Black Soldiers Were the Real Heroes at San Juan Hill. And They Got No Credit.
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- Опубліковано 7 лип 2024
- President Theodore Roosevelt and his 'rough riders' are remembered as heroes of the Spanish-American war-a "total fabrication" according to Jerry Tuccille, author of the recent book, The Roughest Riders: The Untold Story of the Black Soldiers in the Spanish-American War.
Tuccille says that black troops, also known as 'buffalo soldiers', did the heavy fighting at the infamous Battle of San Juan Hill, but racism and Roosevelt's giant ego led them to be left out of the official story.
"America loved [black troops] when they were war fodder," but later "white people [feared] and resented them," says Tuccille, who has also written books about the libertarianism, and published the very first biography of Donald Trump.
Tuccille sat down with Reason TV's Nick Gillespie to discuss the "buffalo soldiers," Roosevelt's big cover up, and the legacy of racism in the military.
About 13 minutes.
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I say it's about time for Hollywood to stop feeding us these negative black slavery movies and instead give us the stories that show that black Americans have sacrificed and given far more to this country than their slave labor. Mr. Tuccille's story of the Buffalo soldiers in the Spanish-American war would be a great place to start.Spike Lee, Oprah: get it done! There is much work to do in this area!
Watch glory or Tuskegee airmen
I have been telling people to research for yrs. that a black regiment took it, but they insist Teddy did.
That ain't gonna happen
@@emelen123jamesula2 of course that was gonna happen
Not negative just the reality and the dark history of this country but yes this should make a movie about buffalo soldiers in the Spanish American war
Buffalo Soldiers deserves all the credit they deserve for their service. Their story got buried just like black soldiers in the Civil War did.
Facts!! That's our Confederate flag.. #giveusourflagback
"Their service"? You mean participating in the native american genocide just like whites? The fact that both whites and blacks shamelessly celebrate the genocide of the race that inhabited this continent first is truly sickening.
XenoKing _27 I was talking about San Juan Hill. The video was about San Juan Hill not the Indian Wars. I don’t celebrate the Indian Wars.... in fact its something that generally gets swept under the rug because it’s something Americans of today really don’t like to talk about unless we are pissed at our government. Of course it was genocide. It’s the only thing Hitler admired about the United States which is a national embarrassment.
XenoKing _27 and by the way the Indian Wars should be taught as a lesson of why we should NEVER do things like that again because people can live together without butchering one another not as justification for future race wars!
@@xenoking_2777 Oh well!
It should be also known that these were elite troops. 10th Cavalry were special forces. Their White officers in many cases abandoned them and the African-Americans non com led the troops.
Complete fiction. The colored troops were undisciplined and unreliable. No matter how much you try and change historical facts the truth remains the same.
@@shaggys100 prove it
George Lincoln Prove it so I won’t have to assume you’re just racist. Why would undisciplined troops be praised in a time where racism exists and why would undisciplined troops be put into war? Why would they even want to be soldiers if they weren’t going to prepare?
@Floyd Vaughn Brotha do you actually think that bully would let you know your true potential. Look up Wallace Idaho and the buffalo soldiers.
@Ed Judd same to you..
Read a book like John Astor The Right to Fight. It ignorant jerks like you cause the problems.
Hollywood should create a movie about the buffalo soldiers and bring to light the wrongs committed against these courageous men in the past.
Mister Shawn There is a good movie named “Glory” about a black civil war regiment. There is also a movie titled, “Buffalo Soldiers” about black soldiers in the Indian Wars. In January 2020 the first US an navy carrier not named after a US President was named after Doris Miller a black Navy Cross recipient. There was a black soldier that was a recipient of the Medal of Honor he charged on Fort Wagner and even though seriously wounded he held up the American flag until he was finally rescued and taken to the rear. There are plenty of black hero’s out there and there stories. You just need to look for them.
