The Forgotten Controversy of the 3DS Launch

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  • Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
  • Everyone remembers the 3DS as a breakout success. Although it absolutely was a success, it didn’t happen overnight. This is the story of a controversy no one remembers, and for good reason.
    0:00 Hey, remember the 3DS launch?
    5:13 Wait what even is 3D?
    13:05 Stereo Hysteria
    16:23 Let's ask the pros
    Thumbnail by the absolute whiz @hotcyder
    Guest voices by @ZacFrazier @MMLCommentaries @LambHoot @Chariot_Rider @ThePlayingField and @ Tayls
    Twitter: / bobbybroccole
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    kotaku.com/doctors-say-the-3d...
    v1.escapistmagazine.com/news/...
    www.wsj.com/articles/SB100014...
    www.ft.com/content/68377bfe-8...
    www.kotaku.com.au/2011/04/so-...
    www.techradar.com/news/gaming...
    www.pcworld.com/article/22072...
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    IGN - All Super Mario 3D Land Footage, E3 conferences and 3DS game trailers
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    Music:
    3DS Friend's List, Swapnote Theme, 3DS eshop theme.
    VVVVVV - Passion for Exploring
    Mutant Mudds - World 1-2
    Super Mario 3D Land - Clock Tower, Beach Overworld, Boo Waltz, Underground Cave
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  • @krono9451
    @krono9451 2 роки тому +2210

    Actually, a 3DS was approved for use at Moorfields Eye Hospital (Hospital aligned with my university, UCL) for treating amblyopia (or lazy eye) in children!

    • @paigeconnelly4244
      @paigeconnelly4244 2 роки тому +148

      It's more than that. It's the oldest sepcialist opthamology hosital and biggest of It's kind in the whole continent of Europe. And NHS, so completely free for British taxpayers. It's also aligned with Barts and the London Medical School (QMUL) and City UoL.

    • @cpt_nordbart
      @cpt_nordbart Рік тому +29

      Really? Weird . I was actually operated because of that. Still a bit visible if you look closely. Anyway as a consequence of that I can only see with one eye. So either left or right.

    • @smore8566
      @smore8566 Рік тому +49

      Whoa no way! I have amblyopia and loved my 3DS for that reason: it felt like it really helped my lazy eye

    • @jamesterpaul
      @jamesterpaul Рік тому +5

      Is that related to that one iCarly episode where they have 3d?

    • @aubreyh1930
      @aubreyh1930 Рік тому +5

      Can anyone find a source for this? Looked it up and found nothing about it being usable for treatment, just finding the issues

  • @FinnbarrGoesFast
    @FinnbarrGoesFast 2 роки тому +1039

    We had the book "Henry's magic eye" or something at my primary school library, which everyone loved for the secret pop out 3D images, which I never once saw. I also thought 3D movies were overhyped because they just looked messy and not even 3D. I got a 3DS when I was 12 or so, and played with the 3D off because it didn't really do a lot for me. Turns out I had amblyopia, but instead of realising I was missing out, I just assumed all 3D products were a bit shit lol

    • @Vgamer311
      @Vgamer311 Рік тому +93

      If it makes you feel any better, most of them are a bit shit, even for people with perfectly functioning eyes. I know a lot of people who have absolutely nothing wrong with them who can never see the images in hidden eye images, and the 3ds 3D effect is pretty shallow even when working correctly

    • @pinccgoshsuperfantwo
      @pinccgoshsuperfantwo Рік тому +29

      I didn't know until I was 20 that I had amblyopia and it really sucked to just "find out" after I had been trying to get 3d to work.

    • @tridinh1011
      @tridinh1011 Рік тому +5

      Well, even now, 3D tech in general is still shit. So you really didnt miss out that much in that field

    • @theninjamaster67
      @theninjamaster67 Рік тому +13

      @@Vgamer311 The 3D worked really well for me on the 3DS so that might just be variations in people even without having an eye condition cause I've seen both point of views online that the 3D either worked super well for them or didn't work all that well at all.

    • @nazaxprime
      @nazaxprime Рік тому +4

      *so I aggressively lobbied against them and never admired it to anyone until now.
      😂

  • @CLR438
    @CLR438 4 роки тому +757

    Back in early 2011 I was in army and I listened a ton of radio because of this. A popular rock station in my country ran a campaign where the hosts played the release titles and it felt really bizarre to me at the time. It felt odd that Nintendo would market their device so heavily on a station that mostly men between the ages 30-50 would listen to.
    I wonder if Nintendo changed their marketing because they were worried that parents would refuse to buy 3DS for their children?

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  4 роки тому +252

      Yooo this is actually a really neat point, a lot of the early trailers focus on either just the games or adults, whereas later trailers (especially the 2DS) focus on kids using the system.

    • @radiokunio3738
      @radiokunio3738 2 роки тому +58

      @@BobbyBroccoli I remember the market for the "new" 3ds was focused on adults too, with monster hunter 3 being the selling point.

    • @krzlcve
      @krzlcve 2 роки тому +8

      @@radiokunio3738 oh yeah fs, when that came out it wasn't in kids interest

    • @nazaxprime
      @nazaxprime Рік тому +8

      This isn't Nintendo's first rodeo, they know their markets exactly and when to leverage their advantages.

  • @squiddler7731
    @squiddler7731 2 роки тому +249

    Nintendo had actually cut the price of the 3DS before the Vita launched, so there was never a point where they were both on the market at the same time for the same price

    • @joebot86
      @joebot86 2 роки тому +9

      They also were not selling it at a loss at 260, and I'm not sure they were at 180 either.

    • @cheesewedge
      @cheesewedge Рік тому +10

      @@joebot86 All consoles are sold at a loss, so that the games can provide a massive profit

    • @joebot86
      @joebot86 Рік тому +26

      @@cheesewedge this isn't totally true, Nintendo in particular uses old parts to keep costs down so that it can profit on both games and console. In fact, for the switch, Nintendo explicitly said they made profit per unit sold.
      From further research: the 3DS was sold at a profit at it's original price, the price cut took it into loss territory for a year until manufacturing got cheaper.

