People should understand that this is embedded advertising. It's not even illegal as long as Joe doesn't get paid for it. Tony probably got paid a check to bring this up and how he went to see it.. and boom. You have an "organic" ad, on the biggest podcast in the world that is now getting spread 'word of mouth" as if it's a good movie. Wake up folks
@@theamazingwebhead6453but there would be something to travel to lol just because earth stops existing doesn’t mean nothing exists anymore. There’s a whole universe. Also, I think the earth has far more than a million years left but I’m not sure
@@tianna1116 You misunderstand, you can’t travel to a point in time to a place that has no destination for you to travel to, the destination on earth being another Time Machine to for the one you’re currently at to take you too, if there’s none there, which if earth was just gone, the Time Machine wouldn’t be there either, so you can’t travel to it
@@theamazingwebhead6453 wrong.. he stated when the time machine is invented you can travel forward into time because time is all at once at the point of the time machine creation..
morgellons nanotech fibers , acts like wires in the body was in the masks , nose swabs &vaccines , it self replicates grows and communicates with 5g , think eyes as camera ears as microphones
Bert Kreischer is yet another inexplicable success story, to quote the Late Greg Giraldo. You never see any truly great comedians laughing till their face turns red, similar to the Jimmy Kimmel laugh, just on a fat guy. Anybody who takes off their shirt during stand-up, isn't a stand-up comedian
He had no idea what Joe was talking about, but in all fairness it's hard to envision a world with time travelers everywhere at all different times. With Joes theory why would future people be from that time period? There's no reason technology would be better in the future than in the past. It's really hard to imagine a universe like this.
He doesn't talk like he's an authority... he admitted to not fully understanding most of what he quoted @6:05. They are just having fun musing over the idea, talking about theories, and sharing ideas from what they have learned or read.
@@bigdaddygamestudio5007 not really. joe is making it out like time travel is a contract, where you can only travel in time from when its invented, not farther back. its not a contract, which dictates a start date, and imo it seems more plausible that you would be able to time travel to a time that already passed, not a time that hasnt happened yet.
As always a great group of guests and a really interesting subject. But like the first 1960's Time Machine Movie, the machine didn't actually move, other than thanks the Morlocks and the film makers must of known the earth spins, so unless he mapped out every landing point through space time the earth wasn't moving in their realisation of the subject.
Seconds, minutes, hours. They're all based on days. Days revolve around the sun cycles. The rotary of the earth and the cycles of the sun age us at a specific rate. And everything I just said is an equation for time travel.
I know right. Sometimes Joe's ego gets in his own way. It's like he's half open minded and doesn't realize that arrogance doesn't accommodate intellectual superiority.
@@Coltavena a lot of people have moved onto Normand, Gillis, and Theo’s stuff because they’re all very self-deprecating and open about their problems + super funny. (But, Joe still gets the best guests, so of course I’m gonna click on The Black Keys 😅)
I need another fix, too. He led me to finding out more about the Sumerian Creation Story and Gnosticism and now I see how all religions and myths are connected.
Yes simultaneous parallel realities that is directed by your thoughts, feelings, and actions. - The Harmonic Reactor by Marina Jacobi and The Pleadians
Yeah, because going back in time is different than going forward into the future? Can someone explain to me what's funny about this? 79 people liked this mans comment.
@@justinheller7541 Time travel doesn't just mean going forward/ back in time to a different year, to go from one side of the galaxy to another you'd have to be going so fast that it's practically time traveling. Going back in time truly feels unrealistic, but going forward does not. One of the scientist guys on JRE said he thinks we're 100,000 years before we have the technology to go so fast it's considered time travel. Maybe it's just me being hopeful of something cool that I'd never see, but I actually believe him. Guess some people find it more realistic than others.
Time is an arrow that goes only in 1 direction, it knows no concept of reversal or backwards. The definition of time just means it is ever-going, ever-ticking, ever-progressing. Time exists only because there is no reversal and stagnation.
@@RedPilledwDMT He explained. You can't travel where there are no roads. Time travel to the past can only go as far back as when a method for time travel was invented. Or at least that's the theory. It's all hypothetical speculation.
Just imagine starting a huge project, sending someone to the future when it should be complete, find out all their mistakes, what worked, what didn’t, etc. Then going back and sharing all that info. The point we create time travel, technology would advance tenfold
McKenna realized the moment time travel is invented, a huge number of time travelers from the future will instantaneously appear. Everyone who went back in time to witness “the invention of time travel” would travel to that time and place, and appear for the inventor, all at once.
"The Forever War" is an old book that time travel fans should read. Plot is there is finally a legit contact with aliens and a battle starts. We invent ships that can travel lightyears in seconds and start almost an cosmic island hopping campaign to try and attack the alien homeworld. Everytime a solider travels to a battle and comes back to Earth YEARS pass because they traveled in lightyears. Very good read. An older book from the 70's but beyond its time.
@@andresmarte2172 No, the Tomorrow War was based off something else. I think Paramount picked up the rights to make a Forever War movie... but nothing has been mentioned about it since 2016. The book came out in 1974 and is still one of the best sci-fi novels I've ever read. Joe Haldeman is the author.
Time is an arrow that goes only in 1 direction, it knows no concept of reversal or backwards. The definition of time just means it is ever-going, ever-ticking, ever-progressing. Time exists only because there is no reversal and stagnation.
It’s 100% going to happen, being able to watch a UA-cam video and flying on planes in the 1500s was looked at as way more than impossible imagine 500 years from now
Jesus Christ man. Bert has hundreds of hours of podcasts. On his own podcasts and on other podcasts. 90% of the conversation is about him. About what he is doing, what he did yesterday and what he did years ago. Joe was talking about a specific concept and Bert completely didn't understand it so Joe explains it as simple as possible.
Nah Bert is boring af. The people who reacts "I'm so stupid that I don't wanna talk about this topic" immediately are the most intellectually & creatively incompetent. Just let your mind runs wild for a bit, ground your arguments with some logic and see where it goes. It's not terribly hard, you just need to take yourself a little bit less seriously.
The fact that we can record audio and capture real-life footage in real time is something that would have been laughed at 300 years ago. They would tell you it was impossible. Imagine what we could do 300 years from now, with things that seem almost impossible in this day and age.
@@thephilosopher7173 We can do and build anything. Einstein manifested something that nobody thought was possible. He manifested and created something that never existed
My question on Time Travel has always been: How will location be determined for the time you are traveling to? The entire universe is in constant motion. Travel a million years in the future and the Earth will definitely not be in the same location.
IKR? You either have to recreate the past first THEN travel to it, or take the ENTIRE current universe you're in and recreate it when you travel back. People forget that it's not just time nor space, it's SPACE-TIME. The conundrum we often have is how we would perceive it, IMO it would be akin to you jumping off a moving object.
If you could model everything in a virtual reality perfectly, and we had a perfect understanding of all of the laws of physics, we could definitely run the clock back.
@@edelfelix7333 Absolutely, and maybe never even. In fact, it may even be physically impossible given the laws of nature (ie, there may not even be enough energy).
Time travel is one of those things that sounds extremely fun but only if you’re the only one can do it. Everyone being able to time travel sounds like absolute chaos. It seems like we would be taking one step forward and only one step forward because everyone would keep reversing time. I’m glad time travel can and will never exist because it sounds like it would destroy humanity
I always send to my others selfs outthere on what mistakes not to repeat. hopefully it works and hopefuly they all think same. I want to be the perfect God.
One interesting theory on time travel is how it relates to space travel. If you were to time travel in the future or past you would also have to calculate the position of earth so that you wouldn’t be relocated inside the earth or in space since the earth is constantly moving.
This is the million dollar question, we are moving in space freely, the earth is moving. It would take an immense amount of energy to support time travel. And you hit it right on the nail. I believe black holes are the closest things we have for time traveling as not even light can escape. And if you go inside a black hole and you look outside. You can see a mirror reflection of your body falling in. And the person outside will only see you going in although you’re moving at a much faster rate. You can see light bending and time passing. We would need to harness the power of the sun like joe said or a black hole to reposition the earth if we want to go backwards in time. But will this affect everyone? That’s also another question.. if one person time travels will it also affect everyone else?
@@johnappleseed9290 I've got a pretty good amount of high level physics and earth sciences under my belt. I think time travel will happen at much smaller scales than most realize, and thus the amount of energy (or processing power) will be less. It's not really time travel though, it's more of the holodeck concept in star trek. There is no defeating father time, it's against the laws of physics. What we can do is recreate past events identically as long as they were "recorded". Rogan is right, the future will cease to really exist in a conventional sense. The arrow of time will still go forward, but those events in the future will no longer be set in stone. I don't think individuals will ever get their hands on this tech, as it will be a massive international multi-decade project like CERN is. Honestly, altering the space time around us through a project like this is our only hope out of this climate change crisis. This is another reason why Putin is a pile of shit. We are in this thing together. It's time we start figuring it out. I think we are a lot closer to this sci-fi like tech than everyone realizes.
Here is another crackpot blaming his woes on Putin, the problem is as old as time, as long as there is Russia and its natural resources , someone will try to take it. Good luck with that.
@@garneroutlaw1 What climate crisis? Can we please stop with the alarmist language when the evidence points to changes in coastal lines and temperatures being a natural, cyclical phenomenon. We DO have issues with plastic pollution and waste disposal. It would be far more productive to tackle those issues than handwringing over temperature changes we can’t control or prevent.