Sorry guys but the story of the "Buffalo Soldiers" in the American West is a tale of butchery against American Indians that is so horrific as to defy imagination. Those troops were responsible for atrocities that just don't fit the eternal victims narrative of today. Educate yourself.
A movie about the Harlem Hellfighters In WW1 would be so cool
You can't rely on Hollywood to do it right without pushing a liberal agenda. The truth has never really been their interest
@@shaggys100 I think that's the tale of both white and black soldiers in the Indian Wars.
As an up-date . A statue of a Buffalo Soldier on his horse, holding his guide-arm stands on the training field of West Point Military Academy. The training field is also named Buffalo Soldier field, Dedicated to the Buffalo Soldiers who trained cadets in horsemanship and how to fight on horse back. They were considered the best horseman in the U. S. Army.
Got a copy of Under fire with the tenth US calvary that proves the tenth were the first up the hill so Roosevelt got the medal of honor for giving a good interview.
*how roosevelts keep turning sheep into willing disposable sheeps"
Scumbag talking about twisted pride when he deliberately suppressed the heroics of Buffalo Soldiers, all so he could prop himself up as the savior of the day. What a piece of racist shit. Definition of a toxic leader
And everyone who knows basic American history UNTIL you mention the black american soliders than that goes out the window
Another "dirty secret" of this campaign is that far more troops died of disease in the staging areas in Florida than in battles in the Caribbean.
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That's not really a "dirty secret." The 19th Century was full of pandemics, among soldiers and civilians. Most soldiers in 19th Centrury wars died from disease than from combat.
That was very normal in warfare throughout history. Its a relatively recent phenomenon where diseases only kill a miniscule amount of soldiers
The comments on this video really lets you know how much further we have to go, black folks can't even get our stories of yesteryear told without people getting upset. If it wasn't for people like these gentlemen telling these story's some folks would have never known about black folks in the wars in the beginnings of America. Thank for telling these stories
@mjnari022, you are absolutely correct, i notice this also. every time there is something historical dealing with "black" Americans it does seem the but hurt white boys come out in droves and make snide remarks and insult.
@Xastur Speaks i dont assume i know, there is a huge difference, you act as if this is my first rodeo here in america. why would African Americans make racist remarks about black soldiers?
You know white Americans the most rascist people in history!! What do you expect from them!! They never want to tell how America got rich off the free labor of blacks!! Blacks been right there with the white people in the beginning and history of this country!! The white Americans didn’t want us to fight because they knew they would’ve been upstaged!!
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I noticed it too, and they always hide their faces and identities. Real ass whites.
Rough Riders got the credit because TR was running for President. He also preserved his image and also got hammered by racists when he invited Booker T. Washington to the White House. Remember he was a politician.
False... The regulars (professionals) members of the 10th infantry got tremendous credit in taking San Juan Hill. It just so happens that the volunteers (also called the rough riders) share in that credit because they also assisted in taking San Juan Hill. The rough riders took Kettle Hill first which was providing San Juan Hill with fire cover and support. Then once the rough riders took Kettle Hill they assisted in taking San Juan Hill by taking the right side. The 10th infantry took the left side of the charge.
@@charlestdennis2797 Not correct U.S. Military records and diaries are where this author found out what really happened. The Rough Riders got decimated just as this author is saying in the video
@Frederick Wells You kidding me? This was NOT about race. This was about people from the military going into town and RANDOMLY SHOOTING INNOCENT CIVILIANS. The regiment did not cooperate with the investigation and dishonorably discharged. Was this harsh? Maybe. But STOP crying victim over "racism" when the incident was justified.
@Frederick Wells Do you know why they were loyal to Roosevelt? Because his FIRST ACT AS PRESIDENT was to invite Booker T Washington to the white house and discuss how to better blacks in the south with government appointments by blacks & sympathetic whites who wouldn't spark race outrage. He REPEATEDLY denounced lynching. He believed that blacks that bettered themselves and were on equal footing to whites deserved all the rewards of whites.
