How to Make a Shower Pan
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2017
- DIY step by step instructions on how to build a mortar shower pan.
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Man thanks to this video specifically my pan came out way nicer than expected. Thank you so much for the thourough and entertaining video.
I have an
Your a former devil dog? Semper Fi tufelhunden
Best common sense pan video I've seen yet
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I see you Lil cuz
I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time to record this video and share your skills n tricks. The finished product looks perfect :)
Probably your best video yet. Showing each step was great stuff. Never enough of this information available. Looks good.
Great video. Proper installation video on shower pans is rare. So few installers do the initial mud job. It is critical to pitch the pan. So many failures are due to water sitting in the pan causing mold/mildew growth in grout joints. A thumbs up to you.
Why you did not use chicken wire?
Beautifully done!!! Great process and best way to tackle a shower floor and protect the subfloor! 🙏
Finally a video of the correct way to install the shower pan! And thanks for not forgetting the gravel for the drain weep holes!
Pro-tip: Keep back a gallon or so of the dry mix so that if you do accidentally over-water it, then you've got a bit of extra dry to work with.
I used this pro-tip last night and can confirm it saved my butt! Thanks!
Good one. Also read the bag. It will.tell you how much water. Pour 3/4 of.that right away(makes mixing easier)
Exactly
Question from a newbie, why do you need the mix to be so dry?
@@MrDusty66 The strength of the concrete varies with the amount of water in the mix. You need some water to get the concrete to an activated form so that all of it has some water to achieve close to maximum strength. As you add more water so that the concrete becomes sloppy or soupy, the finished strength drops off significantly.
Thank you, SgtDonovan - Your video was the one I kept coming back to, to build my first shower. I just finished grouting the whole thing yesterday. Really appreciate your help. :)
Wow. What an excellent, informative, straightforward, video. No wasting time, great explanations, answered questions, explained exactly what was going on, including any "tips, tricks, or shortcuts"
I've watched a lot of remodel videos during the two years I've owned a fixer-upper. And this. This is the kind of content I really want to see.
He's military. I would expect no less. Don't dawdle... I hate that. Just cut to it. This is an A+ video.
Best/easiest to follow shower pan video on UA-cam by far!! Thank you!!
Ive been building pans,for yrs. I learned a few more tricks from you. You really made an exceptional how-too. Thank you.
Great video, thanks! I love the simple, "to the point" presentation without unnecessary talking.
Great Video, Semper Fi, plan on watching it till I memorize!
Hey thank you for an awesome video. I've watched hundreds literally and this is one of the best demo with details that I've seen. I'm a 20 year home remodeling guy so I've seen lots and done lots of projects. You are the man!!!
Thanks, Sarge! I've got to say I struggled to get my mortar consistency anywhere near yours. Always thought it was dry in the hopper and started smoothing it into soup. D'oh! I got it nailed down though after a little time to dry and will be tiling soon I hope. I sure appreciate your insight and happy belated Veterans Day!
Best video out there on this topic. I’ve watched a ton and most want you to watch individual videos on every little part of the job where the guy spends 45 minutes explaining the specific job he is on which means nothing to us. Great job! Keep it up!
Alex Sutherland I appreciate the kind words.
Finally. An instructional video that won't cause you to replace your shower a year later. That's the way a shower pan should be done! One installer to another, I tip my hat to you. I like to do do these same simple tricks...they make life easier.
Andrey Sheyfer j)
As a handyman I like to polish up the skill sets I already have. I love how simple this was and I know I can definitely achieve this now. Thanks for keeping it simple.
I appreciate it!
By far the best video I've found on this subject! Thanks for the step by step and narration. After watching this I have much more confidence going into this!