I really like when Joe tackles topics like these. It's his unbiased comments on the topic. And i am really looking forward to hearing what he has to say about the recent Congressional Hearing about UFOS.
all this UFO stuff had me in a chokehold growing up but now I’m older I’m starting to think it’s all the governments doing, advanced tech etc. shit low key makes me sad lol
What the fuck is there to say it's a bunch of obfuscation and always will be, until anyone involved is dead and their family fully grown too and old and won't be affected.
morgellons nanotech fibers , acts like wires in the body was in the masks , nose swabs &vaccines , it self replicates grows and communicates with 5g , think eyes as camera ears as microphones
@@morgzyy sorry buddy but there’s no technology we or anybody has on this planet that can go from 60000 feet to sea level of in under 2 seconds then submerge into the ocean. If we had that we would own the sky’s and the seas.
I’m surprised Bert didn’t chime in with a one up story about the time he time travelled back in 97 with Johnny Knoxville And gave him the idea for jackass
Yo Joe you mentioned a road needs to build in order for time travel to exist and I agree with that statement. In regards to that comment in the future it can be possible to for people switch bodies. This road is always open. Military vet I'm a fan
In Doctor Who (which I'd argue is generally the most scientific version of time travel in pop culture) the time machine they have is powered by multiple stars which have been time-looped to perpetually repeat the moment they went supernova inside a Dyson sphere for a near endless supply of energy. They then used this to create a small pocket universe that detaches itself from our universe, then reenters our universe at a different point in space time, essentially teleporting across time
Hey brother. I’m not the biggest Doctor Who fan these days but I’m pretty sure in a Matt Smith episode he says the tardis was grown on gallifrey and it’s a living sentient being. You know how that would work into being a star going supernova?
The entities that power a TARDIS are living beings of Arctron energy, who the Time Lords effectively ‘domesticated’ by locking into devices. What you see as ‘the TARDIS console’ is more like a dog collar or cage with equipment for controlling and manipulating the entity within, which has the power to move through time and space at will. The rest of it is the dimensional tech to make it bigger on the inside plus equipment to ensure the passengers survive in the hostile environments of space and the time vortex. Most TARDISs are supposed to be piloted by up to 8 Time Lords each (hence why there are numerous panels, also why the Doctor, as usually the only pilot, does a lot of running around pressing buttons). Most Time Lord pilots are also much more strict than the Doctor at controlling their TARDIS. The Doctor is more like the sort of dog owner who lets their dog lead the walk most of the way, which is why they often end up where they are needed rather than where they wanted to be. So in the episode in question, what we had was a situation where someone had stolen the Doctor’s pet TARDIS and in order to catch them he had to cobble together a new collar and lead from bits of stuff lying around the park (left there from other Time Lords who had also had their TARDISs stolen). Then he had to persuade his TARDIS to get into it, which she does because she actually likes him (unlike the other Time Lords who are sometimes abusive to their pets). The collar and lead he cobbled together was not a long term solution, which was why it fell apart once they caught up with the thief. So, way back in history, just like humans domesticating wolves, early Gallifreyans (and I think it is generally regarded as Rassilon who is the one who achieved this) somehow trapped and trained these energy beings and harnessed them to power TARDISs. By the time the Doctor stole his knackered old Type 40, they would have got to the point of being able to breed them and train them more effectively.
@@jeffpraterJSF All life is fueled, living beings being a combination of a mixture of chemicals that are being energized ~ An explanation of something like that? ( though a few years ago, 2017/18 I think. some organisms were collected from beneath the ocean floor, deep enough to not be effected by heat, nor light. And researchers have yet to find a way to make them react to energy. They’ve been unlike anything else so far. So it’ll be pretty wild to see what and if Dr. Who expands further, although when things aren’t stated it does make it a fun conversation, and gets more people to think & discuss) Bringing up energy’s at that magnitude would make it pretty incomprehensible. Our Sun that’s far from the biggest or most powerful has produced such insane & mind boggling results, from dinosaurs, plant, and humans, so the potential environment from basically a constant supernova ( now, it’s estimated that supernova’s explosions last 100 seconds. If it was permanent or a simple billion years, I’d have to imagine that it’d tear this dimension into something else) Apparently, there’s a pretty solid theory for a Perpetual motion device, using a singular black hole’s gravitational pull. TLDR: Just talking out of my ass, aside from the under the ocean organisms & supernova’s durations. To clarify it’s only theorized that supernova’s explosions last for an estimated few minutes, but it’s on such a massive scale that after it’s peak brightness it will take a month or so for it to dim. ( There are (mathematical) proofs to back up this theory, but as there are so so many variables it’s not precise, as it’s the mean for common sized stars going supernova) just pointing out, if something so powerful can be around long enough to fuel an environment where a form of life can develop it’d be absolute utter madness. Life as we currently know it, mimics galaxies and stars shockingly well. So the phone booth being a live would probably not be viewed as we view life but more akin to “constants”. Just thought it’d be fun to throw some of this out there in case it sparks another’s thoughts ~
@@jeffpraterJSF if my other reply was too long, my guess is that having a perpetual supernova to have some constants long enough for a sort of environment to develop, or that it would tear the fabric of our reality/dimension which may be an environment in and of itself, it already hops through time like someone learning to walk for the first time, or it may be in a position similar to when life on earth still lacked vision, overtime many pathways developed vision due to it being exceptionally useful in this environment. ( Still is mind blowing some birds actually see magnetic fields, or how midnight zone fish who couldn’t survive in the twilight zone, developed little lightbulbs to help with their vision ( super crazy they even have eyes in the first place) Or possibly something akin to how some view the potential for AI to achieve a the title of “living”. Where it is interactive, makes decisions, develops. But it’s still so much different than what we currently classify as life. ( Some say reproduction is a requirement for life, but then dismiss cloning or how some frogs, lizards, fish and even mice can reproduce a-sexually under certain conditions) if the phone booth is the only one of its kind, it may clear that condition by doing something similar. But then again, that whole thing gets squashed since time isn’t a factor with it. Still ended up being a lot of random ass information. But the main point being about it’s environment where it developed allowed it to happen. A lot of aspects would be the opposite of space. Where instead of a bunch of freezing nothing with energy balls scattered, it’d be an insane amount of heat & “brightness” so much so things would probably have to develop in such a way to cool itself/control the speed of molecules., But I’m just an idiot. So I just can’t imagine that amount of energy being able to produce something that could exist in the universe, but more so would come from a completely different environment to be able to interact in this one, and it being intelligent life it’d have to constantly adjust in every single aspect of physics to be able to even exist with that much firepower running through it.
he does it often. he has a little information on a topic and then speaks as if its absolute truth, often times its not even proven science but just theory's, but he doesn't seem to understand the difference between provable science and speculative theory's.
I think most literary methods for time travel are based on the wormhole theory: you create a tunnel between the destination and the origin. By that theory, you can traverse back and forth via the tunnel provided the tunnel is sustained. However, the initial activation of the time machine is important since, based on what I have read, the origin can only be after when the machine is activated as a way to counter paradoxes from travelling in the past. The concept of a "fixed point" that cannot be changed is necessary as in all types of travel for navigation after all.
Well all I will say on here is that first we need to understand what time really is in order to manipulate it to travel through it.. and we just don't know what "time" really actually is yet.. and second there's a lot more to it than just back and forth through time.. you have to look at it on different axis.. and what I mean by that is where was the Earth at in the solar system at that time you want to go back to.. because if you try to travel through time you might get to that time, but the Earth wont be there, you understand what I'm saying? So it's not just moving through time from one moment to another, but moving from your zero location point to your destination location point as well.. Youre not just moving through time so you need to move your location in space as well see what im saying.. we're flying through the solar system at thousands of miles an hour.. or so they say.. So you would also have to put into account the position of the Earth in the solar system in order to be in that spot in that time.. Otherwise youd be floating in space when you got there.. Like for example, this might blow your mind.. Say 10yrs from now in dec 2032 you decide to travel back to today.. If you dont move your location in space you will be transported to 10yrs into the past to today but remain floating in the same location in space as you were when you left in 2032, which is where the earth will be 10yrs from today.. Because the only thing that changed was time.. So you would travel 10yrs to the past to be where the earth will be 10yrs in the future, so thats why you also need to move your position in 3 dimensional space.. Unless youre fast forwarding time or rewinding time (which could be entirely different) then its possible that youd be flowing with the movement of space as time was changing forward or backward.. it gets tricky.. Space and time should kind of go together because of how everything is constantly moving through space.. the earth spins as it rotates around the sun, as our solar system is rotating and flying through the milky way, as the milky way is flying through the universe.. So nothing is ever really in a fixed position in space.. But i don't want to give out all my theories on here..
Bruv, I just watched that film yesterday and it's one of the best sci-fi movies I've ever watched. The scene where the guy slowly unzips his pants to jump on the butt plug had me spitting out my coffee.
The thing about time travel is that you have to account for space as well. You have to account for the expansion of space, the relative drift in locations over time, etc. The power to travel back would be massive, but you would also need a linear travel element that would put you in the right place. If you went back, let's say, a few years - but in a static location, you're in the vacuum of space and Earth hasn't gotten here yet.
You’re just applying the big bang theory which isn’t true. The past present and future are all happening at once. So space in theory would have no effect on time travel. One thing You said though is yes i would assume you could go so far back the earth isn’t even there yet but again everything is happening all at once.
Yeah in reality the delorean tracks would have led directly into space a million miles from Earth. Everything is moving at a ridiculous pace. The galaxy, the solar system, Earth etc.
Even more is that other civilizations would have invented time travel already therefore we can see whatever we want the pyramids and more. That theory he proposed was crap and totally not possible for reasons of aliens already invented it millions of years before we did.
