I especially like that you make it pretty clear that this is the drywaller's job. As a professional painter for 35 years... oh boy did I end up spending hours upon hours fixing this kind of stuff before I even got ready to prime.
I’m a painter and from what I’ve seen watching your videos you do a great job. It would be amazing to follow you up as a painter. This was a good video. I hate screw pops and this is the first in depth video or explanation I’ve received on how to properly deal with them. Thanks!
I have filled my share of nail pops over the years, Ben, and you did an excellent job of making all of the necessary repairs on this ceiling. As they say in the painting world or in any of the trades, "preparation is 90% of the job!"
I’ve watched a bunch of screw pop videos and they usually only fix one and are only placing one extra screw in. This was SUPER helpful to see the process of fixing Many of them and also how it can introduce even more (which should also be fixed). My house is only about 20 years old but they used nails, not screws and I have a TON I need to fix unfortunately.
If you need drywall video content my newer construction home has pretty much every single issue you can have with drywall :) - I think Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder teamed up to do the drywall work and paint - I don't think there is a single panel in my house that does not have multiple screw pops - or if they aren't pops they weren't sanded enough so it looks like a screw pop anyways. Been trying to fix my upstairs before moving to other parts of the house and a crew came in to level 5 and essentially made it worse - walls look like the moon and still can see where screw pops were repaired lol. They of course tried to make it out like I am just a problem client and was "looking for problems" when you can literally see 9 inch power sanding disc indentations throughout the walls - areas weren't even sanded when they cleaned up and left..literal nonsense but that's the quality of work people do these days. In any event - videos like these are the reason I can do a lot of drywall work myself - they are greatly appreciated..I just wish I had clones of myself or there was more time in the day.
Haha no unfortunately not - down in Tennessee. If you want a vacation to see some mountains and oodles of rednecks, I got ya covered LOL.@@vancouvercarpenter
When my house built in 69, the drywall installers used smooth shank nails in my garage ceiling. All of them are slowly working loose, and I have a lot to repair. It also has a stomp finish to make it harder to repair.
I literally just did this for my old 1960's house. Most of the nails rusted and fell out of the stud.... I wouldn't have discovered the issue if I hadn't decided to change the ceiling fans in the house. Most of the nail pops were masterfully hidden and could only be spotted with a bright light from right angle.
I’ve had to repair more than a few nail pops. I’m sure I will find more when I do other rooms. I use the coarse screws about 1-2 in. on each side after I remove the nail. Mud & sand until smooth then prime & paint. You never know the pops were even there. I doubt they used ANY drywall screws when the place was built just nails. Rinse & repeat every 5-10 years as required. Love the colour variance. Definitely notice how the second coat fills in nicely. Good work as always Ben😃
Yo, sending you tons of appreciation. Your videos have truly catalyzed a large aspect of my contracting career and for that I am quite grateful. Question, would you be interested in doing a video on how you charge for or estimate your jobs? As a one man company charging per square foot rarely seems worth my time, and so I usually just charge my base rate for drywall jobs but can easily get underbid by a larger crew slamming out production work paying their guys $15/hour. How do you navigate this? Thank you so much man.
Have dog(baby) gate at the bottom of the stairs that didn't wasn't mounted to the wall. The drywall is crap, having fun filling in, some shelac primer on the exposed paper etc. It has a 135 degree inside corner and that straigt line looks bad too. We have another spot where a chair took all the paint off on a big area.
I have several drywall screw pops but I think it's because the drywallers used glue, didn't properly press the drywall into the glue (probably by not drilling the screws all the way into the drywall) and so when you lean against the wall there's an air gap and you get soreheads popping the mud out.
love your videos , lots of help going to attempt to mud , tape and sand my basement walls after hanging.. any way you can do a start and to finish video on a wall with butt joints , first coat second coat and what mud you use for each stage, I go to Home Depot here in Ontario and I'm confused in the mud section on what to buy, if you have videos already, can you tag me in them ...Thanks John
Thanks for this very helpful video. Do you think it's necessary to get one of those drywall screw tools? Could I get away with carefully installing the new screws? Is it better to just get the drywall drill thingy and let the tool do the job?
Your videos are informative and well done. Thanks for taking the time to do this! I am a window blind/shade/drapery installer in Dallas, Texas, and find this fascinating. #ILearnedSomethingToday
The Phillips bit on your screw gun, is it the diamond tipped one? If so did it come with the gun or did you buy it? A friend gave me on of his once and said they were good and expensive. My screwgun was literally sticking to the wall for the first few screws. but I can't condone the price lol
The proper standard is to come back and add a second screw to every fastener spot so that there are two screws to every spot. This insures that the wallboard is sucked tight to the stud. Most subcontractors never do this unless it is required by the builder. It's a cost cutting effort, but as you find requires additional work on callbacks.