Sir, thank you so much for sharing your talent and thoughts regarding the shower pan . I’m 70 , and all my life I’ve been a DIY . The past 10 years however have taken quite a bit away from me . Body breaking down and such.. Having watched your video several times and taking notes , I’m prepared to redo the shower in our home by removing the tub and just having the shower. You have helped us tremendously. Thank you , once it’s completed. , I’ll send you before and after photos . Thanks again , you have been more than helpful, you have been very inspiring . Bless you and have a great day.. George
Thank you so much for that. That made my day! Please keep me updated.. I look forward to seeing the results!
Me too
@@SgtDonovan did he ever send before and afters ?? This inspired me along with your video to build the shower I was contemplating on paying someone to build just because I was scared to mess it up but I guess I won’t learn if I never try
Thank you very much for sharing this video. I am currently renovating my bathroom and I am worried I won't waterproof it enough and turn my house into a mush. I watched the Kerdi system over and over, including so many fails that I thought there must be a better way.
Thanks for the great video! Would love to see how you would do this for a walk in shower floor!!! I have a 115 year old house and I’m making a huge bathroom with a walk-in. Terrible and few contractors in my area so decided to do it myself! 😁
Very good instructional tutorial 👌. We will be doing a custom shower in our shabin (shed to cabin) and this video got me over the "where to start" hump. Thank you.
Co-worker shared this link with me and so glad she did. Appreciate you time in putting this together.
Great instructional video. Well done. I've used this to put in 2 shower pans.
This is exactly what I needed. Best pan installation video I've seen so far and I have seen a lot. Now I feel confident to do my shower floor
I agree! Thanks SgtDonovan for this very helpful video!
How did it go? Were you successful?
Great video, quality and sound. Thanks for posting this! I use to do tile work through college, but its been a while and I'm going to re-do our master shower soon so I needed a re-fresher, this was perfect!
Excellent delivery. Calm and instructional. Building a shower pan I find very intimidating but this helps a lot. Thank you
Couldn’t agree more with this comment. Nicely done Sgt Donovan!
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You are a G. One of the best how tos I have seen! Love how consistent and thorough you are. Thank You!
YES. you are the man. all the other videos I watched assumed I knew a whole bunch of stuff that I certainly did not and left my head spinning. I am going to embark upon a shower building adventure very soon thanks to your video - you cleared up a lot of things for me - subscribed!
Thanks so much! Good luck on your project and don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any questions.
I really have to Sincerely Thank You for this excellent video. Being neither a plumber or mason, I learned a whole lot and now know how to approach a project I'm working on. Converting what was a storage space to a bathroom.
The narration was to the point and covered the critical steps without unnecessary commentary.
Really appreciate your great craftsmanship.
Continued success and Blessings!👍🏻
Great job! Excellent step by step very easy to follow! Thank you!
This is the best instructional video on how to install a mortar pan. Thank you
Best video ever on UA-cam. Didn’t missed a step.
None of the other videos shows installing tar paper on plywood.
The instructions on the mortar says not to place mortar directly on top of plywood . I’ve seen installers ignore this step.
Very thorough explanations, good pace for viewing and allowing time to understand the steps involved. Thanks.
By the far the most simple and concise video out there.
I second the previous comment. Notch all the corner 2x6 before their installed.
Hey Sarge, this is the first I've seen of your work and it is really well done. I hope there is more.
Great job.. glad I ran into your video...love the way you explain every move. And the kind of mortar used same to make a big difference in mine also
Thanks so much for taking the time to make this video.
I followed you instructions 2 years ago and the shower pan on a custom shower is still holding up! No callbacks or complaints from customer
This is gold. Thank you
Sgt Donovan, First off Thank You for your service! Secondly thank you for your video it was pretty much what I had in mind to do but it was very reaffirming! Best video I've watched on shower pans!SSgt Pennock
Thank you!
Best video I've seen. Here in South Africa we don't generally build this way, so finding this kind of information is so difficult. Thank you.
One trick I’ve learned when using a square drain....screw in an old round drain with the top of the drain being the top of the mortar bed. Pack tight flush with the top of the drain. Then take a piece of wood with two screws a couple inches apart or a pair of needle nose, etc, to help unscrew the drain about a 1/8 or 1/4” higher than pan, smooth around drain using the edge of the rim as a guide against trowel. Once smooth, continue to totally unscrew round drain and then install square drain down to accommodate tile thickness/mortar. This can always be adjusted up/down.