Equal treatment of blacks means equal treatment. His entire career was moralist. That means an equal kind of punishment for a reprehensible act as would be given a company of whites.
Stop peddling your anti-white racism!!!
@Frederick Wells You're the one whose re-writing history and I don't need to feel one ounce of guilt over anything. You obviously don't understand history. What you're calling for is nothing more than moralistic virtue signaling bound to cause nothing more than race riots & violence while in the end, doing NOTHING for the blacks that all this preaching is supposed to help.
Teddy worked quietly and behind the scenes with Booker T Washington to hire people to government posts who were pro-black. It was done QUIETLY for a reason and since you call it nothing, you obviously don't understand the times Teddy was living in.
BUFFALO SOLDIERS- They were the first Special Forces in the U.S. military real heroes
The AI is mess up my texts
Wow! Just wow! Thank you sir for shining the light on the Black contributions to this country. God bless you! I
Black troops fought and died valiantly in all the wars this country has been engaged in. Thanks to all no matter what race or creed who answered the nation's call to duty past and present. And to all who sacrificed thier lives! We are not perfect but this is the only country I know. From a proud Vietnam era Vet! and proud American Legionnaire! 🙂👍👏 Be safe everybody!🙏
You knew an American who joined the French Foreign Legion?
Black units actually had quite bad performance in ww2
@@MishimasGhost The black Panthers 761st tank Battalion fought with Lt. Gen George Patton at his request. They saw action at the battle of the Bulge and other battles with honor. Black troops fought as combat soldiers on the beaches of Normandy with the 1st infantry division. Not to mention the heroism of Dorie Miller at Pearl Harbor. Just last week I personally attended a ceremony honoring PO 1st class Charles French who rescued 15 of his shipmates when thier ship was sunk by the Japanese.towing them with a raft for 6 to 8hrs in shark infested waters. I wouldn't call that a poor performance.Can't forget about the Tuskegee Airmen white pilots requested them to escort their bombers. The famed Red Ball Express supply truck convoys kept the allies supplied all through Europe during the war. My point is that different races and creeds in a collective effort helped the greatest generation win the war. Have a nice day sir. Be safe!🙏
@@MishimasGhost which black units had a bad performance and why do you think they had quite bad performance in WWII?
@@rudolphwatson1737DesertCarcass says they actually had bad performances curious to know how and why myself actually.
BLESS THIS MAN FOR SEEKING THE TRUTH...
Why hasn't anyone brought up the fact that Bob Marley wrote a song about these dudes? Bob is never wrong in his lyrical retelling of the history of the "buffalo soldier". You know they came all the way from Africa!!!
Cory Beatbox because it's all a fairy tale and fake like the weave he wore and accent he tried to use
✊🏾Yes he did write the song. There's a museum in Houston Texas honoring these soldier's. When I was a child like 39 years ago I marched in parades with some of them and reenacters. It was cool to see them on their horse's riding in the parades during Thanksgiving, MLK parades etc....
Yep, the Buffalo Soldiers wiped out plenty of defenseless Indian villages during their time. Their history in the American West is one of mayhem and murder on a grand scale. Something to be ashamed of.
@@tray-oq1nj You're spiced headed nut case, lack of facts and understanding... Accusing Bob Marley of Lies etc. Goes to show your infectious disease mind...
You're worst than the "retracted" dragon of yourself..
Ok Swine Hound... Explain where R.N.Marley, was false in that song.
Vile & bitter toxic " boy " explain yourself... Pigs knows all..
Now The Nèir were stolen from Africa to American soil... Fighting for Uncle Sam... Sending Zwart to battlefields against the Indigenous people.= total shame ... ( I'm not going to give you a historic " sense " history lessons). As usual a waste of time; for ignorant peoples.