Well wouldn't ya know it. I've been doing it all wrong. I just take the corner of my mud knife, gouge the drywall around the popped screw, all the way around until you see the head. Unscrew it, clean around my mess I just made, and mud over it, sand and paint. Guess time will tell if that one missing screw will cause the whole ceiling to fall later on😕👷 BTW...guess you couldn't trll, I'm a homeownwer not a contractor... THANK GOODNESS😂
The hanger should never screw that close to a light or switch. When you screw on the plate it will suck the drywall in and make the screw pop drywall 101... Or if it pops.. hanger put in to deep
When repairing screw pops, I generally follow what your video explains, but instead of carving out the pops I'll use the ass end of a putty knife or screw driver to dent it. Is that a bad idea? Haven't had any callbacks, but I suppose that doesn't mean anything.
Can you use premix joint compound anywhere you use quick set and just wait until it dries? Or does the quickset have different adhesion and hardness properties? Anyone?
Even if I don't have drywall in the works, I enjoy sitting back watching a pro make it all look so perfect. ( mixed with a little humor of course) Thanks Vancouver Carpenter
Those were some of your best passes with the mud, especially that last one. I would love to see more camera shots of the mud on the blade before it gets carded off into the pan though. We rarely get to see the amount of mud you are taking off and It would show us a graph-like image of the pressure points you used on each pass. thx.
Really well done. Your attitude is to be molded after. The information you share is always worth the watch. If I lived near you I would work for free if I could work with you on a few jobs. Thanks for all your effort to share your skills.
There wouldn't be anything wrong in terms of the screw's ability to secure the drywall, but the length of the screw with only one layer could lead to screwing into wires/pipe if there aren't any nail guards.
I love the blue tint! Helps it show so much better on video, since it's really hard in videos compared to real life to see exactly how you laid it down. Thanks for doing that.
Thank you for all of your videos. I learned so much about drywall from you. Moved into a new house... over 500 popped screws. It was enough for me to buy a drywall screw gun.
hi ben just wanna say i watch ur channel everyday u have awesome dry wall skills i support u all the way and ur skateboarding tricks are awesome thanks for showing us the right way how to drywall ur awesome
Are there any extra steps you need to take if the seam between the drywall sheets has become visible but not cracked when it sagged and popped the screws?
If you're planning on leaving a little mud on, I use a bigger knife. I do "smooth" wall that way, something I learned doing production work on commercial sites. We used two nail spotter coats, 6" knife, full 8", full 12" which fills in a lot of the exposed paper, and then a full 12" in between in the areas without mud, being careful to not leave too much, just like spotting but not pulling it too tight. It results in a full "putty coat". It helped with the Flashing you were referring to as well. I found myself doing this on my own jobs too if the hangers or the board was a little on the rough side.
Never had a screw pop... Mine were all due to some one using nails not screws. I know this because I scrapped the top of the pop and seen what it was and why. No matter had to be fixed any way but pulled the nail and put in a screw before fixing.
Putting those screws so close together is just perforating the drywall like a sheet of notebook paper. The reason the screws are popping is because of the imperfections in the lumber. Gravity will pull the drywall down again over time. Always glue the piss out of the ceiling rafters to make up any gapage. After the glue dries and hardens it will act as a shim between the wood and the drywall
I especially like that you make it pretty clear that this is the drywaller's job. As a professional painter for 35 years... oh boy did I end up spending hours upon hours fixing this kind of stuff before I even got ready to prime.
It’s a time suck for sure. You don’t want to lay paint over those protrusions. They’ve become a personal obsession in my townhouse renovation.
I’m a painter and from what I’ve seen watching your videos you do a great job. It would be amazing to follow you up as a painter. This was a good video. I hate screw pops and this is the first in depth video or explanation I’ve received on how to properly deal with them. Thanks!
I've also been watching his videos for a while now, and I agree with you.
This guy is fantastic, so thorough. Explains logic and reasoning which most in these industries don’t possess.
I have filled my share of nail pops over the years, Ben, and you did an excellent job of making all of the necessary repairs on this ceiling. As they say in the painting world or in any of the trades, "preparation is 90% of the job!"
My mantra this past month, but still needed to hear that. Painting is the fun/easy part.