@@korn-tv2032 I think your half way right but the thing is in a time travel you have to stop traveling and at that point you would have to find your way back to earth
Saw Rogan drop in on Tony’s Phoenix shows. Went to both shows and Rogan did 2 almost completely different 45min sets. Tony crushed. William Montgomery murdered super hard too. EPIC night of comedy!
Very impressive human but also a agent of the machine, if you know anything about the information war you would know you don't get to rise in this system without someone having you in check
There's probably not two lesser-qualified people to discuss the potential intricacies of time travel with than this 21st century, real-life version of Beavis and Butthead
This is where you have it wrong James, two cartoon wetalds are EXACTLY the people who should be discussing time travel. Because it's fictional nonsense that only a pair of complete cognitive degenerates should be discussing. Entropy can be slowed not completely stopped, and never reversed. So time travel is not possible.
Well unless you are a scientist, psychologist or theoretical physicist then wouldn't you in turn be too unqualified to claim whether these two people are qualified to discuss theoretical time travel? You don't have to have a PhD to discuss a subject. Like you for instance, I think that your response is infantile with no actual counter points, just a broad comment escribing them as unintelligent teenagers. That to me would signify a level of envy because it isnt like you can claim to know them personally. Now I'm no psychologist myself, it's just how I interpret the information I've been given. Just like Rogan having a conversation about time travel.
@@mitchellpierce6233 No, beavis and butthead is an apt description. Instead of yes anding Joe Rogan, they’re just like “woah my mind is blown, dude.” They’re great on other topics, just not this one.
@@BartvG88 It's fking time travel bud. You act like it's projectile motion. It's way more in the realm of science fiction than actual science. To think he needs a "degree" in order to comment on something you'd find in the realm of a star trek episode, is dumb.
Hi Joe, I did some time travel while I was dead and it is a matter of thought and sight. The further you go or concrete on the more you see. I can't do it now cause I am alive again lol But Ya! It's possible without the body and it is instant, but that is not possible to explain unless you can come back and even then it's very hard to explain instant movent without living it.
It's really really hard to imagine what kind of universe that would like that with the way Joe is describing it. I'm not sure it would be as positive as it sounds coming from Joe with that kind of chaos. Obviously what he's describing is not possible though, but it's interesting to think about.
@@bobjrfdny7360 I'm pretty sure it's still on you tube somehow. Tremendous stuff, affecting us all, especially when we're all blamed and blackmailed by with the CO2 BS, and it's NOT the cause of the temperature change, chem trails are, proven 50 times over by now.
Once again I'll say Joe is one of my favorite people, and an important voice in free thinking. The book he refers to "Kurt Godel meets Einstein" is an exercise in pure mathematics & philosophy. Not a practical theory. Kurt Godel was a mathematician not a physicist.
" No one would invent anything because they could just go to a time when someone had already invented it." Well Joe.. That's what we call a paradox buddy.
The problem I've always had with time travel is that if you are on Earth (or any stellar object) and travel back in time, Earth won't be in the same place. This means you will be floating in space at the point where Earth will be in your 'present'. That is, unless your time machine suddenly exists at all points between your present and your destined time, which means you could kill a lot of people as you 'drive' backwards through time.
Exactly. Because just as the Earth moves around the sun, our sun (and in fact out entire solar system that is tethered to it) moves around the Galaxy across the galactic plane. Any time machine worth it's salt must account for this stellar drift otherwise if you jumped back to when the pyramids were built you'd end up in the right time but the wrong place. Somewhere in empty space trillions of miles or perhaps even light years from Earth. A lot of people don't realize our star isn't stationary and it's actually hurtling through the Galaxy at insane speeds.
Technically, we could travel back to the day of the Philadelphia experiment took place. It was purported that the ship traveled in space/time in which case that is the earliest known date of time travel.
The simple proof that time travel is impossible and will always be is that if it was invented in the future the future people would have come to us to tell us about it.
@@4HiSeth and according to quantum physics any area outside of the known universe, like past the horizon where it’s ever expanding, is just another unique universe with its own variation. So in theory there truly is an infinite number of universes, and there are an infinite number of yous.
A time machine also has to move through space in an instant too. The machine pops out of time and back into time at the same place in space but the Earth itself has moved on from that point in space. It would be like jumping off a moving train and the train keeps on going without you.
Idk why the newest narrative on theoretical time travel is that you can't go back, but you can go forward... that is literally all anyone keeps saying when commenting on it. Man, we don't know anything about anything... least of all time travel, so why the fuck anyone would comment about the specificity on the direction that time flows and how you can travel through it like they actually know blows my fucking mind lol. Most scientific explanations are theory. Theory... as in a guess based off of other theory usually. I mean good guesses. But... still guessing. ALL OF THE TIME we are updating shit we thought was one way but turns out wasn't even close. Tbh the new thing that replaces the old theory is probably wrong too usually >_>
Some “systems” teach that past and future have very real, tangible existence. The past does not “disappear”, but in fact it still exists beyond what we are able to perceive with our normal senses. According to this line of thought the problem with time travel is we are looking for a machine which exists in our normal three-dimensional space and can be used by normal three-dimensional senses. Instead, it says, we should be looking inward-that the only possible method of time travel is through higher states of consciousness.
One hypothesis that is nearly never talked about regarding time travel is this: going back in time would deconstruct the would-be time machine itself, and would regress the person inside the machine in age as well. So the main point is that with a potential time "machine" of some sort (one where you'd have at least one occupant inside, a 'pilot') would go back in time let's say 10 years. The hypothesis in question posits this: 1) It takes, for example, 7 years to build the time machine. 2) The pilot is 30 years-old when the machine is built. 3) The pilot goes in the machine, and inputs a date back in time to 10 years exactly, and starts the time travel process. 4) Immediately, the machine itself, its own assemblage of components, etc, is being deconstructed in the exact mirror / opposite order in which it was assembled during its construction. At a speed that corresponds to the one in which the time travelling is occurring. 5) The painting (outside, if any) would have probably been the last thing done on the machine. So it's the first thing from outside that starts to 'undo' itself (in the opposite order to which it was done). 6) Every bolts, circuits, etc, everything inside the machine is "de-made". 7) As this 'un-do' process is happening, the pilot already started to de-age as well. 8) Inside the body, all the processes related to aging, cellular degradation, etc, is all being reversed in the opposite direction. 9) Now, danger zone: the machine was built in 7 years, it didn't "exist" even on a blueprint by the 8th year back in time; yet the machine is going to 10 years back. It won't. 10) By the 7th year of backwards time travel is done, the machine is essentially in pieces, in all of its own parts, disassembled. The time travel itself can no longer happen and the process is over. 11) Whether this implies that the pilot would somehow die is up to debate, but in a scenario of pilot survival, he or she would have only travelled 7 years instead of 10, and would have de-aged for 7 years inside the machine (or however long it would have taken until the actual time travel process itself could no longer be in effect by a functioning machine). In essence, the hypothesis proposes that going back in time reverses all Motion in the opposite direction. Anything, and everything that moves in the universe also follows suit. It's not just a 'localized' effect. It's the actual "Arrow of Time"'s own timeline across the universe that would be reserved. A bit like... rewinding a movie back to 'x' amount of time and watching everything that unfolded happening in reverse. The motion is inevitable either in one or the other direction (forward, or backward in time, the arrow of time will move), but there's no possibility to separate one self from that backwards, reserve motion effect that going back in time would cause. And that's the hypothesis.
That's why there's the rule you aren't allowed to go back to before time machine was invented. The rest is a-OK, once the time machine is invented it basically operates within the new space-time reality where such a vehicle exists.
@@M419.99 Well yes. But the general idea behind the hypothesis in question is that even in the event that an actual time machine wouldn't be necessary to travel back in time ("circumventing" the original problem of not being able to travel in time further back than from the moment the machine was invented), that it would still be impossible for the person who travels back in time to travel further back than the person's own age would allow it. In the scenario that the Arrow of Time follows suit with the backwards motion of - essentially - everything, it would mean that the very person going back in time (even without a "machine" to do so) wouldn't be able to go further back than say... 10 years, if you're 30 years of age. Because if you DO get to point B and travelled back successfully, you'll be 20 years-old. If you wanted to go back in time during the time of the dinosaurs to watch them, you wouldn't be able to. In fact (within the scenario that the hypothesis suggests) you could potentially kill yourself by effectively turning you into an embryo, or worse, you would simply cease to exist during the time travel attempt. Now, let's say you forget people, and try to send things back in time. This hypothesis applies to everything (organic or not, doesn't matter). You could try to send a modern car back in time by 100 years (again, let's forget the "machine" to do this with for now); it wouldn't be possible simply because the car would deconstruct itself anyway during the process of backwards time traversal. If the car took 3 weeks to make, then it can only travel back in time by 3 weeks until it becomes irrelevant entirely. Beyond that point you only send back in time raw materials that were used to create the components to build the car. Now let's say we find a giant rock, we carbon date it to be 700,000 years, at least. We could send that rock back in time 699,999 years and it would be just fine (or course assuming some leeway in number of precise years that were needed for the rock itself to form in the first place). All of this applies to everything. The very time "machine" itself, the pilot(s) inside the machine, or people or things even without a machine. Essentially, we, the universe, is 'bound' to the Arrow of Time, not just the time travel machine itself. But, of course, for now, because we wouldn't know how to travel back in time without a machine to do this with, so we conclude (for the moment) that we wouldn't be able to travel back in time further than when the machine itself was made and finished. But the hypothesis goes way beyond that.