    • @jzatchbell
      @jzatchbell Рік тому +3

      @@cheesewedge Sony and Microsoft always sell at a loss. Nintendo sells at a profit or very rarely at Cost.

    • @genderender
      @genderender Рік тому +3

      @@joebot86 The price cut nuked profits until Christmas since the only titles at the time were Ocarina of Time and uh. Once MK7 and 3D Land came out, things looked a lot better wrt profitability. And by the time that Pokemon XY had come out, costs had come down enough for the XL and 2DS to be released with very little loss. The Wii U always sold for a loss however

  • @XAustria
    @XAustria 2 роки тому +346

    As someone who is very nearsighted, I loved using the 3D on games it worked with. I didn't notice much if any eye strain from it. But not long after I got my first 3Ds my eyes got bad enough to where the range away from my eyes I generally held my 3DS was getting blurry from my nearsightedness getting worse. The head tracking in the new 3DS helped a LOT.
    And no I don't think the 3DS made my eyes any worse. I'm genetically predisposed to nearsightedness and both my parents have it, my mom's eyes are even worse than mine. The rate they got worse didn't change when I started using the 3DS and leveled out well before I stopped using the console, as I imagine would be expected as I had finished growing.

    • @jadedfire4351
      @jadedfire4351 5 місяців тому

      genuinely yeah, the head tracking made the 3d a lot more useable

  • @ricinaddict
    @ricinaddict 2 роки тому +517

    unfortunately i am blind in one eye from birth and i remember feeling personally betrayed by nintendo when the 3ds first came out. for the record i was 10

    • @DougieJenson
      @DougieJenson 2 роки тому +58

      I felt betrayed because there wasn't a left handed model.

    • @pablocl3186
      @pablocl3186 2 роки тому +55

      @@DougieJenson have there ever been left handed models for nintendo consoles? just curious

    • @el.tuerto
      @el.tuerto 2 роки тому +6

      Heyyyy I have one eye too bro you aren’t alone I felt that way too

    • @tumbles8350
      @tumbles8350 2 роки тому +16

      You really aren't missing out on anything with this console, even with the improved tracking new 3ds it occasionally glitches out if you look away, or tilt your head, or fucking blink, goes from an interesting gimmick to actually making your eyes hurt.

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 2 роки тому +3

      @@DougieJenson but there (kinda) were
      Some games ask you and give you the option to either use your left or right hand

  • @Hansgame
    @Hansgame 2 роки тому +252

    a bit off topic, but i found it always super funny that the "dual screen" feature was already invented by nintendo in the early 1980´s and they already sold 40 mil. + of this weird handhelds that only had 1 game on it (Game & Watch). that they recycled the idea almost 30 years later and it was still a huge success is even more epic.

    • @vurpo7080
      @vurpo7080 2 роки тому +49

      Good ideas don't age. I mean we're still playing video games on big flat rectangles like 50 years later

    • @intrepidnick2939
      @intrepidnick2939 2 роки тому

      look at these betas not in meta smh

    • @bareq99
      @bareq99 2 роки тому +1

      I so wish for a dual screened Switch

    • @bananian
      @bananian 2 роки тому

      Resell it for every generation lol

    • @cheesedari8899
      @cheesedari8899 4 місяці тому

      @@bareq99switch screen and tv screen

  • @nathanswag1006
    @nathanswag1006 4 роки тому +890

    Parents: NOOOO YOU CANT PUT 3D IN YOUR SYSTEM! YOU’RE PUTTING KIDS IN DANGER!!!!
    Nintendo: Haha Mario go jump and he pops out

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  4 роки тому +87

      lmao

    • @RamsTheNameCom
      @RamsTheNameCom 4 роки тому +54

      @FatalNathan .....Mario Jumped and he popped out at me. At first it seemed like a gimmicky 3D effect, but he Jump Man Ma Ma Mario became hyper realistic and bleed at me from his fuckin' beautiful eyelashes... From that day on, I ducktape the 3Ds 3d switch to the off position and learned never ouch my peepee hole.
      (There's my 3DS creepy pasta).

    • @CypressConroy
      @CypressConroy 3 роки тому +20

      RamsTheNameCom wtf did I just read

    • @RamsTheNameCom
      @RamsTheNameCom 3 роки тому +10

      @@CypressConroy You just read my Creepy Pasta parody. I mean "FatalNathan" did say that Mario jumps and he pops out at you.

    • @happyjohn1656
      @happyjohn1656 2 роки тому

      You're*
      11:32 PM
      2/3/2022

  • @elijahsimmering2082
    @elijahsimmering2082 2 роки тому +149

    I just realized the reason I always thought the 3d was so shitty was bc I have very poor binocular vision that I didn’t get diagnosed with for like 4 years after getting a 3ds

    • @lottiestewart8918
      @lottiestewart8918 Рік тому +19

      My wife used to think 3D was a shit gimmick until they realised the problem was their eyes and not the 3D

  • @DavidJamesHenry
    @DavidJamesHenry Рік тому +63

    I remember the horrible launch specifically because it was so discounted at Toys R Us to get people to buy them that my poor mom and her meager salary was able to get 3 3DS systems for my brother, my sister, and me for 100 bucks each.
    That's a core memory because it was my first taste of luxury in my childhood.

    • @TheHortoman
      @TheHortoman 6 місяців тому +3

      Wow i wouldve felt so fucking spoiled (in a good way) if all of my siblings got a 3ds, a 3ds no less. Props to your mom im glad everything turned alright

  • @championoflove3638
    @championoflove3638 4 роки тому +140

    Just incredible. This video was completely + utterly entertaining, informative and well made. Not only did you communicate these complex ideas to the layman well using your graphics and words, but you did it without severely dumbing down important information. Not an easy thing to do! I just hope that you get views that you deserve someday. Until then, we utterly appreciate your work Bobby.