I enjoy watching these videos as much as I enjoy my quilting and watercolor videos. Thank you!
I love the smurf mud! I hope we get to see every coat a new colour next time. 😊
I’ve watched a bunch of screw pop videos and they usually only fix one and are only placing one extra screw in. This was SUPER helpful to see the process of fixing Many of them and also how it can introduce even more (which should also be fixed). My house is only about 20 years old but they used nails, not screws and I have a TON I need to fix unfortunately.
Even though you used too much dye, I like the contrast, helps visualize what's happening the second time.
If you need drywall video content my newer construction home has pretty much every single issue you can have with drywall :) - I think Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder teamed up to do the drywall work and paint - I don't think there is a single panel in my house that does not have multiple screw pops - or if they aren't pops they weren't sanded enough so it looks like a screw pop anyways. Been trying to fix my upstairs before moving to other parts of the house and a crew came in to level 5 and essentially made it worse - walls look like the moon and still can see where screw pops were repaired lol. They of course tried to make it out like I am just a problem client and was "looking for problems" when you can literally see 9 inch power sanding disc indentations throughout the walls - areas weren't even sanded when they cleaned up and left..literal nonsense but that's the quality of work people do these days. In any event - videos like these are the reason I can do a lot of drywall work myself - they are greatly appreciated..I just wish I had clones of myself or there was more time in the day.
Are you in Vancouver?
Haha no unfortunately not - down in Tennessee. If you want a vacation to see some mountains and oodles of rednecks, I got ya covered LOL.@@vancouvercarpenter
Best tutorials around. Your work and knowledge are both top notch. Thank you.
Nail/screw pops and best corner bead repair method debates- - both Excellent topics!
Thanks for the good content as usual
Smurf ceilings... I learn so much from you, grateful....
When my house built in 69, the drywall installers used smooth shank nails in my garage ceiling. All of them are slowly working loose, and I have a lot to repair.
It also has a stomp finish to make it harder to repair.
I literally just did this for my old 1960's house. Most of the nails rusted and fell out of the stud.... I wouldn't have discovered the issue if I hadn't decided to change the ceiling fans in the house. Most of the nail pops were masterfully hidden and could only be spotted with a bright light from right angle.
The ceiling in my garage has lots of pops. They used smooth shank nails that are slowly pulling out.
Dude you're still kicking out super useful info. Big thanks buddy!!!!
I’ve had to repair more than a few nail pops. I’m sure I will find more when I do other rooms. I use the coarse screws about 1-2 in. on each side after I remove the nail. Mud & sand until smooth then prime & paint. You never know the pops were even there. I doubt they used ANY drywall screws when the place was built just nails. Rinse & repeat every 5-10 years as required. Love the colour variance. Definitely notice how the second coat fills in nicely. Good work as always Ben😃
You can see the instant regret when he smears that first coat of royal blue mud
Learned yet another thing!! Thank you for all your expertise!! I'm learning so much from you man.. Really appreciate it!!!!
My friend taught me this trick almost 40 years ago, when nails were often used and they would pop as the studs would dry and shrink.
Yo, sending you tons of appreciation. Your videos have truly catalyzed a large aspect of my contracting career and for that I am quite grateful. Question, would you be interested in doing a video on how you charge for or estimate your jobs? As a one man company charging per square foot rarely seems worth my time, and so I usually just charge my base rate for drywall jobs but can easily get underbid by a larger crew slamming out production work paying their guys $15/hour. How do you navigate this? Thank you so much man.
The 2nd coat of mud was a great demonstration illustrating the NEED for the 2nd. Each of the hollow divots would have been noticeable. 👍
Highlighting the differences of use for fine and coarse thread 🤩
This was very much appreciated Ben! 💙
Agree 100 percent w example of floor repair 2 to 4 ft up explanation
Thats why gluing the ceilings are a necessary part of hanging sheetrock. We heavily glued everything.
The contrast between your blue mud and white mud really shows the benefits of the second coat in those screw wells. Very interesting!
Details can getcha' ! Yup.
Agreed!
i tint my mud with chalk line powder 🤷♂️seems to work no issues with cover up with primer
Incredibly smart video, thank you. Fist bumps from Ontario :)
Be kind to each other. Stay safe. Love to all
Have dog(baby) gate at the bottom of the stairs that didn't wasn't mounted to the wall. The drywall is crap, having fun filling in, some shelac primer on the exposed paper etc. It has a 135 degree inside corner and that straigt line looks bad too.
We have another spot where a chair took all the paint off on a big area.