@@lyrand6408 That's one way to look at it. Another is that the atoms you're made up of and the time machine are made up of have existed probably since the Big Bang happened, and they can travel backwards in time to that point no problem. The only 2 true functions of the time machine then is 1) to keep the atom's current configuration stable (ie you do not deconstruct), and 2) get the atoms moving the in the correct direction (ie backwards through time). The atoms will do the rest. You will still exist because what you are made of has existed for eons.
That doesn't make any sense. Why would the machine deconstruct itself? If your time traveling your essentially creating a pocket of space around yourself and the outside would have no effect on you. You're not traveling through time per say, but to another point in space that has already occurred. Since time is linear you cannot return to the point before you time travelled, only by not affecting anything whatsoever, could you return to a point identical to the one you left. Any alterations would rewrite the future. The only argument to be made is whether the 'time' you left behind ceases to exist, or a parallel universe is created and both exist simultaneously.
😂 This is one of the funniest conversation I’ve ever heard Joe talking about time travel where everyone can time travel, time stops being linear to people and even become immortal! Bert: We’re would you like to go to in the past Joe: You can’t, that’s just unrealistic version of time travel Bwahahahaha 😂 ☠️
I'll try to explain the logic that joe is using: You can't travel to before time travel was invented because they don't have time machines in, say, ancient Egypt. "No road has been built", once a place has time machines, you can travel there. I think this is just as spatially important as it is temporally, ie you can only travel to a time AND place where a time machine exists. Ie, time machines are gateways to other time machines. Not saying it's true, just that it isn't as logically inconsistent as you are implying.
@@BlastinRope 😂 dude it was not difficult to understand what Joe was saying. What’s funny is that he has a theory about time travel that’s as fantastical as any other theory. But he says Bert going back in time is unrealistic……..in a time travel hypothetical discussion! 😂 Like trying to explain how gravity works. Joe says it’s giants worms underground, sucking you down to earth, Bert says he thinks he thinks it’s giants magnets underground pulling you down, then Joe says “well that’s just unrealistic” it’s freakin hilarious!!!! BTW: The whole no roads there so you cant go back beyond that point is pretty weak. The whole point of a “time travel machine” is that you can go back and forth through time. The machine itself is design to move through time. As far as people know what is required is some kind of energy so powerful, that it can go past the speed of light, which presently relatively says it’s not possible.
@@EDTGO1 In their theory they think that time points that can be visited cannot precede the first established checkpoint IE: The first point in time that the mechanism was developed that could be used to traverse time itself. Like a checkpoint in a video game that saves your history so that you can revert to a previous marked coordinate should you perish unexpectedly. Perhaps either theory is possible and the first generation will have bounds and limitations in their time travel until the science and tech evolve with the second generation and we can breach those thresholds.
@@radfoo72 but once there is a First generation of a time travel machine you can go to the future and hop into a generation 5000 time machine that can go back before the first checkpoint
@@radfoo72 once again, it’s pretty clear what he said, the funny part is that he called 1 theory unrealistic….when BOTH theories are equally as unrealistic. Like a Catholic saying Scientologist have pretty cooky idea of how the world came to be. If you want to be technical, it would be more realistic to think you can go back in time, then forward. But the point is that it was funny when Joe told Bert that’s unrealistic, when he then talks about distorting timelines and even being immortal.
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"You can't travel where there are no roads." - Joe
"Where we're going, you don't need roads." - Doc Brown
This is the only response for that thank you
had me laughing so hard
Underrated comment
Someone has to pave the new path.
Internet winner.
Joe talking like he's done it and knows what he's talking about love it
I know. My understanding of time travel is, you cannot change anything in the past once it has happen.
😆😆😆 he needs to stop smoking that shit
I mean, I wouldn't call Tony fucking Hinchcliffe or Brunt Kool-Aid an "expert" on anything theoretical science based either.
People should understand that this is embedded advertising. It's not even illegal as long as Joe doesn't get paid for it. Tony probably got paid a check to bring this up and how he went to see it.. and boom. You have an "organic" ad, on the biggest podcast in the world that is now getting spread 'word of mouth" as if it's a good movie. Wake up folks
Joe is one of the few people who keeps saying he's an idiot but then still proceeds to runs his mouth as if otherwise.
Love how Joe's imagination for the unlimited possibilities of time travel goes straight to winning an argument with his wife.
he probably believes its easier to create time travel than winning an argument with the wife
It's the only reason to due it
But then said go to library instead of looking it up on the phone
Yeah and we all know winning an argument with your wife will always be total science fiction 🤷♂️
Joe lost all credibility when he said he won an argument with his wife and she thought he was the smartest man in the world... lol
Imagine traveling a million years in the future to just fall right into a void of space where the earth used to be 😮
Again falls into you can’t travel where there’s no roads, you can’t travel to where there’s nothing because, as stated, there’s nothing, to travel to
@@theamazingwebhead6453but there would be something to travel to lol just because earth stops existing doesn’t mean nothing exists anymore. There’s a whole universe. Also, I think the earth has far more than a million years left but I’m not sure
@@tianna1116 You misunderstand, you can’t travel to a point in time to a place that has no destination for you to travel to, the destination on earth being another Time Machine to for the one you’re currently at to take you too, if there’s none there, which if earth was just gone, the Time Machine wouldn’t be there either, so you can’t travel to it
I wonder if time travel ever gets achieved, how dangerous would it be if you don’t end up in the right place?
@@theamazingwebhead6453 wrong.. he stated when the time machine is invented you can travel forward into time because time is all at once at the point of the time machine creation..
Bert interjects likes an 11 year old that walked in on the adults talking:
“I love time travel” 👨👨👦
Thanks Bert
"You have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know..."
@@Knucky_Sammich 🤣
“His dad died in Vietnam??”
@Science Revolution sounds like someone that knows where the time machine is being hidden would say.
Give it up, Science
ua-cam.com/video/u1zdE7qaMHA/v-deo.html hits harder too
Seen this one next week good show.
Wow this is awesome, I been waiting on Joe to speak on this.
I like that Joe explains time travel & Bert still doesn’t comprehend it & asks a question disregarding everything Joe just said lol
morgellons nanotech fibers , acts like wires in the body was in the masks , nose swabs &vaccines , it self replicates grows and communicates with 5g , think eyes as camera ears as microphones
I laughed at that. I was like, "Dude, didn't you listen to a word he just said?"
Bert Kreischer is yet another inexplicable success story, to quote the Late Greg Giraldo. You never see any truly great comedians laughing till their face turns red, similar to the Jimmy Kimmel laugh, just on a fat guy. Anybody who takes off their shirt during stand-up, isn't a stand-up comedian
Joe still good have gone along with the question though!
Bert understood like 4 words in this whole conversation
He had no idea what Joe was talking about, but in all fairness it's hard to envision a world with time travelers everywhere at all different times. With Joes theory why would future people be from that time period? There's no reason technology would be better in the future than in the past. It's really hard to imagine a universe like this.
O 4:51
And one of those words was he’s name 😂😂
This really takes me back 😂
I love Joe’s imagination and how he can just talk about this stuff like he’s an authority on these super advanced technologies or something
time traveling would never work
@@jogobetter oh look we have another one
He doesn't talk like he's an authority... he admitted to not fully understanding most of what he quoted @6:05. They are just having fun musing over the idea, talking about theories, and sharing ideas from what they have learned or read.
@@skaughtii “That’s an unrealistic form of time travel” that’s not a statement from authority ? He does this on many things
Is it really so hard to become an expert on a theory?
I love the way Joe lays out the rules for something as ludicrous as time travel.
With such confidence 😂
Those drugs. Haha.
he makes sense though.
He must of not seen Time Cop..............
@@bigdaddygamestudio5007 not really. joe is making it out like time travel is a contract, where you can only travel in time from when its invented, not farther back. its not a contract, which dictates a start date, and imo it seems more plausible that you would be able to time travel to a time that already passed, not a time that hasnt happened yet.
I like it when Joe talks about sci-fi.
We knew it's finally here now ua-cam.com/video/n72kkazUgAs9/v-deo.html
I love when he talks about science fiction but acts like it's reality and real 🤣
If it compels you click on the Ouroboros Symbol
He should be on Ancient Aliens
Yeah this is my favorite Joe second to conspiracy theories Joe
As always a great group of guests and a really interesting subject. But like the first 1960's Time Machine Movie, the machine didn't actually move, other than thanks the Morlocks and the film makers must of known the earth spins, so unless he mapped out every landing point through space time the earth wasn't moving in their realisation of the subject.
my fav podcast
that dude legitimately taking a crack at inventing time travel would be a great guest
You’d end up getting a guy who made a machine like the one in Napoleon Dynamite with the crystals.
He would be a great guest if he succeeded... which he didn't
Seconds, minutes, hours. They're all based on days. Days revolve around the sun cycles. The rotary of the earth and the cycles of the sun age us at a specific rate. And everything I just said is an equation for time travel.
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@@calholli how do you know
The way Bert said, 'oh i love time travel,' made it seem like hes travelled thru time many times before.
Isn’t blacking out basically time travel?
Being stupid can also feel like time travel
"CONFESSION OF A TIME TRAVLER THE MAN FROM 3036"
THIS WILL BLOW YOUR MINE
Wasted my time
Id rather use dynamite to blow my mine. Easier to find ore and gems that way rather than reading a book to it.
That's a mockumentory
Great Scott!
Bert: just for fun where would you go in the past to have a look?