Stop eating and drinking waters of lies ; turn away from the garbages and please seek knowledge.. (250920)
The Persuasions also recorded a Song entitled Buffalo Soldiers. The hip hop Artist D-Nice did a 1992 rap song Buffalo Soldiers for the McDonald's Black History Cassette tape.
"My bullshit antenna started to quiver " lol
I'm glad that buffalo/black soldiers are getting more credit but , let's start making more movies about them to not only give them real credit but so people around the world would learn about them as well. If something is to be done, do it right.
They were also called "Smoked Yankees" by the Spanish.
Want proof racism still exists. Just read some of the negative comments about this book. Instead of positive comments thanking this author for an excellent book, people on this page want to criticize him because he dared to tell the truth about the brave black soldiers who sacrificed for a country that treated them like crap.
mahasaesq The United States is racist as fuck! White people can’t stand the truth! It’s mind blowing that people can’t handy the truth?
Because the book is ridiculous and fictional. Colored troops were best at running away. No amount of revisionism will change that fact. It was too well documented at the time.
@@shaggys100 It hurts when the truth comes out but you can't handle to truth😂😂😂😂.
@Fedup Withsoceity No, you just hate because you are a scary ass punk.
@@shaggys100 Sounds very white of you
The name giving to the buffalo soldiers was a name giving to them by the First Nation tribes they fought as a honour.
The Buffalo Soldiers almost always did welling battle-and then got back-of-the-handslapstothe face when they got home!
Charles Chapman well in the Philippines they did Amor of fighting and got a good amount of credit. But honestly the reason they didn't get the sole credit for Cuba, is because there were only two units of colored soldiers and about 8 units comprised of whites. To believe what this man is saying is about the same thing as believing Obama killed Adolf hitler.
@@64gaelan that a bunch of guys on horse took those hills is fantasy. You see how TR changed his story when he wanted to run for office.
@@hillsane9262 The cavalry units served dismounted in Cuba, as they did in WwII in the Pacific. Lt. Parker purchased mules while in Cuba to move his Gatlings. Roosevelt as Lt Colonel brought two horses, and IIRC, one died before he could use them.
@A Dark History EXACTLY and that's some sad shit hating that's all it is lol
The book is pure nonsense. The colored troops were an embarrassment.
As usual African American troops were never appreciated or given any credit for their efforts or contributions, African Americans in general were rejected and socially excluded by US society.
These soldiers derserve long overdue recognition.
I had read similar accounts of what happened to the Rough Riders, they played a small part in the Spanish-American War. I remember that Roosevelt was assigned to a different hill, not any of the major hills that had to be taken from the Spanish. The US had inferior weapons to the Smokeless German made Mausers the Spanish were using. I will have to pick up a copy of this author's book.
I served in the US Army at the tail end of the Vietnam War and we were fully integrated.
A very small part. But the lies have covered up the truth.
Of course they wouldn't risk Roosevelt's life by putting him in the thickest parts of combat. The fact that people believed his lies is laughable all by itself. My own history teacher said Roosevelt was a huge liar, who took the lion's share of glory, when it was the Buffalo soldiers that did most of the fighting. And my teacher could be a huge racist at times. He'd skip over the sections in our history book that talked about blacks.
But at least he gave those Buffalo soldiers the credit they were due.
Thank you Jerry Tuccille for bringing this aspect of historical racism to the forefront. There is a street named after a Black Private John Dodson in the Base family housing area of Fort Huachuca, AZ. He died valiantly on one of the hills in Cuba. Disgraceful how TR changed his views as his political terrain changed.
Thank you for this from a son of a Montford Point Marine.
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So the buffalo soldiers who were up kettle hill were able to easily defeat the Spanish soldiers due to their military prowess while Teddy roosevelt and the rough riders who were up the San Juan hill and were getting wiped out as they charged the Spanish soldiers due to the fact that the Spanish soldiers were more heavily armed than them and Roosevelt struggled which is why he lost control of his horse and fell off as he Attempted rush up San Juan Hill and only got up the hill when the war was over. (When the buffalo soldiers got up the Hill)
Dudo que fuese fácilmente viendo el resultado de muertos en ambas partes ¡esto no es hollywood!