Real ones know you from the skating community. So random seeing you have another successful channel haha
My walls are full of these pop outs. Valuable video. My house is going to look almost brand new by the time im done with it 😂
I appreciate the tint even if it looks crazy in person! Thank you! 😂
Tenting help with the learning curve times 55%
It's
Always a pleasure to see your videos
Thank You. Continue on with your great content!!
My shoulders burn looking at this.
Super helpful video! My only question is: who does drywall repair in a black t-shirt?
I use RIT Blue Jean dye. It's a very subdued grey-blue, covers very easily.
All the cool kids use urnal cake blue mud lol. As always though thanks for doing such a great job teaching
Great tutorial channel, thanks for sharing your expertise!
I have several drywall screw pops but I think it's because the drywallers used glue, didn't properly press the drywall into the glue (probably by not drilling the screws all the way into the drywall) and so when you lean against the wall there's an air gap and you get soreheads popping the mud out.
Nice young stud. I had to repair "nail pops"
THANKS FOR THIS VIDEO..... I HAVE TONS OF POPS IN MY HOUSE.
Love this channel
would the entire area of the ceiling need painting or will it depend if you have the old ceiling paint?
love your videos , lots of help going to attempt to mud , tape and sand my basement walls after hanging.. any way you can do a start and to finish video on a wall with butt joints , first coat second coat and what mud you use for each stage, I go to Home Depot here in Ontario and I'm confused in the mud section on what to buy, if you have videos already, can you tag me in them ...Thanks John
That’s why I screw and glue.
When painting a room a dark colour, would it make sense to tint the mud as close as possible to the wall colour?
i need you to come fix mine professionally
So when someone asks you what your job is..do you say carpenter, youtuber or teacher? Or..all of the above? 😂
Thanks for this very helpful video. Do you think it's necessary to get one of those drywall screw tools? Could I get away with carefully installing the new screws? Is it better to just get the drywall drill thingy and let the tool do the job?
Dumb question: what do you do with extra mud? Can it go down the drain?
Can I ask what about nail pops? Our house has drywall nails all over and they've all popped basically. Same process?
Best way to repair is replace with screws and get the nails out or pound them in fully but yes basically same
I got a room that I’ve just decided the screw pops are now a textured wall pattern
Is it a good idea to spray the holes with kill oil before applying mug to the pop holes?
You shouldn’t need to.
@@vancouvercarpenter I always thought new mud wouldn't stick to raw drywall... Thanks
Your videos are informative and well done. Thanks for taking the time to do this! I am a window blind/shade/drapery installer in Dallas, Texas, and find this fascinating.
#ILearnedSomethingToday
U go the extra mile. I do like one coat on the screws and I’m popcorn paint that bad boy.
I was ALWAYS told SIZE didn't matter!!!
And this is why I glue and screw whenever I can
great information thanks.
We should address the reason for the screw popping. Most installers use way too few screws.
Excellent, just excellent!!!
I glued the studs on my ceiling, I cant find one nail pop.
my drywall's screws were so fine threaded they looked the same as nails.
The Phillips bit on your screw gun, is it the diamond tipped one? If so did it come with the gun or did you buy it? A friend gave me on of his once and said they were good and expensive. My screwgun was literally sticking to the wall for the first few screws. but I can't condone the price lol
I have nail pops everywhere in my house…
The proper standard is to come back and add a second screw to every fastener spot so that there are two screws to every spot. This insures that the wallboard is sucked tight to the stud. Most subcontractors never do this unless it is required by the builder. It's a cost cutting effort, but as you find requires additional work on callbacks.
you opened up a pandoras box with that lol!!
Well wouldn't ya know it. I've been doing it all wrong. I just take the corner of my mud knife, gouge the drywall around the popped screw, all the way around until you see the head. Unscrew it, clean around my mess I just made, and mud over it, sand and paint. Guess time will tell if that one missing screw will cause the whole ceiling to fall later on😕👷 BTW...guess you couldn't trll, I'm a homeownwer not a contractor...
THANK GOODNESS😂
One screw here or there is no problem. Remove many without replacing and you have a problem.
The hanger should never screw that close to a light or switch. When you screw on the plate it will suck the drywall in and make the screw pop drywall 101... Or if it pops.. hanger put in to deep
What brand is your drill gun ?
Hilti
When repairing screw pops, I generally follow what your video explains, but instead of carving out the pops I'll use the ass end of a putty knife or screw driver to dent it. Is that a bad idea? Haven't had any callbacks, but I suppose that doesn't mean anything.