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  4 роки тому +22

      Thanks so much! I've been meaning to make my videos more technical for a while now and I wanted to do it in a way my existing fans find entertaining. Making it too dry was my biggest worry, so I'm glad people find it easy to follow. This was the best cross-section of my interests since my research at school is in photonics, so the 3DS seemed like the perfect topic.

    • @hase3362
      @hase3362 2 роки тому +4

      Well 1 year later and hes blowing up. 25k subs in a week, maybe even more..

    • @justinhunt1714
      @justinhunt1714 Рік тому +1

      And I here I am just discovering this amazing channel 2 years later tonight and this is some.high quality content right here.
      I've watched 3 videos and I'm loving it

  • @inkuii
    @inkuii 2 роки тому +49

    I remember all the hysteria on the 3ds and eyesight back in the day. It took a lot of persuading my parents and the release of Pokemon X and Y for me to finally get the XL model…only to turn on the 3d feature once and then keeping it off anyway

  • @LalitoTV
    @LalitoTV 2 роки тому +189

    Imagine if the 3DS had launched with the new 3DS' screen upgrade, it's honestly shocking how great it works on the newer models, almost like magic compared to the original

    • @tumbles8350
      @tumbles8350 2 роки тому +5

      Is it? I started with the new 3ds and hate the 3d, doesn't work well and if it loses tracking it fucking hurts, the original must have been horrific

    • @Clarkzer0
      @Clarkzer0 2 роки тому +19

      @@tumbles8350 Yeah, it's much, much better. Not exceptionally great, but so much better than original it's night and day.

    • @tumbles8350
      @tumbles8350 2 роки тому +6

      @@Clarkzer0 rip all those who had their eyes melted by the og

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 Рік тому +1

      @@tumbles8350 it's awesome!
      Never had the og 3DS to compare, but the new 3DS screen is a really cool thing that I wish would have seen more widespread adoption

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому

      @@tumbles8350 my eyes would refocus every 15-30 seconds on the original, and every time it took a sec to readjust and see the 3D. Also if you twisted or tilted it at all it stopped working so you had to have your arms out really straight. I turned it off after 20 minutes and never turned it on again. Tried a New one, it definitely worked properly, but I didn’t care enough to re-purchase the system.

  • @peblezQ
    @peblezQ 2 роки тому +54

    As a kid, I didn't realize I had a stigmatizm that made it harder for one of my eyes to focus, so 3D has never looked right for me because of that and I never understood the appeal because I never got to experience it properly

    • @Romcomm_
      @Romcomm_ Рік тому +2

      i have astigmatism too but only had the new xl model, it worked pretty well for me, not sure if i'd have a issue with the older model though so i cant really compare

    • @abbiepancakeeater52
      @abbiepancakeeater52 Рік тому +4

      the 3d worked for me as far as im aware but i never used it because it did make me a little uncomfortable, plus it was a hassle to stay in the same position to ensure the 3d stayed working.

    • @aurorapavlish-carpenter3978
      @aurorapavlish-carpenter3978 10 місяців тому +1

      I have pretty bad astigmatism and the 3ds did look 3d for me as a kid, but it did make my eyes hurt a LOT within only like a minute.

    • @ReerPeak
      @ReerPeak 4 місяці тому

      Dude you just made me realize why I hated the 3D so much, I was told I have an astigmatism like 3 or 4 years after getting my 3DS

  • @aldebaran_
    @aldebaran_ 2 роки тому +55

    I miss the 3D when playing Mario Kart on the 3DS (versus playing Mario Kart now on the Switch). The depth of field not only made it so much more immersive but easier to identify where to turn

    • @StormBurnX
      @StormBurnX 2 роки тому +2

      Same. Trying to play non-3DS 3D Mario titles (like the Wii u one, and odyssey) are particularly frustrating now in comparison. Mario kart is more about timing once you're up to speed, so it's a little easier to manage without 3D, but it really truly was wonderful.

    • @ipadbossbaby4558
      @ipadbossbaby4558 6 місяців тому

      I thought the 3D Mario game benefitted massively from the depth of field too. A lot easier to judge platform distance when you can literally sense it

  • @shauyaun4285
    @shauyaun4285 2 роки тому +34

    After 10 years i still daily drive my 3DS and i have not had a streetpass hit in sooooooooo long :(

    • @BigOlSmellyFlashlight
      @BigOlSmellyFlashlight Рік тому +6

      i've almost never had streetpass hits and i've had a 3ds since launch day. gotta love small town usa

    • @ipadbossbaby4558
      @ipadbossbaby4558 6 місяців тому

      Praying the switch 2 has street pass and miiverse 🙏

  • @hatwearinggamer
    @hatwearinggamer 4 роки тому +97

    This was so interesting to watch

  • @laggingdragons
    @laggingdragons 2 роки тому +17

    Fun fact, if you can cross your eyes you can see a stereogram in 3D without any fancy lenses by overlapping the images so there is three of them and focusing on the middle one

  • @g-radical349
    @g-radical349 Рік тому +5

    I watched this video at some point a couple years ago, and found myself watching it again today. I laughed my head off at 5.25, coz when I watched it the first time round I watched it with two eyes. But 6 months ago I lost my left eye in an accident, and your condolences felt incredibly personalised and I appreciate the inclusion in a way I hadn't anticipated.
    Thank you, you're a bloody legend.

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  Рік тому +3

      I'm sorry to hear that! Hope you're doing okay

    • @g-radical349
      @g-radical349 Рік тому +1

      @@BobbyBroccoli thanks mate, yeh it's definitely been an adjustment - but it's been a lot easier to adapt to the changes than I had imagined it to be honestly. Plus I get to wear a dope eye patch now unironically ;) But yeh man, that single sentence hit me hard because it made me realise how it hadn't even registered the first time around. And your explanation of it would have made sense without it, but putting it in there anyway made that part a lot more engaging for me as it took me along with the journey just through acknowledgement,
      Anyway it's cool to me to have had the chance to feel what inclusivity feels like for the first meaningful time on a personal level. It's something I've thought about a bunch in my own work, and try to put into practice where I can, but until now it's been one of those things I'd only been able to understand on a theoretical level, Keep up the awesome work and excellent videos, I'm amped for the upcoming part 2!

