The artwork on the cards is amazing. I had no idea that this game existed. I'm glad you got you to share this game. I might pick up a copy for myself and give the game a go. But the rules porsion of the video did put me off a little about getting the game. But all in all the game looks really interesting and I still might give it ago. Thanks for sharing!! looking forward to your next video :)
The rules sound quite daunting when you lay them out, but it really is very simple. You just reveal a card, pass a card, or draw and discard a card, then you reveal an omen, and then reveal cards to defeat the omen. Obviously the presence of the traitor adds layers of complication, but overall once you have played once or twice, it becomes very fast and intuitive and you can focus more on trying to smoke out the traitor.
I played this last night at my local game store. Never even heard of Betrayal before and I had a lot of fun with this game despite the initial confusion. I would definitely buy this if I had the money.
Question, does the traitor win if someone doesn't have item cards in their hand, but do have item cards on the field of play and a major omen is played?
On page 12 of the rules it stats the the explorers immediately lose if "an explorer has no item cards in their hand OR revealed in front of them at the end of a turn when a Major Omen is played." So, as long as you have at least one card face up in front of you, you are still in play.
The OR gets me. Isn't it one or the other? So if the explorer didn't have cards in their hand, they lose, or if they didn't have any face up, they lose?
I honestly don't feel like the font is hard to read. It is close to how I write in regards to cursive, so I actually found it really easy. Just picked up this game myself and don't know how to play it.
If you compare the font, iconography, and colour choices to cards from other board games, I think these will come out as harder to read than most. It does work for the theme here, and seems to be a purposeful, stylistic choice.
Did you get any answers about how some of the special items work? The Lost Prophet's Coffer is becoming the source of many a headache every time I play this game 😅
This game is certainly a struggle to learn. The rules need a good edit for clarity. It's a fun game once you get to grips with it, but they definitely didn't make it easy!
hey hi sorry to bother you, I found more questions for the game: 1) if I run out of cards in my hand but I have active cards in front of me, do I automatically lose or do I continue playing? 2) in the omens game phase when a player names what is needed to defeat one, can I also reveal more than one card?
@@alex-okami4150 1. You don't lose just by running out of cards in your hand - you lose only if you have no items left in your hand or revealed in front of you at the end of a turn when a Major Omen was played. You can choose to draw an item card in the co-operation phase if you don't have one. 2. Each player has the chance to play as many cards as they are able to when resolving an omen.
Does the traitor play a major omen every turn after discovered? Or is it every other turn? We played this and the traitor played a major omen every other turn and thought it was weird so just wondering your thoughts! Thanks!
I see where the confusion is here. In the rules it says "The traitor will no longer take a regular turn but will play an Omen card during every other player's Omen phase." In this sentence "every other" doesn't mean alternating, it means "all other" Because the traitor holds all the Omen cards, the loyalists no longer play an Omen card in their Omen phase - the traitor picks and plays all the Omen cards from now on. Hope that makes sense.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring but as I understand you do not discard minor omens if they are a hint. And as far as I understand if I fail the minor omen, it stays with me until I complete it. So one player can still have a minor omen when the first major is played
@@matevzroskaric7694 Hints are placed next to curses if you complete the omen, or are discarded if you didn't. You don't ever keep an omen card you play. It's either discarded or placed as a hint.
Can you add information on how to play the inquisitor? It doesn't have markings and I can't figure out if the inquisitor can't play marked cards or can play all things. Also does only the inquisitor get an extra card or does everyone? Also after you get past the green item cards do you shuffle and reset the used/discarded items, or are you just out of new items for the rest of the game? You seem to answer people so I'm hopeful you can answer even some of these! Thank you!
Rules page 13 describes how to set up the game for five players with the Inquisitor. The inquisitor does not have an affinity for any particular items but starts the game with one extra item. Rules page 9 has a box out that tells you what to do when the item deck runs out. You can start pulling any card you want from the discards at that point.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoringso if the inquisitor doesn't have an affinity can they play all the cards or none of the cards? I'll go check the rulebook again for the others, thanks! 😁
Hmm... Whole lotta Cursing going on in this video! 😂 Looks interesting. One of my friends loves playing the traitor scenarios. He would have a ball being enigmatic!
