@@Dan-oz4qb chain top link? I have a big hydraulic top link which is heavier then any manual one. I pull my York with a 250 HP tractor.
@@zfilmmaker It's not about the strength of the top link it's about the ability to stay level. Just using the proper equipment would be a huge upgrade in your case.
One thing i use in my business is called a pine needle rake made by everything attachments. Only company I know that makes it. I use it on large properties that have a lot of sticks. It does minimal damage to the ground or turf. It does not pick up everything but it does pick up enough you can mow over the rest. It is a must for anyone that has hrs of raking to do in the spring
I have been thinking about this. I have a BX and I don't have a huge yard but with a willow tree and some apple trees I get a lot of small branches after winter. So a pine needle rake would work without really beating up a lawn?
@@squish15 it will pickup about 95% of everything. The damage is about the same as a stiff leaf rake. It will pull up thatch too if you have a lot of it.
@@JCLawn51 you guys answered my question im buying a rake for my 2509
These are the videos I like, Neil. I grew up around was but was never a farmer. I'm about to buy some land and want to learn what all these implements are used for and house use them, so please keep on with a implements video series!
Glad to see you referring to this as a landscape rake. I frequently see folks calling them "rock rakes," and in my experience they do a terrible job of actually raking rocks if your goal is to rid a field of rocks. Yes, it will tend to bring some to the surface, but as far as collection, rocks tend to just roll under the tines. For sticks, thatch, minor finish-type grading, leveling gravel, etc. it does a pretty good job.
Great implement to use after a forestry mulcher, those machines leave a lot of debris on the ground!!! Helps the grass come back faster.
Niel , you need helping hand with ur audio .
I like to use the rake for snow removal. Not only does it bring rock to the surface for traction, the rock heats up in the sun and helps the snow melt.
Thanks for the tip on using the top link that is going to really help me
With the cheaper rakes like the RK by King Kutter that are sold at Rural King, they work 10x better when you remove every other tine.
Great video on the rake. Loved the camera work at the end! How long did it take for you to go back and find it?
I left after looking for a half hour, and came back at night and literally took 10 steps and found it.
Setup right, a rake can be a low budget grader. The rake needs guide wheels, a cylinder for power angling, and a scarifier; a flip down blade is a worthwhile investment. The tractor needs a top & tilt kit for the 3pt hitch. With this set-up, a decent operator can do precise fine grading.
you can buy a grader blade for like 150$ , rake doesnt compare to a blade
Wish you were in North Central Indiana! Great video 👍 thank you
Appreciate your videos! Very informative.
Messick's. A Helping Hand With Your Land
I like to turn my tractor rake the other way after I prune my trees or cut a tree to gather the brush. It is excellent for that.
So, those new tractors you use, are now used tractors? Can't be sold as new? Just curious.
as long as they dont use it to much
most of the time I'm using equipment from our rental fleet.
Points for using "nebulous" in a tractor video.
Messick's thank you for the videos. Can you make one that breaks down the different horse powered tractors? You have so many different level of tractors, how do I know which one I need? I have 65 acres and cattle. Should I have 40 horse power or 60 horse power and why?
Best to call them and discuss your needs
157mshaggy
Visit the dealer. They can help you with your decision. It’s difficult to just say, you need a 40 or 50 or 60 hp tractor. It really depends what you are going to use it for. If you want to run a hay binder or a bat wing mower let’s say, you need way more horsepower than if you are just looking for a tractor to run a finish mower, post hole digger or just mucking stalls. Weight and horsepower depend on how YOU use the tractor and what you need it for. Price might also be a factor. Go take a look at some tractors and talk to the salesman. They can help you. Good luck.
@@1001-u6r Understood that each person would have a unique need for a tractor. But that would be true for every implement. Therefore, why make videos on different implements, just have each person call for their specific need. The reason videos are made would be to explain the generality of the equipment. Like this video, what if I had a 150 horsepower tractor, then this video would not apply to me, but Messick's made it anyway. All I'm asking for is a video that address some of the things you're replying about. Should I get a 150 horse power tractor for a one acre lot or a 25 horse power tractor for 2000 acres? Why or why not? Just a suggestion for a video that I would like to see.
157mshaggy
I understand what you are wanting to see, but my point is that there are so many variables to individual need, it would be hard to make a video like that. Tractor weight is far more important than horsepower for most tasks. Loader work requires weight for example. You can get away with less horsepower for those tasks. A multi bottom plow will require some big horsepower and weight. I thought you were looking to buy a tractor and was trying to offer advice. There is a reason why you don’t see “this is what you need in a tractor” videos. It depends on individual need. Implements are designed for certain tasks, so it’s fairly easy to show what a particular device can do. Tractors can be used to handle a multitude of tasks, implements and attachments. A 12 acre hobby farm has different needs than a 200 acre dairy farm. A 150 horsepower farm tractor can run a landscape rake, but so can a 23 horse sub-compact if sized correctly. Way too many variables for the tractor. Just trying to help.
@@1001-u6r Thank you for your time.
Don't know how it would work on an angled rake but I use mine in the straight position and depending on how far in or out the top link is the more or less aggressive the rake is on the ground
Neil, most videos I watch others do with these show them collecting a lot of soil. Maybe it’s the difference of sand or clay. I want to run the woods and collect pine straw (likely twigs too) with minimal soil. Is this a job for something like that?
I want to get one to collect cow manure, especially the dry stuff. Is this a silly idea?
No, would work great
Would it work as a grass dethatcher for use before seeding a small pasture?
Yeah it does.
Hey can you talk about the new partnership between kabota and versatile and what will come out of it and what we should expect
I don't know anything
Messick's www.producer.com/2019/04/new-versatile-kubota-tractor-in-production/
I should say I don't know anything that's not already public.
How much does this cost for a smaller version that I could put on my BX1880?
Biggest takeaway from this has me thinking one of these can help out with dethatching, leaves in the fall, and/or yard cleanups.
Man awesome
Where is your seatbelt Neil ?????
Connected, and around my lap
I had to stop halfway thru. What could have been talked about and demonstrated in 5 minutes or less was going to take more than 10 by this guy who loves to hear himself talk.
Meh. You know UA-cam allows you play videos at 1.25x, 1.5x, 1.75x, and 2x speeds, right? The majority of videos I watch I run at 2x.