  • @alex.thedeadite
    @alex.thedeadite Рік тому +11

    9:06 "not used for very long" meaning until mid to late 2000s as most movies still used cyan and red well into the new millennium. Sharkboy and Lava Girl was one of the last I can think of to use Red and Cyan lenses. The only places I saw polarized used was in museums and theme parks before then.

    • @important9836
      @important9836 4 місяці тому

      I wonder if this is a location specific difference. Polarized (non coloured) 3d glasses were introduced in the 80's, and I still have a pair from the first 3d movie I went to in 2001, which are polarized.

  • @NevaehBeatez
    @NevaehBeatez 2 роки тому +7

    I got the 3DS XL for Christmas and it helped diagnose my astigmatism because I thought 3D was on when it wasn't because I had double vision

  • @rainbcwdream
    @rainbcwdream 2 роки тому +9

    One thing I noticed with my 3DS, is that if you turn on the 3D, there is this little red light inside the camera (though I may remember wrong), and it really felt like the 3D effect followed your eyes to a small extent. I assume the face tracking (if there is any, as it really felt like there was) is there to be able to show you the clearest image possible.

    • @rainbcwdream
      @rainbcwdream 2 роки тому +2

      lmao, just got to the new 3ds part of the video, it makes sense now

  • @Vbeechu
    @Vbeechu 2 роки тому +6

    4:50 I played with it off because I couldn't tell what it did, and then i realized almost all the games I played didn't have 3d support

  • @jiasheng
    @jiasheng Рік тому +6

    lmao the classic 3d "will irreparably destroy your eyesight" or the "its brain damage, headaches!!!!!!" scare is great nostalgic memories for me, had my parents worried

  • @joeganbogan270
    @joeganbogan270 2 роки тому +25

    Great video! It's funny though, I feel like the only one who really used the 3D religiously, and while the effect was cool, it was mostly just because I preferred how games looked with the halved horizontal resolution.

  • @starffruit
    @starffruit 2 роки тому +6

    wow this is … really wild to watch. this handheld was definitely a majority of my childhood (i’m 20 now); i had the DS lite, DSi, and DSi XL, but the 3DS took up a majority of the 2010s for me as my favorite console. the new 2DS XL specifically is my favorite of the 3DS family, and i’ll never stop loving that thing.
    it’s really interesting to see how much controversy surrounded this family-at least in its early days. since i was, uh, 10 when the 3DS launched, i had no idea that any of this really happened, besides the whole “the 3DS will melt children’s eyes” thing, since my grandma was worried about that until she realized i very rarely used the 3D function (and with the 2DS XL, i can’t and don’t want to use it in the first place).
    this is just generally a really fascinating video to me. very informational too. i appreciate the effort you put into this!

  • @chriswalker4053
    @chriswalker4053 2 роки тому +21

    It was really interesting hearing about 3d image rendering techniques. I work in audio and the principles are quite the same with 3d audio, particularly binaural sound, which ideally takes into account head shape and splitting a stereo sound into two discrete channels for each ear listening through headphones

  • @fishhuh
    @fishhuh 2 роки тому +37

    i remember when i got a 3ds when I was like, 7, that I thought the 3d feature was a "ok cool, whatever" thing. Like, I remember turning it on for maybe a few seconds at a time to see what certain things would look like with it on because I thought it was cool, but almost always had it turned off because it just hurt my eyes. The fact that people would actually sit down and use their 3ds with it on completely baffles me.
    (though to be fair, I suspect I also have poor binocular vision, as I've never been able to even watch 3d movies in the theatre as it hurt my eyes so much. The idea that people used their 3ds with the 3d feature on for longer than *30 minutes* makes my eyes hurt just thinking about it lmao)

    • @abbyb5690
      @abbyb5690 Рік тому +1

      Out of curiosity fo you have lazy eye? Edit: I also wonder about astigmatism. I'm asking because I'd like to know about whether these affect the ability to see in 3d in relation to the 3ds

    • @fishhuh
      @fishhuh Рік тому +1

      @@abbyb5690 last time i went to the eye doctor they said i had very slight astigmatism, but im also very slightly farsighted. I say very slightly because these were small enough to just be comments the doctor made along the lines of "so you technically have this but its so mild its not really an issue", besides that i would have close to 20/20 vision

    • @kaitlyn__L
      @kaitlyn__L Рік тому +1

      @@fishhuh I relate to your original post and I also have astigmatism which is so mild that correction would be too much and cause more problems. Never thought about them relating to 3D enjoyment. Guess it makes sense tho.

  • @JammoYT
    @JammoYT 2 роки тому +7

    As a kid, I really wanted a 3DS when it came out. But my mum forbid it because she read about it damaging eyes. But luckily my dad decided to be cool and buy one for me for Christmas of 2012

  • @Gardelias
    @Gardelias 2 роки тому +13

    I swear I was so used to the 3D effect that I'd turn it on in any game I could and would get upset with games that just didn't have it enabled because of framerate issues (I'm looking at you, Pokemon Y). It was just so cool and made the games feel much more alive to me, though it is also true that with some of them it was hard to play with 3D on for a long period of time (2+ hours).
    An example of that would be Dead or Alive Dimensions, where the 3D effect would make the separation between the characters on the screen and the background elements SO deep that it'd start giving actual dizziness looking at it for that long, so I would either turn it down to a minimal level or turn it off completely. The fact that you had to look at the screen straight and any angle would mess it up kinda sucked but wasn't too bad to deal with. Still wish I had the chance to trade my old 3DS for a new one back then lol.
    With that said, great video!

  • @natebardwell
    @natebardwell Рік тому +10

    In fairness, I don't usually get eye fatigue but I couldn't get more than an hour of play in 3D mode before it really started messing with me. It put strain on my eyes for sure.