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring oh! Random question; do you ever look through some of the Hquest Builder community Quests? I put up a DarkWorld conversion on there
Both you and the rule book do not say if you do not defeat a minor omen is it discarded, or do you have to keep it out until defeated? Do you suffer the penalty every time you cannot defeat it?
That Card Games logo on the front of the box looks so weird and out of place. You could use some lighter fluid to easily remove that sticker on the back. Just have to curb your impulse to have a cigar at the same time.
Next time maybe split the how to play and the review review into two completely separate parts. This wasn't exactly an encouraging video. Really frustrating for someone that wanted to play it for the first time.
Appreciate the feedback but I don’t plan on changing the way I do my videos. There are time stamps in the video description if you need to jump to a specific section of the game.
I like it quite a bit. I think a good traitor player can lead to some really fun sessions. I'm glad the video helped you to decide it doesn't sound like something you would like.
Thanks for this! I just bought this and had a loooot of questions
The rules really aren't as clear as they should be. I hope the video has cleared everything up for you. It is a fun game, so I hope you enjoy it.
Thanks for making this video. I got this game the other day and found it complex.
It's a good game, but the rules aren't well written. I hope the video answered all your questions.
The artwork on the cards is amazing. I had no idea that this game existed. I'm glad you got you to share this game. I might pick up a copy for myself and give the game a go. But the rules porsion of the video did put me off a little about getting the game. But all in all the game looks really interesting and I still might give it ago. Thanks for sharing!! looking forward to your next video :)
The rules sound quite daunting when you lay them out, but it really is very simple. You just reveal a card, pass a card, or draw and discard a card, then you reveal an omen, and then reveal cards to defeat the omen. Obviously the presence of the traitor adds layers of complication, but overall once you have played once or twice, it becomes very fast and intuitive and you can focus more on trying to smoke out the traitor.
I played this last night at my local game store. Never even heard of Betrayal before and I had a lot of fun with this game despite the initial confusion. I would definitely buy this if I had the money.
Glad to hear you had fun with it. It's a good little game.
I'm excited to play. Hope it goes well with my group. Just picked it up today. Great review!
Apart from the speed bump with the rules at first, we've had a lot of fun with this one. I hope you enjoy it too.
Thank god you made this video- I just got the game for Christmas, and the instructions were missing entirely from my box.
Oh no. That's a pain. Let me know if you have any questions and I can try to help. You can also download the rules from the Hasbro website.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Thank you- ill do that, thank you so much
Thank you so much! That was so helpful
I’m glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching.
Question, does the traitor win if someone doesn't have item cards in their hand, but do have item cards on the field of play and a major omen is played?
On page 12 of the rules it stats the the explorers immediately lose if "an explorer has no item cards in their hand OR revealed in front of them at the end of a turn when a Major Omen is played." So, as long as you have at least one card face up in front of you, you are still in play.
The OR gets me. Isn't it one or the other? So if the explorer didn't have cards in their hand, they lose, or if they didn't have any face up, they lose?
@ As long as you have a card in play you aren’t out.
Okay. Thanks for the quick reply.
I honestly don't feel like the font is hard to read. It is close to how I write in regards to cursive, so I actually found it really easy. Just picked up this game myself and don't know how to play it.
If you compare the font, iconography, and colour choices to cards from other board games, I think these will come out as harder to read than most. It does work for the theme here, and seems to be a purposeful, stylistic choice.
Did you get any answers about how some of the special items work? The Lost Prophet's Coffer is becoming the source of many a headache every time I play this game 😅
I didn't ask about the special items because I didn't have any issues with them. What is your question about the coffer?
Even a professional had a hard time with the rules of this game. That makes me feel a lot better lol
This game is certainly a struggle to learn. The rules need a good edit for clarity. It's a fun game once you get to grips with it, but they definitely didn't make it easy!
Can i ask if at the final stage, before beating the curses if we had object card in the hand we have to reveal all of them if we can?
Do you mean when you face the final curse? You can use any cards that are still in your hand (as long as they are cards you can legally play).
@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring yes, thanks so much
hey hi sorry to bother you, I found more questions for the game: 1) if I run out of cards in my hand but I have active cards in front of me, do I automatically lose or do I continue playing? 2) in the omens game phase when a player names what is needed to defeat one, can I also reveal more than one card?
@@alex-okami4150 1. You don't lose just by running out of cards in your hand - you lose only if you have no items left in your hand or revealed in front of you at the end of a turn when a Major Omen was played. You can choose to draw an item card in the co-operation phase if you don't have one.