They tried that in PR. Took less than half of the island only. Last 3 battles they retreaded and waited. Then waited for Spain to sell PR to USA. They had a naval blockade too depleting the PR's munitions for months. Finally Spain sold PR to USA. No US Airforce in 1898.
Racial parity has not been reached in the military. Take a look at the senior leadership of the services and you will see the truth.
Devin Salmon point proven
I feel if the goal is "parity" then all the gains that have been made are for nothing.
What the African American or Black culture (which ever you prefer)must realize is you cannot expect your enemy or former slave master`s to tell your history accurately or honestly it takes away from their dishonest narrative,we as a culture must seek out the true knowledge of our own history and begin to tell our stories so our children will know the true greatness they come from and not listen to the lies taught by their enemy!
My great grandfather was in the Spanish American war but not sure where he served. He wasnt a Buffalo soldier . But thier story is amazing.
This was very enlightening to me. I always thought San Juan Hill was in Puerto Rico and now I understand Bob Marly a little better.
Psalms 101:5 - Whoso privily slandereth his neighbour, him will I cut off: him that hath an high look and a proud heart will not I suffer. APTTMH YAHUAH!
Obadiah 1:10
[10]For thy violence against thy brother Jacob (Isreal) shame shall cover thee, and thou shalt be cut off for ever.
As a history grad student with a MA I hate these pop-historians written books on history. They always use terms like "Unknown story" and such things on topics where there are literally dozens of books, some over 30 years old on.
I mean every single class on military history in the last 40 years had taught this about the Rough Riders. There are at least half-a-dozen books in my colleges library on the black troops of San Juan Hill alone and every book on American Military History going back to Russel Wiegley's classic from the 1970's has mentioned this.
Stop re-writing old and well done topics and try taking credit for it when you did no original research just to sell books. This is why the professional history world hates most of these types of people (Ian Kershaw and a few other do follow academic standards and don't try passing off well written topics as their own work as if they are breaking something new).
While some of his other books are great, but Reason should not promote this book until he changes the title and admits that all he did was just a rehash of what a lot of other people have already done and gives them the proper credit
+Michael Cohen popular books about history are primarily about entertainment, not just raw facts, no one is going to read those dusty old books at your college, this book is for ordinary people.
Reason is promoting it because of his Trump book
+Michael Cohen Why is it wrong for someone to write a book that's more approachable by the lay audience ? If anything academia needs more books like these .
+Michael Cohen Why is it wrong for someone to write a book that's more approachable by the lay audience ? If anything academia needs more books like these .
xFIRSTx I know that, but there are other pop books on the topic too. My main problem was him trying to take credit for "discovering something" that is well published upon and then trying to take credit for it. I have no problem with pop books, I just want them to be honest about it
JUST AS ALWAYS...THE TRUE AMERICANS THAT FOUGHT FOR FREEDOM...TRUE FREEDOM,FROM THE HYPOCRITES,NEVER GET THE RECOGNITION DESERVED-
@J I They could ONLY fight for the French,and in French uniforms in ww1.President Jackson promised freedom to the slaves that helped fight off the English during the Battle of New Orleans in the war of 1812,only to turn around and put them back into slavery after victory.What about ww2?You ever heard of Tuskegee Airmen?Buffalo Soldiers in the sky.NEVER lost a bomber that they protected.And the 761st Tankers? Or the Red Ball express? Truman desegregated the armed forces in 1947.You ever heard of the ALL Blacks parachute unit,the 555th,(triple-nickels),during the Korean WAR???-Not one washed out!-How about the ALL Black Ranger unit in Vietnam?If it was up to American history books ALL people would know anything about Afro-Americans would be slavery and we shall overcome.Well.WE ARE overcoming,NOW a new page in history is being written.Do your homework.