    • @aurorapavlish-carpenter3978
      @aurorapavlish-carpenter3978 10 місяців тому +1

      I have astigmatism in both eyes and I could literally only turn it on for like a minute before it started hurting my eyes a lot

  • @marymurphy1429
    @marymurphy1429 2 роки тому +9

    I played with the 3d off, not because of any discomfort, but because you had hold the system in a specific way to have it work and with my can't sit still tendencies I just couldn't do that. Also it was cool, but more of a novelty than anything. I'm fine playing most games in 2d

  • @DaddyPoobs
    @DaddyPoobs 4 роки тому +39

    I love the visual examples you used to show how our eyes perceive 3D. Very education and very well produced. Great stuff!

  • @Pablo360able
    @Pablo360able 2 роки тому +33

    I’m glad you gave a brief shoutout to KI:U, the only game I use 3D for. It may have been by and large a gimmick for most games that used it, but that game really put the system to work. It’s also one of the funniest games ever made and there’s not enough love for it, I feel.

    • @debleb166
      @debleb166 2 роки тому +5

      It's also good for Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate. Having it on in underwater areas makes positioning a good bit easier for me.

    • @Armund_Wolffe
      @Armund_Wolffe Рік тому +3

      KI:U is one of my favorite games of all time; i've played that campaign through more times than i can count.

    • @PopeLeoXIIIFanAccount
      @PopeLeoXIIIFanAccount Рік тому +1

      What does KI:U stand for?

    • @Armund_Wolffe
      @Armund_Wolffe Рік тому +1

      @@PopeLeoXIIIFanAccount Kid Icarus: Uprising!
      Great 3DS game.

    • @PopeLeoXIIIFanAccount
      @PopeLeoXIIIFanAccount Рік тому +1

      @@Armund_Wolffe thanks ive heard that game is beloved

  • @YomBouyashaka
    @YomBouyashaka 3 роки тому +49

    I'm only 2min and 30s in, and I need to pause to say that I'd like to see an alternate reality where Sony didn't sabotaged the Vita themselves because they decided that all of their investments had to go to the PS4, it would be a very different market by now if they had kept supporting the studios developping exclusively handheld games mostly since the PsP. The PS4 wouldn't have been as huge of a success but with continuous support the Vita would have crushed it Capcom would have had to change their mind (no Monster Hunter on Vita is also a very "game changing" side of the story), they'd definitely have released a Vita 2 and I'm curious to know how it would have changed Nintendo's and Microsoft's plans and consoles. Maybe the hugely successful hybrid console of the market would be a Sony one, and knowing their way to embrace technology, it would have been a powerhouse compared with the Switch.

  • @Armund_Wolffe
    @Armund_Wolffe Рік тому +2

    man, i need to get a 'new' 3ds.
    my old og XL is on her last legs, and i still love playing the old ds and 3ds games.
    the fact that the switch couldn't have backwards compatibility will always be criminal.

  • @Mr_NB628
    @Mr_NB628 Рік тому +2

    Thank you for your condolences. One of the few videos that actually makes mention to people that have one eye.
    Always bothered me that people keep coming out with all of these VR devices/AR and never makes any mention how it will work with somebody that has one eye.

  • @archivushka
    @archivushka 2 роки тому +4

    Sadly, there's no 3d nausea, instead you don't notice the 3d effect after a few minutes (if everything is set up correctly)

  • @freduccini7423
    @freduccini7423 2 роки тому +3

    I had a couple friends whos parents refused to buy them a 3ds family system until the 2ds came out because of these concerns. even back then I knew that their parents were worried over an overhyped "issue"

  • @ameteuraspirant
    @ameteuraspirant Рік тому +5

    One thing I want to mention at 13:00 is the newer 3ds models actually had a wider viewing angle for the 3d, and are much more comfortable experiences. I don't know exactly how they worked, but they basically used the camera to track your head's position to shift the "fence" in your analogy so that the effect didn't warp or break down until you got to some pretty extreme angles.

  • @snugglemuffins762
    @snugglemuffins762 2 роки тому +3

    I have binocular vision dysfunction and have terrible depth perception and lots of eye issues, I was never able to handle the 3DS and never knew why as a kid till my diagnosis

  • @Nitroxity
    @Nitroxity Рік тому +2

    I'm still trying to figure out 11 years later why one of my classmates in 3rd grade during the run-up to the launch of the 3DS thought that viewing the 3D for too long would cause people to swallow their tongue. Even as a nine year old I was baffled. My best guess is that it had to do with long proven falsities related to seizures, but that's stretching it considering the average elementary schooler doesn't know what epilepsy is, nor was that the main concern in any media coverage at the time.

  • @potatoria
    @potatoria 2 роки тому +2

    wow your videos are so interesting and well made, even for topics I wasn’t too interested in when I first clicked on them. u have a great ability to tell a compelling narrative that is also balanced and educational.
    I had a 3DS as a kid but I never used the feature much. And only recently found I had amblyopia, so growing up I just assumed strained eyes were a part of the 3D experience.

  • @Violant3
    @Violant3 2 роки тому +11

    i love 3d, it's such a cool technology, feels like magic to see something pop out of a screen, and to see that nintendo actually made it work without glasses is really impressive, it's a shame that the fad died down, i really enjoy playing games with 3d turned on.

    • @LRM12o8
      @LRM12o8 Рік тому +4

      Same, I wish my PC monitor had that technology, but I fear we may never get 3D screens again once VR headsets get widespread adoption

  • @featherlikescartoons5098
    @featherlikescartoons5098 Рік тому

    I listen to videos like these while I draw, and your channel was a joy to stumble on! Thanks for making great content and keep at it!

  • @AnniChu
    @AnniChu 2 роки тому +3

    Wonderful video!! Very educational! I grew up playing the 3DS, besides the Wii it’s what REALLY got me hooked on gaming. I got my first 3DS Christmas of 2011 packaged with Nintendogs, haha. I think I remember my mom warning me not to use the 3D effect too much. I never did use it all that often anyways, but I do remember it making some things look particularly beautiful in games, such as the clear night sky in Animal Crossing New Leaf. I have such wonderful memories with the console and it absolutely shaped me into who I am today.