Joe: that’s unrealistic but I know you can go 1 million years in the future though
I know right. Sometimes Joe's ego gets in his own way. It's like he's half open minded and doesn't realize that arrogance doesn't accommodate intellectual superiority.
He was extra agro this episode may be the roids.🤣 Love you tho Joe! Just messing with ya lol
@@Coltavena a lot of people have moved onto Normand, Gillis, and Theo’s stuff because they’re all very self-deprecating and open about their problems + super funny.
(But, Joe still gets the best guests, so of course I’m gonna click on The Black Keys 😅)
totally agree. that comment didn’t make any sense and you could see it in the other guys face in his look of confusion & silence 😅
it does make sense in relation to the theory tho 🤔
I wish Joe would have more clips like this. I’ve watch all his alien/time travel/etc clips multiple times and I need more!
Oh, bro, you need to check out the _Isaac Arthur_ channel 🔭🔮 💫
I agree. Really not even into that but the way he gets so pumped up talking about it makes me want to listen
Absolutely love it as well, can't wait for him to bring Bob and all those guys back for a new one!
@@jamiejenkins5643 a u
I need another fix, too. He led me to finding out more about the Sumerian Creation Story and Gnosticism and now I see how all religions and myths are connected.
Watching this while taking a poop and now my leg’s a sleep…thanks a lot Joe
He’s thought so hard about this and I love it 😂
I love how Joe fantasies about time travelling to win an argument against his wife xD
Its like he has planned to travel through time to shut her down 😂🤣😁🤣
Hasn't every married guy had that thought at some point.
Who the fuck is harradidus
@@skreign Herodotus, Greek historian
That Carlos Mencia Jab was hilarious! 🤣🤣
We knew it's finally here now ua-cam.com/video/n72kkazUgAs0/v-deo.html
Very interesting!
Thats some trippy viewing wen stoned amigos
The movie is not about time-travel, it is about an endless amount of universes that coexist at the same moment
Which is probably happening right now
What movie ?
@@thesnailiscoming..5736 everything everywhere all at once
Exactly man. She’s realizing that she has to work with what she’s got.
Yes simultaneous parallel realities that is directed by your thoughts, feelings, and actions. - The Harmonic Reactor
by Marina Jacobi and The Pleadians
‘That’s an unrealistic version of time travel’ 😂😂😂 love it. The reason I come to JRE right there
Yeah, because going back in time is different than going forward into the future? Can someone explain to me what's funny about this? 79 people liked this mans comment.
@@aShamelessHigh because time travel itself is unrealistic? Lolol
@@justinheller7541 Time travel doesn't just mean going forward/ back in time to a different year, to go from one side of the galaxy to another you'd have to be going so fast that it's practically time traveling. Going back in time truly feels unrealistic, but going forward does not. One of the scientist guys on JRE said he thinks we're 100,000 years before we have the technology to go so fast it's considered time travel. Maybe it's just me being hopeful of something cool that I'd never see, but I actually believe him. Guess some people find it more realistic than others.
Time is an arrow that goes only in 1 direction, it knows no concept of reversal or backwards. The definition of time just means it is ever-going, ever-ticking, ever-progressing. Time exists only because there is no reversal and stagnation.
I don't think time travel will ever be achieved...either in the past or in the futur...even though it is probably theorically possible...
Movie was spectacular
Time travel could work in so many different ways if you sit down and think about how many possibilities there could be many consequnces
I love the fact that joe has thought out the entire process for the idea of contemporary time travel. He literally laid out rules 🤣🤣🤣
college stoner kid Joe is my favorite Joe
U can tell u REALLY pondered the idea
Yeah, like why did he say you couldnt go back in time? Only forward why?
@@RedPilledwDMT He explained. You can't travel where there are no roads. Time travel to the past can only go as far back as when a method for time travel was invented. Or at least that's the theory. It's all hypothetical speculation.
@@RedPilledwDMT listen, Joe is a lot smarter than you. he listens to tons of books
Time travel to win arguments with your wife is definitely the most critical thing to do. 😂
The only way to win is to say something that doesn't decrease one's chances of getting laid.
@@RodCornholio 🎯
You’re saying Johnny Depp is a time traveller? 😱
It's like thinking about a bathroom and being there before the thought is finished completely.
Just imagine starting a huge project, sending someone to the future when it should be complete, find out all their mistakes, what worked, what didn’t, etc. Then going back and sharing all that info. The point we create time travel, technology would advance tenfold
McKenna realized the moment time travel is invented, a huge number of time travelers from the future will instantaneously appear. Everyone who went back in time to witness “the invention of time travel” would travel to that time and place, and appear for the inventor, all at once.
Exactly what happened to Rick. Season 3, episode 1
Everytime, everywhere, all at once
Time is the road needed not the machine used
It boggles my mind really
@@GWO90 well said.
"The Forever War" is an old book that time travel fans should read. Plot is there is finally a legit contact with aliens and a battle starts. We invent ships that can travel lightyears in seconds and start almost an cosmic island hopping campaign to try and attack the alien homeworld. Everytime a solider travels to a battle and comes back to Earth YEARS pass because they traveled in lightyears. Very good read. An older book from the 70's but beyond its time.
Don’t they make it into a movie called “the tomorrow war?
@@andresmarte2172 No, the Tomorrow War was based off something else. I think Paramount picked up the rights to make a Forever War movie... but nothing has been mentioned about it since 2016. The book came out in 1974 and is still one of the best sci-fi novels I've ever read. Joe Haldeman is the author.
Thanks a lot for the suggestion .
Reminds me of Enders Game
Time is an arrow that goes only in 1 direction, it knows no concept of reversal or backwards. The definition of time just means it is ever-going, ever-ticking, ever-progressing. Time exists only because there is no reversal and stagnation.
I love how impossible time travel is like it will never happen but we still talk about it
It’s 100% going to happen, being able to watch a UA-cam video and flying on planes in the 1500s was looked at as way more than impossible imagine 500 years from now
I came back to rewatch this and as soon as I heard Bert’s voice I’m switching to the slow Mo guys
When Bert initially says "I love time travel" I knew instantly that he was thinking about "Back to the future" and nothing more complicated than that
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Joe and Bert want to have 2 total different conversations about time travel. I wish I could've heard Bert's convo. Thanks Joe.
Joe was a dick to the guy the whole episode
Jesus Christ man. Bert has hundreds of hours of podcasts. On his own podcasts and on other podcasts. 90% of the conversation is about him. About what he is doing, what he did yesterday and what he did years ago. Joe was talking about a specific concept and Bert completely didn't understand it so Joe explains it as simple as possible.
Nah Bert is boring af. The people who reacts "I'm so stupid that I don't wanna talk about this topic" immediately are the most intellectually & creatively incompetent. Just let your mind runs wild for a bit, ground your arguments with some logic and see where it goes. It's not terribly hard, you just need to take yourself a little bit less seriously.
you guys are overreacting fr 😂
He says he’d love to speak on your show, I say he’d be a wonderful guest, killer backstory as well
“That’s an unrealistic theatrical version of time travel” might be my favorite joe Rohan quote
The fact that we can record audio and capture real-life footage in real time is something that would have been laughed at 300 years ago. They would tell you it was impossible. Imagine what we could do 300 years from now, with things that seem almost impossible in this day and age.
Like living forever wish i could stay in my 20s forever lol
Tbh whats really "impossible" in todays age? Most of the things we can think of are a possibility just around the corner.
Keep thinking. You're closer than you know.
And who’s inventing this when everyone is obsessed with social media instead of science?
@@thephilosopher7173 We can do and build anything. Einstein manifested something that nobody thought was possible. He manifested and created something that never existed
My question on Time Travel has always been: How will location be determined for the time you are traveling to? The entire universe is in constant motion. Travel a million years in the future and the Earth will definitely not be in the same location.
Imagine crash landing on someones car 😂
IKR? You either have to recreate the past first THEN travel to it, or take the ENTIRE current universe you're in and recreate it when you travel back. People forget that it's not just time nor space, it's SPACE-TIME. The conundrum we often have is how we would perceive it, IMO it would be akin to you jumping off a moving object.
Exactly what I said, your on a journey to die in space in that exact location your travelling from.
You too old to be thinking this. The earth is not moving buddy. Never has never will
But space and time is connected right?
Wow that's hard for me to imagine all of that just went over my head
4 mins in & my mind is spinning🤯
Bert: I love time travel.
Also Bert: If I think about it, I'll get a panic attack
Asking Joe Rogan, Bert and Tony about Time Travel is like putting a beetle inside a jar with a broken samsung phone and wait to see when it fixes it.
lmao ! 👍😂🍻
😂😂😂😂 wtf
ua-cam.com/video/u1zdE7qaMHA/v-deo.html hits harder too
Underrated comment right here 😆
joes smart asf
There was a character in MIB who could experience all parallel universes simultaneously.
If you could model everything in a virtual reality perfectly, and we had a perfect understanding of all of the laws of physics, we could definitely run the clock back.
Thats true but we would need a perfect understanding of history biology physics so another 100 centuries
@@edelfelix7333 Absolutely, and maybe never even. In fact, it may even be physically impossible given the laws of nature (ie, there may not even be enough energy).
@@Beegeezy144 yeah and i laughed out hard when he said a theoretical working Model
Time travel is one of those things that sounds extremely fun but only if you’re the only one can do it. Everyone being able to time travel sounds like absolute chaos. It seems like we would be taking one step forward and only one step forward because everyone would keep reversing time. I’m glad time travel can and will never exist because it sounds like it would destroy humanity
Or it would just create a ton of alternate realities.
