Yeah this is the way. You memorize the readings of kanji by memorizing the commonly used words that actually use them as a component (or as the whole word itself).
Depends on your goal. If you just wanna listen to stream in JP for example, you don't need to bother with kanji at all. For typing, you do it in kana anyway and the keyboard translates it into kanji for you (like Henya says at 6:00) (though you do have to know which words with the same pronunciation but different kanji and thus meaning you need to use, but you can get that just from experience).
Bang on. That's what Yuta told me (don't learn kanji, learn vocabulary!), I took it to heart, and started exposing myself to more and different words and always writing them in kanji form even when they're usually kana-only in regular Nihongo. it paid off massively in my studies: my teacher tells me I am learning abnormally fast and my handwriting is 'totemo kirei', so big bonus. One year in, and I'm considered mid-beginner by him and able to pass N5 with ease.
To be fair to Japan, the reason for those different pronunciations for day are all because the kanji is being used more for meaning than for the sounds. 3 + day = 3rd day, then you just say it the way 3rd day is said. Also saying the "hi" and "bi" are different pronunciations is a bit unfair, since the "bi" is just the sound being affected by the sound before it.
Japan: _Develops a remarkably coherent language with clear pronunciation patterns_ China: Oh that's a nice language you have there, but don't you want to _write?_ We can teach you our PATENTLY INSANE writing system... it just takes about twenty years of study for one person to learn to read and write! ...That's totally normal, we assure you. I mean, not _everyone_ needs to be able to... right?
Once upon a time, the Japanese aristocracy wanted to write. So they stole China's writing system. Then they misspelled AND mispronounced it all. Then they kept it that way for seven hundred fucking years. Despite the fact that the rest of Japan invented TWO DIFFERENT perfectly good writing systems.
Homie, it only takes 6 months to learn 1000 kanji. Let’s not resort to hyperbole. If you actually spent 20 years learning kanji, you’d learn 40,000 kanji, which is completely useless for the average dude as 3000 is enough for fluency and everything else is just a bonus. You’d be considered highly literate if you knew 6000 since that’s what KanKen tests you for. If you knew 10,000, you’d be a literal kanji scholar or some shit. Anything more than that, you’re not gonna be able to find any kanji that’s useful in the actual language, so spending 20 years to learn is a ridiculously hyperbolic statement.
People complain about English, but Henya is showing why Written Japanese is the TRUE Nightmare!! Henya can't complain about English BS, when Japanese is WORSE!!
One time, my SLS teacher described what it’s like to have dyslexia. He likened it to if, say, the word “quiet” were spelled “gltxv”. Your brain can’t assemble the letters into a coherent word, you just have to memorize that that combination of symbols means “quiet”. I think in a way, that’s kind of like learning kanji.
I've heard learning to read as a deaf (from birth) person described that way. You can't sound it out in your head so you just have to memorize every word. Learning sign language is a lot like that too so a lot of deaf people just give up on learning it because learning to read is hard enough & you can only use sign language with other people who know it so it's usually not worth it.
Japanese would be significantly easier to learn if they followed Korea's example and eliminated kanji in nearly every case. The kana work perfectly well without it.
Easier to learn, yes, but it would be a lot more annoying to read. They'd have to change more than just remove Kanji. So no, Kana don''t work perfectly well without Kanji.
@@Aceshot-uu7yxunironically it requires a whole lot more nationalism that Japan current possess to abolish Kanji. Part of how Hangul came to prominent and largely displaced Hanja, was the desire to break away from “foreign influence” and use something quintessentially “their own”, during and after colonial time.
Henya is pretty Chirpy today, talking about written Japanese, gets her excited.
This is why i believe i should study japanese words as whole, not singled out kanji.
Yeah this is the way. You memorize the readings of kanji by memorizing the commonly used words that actually use them as a component (or as the whole word itself).
Depends on your goal. If you just wanna listen to stream in JP for example, you don't need to bother with kanji at all. For typing, you do it in kana anyway and the keyboard translates it into kanji for you (like Henya says at 6:00) (though you do have to know which words with the same pronunciation but different kanji and thus meaning you need to use, but you can get that just from experience).
Bang on. That's what Yuta told me (don't learn kanji, learn vocabulary!), I took it to heart, and started exposing myself to more and different words and always writing them in kanji form even when they're usually kana-only in regular Nihongo. it paid off massively in my studies: my teacher tells me I am learning abnormally fast and my handwriting is 'totemo kirei', so big bonus. One year in, and I'm considered mid-beginner by him and able to pass N5 with ease.