  • @MisakaMikotoDesu
    @MisakaMikotoDesu 3 роки тому +3

    The algorithm suggested this channel, so hopefully that's a good sign for you. Good luck! I love videos like these.

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  3 роки тому +3

      Thanks! Really appreciate it. Out of curiosity, where did you get recommended it from?

    • @MisakaMikotoDesu
      @MisakaMikotoDesu 3 роки тому

      ​@@BobbyBroccoli I actually have some detail that I can provide with this. On Oct 4 around maybe 2-4pm CST I searched "bill nye saves the world". It was the 4th result. The 1st result was the official Netflix trailer, the 2nd was "Bill Nye DESTROYS the gender binary with an abacus (part 1)" by a youtuber called WewLad, the 3rd video was an upload of the "My Sex Junk" song, and the 4th was your video. The rest of the videos after yours are all just clips from the show, some official some third party uploads.
      Hope the extra details help out a bit. Your videos on the Bell Labs scandal are extremely interesting. Thank you!

  • @scragar
    @scragar 2 роки тому +4

    Ai used to play with 3d off because for some reason for me to see the 3D even at the lowest setting I needed to hold the console at arms reach, and with such a small screen on the initial 3DS that just rendered text impossible to read.
    It's something I turned on when I needed it for of the Mario 3D world levels and left it off the rest of the time.

  • @alienguyfromspace2147
    @alienguyfromspace2147 4 роки тому +5

    Amazing video I'm surprised how underrated you are.

  • @jonathangrandorf1104
    @jonathangrandorf1104 2 роки тому +5

    "monochromatic motion sickness machine" i laughed way too hard at this

  • @Computer-Woman
    @Computer-Woman 2 роки тому

    im loving your channel, your writing is great, please keep making videos!

  • @LoverofChildren
    @LoverofChildren Рік тому +4

    I have astigmatism and struggled to see the 3D even with my glasses on, but with the New 3DS I don't even have an issue without them. It's a design philosophy that is very surprising to see from a large company, especially one who's been notoriously greedy. It demonstrates that despite the greed, the ones working on their products really care about their consumers.

    • @Pavlinka__
      @Pavlinka__ Рік тому +1

      Oh, that's interesting. I also have astigmatism but i don't recall any problems with 3d personally. I actually see things 3d even if they're not, lol. Maybe I'm overcompensating.

  • @robertgoodberry
    @robertgoodberry 4 роки тому +2

    Great watch. Also really appreciated the use of the Green Brinstar theme.

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  4 роки тому

      Thanks! I've been using it a lot for vaguely science related videos. Seems to fit

  • @ShadowSneak.
    @ShadowSneak. 3 роки тому +4

    The baseball clip made me flinch lol
    Awsome video tho, i would love to see more in the future :)

  • @bloodydoll5897
    @bloodydoll5897 Рік тому +3

    the new 3ds' eye tracking 3D was such a huge change for me and it made me so happy that I got to actually use the 3D (I like it!). i really like how you explain that, it seems like vanity for most people (and honestly, probably also just a marketting gimmick for the company as well), but for people like me it did change a lot, and i like that!

  • @macaylacayton2915
    @macaylacayton2915 Рік тому +2

    the eye problems point is accurate, i have one weak eye and one good eye and when i was young i had astigstism or however you spell it so i had to get it corrected by wearing an eye patch provided by the eye doc and had to wear it daily on my weak eye because it would bounce around. it was detected because I reported to my parents 'bouncing images' even when the images were still, so they looked at my eyes and noticed something was off, my weak eye was not staying still so we went to the doctor, and started the eye patch treatment. I'm 20 and my weak eye(my left eye) is still a problem from time to time, not that bad considering my right eye is just fine(well right eye has gotten slightly weaker but not too much).

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 Рік тому

    8:10 - Stereograms. A neighbor of mine, took photographs of a freeway, from a airplane when is close to landing, then took two consecutive photos and put them in an old stereo viewer. The 3D effect made the cars on the freeway look like they where floating 100s of feet above the freeway.

  • @angelorf
    @angelorf 2 роки тому +24

    You're missing one important point. In real world vision the distance of an object determines both the difference in angle between the eyes, but also the amount of focus. For objects which are closer the eyes are angled more toward each other, and the lenses of the eyes are more round to get the picture in focus. With a 3DS these two systems have to be decoupled, because your focus is based on the distance to the screen, but the angle between the eyes is determined by the 3D images being shown. When your brain learns to decouple these two systems they might work less well in the real world, meaning that your focus is not in tune with the distance to objects. This might lead to blurred vision or perhaps even to the need of glasses. These problems are even bigger for systems like the 3DS, because at close range the effects of focus and looking direction are more pronounced. I haven't done empirical research, though. I'm not sure at which age these systems are considered fully formed or whether its possible for the brain to decouple these systems. Nevertheless I think it's a big oversight not to mention the relation between focus and vergence.

    • @tomshraderd4915
      @tomshraderd4915 4 місяці тому

      Except this is already mentioned at 21:40.

  • @scraps7624
    @scraps7624 2 роки тому +1

    Dude your channel is a treasure, great work!

  • @liculle
    @liculle 2 роки тому

    bruh you make such good content, I'm glad I found your channel from the Jan Hendrik documentary getting recommended to me

  • @ThePaulineu
    @ThePaulineu 2 роки тому

    Thanks for this! It made perfect sense.

  • @garfled
    @garfled 2 роки тому

    Just discovered your channel and I'm obsessed

  • @tinycatfriend
    @tinycatfriend 2 роки тому +1

    i completely missed out on the 3DS in my childhood bc i have severe nystagmus (eyes shake too much) which leaves me without depth perception. i never thought to get one bc why would i? it's a little sad looking back, especially knowing i could just turn it off! ah well, i ended up buying a 2DS for myself in 2016 so i didn't miss everything of that era. the thing won't turn on anymore and i might just pick up a used one before the eshop closes! gotta catch up on some classics i missed!
    great video btw, you explained things really clearly and it's really entertaining! i've subbed and i'm wishing you the best of luck with the algorithm gods

  • @GloriaTheAnimator
    @GloriaTheAnimator Рік тому +1

    i never got the 3D effect to work for me in cinemas, it was always just blurry and messy, now i know why thank you

  • @PsRohrbaugh
    @PsRohrbaugh Рік тому +1

    5:22 Condolences? My 3rd eye is quite the gift.