@J I I respect your comments,and I will NOT get on here talking like so many do(unfortunately),but,it's impossible for me or ANYONE for that matter to change what true history is.All one needs to do is,alter your source of history seeking.Those who write history are most likely to tell ONLY what they want the masses to know.The minister of proganda of Fascist Germany once said;"if I told them to jump out of a window,they would do it".-If people were to believe that The Great Hannibal Lector,was European,from watching cable t.v. You are very mislead.He was a Black African Man whose tactics are to this day,still being taught in the United States Army war college in Carlisle,Pa.He took on the greatest army at the time from,European soil Romans.With elephants.Elephants do not come from Europe.I am a disabled veteran.And very much,one who studies history.Carthage is the ancient name for Tunisia.AFRICA.The first death recorded in the beginning of the war of independence,was a Black man.CrispusAttucks.-There's an old saying in Black Americans culture.Free your mind and your ass will follow-
@J I One can lead a horse to water,,,,but STILL not make them drink,even though,THEY,DON'T know,that the well,and wealth of knowledge,of which they truly seek,is,tainted-
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The heroes were the Spaniards who were only 500 against 12,000 Cubans and Americans. And still suffered lower than the Spanish ....
Thank you Mr. Tuccille. I love my people. God bless America
This is a very interesting story. I've always heard the nomenclature"Buffalo Soldiers", but never knew the context until now. Black History must be taught in our public schools. I believe that America would become a better country if this knowledge was learned during our youth!
@@samuellp1146 It’s says STOLEN from Africa & brought to America
@@karaghanascythianslayer3822 thank you I am yanking this crap
@@samuellp1146 No it says what you said as well.
@@karaghanascythianslayer3822 thanks looked at the lyrics to confirm but thanks anyway.
I graduated high school in 1974 and one of my classes was Black History and Society. I found it to be more interesting than the regular History class I had taken.
You talk about the American not giving blacks credit for fighting in wars where there were whites but in my tour in Vietnam I remember the local Vietnamese talking about garrison of black legionnaire troops in that war, I find it sad that history has for some reason negated the courage of men regardless if color or nationality brave men are brave men regardless fortunately today our military recognize it.
Black soldiers were only in the Battle of San Juan Hill. They were also involved in trying to capture Pancho Villa in Mexico.
Yea and they got their asses kicked
Pancho Villa was a brilliant leader
His name provoked fear in all his enemies
174 casualties and 24 captured buffalo soldiers
They barely lasted a year lol
@Lucifer S. Yes that is why Latinos
Mexicans are set to be majority population soon
John Polk is rolling in his grave
In America you cannot be a hero and Black.
If I recall correctly, TR was very impressed with the actions of the 10th Cavalry at San Juan Hill. And every book and article I've read credits the 10th Cavalry the same as the Rough Riders for their parts in securing the Santiago Heights.
I happen to recall reading that when TR stood and yelled, "Follow me!", the only troops who followed were his Rough Riders and the 10th Cavalry.
This author is telling the story correctly as per the US military records, the memoirs of the higher-level officers, and diaries of the troops that fought in those battles. Note most of the rough riders died pretty early as they were not professionally trained soldiers and were seeking glory. There is a film of TR trying to recreate the "charge up San Juan Hill on horseback and because of the terrain, there is no way they could do that even without anyone shooting at them with superior weapons. Most US troops were armed with the antiquated Trapdoor Springfield, the lucky ones were armed with the .30-40 Krag-Jørgensen rifle.