Someone would take exclusive control of that machine, at the moment of its creation. We wouldn't have everyone moving everywhere in time.
That thing will jam within few minutes and people will not be able to come back🤣
Nah you'll keep moving forward in your timeline and the person time traveling will enter another
I always send to my others selfs outthere on what mistakes not to repeat. hopefully it works and hopefuly they all think same. I want to be the perfect God.
One interesting theory on time travel is how it relates to space travel. If you were to time travel in the future or past you would also have to calculate the position of earth so that you wouldn’t be relocated inside the earth or in space since the earth is constantly moving.
This is the million dollar question, we are moving in space freely, the earth is moving. It would take an immense amount of energy to support time travel. And you hit it right on the nail. I believe black holes are the closest things we have for time traveling as not even light can escape. And if you go inside a black hole and you look outside. You can see a mirror reflection of your body falling in. And the person outside will only see you going in although you’re moving at a much faster rate. You can see light bending and time passing. We would need to harness the power of the sun like joe said or a black hole to reposition the earth if we want to go backwards in time. But will this affect everyone? That’s also another question.. if one person time travels will it also affect everyone else?
@@johnappleseed9290 I've got a pretty good amount of high level physics and earth sciences under my belt. I think time travel will happen at much smaller scales than most realize, and thus the amount of energy (or processing power) will be less. It's not really time travel though, it's more of the holodeck concept in star trek. There is no defeating father time, it's against the laws of physics. What we can do is recreate past events identically as long as they were "recorded". Rogan is right, the future will cease to really exist in a conventional sense. The arrow of time will still go forward, but those events in the future will no longer be set in stone. I don't think individuals will ever get their hands on this tech, as it will be a massive international multi-decade project like CERN is. Honestly, altering the space time around us through a project like this is our only hope out of this climate change crisis. This is another reason why Putin is a pile of shit. We are in this thing together. It's time we start figuring it out. I think we are a lot closer to this sci-fi like tech than everyone realizes.
Here is another crackpot blaming his woes on Putin, the problem is as old as time, as long as there is Russia and its natural resources , someone will try to take it. Good luck with that.
@@garneroutlaw1 What climate crisis? Can we please stop with the alarmist language when the evidence points to changes in coastal lines and temperatures being a natural, cyclical phenomenon. We DO have issues with plastic pollution and waste disposal. It would be far more productive to tackle those issues than handwringing over temperature changes we can’t control or prevent.
Time travel will never happen .
This sounds like conversations friends and I have had back in our teenage years while smoking bud.
"everything everywhere all at once" ... good movie
I really like when Joe tackles topics like these. It's his unbiased comments on the topic. And i am really looking forward to hearing what he has to say about the recent Congressional Hearing about UFOS.
All UFO's are gov tech
all this UFO stuff had me in a chokehold growing up but now I’m older I’m starting to think it’s all the governments doing, advanced tech etc. shit low key makes me sad lol
What the fuck is there to say it's a bunch of obfuscation and always will be, until anyone involved is dead and their family fully grown too and old and won't be affected.
morgellons nanotech fibers , acts like wires in the body was in the masks , nose swabs &vaccines , it self replicates grows and communicates with 5g , think eyes as camera ears as microphones
@@morgzyy sorry buddy but there’s no technology we or anybody has on this planet that can go from 60000 feet to sea level of in under 2 seconds then submerge into the ocean. If we had that we would own the sky’s and the seas.
I’m surprised Bert didn’t chime in with a one up story about the time he time travelled back in 97 with Johnny Knoxville And gave him the idea for jackass
to think that watching vieos like this is already like having a time machine peaking into what happened in the past.
The thought of the infinite universe relaxes me lol makes all of the world's problems completely insignificant
Bert loves time travel. He also loves pens that write smooth.
Theories of time travel with Bert and Ernie 😂.
Rofl.
Yo Joe you mentioned a road needs to build in order for time travel to exist and I agree with that statement. In regards to that comment in the future it can be possible to for people switch bodies. This road is always open. Military vet I'm a fan
This reminds me of the movie with Tesla The prestige
In Doctor Who (which I'd argue is generally the most scientific version of time travel in pop culture) the time machine they have is powered by multiple stars which have been time-looped to perpetually repeat the moment they went supernova inside a Dyson sphere for a near endless supply of energy. They then used this to create a small pocket universe that detaches itself from our universe, then reenters our universe at a different point in space time, essentially teleporting across time
Hey brother. I’m not the biggest Doctor Who fan these days but I’m pretty sure in a Matt Smith episode he says the tardis was grown on gallifrey and it’s a living sentient being. You know how that would work into being a star going supernova?
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The entities that power a TARDIS are living beings of Arctron energy, who the Time Lords effectively ‘domesticated’ by locking into devices. What you see as ‘the TARDIS console’ is more like a dog collar or cage with equipment for controlling and manipulating the entity within, which has the power to move through time and space at will. The rest of it is the dimensional tech to make it bigger on the inside plus equipment to ensure the passengers survive in the hostile environments of space and the time vortex.
Most TARDISs are supposed to be piloted by up to 8 Time Lords each (hence why there are numerous panels, also why the Doctor, as usually the only pilot, does a lot of running around pressing buttons). Most Time Lord pilots are also much more strict than the Doctor at controlling their TARDIS. The Doctor is more like the sort of dog owner who lets their dog lead the walk most of the way, which is why they often end up where they are needed rather than where they wanted to be.
So in the episode in question, what we had was a situation where someone had stolen the Doctor’s pet TARDIS and in order to catch them he had to cobble together a new collar and lead from bits of stuff lying around the park (left there from other Time Lords who had also had their TARDISs stolen). Then he had to persuade his TARDIS to get into it, which she does because she actually likes him (unlike the other Time Lords who are sometimes abusive to their pets). The collar and lead he cobbled together was not a long term solution, which was why it fell apart once they caught up with the thief.
So, way back in history, just like humans domesticating wolves, early Gallifreyans (and I think it is generally regarded as Rassilon who is the one who achieved this) somehow trapped and trained these energy beings and harnessed them to power TARDISs. By the time the Doctor stole his knackered old Type 40, they would have got to the point of being able to breed them and train them more effectively.
@@jeffpraterJSF All life is fueled, living beings being a combination of a mixture of chemicals that are being energized ~
An explanation of something like that?
( though a few years ago, 2017/18 I think. some organisms were collected from beneath the ocean floor, deep enough to not be effected by heat, nor light. And researchers have yet to find a way to make them react to energy. They’ve been unlike anything else so far. So it’ll be pretty wild to see what and if Dr. Who expands further, although when things aren’t stated it does make it a fun conversation, and gets more people to think & discuss)
Bringing up energy’s at that magnitude would make it pretty incomprehensible.
Our Sun that’s far from the biggest or most powerful has produced such insane & mind boggling results, from dinosaurs, plant, and humans, so the potential environment from basically a constant supernova ( now, it’s estimated that supernova’s explosions last 100 seconds. If it was permanent or a simple billion years, I’d have to imagine that it’d tear this dimension into something else)
Apparently, there’s a pretty solid theory for a
Perpetual motion device, using a singular black hole’s gravitational pull.
TLDR: Just talking out of my ass, aside from the under the ocean organisms & supernova’s durations.
To clarify it’s only theorized that supernova’s explosions last for an estimated few minutes, but it’s on such a massive scale that after it’s peak brightness it will take a month or so for it to dim. ( There are (mathematical) proofs to back up this theory, but as there are so so many variables it’s not precise, as it’s the mean for common sized stars going supernova) just pointing out, if something so powerful can be around long enough to fuel an environment where a form of life can develop it’d be absolute utter madness.
Life as we currently know it, mimics galaxies and stars shockingly well. So the phone booth being a live would probably not be viewed as we view life but more akin to “constants”. Just thought it’d be fun to throw some of this out there in case it sparks another’s thoughts ~
@@jeffpraterJSF if my other reply was too long, my guess is that having a perpetual supernova to have some constants long enough for a sort of environment to develop, or that it would tear the fabric of our reality/dimension which may be an environment in and of itself, it already hops through time like someone learning to walk for the first time, or it may be in a position similar to when life on earth still lacked vision, overtime many pathways developed vision due to it being exceptionally useful in this environment.
( Still is mind blowing some birds actually see magnetic fields, or how midnight zone fish who couldn’t survive in the twilight zone, developed little lightbulbs to help with their vision ( super crazy they even have eyes in the first place)
Or possibly something akin to how some view the potential for AI to achieve a the title of “living”. Where it is interactive, makes decisions, develops. But it’s still so much different than what we currently classify as life. ( Some say reproduction is a requirement for life, but then dismiss cloning or how some frogs, lizards, fish and even mice can reproduce a-sexually under certain conditions) if the phone booth is the only one of its kind, it may clear that condition by doing something similar.
But then again, that whole thing gets squashed since time isn’t a factor with it.
Still ended up being a lot of random ass information. But the main point being about it’s environment where it developed allowed it to happen. A lot of aspects would be the opposite of space. Where instead of a bunch of freezing nothing with energy balls scattered, it’d be an insane amount of heat & “brightness” so much so things would probably have to develop in such a way to cool itself/control the speed of molecules.,
But I’m just an idiot. So I just can’t imagine that amount of energy being able to produce something that could exist in the universe, but more so would come from a completely different environment to be able to interact in this one, and it being intelligent life it’d have to constantly adjust in every single aspect of physics to be able to even exist with that much firepower running through it.
Time travel opens up so many paradoxes. I can't wrap my mind around how it could even work.