  • @av.punk.801
    @av.punk.801 6 місяців тому

    I actually own an old camera designed with 6:39 this concept in mind. In its day, they processed special lenticular sheets but even now, if you still wanna shell out for a lenticular sheet (of admittedly lower quality) or just load em into Krita and make a 3D gif! It's also got 4 lenses and an interesting history

  • @mach6247
    @mach6247 4 роки тому +1

    Really interesting video! Hopefully your channel will grow soon because these are pretty high quality!
    Also, would love to know what music you’re using for this. It sounds very nice!

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  4 роки тому

      The music was a big mix! I used the 3DS eshop theme, friend list theme and Swapnote themes at some points. I used 3 Animal Crossing New Leaf tracks, and 3 Super Mario 3D Land tracks. The odd ones out are a track from VVVVVV (Passion for exploring) and Mutant Mudds (World 1-2). I try to use music from the games I talk about, so in this case all the music was from games that appeared on the 3DS.

  • @vanesslifeygo
    @vanesslifeygo 2 роки тому +5

    never a bad time to learn about real-life physics of games.

  • @HOOTwheelz
    @HOOTwheelz 2 роки тому +1

    saw your jon bois inspired video about the fraudulent researcher, and I'm glad your other videos are just as high quality even if they arent in the same style. but I gotta say, the transition to the title card - starting from a macro shot of a monitor's pixel grid and going into a really wacky, dithered mess until it becomes the title card - was absolutely gorgeous. maybe I feel as such because that mess of dithering in the middle of the transition is directly pandering to my love of the ditherpunk aesthetic (think of a GIFs lossy image quality used with artistic intent rather than a compromise for the sake of file size) but I love it a lot. If you're interested in trying out a new aesthetic for a new video, I recommend playing Critters For Sale to get a good feel for that kind of style. It's a cheap, mildly unsettling game due to its heavy usage of image morphing and that one image modification program that can take an image of a person and stamp a smile on them to create an intentional feeling of uncanniness which is made more uncanny by the ditherpunk style, but the humor within the game also makes it incredibly entertaining and accessible for cowardly idiots like me who can't stand jumpscare-slut horror games but love the unsettling psychological nature of them.
    TL;DR: title card transition make my brain go brrrr good job consider doing it more
    edit: if you *are* interested in making something within the ditherpunk style, I used Davinci Resolve as a video editor and purchased a plugin for Resolve known as Retro Dither, which makes the process of creating dithered gorgeousness as easy as moving sliders and clicking buttons. I used it to create a background video for a chart I made on Clone Hero and in my opinion, it kicks a lot of ass lmao. I believe Retro Dither is also available for Premiere and After Effects, but not Vegas - which I believe is the software you use. that said, I'm sure doing a web search for "dither plugin for Sony Vegas" will pop at least some results.

  • @ThymeWalk
    @ThymeWalk 2 роки тому +6

    I wonder if I have an undiagnosed eye condition. I've never been able to see the 3D effect in movie theaters and I remember not being very fond of the 3DS's 3d either. I can see it but it makes my eyes hurt. I definitely have stereoscopic vision and my depth perception works perfectly fine, in fact I'm pretty good at juggling and catching things. But yeah these 3D effects have never worked for me, I'm not sure why

    • @Hansengineering
      @Hansengineering 2 роки тому +5

      I always thought my new 3ds's 3d effect kinda sucked. It worked, but not terribly great. I had not played it for a while until this week. I now find the 3D effect to be quite seamless. The difference: I got glasses to handle an astigmatism. I still had 20/15 vision even with the fuzz, but especially staring at a computer monitor for 8 hours at a go would be *really* taxing. Glasses fixed that, and let me enjoy the 3D in the 3DS as well.
      Get an eye exam!

  • @serenkeating7672
    @serenkeating7672 2 роки тому +4

    Can confirm that using just one eye impairs your depth perception in a way that significantly impairs your ability to navigate the world. One time I had to take local anaesthetic eyedrops, that also made my iris unable to contact for about a week. To protect my eye, I wore an eyepatch for the week, and you would not believe how much I was bumping into things.

  • @_goopho
    @_goopho 2 роки тому +1

    just discovered this channel, what's up with the 20k sub count?! the Schön scandal series alone is top YT content that begs word-of-mouth virality at the very least... may the algorithm be in your favor, esteemed broccoli

  • @ThePlayingField
    @ThePlayingField 4 роки тому +7

    hell yes new bobbo broccolo

  • @shirncloset2917
    @shirncloset2917 3 роки тому +1

    Great video! This deserves to have more views :))

  • @hicknopunk
    @hicknopunk 7 місяців тому

    I have had depth correcting (a bit) lenses since the 90s. They also fix my double vision. I can see the 3D on the 3DS so much more than how reality looks it is disconcerting to look at pictures i take with it.

  • @MORPHOSYS
    @MORPHOSYS 2 роки тому

    thank you for using news footage from my local fox station because i havent seen those newscasters since i was a middle schooler

  • @FireBirdTheEpic
    @FireBirdTheEpic 2 роки тому

    Love that OC transpo cameo

  • @coldball5578
    @coldball5578 2 роки тому +1

    19:48 bobby confirmed avid unintentional asmr fan 100%

  • @SuperToad128
    @SuperToad128 Рік тому +1

    My dad got it for me at launch. No games until 3D Land and Mario Kart 7 in Nov & Dec respectively. Didn’t care, was just happy to finally play Mario 64 DS with a circle pad.