@@Deereevangelist I haven't read The Roughest Riders but when I do, it will do little to change my mind. Both "Rough Riders: Theodore Roosevelt, his Cowboy Regiment, and the Immortal Charge up San Juan Hill" by Mark Lee Gardner and "The War Lovers" by Evan Thomas are written with the firsthand sources and post-war documents but they both support the correct version of events, with only minor deviations. That version of events being, the Rough Riders surged forward (as TR was the only one who had received orders to attack), with the other Regiments following. At some point, the units intermingled due to casualties among officers and men and TR was the man leading them forward, atop Little Texas, although about halfway up, he dismounted. Some soldiers may have reached the top of Kettle Hill first and guidons planted but no one, including TR himself has ever come to a definitive conclusion of who that was. In the event, it didn't matter, the battle was raging, men were dying and San Juan Hill itself was being assaulted by the infantry. The claim of "higher level officers" giving their input can immediately be discarded. The only officers who outranked TR weren't at Kettle Hill, they were either at San Juan or miles away.
Although TR later changed his opinion on the 10th Cavalry, there can be no question that he respected and trusted them. It seems that most of the white soldiers respected them and a few shared their canteens, with the lack of water available, I'd say that's a more than sufficient praise.
The Rough Riders weren't professional soldiers, no. But they were just as good as any regular cavalry regiment, a fact often repeated by even those outside the Regiment. The reason they took heavier casualties was because they were the first to engage the enemy in both of the battles they participated in and made a frontal assault against heavily fortified prepared positions. The claim of "they all died early on" is patently false as "early on" would either mean the Battle of Las Guasimas (which totaled 8 Rough Riders killed) or the early stage of the assault on Kettle, neither of which are supported by either iteration of "The Rough Riders" or "The War Lovers". In addition, the false assumption of "they were only in it for the glory" would apply to the vast majority of US servicemen at the time, both regular and volunteer as there was no conscription. Every man in uniform was what we'd call today, a "volunteer".
Neither TR nor his Regiment spent the entire battle of the San Juan Heights on horseback so whether he could do it on camera or not is irrelevant.
Finally, although most of the US volunteers were armed with the older Springfield rifles, every man in the cavalry division (save for one), regular or volunteer was armed with a Krag. It should also be noted that only in terms of reloading was the Mauser superior, in all other aspects, the rifles are tied for performance. The Spanish artillery was decidedly superior but once the US troops began their assaults on the Heights, that advantage seems to have disappeared. Finally, the Maxim machine guns of the Spanish were only used at Las Guasimas and were still overcome by the cavalry and infantry. After that battle, they seem to have disappeared as they were not used again.
So, I'm sorry but the majority of your statement is incorrect.
Years later Teddy Roosevelt literally said the Black soldiers were shirkers and performed cowardly. When he gave them their credit he got chewed out for it and went back on everything he said.
@@wayne47able all I've read about is TR mistakenly accusing two Buffalo soldiers of desertion (they weren't deserting and they had orders to get supplies but TR didn't know or ask), which he wrote about but then removed from his book.
@@BeefyRider he removed it and then later said they were cowards. I like Teddy but he was a man of his time. He was very racially progressive but also succumbed to public pressure when whites felt like he was being too fond with Black people
Tf i learned about this in school? Black soldiers are all throughout history
I grew up in southern Arizona, the buffalo soldier are held in the highest regard. The history of buffalo soldier is a proud one. They lead the way to surrender of Geronimo, they were the spearhead in pushing Pancho Villa out southern NM and Arizona.
So true!
There is a wonderful museum at Fort Huachuca near Sierra Vista. It pays a wonderful tribute to the proud history of the men of 10th Calvary and the contribution they made to America. True warriors and patriots.
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Thank you for posting this , a relative of mine would get angry hearing about Teddy taking the hill.
God bless the 200,000 United States Colored Troops who fought to end African American slavery during the Civil War and their service to the USA armed forces ever since. Real American heroes.
This is A American story 🇺🇸. Black American contribution goes unmatched .Blacks and Whites together.
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Right Blacks been right there when America wasn’t strong and wasn’t that rich!! When it was just basically White people and black people in the country!! America got super rich off the sell of cotton around the world off the back of blacks who got none of the benefits!!
Um, what about the Native Americans who were also there???
Everything isn't just black and white, there's other colors. Native Americans are red...