Wow your comment helped me out... I did it and it worked... Thanks you!!
Damn, wish I had seen that before I threw my old one away. Will a 2” pvc male adapter work? I could make a top.
thank you so much for this video! i’ve watched it about 100 times while building one! you’ve been a lifesaver.
Glad it helped!
I love the video too, it also helped me out thanks so much
One of the better videos I've seen, really good explanation
Solid work there bud. Keep it up!
Thank you a ton for taking the time to break this down and explain all the steps! Awesome video
I love just listening and watching you work. Very relaxing! Another video recommends placing the cement board up so it does not touch the final mortar bed, paint everything with waterproof membrane, then do the floor tile. This way the floor does not touch the cement board on the wall at all. I am redoing an old 1950's tile shower floor pan. I am trying to save all but the bottom 6 inches of the old tile.
I watched that same video yesterday and then used it as a reference while watching this one to compare the different methods. Was wondering if that guy was going to chime in the comment section with some critiques.
@@TheBvirgilio86 I don't see any disadvantage of raising the cement board an inch or so off the pan, and a lot of potential advantages. I think modern code does not require waterproofing of the shower walls if you use cement board, but many people seem to recommend it. Maybe it is to make up for poor tiling technique that leaves voids behind the tiles? Old school, it was just really thick mortar and lathe, double the thickness of modern cement board, it did not extend into the pan, and it lasted 65 years and counting. Nowadays, people tear out perfectly good showers because they look "dated" after 20 years. No need to make them last longer than necessary!
Solid work dude, thanks for the tutoring
Love your videos, really helpful!
I literally referred to this video like 10 times. Thank you. Best video on UA-cam for this
Thanks for the good detailed orderly explanation.
Installed many pans and I never used rocks for weep holes. That makes sense. Thanks, you made a good video.
The best explanation I have ever seen thank you man!
Great DIY instructions
Thank you
About to start this project myself - excellent video. Thanks for taking the time to make it. Very well done!
It’s been a year since you did your own shower. How is it working out? Have you found any leaking? I’m just curious. Thanks in advance for your feedback!
Semper Fi. This is exactly what I was looking for! I'm sure you made it look a lot easier than it really is. Thanks
fantastic video and descriptions of details. Thank you.
Best video I ever watched, complete tutorial, thank you, need to watch how you install tiles on
I went to like this video and saw it was already liked! Didn't realize I saw it before even after watching the whole video again. Thank you for what you shared.
Great instructional video! Best I've found on the shower pan process. Thanks!
that is lots of work. Great job man.
Best video I've seen. Great instruction. Thank you!
Nice video Sgt and thanks. I'm about 3/4 of the way through my custom pan build and I'm following you step by step. You did a great job of commenting of your recommendation for the material to use for the bed. Others had added their clarifications and so will I because I ran out of material on my first layer and had to run to the store and get more which isn't a real ideal scenario. My shower pan is 38'' by 72'' minus about a square foot for a side bench. I used 130lbs for my first pre slope and will probably use a little more material for my top coal so call it 140lbs. I made the mistake of sourcing and using the MAPI mud bed 55lb bags you got at $26 per bag. I also agree there is no benefit and if I did my whole project with that it would have been over $150. There are two better options. The yellow Quickrete Sand Topping mix is one. I ended up buying the T2 Quickrete Mortar Mix (GREEN BAGS) that comes in 80lb for $9 per bag. That will end up being $30 or $40 total in that material. Also, you will have a hard time and do not need to have your surface perfectly smooth and perfectly flat. Mine looks just like your finished layer but when you get right down at eye level its sand paper rough and thats okay because it'll be covered by the Oatey pan liner and then grout and tile on top layer. So don't try to be a perfectionist. Sgt's method works!