2. Each player has the chance to play as many cards as they are able to when resolving an omen.
Does the traitor play a major omen every turn after discovered? Or is it every other turn?
We played this and the traitor played a major omen every other turn and thought it was weird so just wondering your thoughts! Thanks!
I see where the confusion is here. In the rules it says "The traitor will no longer take a regular turn but will play an Omen card during every other player's Omen phase."
In this sentence "every other" doesn't mean alternating, it means "all other"
Because the traitor holds all the Omen cards, the loyalists no longer play an Omen card in their Omen phase - the traitor picks and plays all the Omen cards from now on.
Hope that makes sense.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring And does it mean that the traitor can play major omens even if he still has minor omens in the hand?
@@matevzroskaric7694 The traitor won't have any minor omens by the time they are revealed.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring but as I understand you do not discard minor omens if they are a hint. And as far as I understand if I fail the minor omen, it stays with me until I complete it. So one player can still have a minor omen when the first major is played
@@matevzroskaric7694 Hints are placed next to curses if you complete the omen, or are discarded if you didn't. You don't ever keep an omen card you play. It's either discarded or placed as a hint.
Can you add information on how to play the inquisitor? It doesn't have markings and I can't figure out if the inquisitor can't play marked cards or can play all things. Also does only the inquisitor get an extra card or does everyone?
Also after you get past the green item cards do you shuffle and reset the used/discarded items, or are you just out of new items for the rest of the game? You seem to answer people so I'm hopeful you can answer even some of these! Thank you!
Rules page 13 describes how to set up the game for five players with the Inquisitor. The inquisitor does not have an affinity for any particular items but starts the game with one extra item.
Rules page 9 has a box out that tells you what to do when the item deck runs out. You can start pulling any card you want from the discards at that point.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoringso if the inquisitor doesn't have an affinity can they play all the cards or none of the cards? I'll go check the rulebook again for the others, thanks! 😁
@@angelamarie6078 A character has to have affinity to play cards with character symbols. Each affinity item has only two character who can use it.
The terrible rule book for betrayal at house on the hill (ver 1 at least) made the game unplayable for me and friends.
I have the 3rd edition of Betrayal, and the rules are pretty tight now. At least, I haven't had any issues with it so far.
Hmm... Whole lotta Cursing going on in this video! 😂
Looks interesting. One of my friends loves playing the traitor scenarios. He would have a ball being enigmatic!
It always adds to a traitor game when people ham it up a bit.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring oh! Random question; do you ever look through some of the Hquest Builder community Quests? I put up a DarkWorld conversion on there
I haven't had a chance to look on there for ages. What is your quest called?
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring DarkWorld HeroQuest conversion. I'm pretty sure
I'll try to take a look at it when I get a minute.
Both you and the rule book do not say if you do not defeat a minor omen is it discarded, or do you have to keep it out until defeated? Do you suffer the penalty every time you cannot defeat it?
As per step 6 of The Omen Phase in the rules, you discard the omen card at the end of the Omen Phase unless you defeated it and it was a hint.
That Card Games logo on the front of the box looks so weird and out of place. You could use some lighter fluid to easily remove that sticker on the back. Just have to curb your impulse to have a cigar at the same time.
That's the crazy thing... there is no sticker on the back! That's printed on design.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I mean the bar code thingy.
I repeat. There is no sticker on the back!
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring What the hell. That's barcode that is is crooked and have a bulge in it is printed?
Yeah. That's printed on like that. It's bonkers.
Next time maybe split the how to play and the review review into two completely separate parts. This wasn't exactly an encouraging video. Really frustrating for someone that wanted to play it for the first time.
Appreciate the feedback but I don’t plan on changing the way I do my videos. There are time stamps in the video description if you need to jump to a specific section of the game.
Just skip ahead and quit being lazy.
@@Gameboy-64 there's no skipping ahead numb nuts. The critiques are mixed in with the instructions
There just Tarot Cards
They are tarot sized, but they certainly aren’t tarot cards.
This sounds like a very badly and sloppily designed game wannabee.
I like it quite a bit. I think a good traitor player can lead to some really fun sessions. I'm glad the video helped you to decide it doesn't sound like something you would like.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring I am not sure, really. I have not made a final decision.