I do that for the mellow ones but the big ones need to be carved out or you will have blister.
@@vancouvercarpenter 👍
Can you use premix joint compound anywhere you use quick set and just wait until it dries? Or does the quickset have different adhesion and hardness properties? Anyone?
Yes of course you can it just takes forever and the air drying mud shrinks. Quikset is harder as he said but not a reason to use over screws.
@@ssl3546 thank you
Yes 👍
#1 don't use screws for steel studs in green wood, looking at you Mattamy.
*on double drywall "fire resistant" walls
Pandora box 😂
I like to push up on the rock by hand while running in the screw so the screw doesn't have to do all the work to pull the sheet rock up.
The blue dye really shows the depth of any additional layers. That was cool. @13:33
Even if I don't have drywall in the works, I enjoy sitting back watching a pro make it all look so perfect. ( mixed with a little humor of course) Thanks Vancouver Carpenter
Really like the idea of tinting (maybe not Smurf blue) to make it easier to find repaired spots. I seem to miss one or two - have to go back.
Those were some of your best passes with the mud, especially that last one. I would love to see more camera shots of the mud on the blade before it gets carded off into the pan though. We rarely get to see the amount of mud you are taking off and It would show us a graph-like image of the pressure points you used on each pass. thx.
Really well done. Your attitude is to be molded after. The information you share is always worth the watch.
If I lived near you I would work for free if I could work with you on a few jobs. Thanks for all your effort to share your skills.
That’s scary as hell some used fine thread screws in wood especially on a ceiling! People try to get others killed out here
Really inspired with your work. I also want to learn this skills. If there any chance to become you student/trainee to gain experience?
Thanks for the drywall advice. Enjoy your videos.
Hey Ben, is there anything wrong with using 1-5/8" screws on 1/2 drywall? Other than them being slightly more expensive
There wouldn't be anything wrong in terms of the screw's ability to secure the drywall, but the length of the screw with only one layer could lead to screwing into wires/pipe if there aren't any nail guards.
Plus in the future if someone wants to run wires or piping, they won’t run into the long screws & damage their drill bits. No surprises.
Been doing this for almost 20 years....You are whom I recommend DIY persons view! Love your personality and commitment to the doing it right approach.
I love the blue tint! Helps it show so much better on video, since it's really hard in videos compared to real life to see exactly how you laid it down. Thanks for doing that.
Thank you for all of your videos. I learned so much about drywall from you. Moved into a new house... over 500 popped screws. It was enough for me to buy a drywall screw gun.
You turn into a screw/nailpop detector. I’m staying in a place where there are 7 screw pops in the wall above my headboard. An exercise in restraint.😃
hi ben just wanna say i watch ur channel everyday u have awesome dry wall skills i support u all the way and ur skateboarding tricks are awesome thanks for showing us the right way how to drywall ur awesome
Are there any extra steps you need to take if the seam between the drywall sheets has become visible but not cracked when it sagged and popped the screws?
I’ve learned SO much from you. Bless you 🙏🏼
Perfectly demonstrates the reason why you need 2 coats. Brilliant video.
He used 3 coats. 2 is not enough.
Big fan here Ben. Stupid question , I heavy second coat, then thin third coat. Any difference ?
If you're planning on leaving a little mud on, I use a bigger knife. I do "smooth" wall that way, something I learned doing production work on commercial sites. We used two nail spotter coats, 6" knife, full 8", full 12" which fills in a lot of the exposed paper, and then a full 12" in between in the areas without mud, being careful to not leave too much, just like spotting but not pulling it too tight. It results in a full "putty coat". It helped with the Flashing you were referring to as well. I found myself doing this on my own jobs too if the hangers or the board was a little on the rough side.
Good video bud, after watching you for a few weeks now I can see why you've been successful with the channel. Keep after it.
imma say it again, COMEBACK work is expensive and one the most pain in the ass parts of a project (and in MOST cases, completely preventable)
Never had a screw pop... Mine were all due to some one using nails not screws. I know this because I scrapped the top of the pop and seen what it was and why. No matter had to be fixed any way but pulled the nail and put in a screw before fixing.
Putting those screws so close together is just perforating the drywall like a sheet of notebook paper. The reason the screws are popping is because of the imperfections in the lumber. Gravity will pull the drywall down again over time. Always glue the piss out of the ceiling rafters to make up any gapage. After the glue dries and hardens it will act as a shim between the wood and the drywall
You should tell us how you got started on drywall and how you figured out this was your gonna be your career.