When I was 12, vidoes on you tube related to time travel & the supernatural popped up despite not searching up for anything related.
Bert's hammered lmao 🤣 🍻
The fact that Rogan is explaining all this like it’s a fact is hilarious
he does it often. he has a little information on a topic and then speaks as if its absolute truth, often times its not even proven science but just theory's, but he doesn't seem to understand the difference between provable science and speculative theory's.
"If time travel is created in June, we can't go back to April." Got it.
He's just explaining someones (Terrence McKenna's) theory...
@@rhumandlove393 and he’s acting like it’s 100% fact…it wasn’t hard to understand my point lol…
@@diddy2612 your criticism is a giant. Nothing burger. It's very easy to understand. Which is why it's easy to understand it's just a nothing burger.
I can see Bert enjoying traveling through time, getting drunk in the future, in his structurally reinforced time machine.
“Structurally reinforced” lmfao 🤣
LOL
Rick Sanchez? Lol
Bert's time machine will be an alcoholic beverage.
Sounds like a movie
Depends on how the time machine works... does it go with you through time or does it just send you to your destination with no way back?
I think most literary methods for time travel are based on the wormhole theory: you create a tunnel between the destination and the origin. By that theory, you can traverse back and forth via the tunnel provided the tunnel is sustained. However, the initial activation of the time machine is important since, based on what I have read, the origin can only be after when the machine is activated as a way to counter paradoxes from travelling in the past. The concept of a "fixed point" that cannot be changed is necessary as in all types of travel for navigation after all.
Joe I could blow your mind with some time travel theories of my own
Feel free to share them here man.
Well all I will say on here is that first we need to understand what time really is in order to manipulate it to travel through it.. and we just don't know what "time" really actually is yet.. and second there's a lot more to it than just back and forth through time.. you have to look at it on different axis.. and what I mean by that is where was the Earth at in the solar system at that time you want to go back to.. because if you try to travel through time you might get to that time, but the Earth wont be there, you understand what I'm saying? So it's not just moving through time from one moment to another, but moving from your zero location point to your destination location point as well.. Youre not just moving through time so you need to move your location in space as well see what im saying.. we're flying through the solar system at thousands of miles an hour.. or so they say.. So you would also have to put into account the position of the Earth in the solar system in order to be in that spot in that time.. Otherwise youd be floating in space when you got there.. Like for example, this might blow your mind.. Say 10yrs from now in dec 2032 you decide to travel back to today.. If you dont move your location in space you will be transported to 10yrs into the past to today but remain floating in the same location in space as you were when you left in 2032, which is where the earth will be 10yrs from today.. Because the only thing that changed was time.. So you would travel 10yrs to the past to be where the earth will be 10yrs in the future, so thats why you also need to move your position in 3 dimensional space.. Unless youre fast forwarding time or rewinding time (which could be entirely different) then its possible that youd be flowing with the movement of space as time was changing forward or backward.. it gets tricky.. Space and time should kind of go together because of how everything is constantly moving through space.. the earth spins as it rotates around the sun, as our solar system is rotating and flying through the milky way, as the milky way is flying through the universe.. So nothing is ever really in a fixed position in space.. But i don't want to give out all my theories on here..
Everything Everywhere all at once had me CRYING, LAUGHING, and everything else. Perfect film absolutely! ❤️
Bruv, I just watched that film yesterday and it's one of the best sci-fi movies I've ever watched. The scene where the guy slowly unzips his pants to jump on the butt plug had me spitting out my coffee.
The thing about time travel is that you have to account for space as well. You have to account for the expansion of space, the relative drift in locations over time, etc. The power to travel back would be massive, but you would also need a linear travel element that would put you in the right place. If you went back, let's say, a few years - but in a static location, you're in the vacuum of space and Earth hasn't gotten here yet.
You’re just applying the big bang theory which isn’t true. The past present and future are all happening at once. So space in theory would have no effect on time travel. One thing You said though is yes i would assume you could go so far back the earth isn’t even there yet but again everything is happening all at once.
Yeah in reality the delorean tracks would have led directly into space a million miles from Earth. Everything is moving at a ridiculous pace. The galaxy, the solar system, Earth etc.
Even more is that other civilizations would have invented time travel already therefore we can see whatever we want the pyramids and more. That theory he proposed was crap and totally not possible for reasons of aliens already invented it millions of years before we did.
@@korn-tv2032 I think your half way right but the thing is in a time travel you have to stop traveling and at that point you would have to find your way back to earth
@@korn-tv2032 big bang and expansion are two separate theories fueled by different events and properties. He's talking about the latter.
In a time machine rn going back in time to watch this before it was made in 1979
The carlos mencia line 😊
2:45 Joe falls down the rabbit hole of timetravel. I love it!
Saw Rogan drop in on Tony’s Phoenix shows. Went to both shows and Rogan did 2 almost completely different 45min sets. Tony crushed. William Montgomery murdered super hard too. EPIC night of comedy!
Sorry I miss it 😢
Joe time traveled
how were joe's sets?
Roads? Where we’re going we don’t need roads.
Time travel would be the nail in our Coffin
Take a moment to appreciate the fact that Rogan is a brilliant modern day renaissance man, intellectual warrior philosopher
Very impressive human but also a agent of the machine, if you know anything about the information war you would know you don't get to rise in this system without someone having you in check
...For idiots
@@user-ik5ze1sh7i adjust your tin foil hat sir
Lets relax.. lol
@@user-ik5ze1sh7i very true there’s things that are not worth reporting on
There's probably not two lesser-qualified people to discuss the potential intricacies of time travel with than this 21st century, real-life version of Beavis and Butthead
This is where you have it wrong James, two cartoon wetalds are EXACTLY the people who should be discussing time travel. Because it's fictional nonsense that only a pair of complete cognitive degenerates should be discussing. Entropy can be slowed not completely stopped, and never reversed. So time travel is not possible.
Well unless you are a scientist, psychologist or theoretical physicist then wouldn't you in turn be too unqualified to claim whether these two people are qualified to discuss theoretical time travel? You don't have to have a PhD to discuss a subject. Like you for instance, I think that your response is infantile with no actual counter points, just a broad comment escribing them as unintelligent teenagers. That to me would signify a level of envy because it isnt like you can claim to know them personally. Now I'm no psychologist myself, it's just how I interpret the information I've been given. Just like Rogan having a conversation about time travel.
@@mitchellpierce6233 No, beavis and butthead is an apt description. Instead of yes anding Joe Rogan, they’re just like “woah my mind is blown, dude.” They’re great on other topics, just not this one.
@@BartvG88 well that would be a subjective argument of personal preferences of topic, not comparing them to the literal biggest morons from the 90s.
@@BartvG88 It's fking time travel bud. You act like it's projectile motion. It's way more in the realm of science fiction than actual science. To think he needs a "degree" in order to comment on something you'd find in the realm of a star trek episode, is dumb.
Hi Joe, I did some time travel while I was dead and it is a matter of thought and sight. The further you go or concrete on the more you see. I can't do it now cause I am alive again lol But Ya! It's possible without the body and it is instant, but that is not possible to explain unless you can come back and even then it's very hard to explain instant movent without living it.
It's really really hard to imagine what kind of universe that would like that with the way Joe is describing it. I'm not sure it would be as positive as it sounds coming from Joe with that kind of chaos. Obviously what he's describing is not possible though, but it's interesting to think about.
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He said "that's not what it works like"
If you saw Died suddenly, OR The Dimming, you can only imagine what they'll use to kill us next. If you haven't please do.
@@4Everlast Ive watched died suddenly. Where can I find the dimming?
@@bobjrfdny7360 I'm pretty sure it's still on you tube somehow. Tremendous stuff, affecting us all, especially when we're all blamed and blackmailed by with the CO2 BS, and it's NOT the cause of the temperature change, chem trails are, proven 50 times over by now.
Once again I'll say Joe is one of my favorite people, and an important voice in free thinking. The book he refers to "Kurt Godel meets Einstein" is an exercise in pure mathematics & philosophy. Not a practical theory. Kurt Godel was a mathematician not a physicist.
" No one would invent anything because they could just go to a time when someone had already invented it."
Well Joe.. That's what we call a paradox buddy.
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Bert completely not understanding Joe the entire time was the highlight for me
Show Called "The Orville" can somewhat relate to this
The problem I've always had with time travel is that if you are on Earth (or any stellar object) and travel back in time, Earth won't be in the same place. This means you will be floating in space at the point where Earth will be in your 'present'. That is, unless your time machine suddenly exists at all points between your present and your destined time, which means you could kill a lot of people as you 'drive' backwards through time.
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Exactly. Because just as the Earth moves around the sun, our sun (and in fact out entire solar system that is tethered to it) moves around the Galaxy across the galactic plane. Any time machine worth it's salt must account for this stellar drift otherwise if you jumped back to when the pyramids were built you'd end up in the right time but the wrong place. Somewhere in empty space trillions of miles or perhaps even light years from Earth. A lot of people don't realize our star isn't stationary and it's actually hurtling through the Galaxy at insane speeds.
That's because it's impossible
In between the panic attack, it's honesly a beautiful feeling to know there's so much more than this
Technically, we could travel back to the day of the Philadelphia experiment took place. It was purported that the ship traveled in space/time in which case that is the earliest known date of time travel.
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That's been debunked to hell, I'm sure the WhyFiles have done a pretty good episode on it, you should check it out.
Don’t forget about the freeze hypothesis. Where everything will be frozen in time if one jumps forward or back in time, until they return.