@@nobafan7515 You do learn japanese words as a whole.
Yup context is king
It ain't so bad until you come across a word that randomly uses a Tou reading you've never heard of out of nowhere-looking at you 行脚.
That awaits in my learning endeavor
Oh, no
To be fair to Japan, the reason for those different pronunciations for day are all because the kanji is being used more for meaning than for the sounds. 3 + day = 3rd day, then you just say it the way 3rd day is said. Also saying the "hi" and "bi" are different pronunciations is a bit unfair, since the "bi" is just the sound being affected by the sound before it.
Japan: _Develops a remarkably coherent language with clear pronunciation patterns_
China: Oh that's a nice language you have there, but don't you want to _write?_ We can teach you our PATENTLY INSANE writing system... it just takes about twenty years of study for one person to learn to read and write! ...That's totally normal, we assure you. I mean, not _everyone_ needs to be able to... right?
Japan has a 99% literacy rate, same as America.
@Kyleology Is that for Hirigana, Katakana, the 300 or so Kanji you learn by middle school or the some 3000 Kanji you learn as an adult?
Once upon a time, the Japanese aristocracy wanted to write. So they stole China's writing system. Then they misspelled AND mispronounced it all. Then they kept it that way for seven hundred fucking years. Despite the fact that the rest of Japan invented TWO DIFFERENT perfectly good writing systems.
@@Aceshot-uu7yx Around 3000-4000 kanji I would say.
Homie, it only takes 6 months to learn 1000 kanji. Let’s not resort to hyperbole. If you actually spent 20 years learning kanji, you’d learn 40,000 kanji, which is completely useless for the average dude as 3000 is enough for fluency and everything else is just a bonus. You’d be considered highly literate if you knew 6000 since that’s what KanKen tests you for. If you knew 10,000, you’d be a literal kanji scholar or some shit. Anything more than that, you’re not gonna be able to find any kanji that’s useful in the actual language, so spending 20 years to learn is a ridiculously hyperbolic statement.
Kanji is the only thing keeping me from passing N3.
I barely passed mine with listening skill carried the rest lol
Need more words!
Adorkable
On the grind
0:22 Ducky?
Yeah exactly lmao!
People complain about English, but Henya is showing why Written Japanese is the TRUE Nightmare!!
Henya can't complain about English BS, when Japanese is WORSE!!
She can if she complains about both. As an English speaker studying Japanese, I do that all the time.
To be fair, there's a lot of BS to English as well
2年は高校で日本語を勉強してました。
ひらがなとカタカナはやさしいです。
漢字を難しいです。
漢字を少し読めます。
One time, my SLS teacher described what it’s like to have dyslexia. He likened it to if, say, the word “quiet” were spelled “gltxv”. Your brain can’t assemble the letters into a coherent word, you just have to memorize that that combination of symbols means “quiet”.
I think in a way, that’s kind of like learning kanji.
I've heard learning to read as a deaf (from birth) person described that way. You can't sound it out in your head so you just have to memorize every word. Learning sign language is a lot like that too so a lot of deaf people just give up on learning it because learning to read is hard enough & you can only use sign language with other people who know it so it's usually not worth it.
Woah
Me when I don’t know the difference between 漢語(Kango) and 和語(Wago).
流石は日の本の天才さん (,,>᎑
half of japan's problems would go away if they got rid of kanji.
Thankfully the only little japanese I know is from anime. So its all the same to me. 😊😅
Japanese would be significantly easier to learn if they followed Korea's example and eliminated kanji in nearly every case. The kana work perfectly well without it.
Easier to learn, yes, but it would be a lot more annoying to read. They'd have to change more than just remove Kanji. So no, Kana don''t work perfectly well without Kanji.
I rather hear the accent henya.
Just make my life easier and switch to korean script already Japan
You do know WHO you are asking to admit the Koreans did something better than them right?
Hahaha…
No…
They already have hiragana and katakana.
@@Aceshot-uu7yxunironically it requires a whole lot more nationalism that Japan current possess to abolish Kanji. Part of how Hangul came to prominent and largely displaced Hanja, was the desire to break away from “foreign influence” and use something quintessentially “their own”, during and after colonial time.
@@lc9245 Dude, they historically hate Koreans. That was the joke.