Currently in the process of redoing our shower and I have watched and rewatched this so many times. It has made this process so much easier to do!! Thank you for the quality content!
Thank you for this video, it's the best video on a shower pan
Coming from a master plumber…Great display of how it’s done!!
Excellent video ... exactly what I was looking for! Geeze, there's a UA-cam video for everything!
Really good video. Just what I needed. Thanks!
You did great on this video thanks buddy
Hi just came across this video. Thank you so much for making it. A lot of good details and commentary. Thanks again.
I always use a McDonald’s sweet tea cup to dip and pour my water. Makes it easier to control. Great work brother.
Good job! There's more than one way to it, but I like to see how other professionals do it their way. One thing that I could suggest after the liner is installed, I add a 1/4" wood shim from the top of the liner to the ceiling on each stud. You can buy them premade or rip some from a 2"x4"x8' board. This will eliminate the kick out at the bottom giving you a straight wall from floor to ceiling. (Do not place a screw below the shim when installing your concrete board.) I hope that this was helpful. Keep up the good work!
Hi,
I was reading your comment and as a lifelong carpenter im,always looking for better ways to,do things but i dis not understand your explanation of the whole 1/4 shim idea
Could you clarify
Thank you
@@vincent7543 The shim keeps your cement board from kicking out at the bottom where you have the liner .It makes the walls more plum for your tile work
@@myronsmith2114 especially in the corners where liner is folded , "Great idea" !
Great job on the drain with cutting x over the bolts and having liner go into the drain that’s the way it should be done!!
Nice job Sgt, I will start my shower pan today and I will do it right thanks to you, Nice video, Thanks again.
Made me really believe I can do this myself thank you!
Thank you. Fantastic and so helpful.
Thanks for such a great video ,so well explained and detailed. Ty
Good video I screwed up and put in tile shower without a pan so I had to rip floor up and picked your video to do this project yours was the best explained thank you
Best video I’ve seen about a this particular subject….by far. Good job, bro.
Excellent video, sir. Clear shots of what matters and good step-by-step installation. Keep up the good work!
Best video I've seen so far. Thank you!
Great and proper way to build a shower pan base. Drypacking underneath the liner with tar paper is a good step to move the water to the weep holes. The small rocks around the weeping holes is another fantastic idea. Lastly, 2 coats of redguard would make this shower last 25+ years with porcelain mosaic tiles at the sides and base. Not the garbage marble stuff.
Very true! Marble is very porous and high maintenance. Porcelain is the complete opposite. I love porcelain in water area applications! And true on that Redguard as well! 👍
Do you need the tar paper if the house is single level on a concrete foundation?
Well this old tecknik is shit to much work use ditra membrane faster easer to
Best instructional video ever!
This is exactly what I needed to see. Thanks.
Thanks for this video! It’s helping me make a shower floor for the dog bath in our mud room.
Wow
I really love the video too
Great 👍 work mate
Wow! Great video...after watching I've decided to buy a cast iron porcelain shower pan for our remodel job. My old Medicare knees can't do this. Now I understand the attention to detail to do the job right.
great work
Best tutorial ever on how to do the shower! Thanks! New subscriber!
very nice work sir, learned a lot,thank you
great tutorial, thanks
Excellent job.
Looks good. Only things that I do different is in the corners where you fold the liner when you don't have that gap to tuck it into the wall I just chisel a notch to recess it enough to where it wont affect the durock
Yep notch them studs 10inches 1/4
Thank you for the video , it does make me feel like we can do this ourselves. also thank you for showing some of the other ways to keep the slope.
Wow.nice work pro
Great video great woodworking. Great job
Great video, Sgt. Well done, and BZ from a fellow Marine. S/F!!
Sarge, thank you, ive been asked to be the in house tile guy, which i really appreciate, your knowledge and videos are going to help me so much , thank u
Thanks for the kind words. I’m sure you’ll be a great tile guy! Good luck!