The simple proof that time travel is impossible and will always be is that if it was invented in the future the future people would have come to us to tell us about it.
Unless we're too stupid or don't have the capacity for it
@@4HiSeth dude
@@4HiSeth and according to quantum physics any area outside of the known universe, like past the horizon where it’s ever expanding, is just another unique universe with its own variation. So in theory there truly is an infinite number of universes, and there are an infinite number of yous.
A time machine also has to move through space in an instant too. The machine pops out of time and back into time at the same place in space but the Earth itself has moved on from that point in space. It would be like jumping off a moving train and the train keeps on going without you.
Idk why the newest narrative on theoretical time travel is that you can't go back, but you can go forward... that is literally all anyone keeps saying when commenting on it. Man, we don't know anything about anything... least of all time travel, so why the fuck anyone would comment about the specificity on the direction that time flows and how you can travel through it like they actually know blows my fucking mind lol.
Most scientific explanations are theory. Theory... as in a guess based off of other theory usually. I mean good guesses. But... still guessing. ALL OF THE TIME we are updating shit we thought was one way but turns out wasn't even close. Tbh the new thing that replaces the old theory is probably wrong too usually >_>
This is the Joe Rogan content we love.
Joe: Spends 5 minutes explaining why you can’t travel back only forward
Random guy: So how far bACk would you go.
Watched 3:30 to 4 :00 for 20 times in slow motion. Understood perfectly
Some “systems” teach that past and future have very real, tangible existence. The past does not “disappear”, but in fact it still exists beyond what we are able to perceive with our normal senses.
According to this line of thought the problem with time travel is we are looking for a machine which exists in our normal three-dimensional space and can be used by normal three-dimensional senses. Instead, it says, we should be looking inward-that the only possible method of time travel is through higher states of consciousness.
Nah there is only present so time travel is impossible. Time is human invention it doesn't even exist.
One hypothesis that is nearly never talked about regarding time travel is this: going back in time would deconstruct the would-be time machine itself, and would regress the person inside the machine in age as well.
So the main point is that with a potential time "machine" of some sort (one where you'd have at least one occupant inside, a 'pilot') would go back in time let's say 10 years.
The hypothesis in question posits this:
1) It takes, for example, 7 years to build the time machine.
2) The pilot is 30 years-old when the machine is built.
3) The pilot goes in the machine, and inputs a date back in time to 10 years exactly, and starts the time travel process.
4) Immediately, the machine itself, its own assemblage of components, etc, is being deconstructed in the exact mirror / opposite order in which it was assembled during its construction. At a speed that corresponds to the one in which the time travelling is occurring.
5) The painting (outside, if any) would have probably been the last thing done on the machine. So it's the first thing from outside that starts to 'undo' itself (in the opposite order to which it was done).
6) Every bolts, circuits, etc, everything inside the machine is "de-made".
7) As this 'un-do' process is happening, the pilot already started to de-age as well.
8) Inside the body, all the processes related to aging, cellular degradation, etc, is all being reversed in the opposite direction.
9) Now, danger zone: the machine was built in 7 years, it didn't "exist" even on a blueprint by the 8th year back in time; yet the machine is going to 10 years back. It won't.
10) By the 7th year of backwards time travel is done, the machine is essentially in pieces, in all of its own parts, disassembled. The time travel itself can no longer happen and the process is over.
11) Whether this implies that the pilot would somehow die is up to debate, but in a scenario of pilot survival, he or she would have only travelled 7 years instead of 10, and would have de-aged for 7 years inside the machine (or however long it would have taken until the actual time travel process itself could no longer be in effect by a functioning machine).
In essence, the hypothesis proposes that going back in time reverses all Motion in the opposite direction. Anything, and everything that moves in the universe also follows suit. It's not just a 'localized' effect. It's the actual "Arrow of Time"'s own timeline across the universe that would be reserved. A bit like... rewinding a movie back to 'x' amount of time and watching everything that unfolded happening in reverse. The motion is inevitable either in one or the other direction (forward, or backward in time, the arrow of time will move), but there's no possibility to separate one self from that backwards, reserve motion effect that going back in time would cause.
And that's the hypothesis.
That's why there's the rule you aren't allowed to go back to before time machine was invented. The rest is a-OK, once the time machine is invented it basically operates within the new space-time reality where such a vehicle exists.
@@M419.99 Well yes. But the general idea behind the hypothesis in question is that even in the event that an actual time machine wouldn't be necessary to travel back in time ("circumventing" the original problem of not being able to travel in time further back than from the moment the machine was invented), that it would still be impossible for the person who travels back in time to travel further back than the person's own age would allow it.
In the scenario that the Arrow of Time follows suit with the backwards motion of - essentially - everything, it would mean that the very person going back in time (even without a "machine" to do so) wouldn't be able to go further back than say... 10 years, if you're 30 years of age. Because if you DO get to point B and travelled back successfully, you'll be 20 years-old.
If you wanted to go back in time during the time of the dinosaurs to watch them, you wouldn't be able to. In fact (within the scenario that the hypothesis suggests) you could potentially kill yourself by effectively turning you into an embryo, or worse, you would simply cease to exist during the time travel attempt.
Now, let's say you forget people, and try to send things back in time. This hypothesis applies to everything (organic or not, doesn't matter). You could try to send a modern car back in time by 100 years (again, let's forget the "machine" to do this with for now); it wouldn't be possible simply because the car would deconstruct itself anyway during the process of backwards time traversal. If the car took 3 weeks to make, then it can only travel back in time by 3 weeks until it becomes irrelevant entirely. Beyond that point you only send back in time raw materials that were used to create the components to build the car.
Now let's say we find a giant rock, we carbon date it to be 700,000 years, at least. We could send that rock back in time 699,999 years and it would be just fine (or course assuming some leeway in number of precise years that were needed for the rock itself to form in the first place).
All of this applies to everything. The very time "machine" itself, the pilot(s) inside the machine, or people or things even without a machine.
Essentially, we, the universe, is 'bound' to the Arrow of Time, not just the time travel machine itself. But, of course, for now, because we wouldn't know how to travel back in time without a machine to do this with, so we conclude (for the moment) that we wouldn't be able to travel back in time further than when the machine itself was made and finished. But the hypothesis goes way beyond that.
@@lyrand6408 That's one way to look at it. Another is that the atoms you're made up of and the time machine are made up of have existed probably since the Big Bang happened, and they can travel backwards in time to that point no problem. The only 2 true functions of the time machine then is 1) to keep the atom's current configuration stable (ie you do not deconstruct), and 2) get the atoms moving the in the correct direction (ie backwards through time). The atoms will do the rest. You will still exist because what you are made of has existed for eons.
That doesn't make any sense. Why would the machine deconstruct itself? If your time traveling your essentially creating a pocket of space around yourself and the outside would have no effect on you.
You're not traveling through time per say, but to another point in space that has already occurred.
Since time is linear you cannot return to the point before you time travelled, only by not affecting anything whatsoever, could you return to a point identical to the one you left. Any alterations would rewrite the future.
The only argument to be made is whether the 'time' you left behind ceases to exist, or a parallel universe is created and both exist simultaneously.
What if we could travel without a machine or pod or capsule?
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Could we have like time police, like the TVA. That’s could potentially help that
😂 This is one of the funniest conversation I’ve ever heard
Joe talking about time travel where everyone can time travel, time stops being linear to people and even become immortal!
Bert: We’re would you like to go to in the past
Joe: You can’t, that’s just unrealistic version of time travel
Bwahahahaha 😂 ☠️
I'll try to explain the logic that joe is using:
You can't travel to before time travel was invented because they don't have time machines in, say, ancient Egypt. "No road has been built", once a place has time machines, you can travel there.
I think this is just as spatially important as it is temporally, ie you can only travel to a time AND place where a time machine exists. Ie, time machines are gateways to other time machines.
Not saying it's true, just that it isn't as logically inconsistent as you are implying.
@@BlastinRope 😂 dude it was not difficult to understand what Joe was saying.
What’s funny is that he has a theory about time travel that’s as fantastical as any other theory. But he says Bert going back in time is unrealistic……..in a time travel hypothetical discussion! 😂
Like trying to explain how gravity works. Joe says it’s giants worms underground, sucking you down to earth, Bert says he thinks he thinks it’s giants magnets underground pulling you down, then Joe says “well that’s just unrealistic” it’s freakin hilarious!!!!
BTW: The whole no roads there so you cant go back beyond that point is pretty weak. The whole point of a “time travel machine” is that you can go back and forth through time. The machine itself is design to move through time. As far as people know what is required is some kind of energy so powerful, that it can go past the speed of light, which presently relatively says it’s not possible.
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In their theory they think that time points that can be visited cannot precede the first established checkpoint IE: The first point in time that the mechanism was developed that could be used to traverse time itself.
Like a checkpoint in a video game that saves your history so that you can revert to a previous marked coordinate should you perish unexpectedly.
Perhaps either theory is possible and the first generation will have bounds and limitations in their time travel until the science and tech evolve with the second generation and we can breach those thresholds.
@@radfoo72 but once there is a First generation of a time travel machine you can go to the future and hop into a generation 5000 time machine that can go back before the first checkpoint
@@radfoo72 once again, it’s pretty clear what he said, the funny part is that he called 1 theory unrealistic….when BOTH theories are equally as unrealistic. Like a Catholic saying Scientologist have pretty cooky idea of how the world came to be.
If you want to be technical, it would be more realistic to think you can go back in time, then forward.
But the point is that it was funny when Joe told Bert that’s unrealistic, when he then talks about distorting timelines and even being immortal.