  • @AlphaOblivion7
    @AlphaOblivion7 2 роки тому

    Awesome video, I remember all this when it was going on

  • @user-cd4bx6uq1y
    @user-cd4bx6uq1y 11 місяців тому +1

    8 months later I'm back to this channel

  • @figeon
    @figeon Рік тому

    6:45 oh cool I never knew you were in Ottawa, I recognize that intersection

  • @horusreloaded6387
    @horusreloaded6387 9 місяців тому +1

    Wait how did this channel. Suddenly went from gaming videos to straight up science documentaries?
    I had hard time with the first video I watched but I respect now(that videos is still too slow at times though)

  • @couchman-sw6jy
    @couchman-sw6jy 2 роки тому +1

    Very awesome explanation of the 3D tech 👍👍

  • @jonahclark7442
    @jonahclark7442 Рік тому

    Beautiful video well done

  • @simongamer987
    @simongamer987 2 роки тому

    So much effort went into this smhh only 75k views. Hope this video grows brother

  • @four-en-tee
    @four-en-tee 11 місяців тому +1

    Its crazy to think that the trajectory of this channel completely changed all because of a video about the 3DS

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  11 місяців тому +3

      I was already kind of moving away from video game stuff honestly. Photonics was the topic of my master's, and I had just had a 2nd professor bring up Hendrik Schon by the time this was released. My interest in that story and the fact there was no good video online about it is what changed things

  • @AndrewClark5
    @AndrewClark5 2 роки тому +1

    I remember as a kid being pissed that my brand new 3DS was broken and the so-called “3D” mode only made the top screen unusably blurry.
    Turns out my eyes are just misaligned and not even my nuclear-strength glasses prescription could make the 3DS work for me

  • @palmermoynihan2628
    @palmermoynihan2628 3 роки тому +14

    The "New" 3DS XL is my favorite nintendo console for a multitude of reasons. One of them being the 3d itself. I think it adds so much to games that utilize it properly. I just finished Kirby Tripple Deluxe and that games uses the 3d just how I feel it should. It makes the game pop just a bit more than it would if it was off. It adds a depth to it the game lacks without the 3d. I will say the "New" 3DS makes seing the 3d easier to me. I really wish nintendo and othet company's really went all out with the 3d on the conole and used it to its best advantage. Imagine if companies and especially Nintendo had kept trying harder with the 3d effect to really get it down in games. Games on the 3DS dont look right unless they are in 3d to me. Sadly there are some games like Pokemon Sun and Moon that dont even have the ability to use the 3d and that really sucks.

  • @VillainMommy
    @VillainMommy 6 місяців тому

    i KNEW i was recognizing VVVVVV music thank you for putting that confirmation in the description i was going crazy for like 9 seconds there

  • @Xhadp
    @Xhadp 2 роки тому +2

    Yeah I remember the 3DS launch. Now how many people remember the Pokemon Black / White Launch? The pokemon game got so much terrible flack yet no one apparently remembers it nowadays and just says yeah pokemon black got terrible advice at launch but it is awesome now! That I genuinely wonder how many people will even go into detail about why the games got so much flack at launch.

  • @johnpaulyoshida5690
    @johnpaulyoshida5690 2 роки тому +2

    I don't use 3d (often) because I play usually laying down or at odd angles. I turn of 3d occasionally (usually during cutscenes) when it is convenient to do so. As such if I am playing the game I usually have it off

  • @jlbeeen
    @jlbeeen 2 роки тому +1

    I miss the 3D for one thing mostly, and that's catching things in Animal Crossing. It was so much easier to tell where the butterflies were when 3D was on, and I do miss that on the Switch, and some of the games worked really well with it, but I feel like I'm one of the few who misses that fad of 3D. My depth perception just isn't great without 3D effects.
    I remember LG made a 3D phone with the same idea, with parallax and the dual camera system. I'm glad I waited until the 3DS XL to get mine (they had dropped the price and had good games out). My dad also had one of those Panasonic TVs with the flicker thing, but I'm so glad 3D TVs now use the polarized glasses as the flickering causes headaches. I didn't have issues with the 3DS unless it was for over a long time, and yeah, the New 3DS XL was so much easier, unless you were playing in low light and it couldn't find your face.

  • @dexo2727
    @dexo2727 Рік тому

    I remember this, completely forgot until I seen the thumbnail. Still never got one in the end

  • @BluJFPV
    @BluJFPV 4 місяці тому

    I remember picking up my 3DS a few days before the official price drop date. Walmart lowered the price a few days early, so I got the discount and the free games.

  • @Ramy9619
    @Ramy9619 2 роки тому

    Thank you for the great video

  • @lorenzo8755
    @lorenzo8755 Рік тому +1

    wait, i remember having problem watching the 3d in my 3ds ... guess I should get that checked

  • @Heayn
    @Heayn 4 роки тому +3

    i wish i had a liquid crystal fence

    • @DaddyPoobs
      @DaddyPoobs 4 роки тому

      It'll keep those darn kids of your lawn.

  • @Dave-hp4vh
    @Dave-hp4vh 2 роки тому +11

    this is really interesting; I find the 3D effect relatively unpleasant, enough so that I never play games with any degree of 3D enabled, except for when I first got the console, for the novelty of it; I found it distracting and disorienting, and a bit unpleasant; wonder if I should get my eyes checked now, lol.

    • @BobbyBroccoli
      @BobbyBroccoli  2 роки тому +4

      Well the good news is if you do find something wrong this might be the only place it matters!

    • @AleksandarBell
      @AleksandarBell 2 роки тому +2

      I’ve always had bad vision and since I grew up in the early 2000’s, with 3D being such a fad, a lot of these effects were ruined for me because you had to be looking at them from a distance, like movies. (3D glasses and normal glasses are hard to combine lol) The 3D function on the 3Ds always bothered me too, so I don’t know if it’s a 3D thing or a bad vision thing.

  • @Nianfur
    @Nianfur 2 роки тому +3

    Then they released the 'New' models, and the 3D became a truly outstanding feature that should always be turned on.