+traviswall1982 Racist.
I do hate mosquitoes and mosquitoes are another race....
+traviswall1982
Black activists see themselves as the only minority. Sad but true.
+Nunya Biznes I know, and it hurts knowing I'm a Native American who's people have gone through more, but we don't keep ourselves down.
Blacks people have so much potential, but so many "leaders" in their community want to keep them in strife. :-(
+Nunya Biznes Black activist concentrate on issues affecting Black people, well because their "Black activists". The issues they fight for help all minorities and lower class in the long run. Usually more than it helps Blacks. And American society and the media acts like everything is either Black or White.
Black troops were everywhere and made their contributions during the Spanish American War. They did a good job. Let's can this anti American revision.
Look out everyone a Triggered racist make room for the triggered racist people!
All the parts of America where there that day. The Rough Riders had cowboys, hispanics, whites, natives, and a few city boys. They fought alongside the 10th, the Buffalo Soldiers (who were black) under Pershing, who would later go on to be our primary general in WW1. Similar to the Alamo, this was one of those great battles were the melting pot was on full display. Men from all over America, with different backgrounds and ethnicities fighting side by side for America.
John Pershing, who served as a 1st Lieutenant in the Spanish-American War, was just one of the junior officers in the 10th US Cavalry at San Juan Hill. He didn't command the whole unit.
"Real heroes" Anytime I see that my bullshit antenna goes off Mr. Tuccille.
@Sonnyburnett..I know, right ? LMAO
The book is currently on sale on Amazon for $15.07 and normally sells for $26.95 in hardback.
The New movie Devotion which is about the first Black Naval Aviator Jesse Brown is a good example of what black people could do and how hard they had to fight back then to even get a chance to prove them selves.
What? 9th and 10th colored troops led by Jack Pershing. Sorry you didn't know about it. Read a book!
The Rough Riders were decimated and we give them no glory for giving it all? It is true that the Black soldiers known to the army as "Immunes" fought superbly and deserve more credit. Teddy was lucky to have made it out. The Spanish numbered about 750-1000 on the hill and they were armed with fast loading Mauser rifles which gave them a tactical edge. A battery of Gatling Guns made a big difference as well. Technology was a big factor in this war.
The USA has NEVER ACTUALLY ACKNOWLEDGED MOST OF THE ACHIEVEMENTS THAT MADE THIS COUNTRY , NOR WANTS TO DEAL WITH " REPARATIONS " WHICH IS " THE JUST DUE" FOR BUILDING AND PROTECTING THIS NATION. 🤨
The buffalo soldiers were put in a rock in a hard place. I understand that they needed money and had to eat but they had to go against the natives..smh
Thx you all for providing with a look into my history
5:02 wikipedia says that the SPanish had bolt action 5-shot rifles, and the main white forces had similar new rifles, and the Colored troops had 1873 Springfield rifles - the same single shot breech-loading rifles used in the Battle of the Little Bighorn 22 years earlier. It was a still-legit weapon but was outclassed by 1890. Odd how front line infantry would be issued less-effective guns. Still, the Buffalo soldiers still contributed to the victory.
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I'm pretty sure they played a huge role in the TNT Series Rough Riders. Also General Pershing's Buffalo soldier's performance sky rocketed his career so in the US Army they DEFINITELY were given credit, maybe not politically because Roosevelt a major public figure commanded the Rough Riders.
Same in WWII the black infentry,navy and air force are the one that defeated the Germans,the Germans were so impressed that later on they allowed the black infantry to use their women to relax them.
"buffalo boy's won't you come out tonight......" wonder if that song was inspired from the soldiers?
Bob Marley. Buffalo Soldiers
Buffalo Gals won't you come out tonight.....refers to Buffalo, NY canal district ...
@@sondrajean955 thank you
If you watch the TV special rough riders they cover this.
HOw much? 2 min? Does this "special" diminish the role of the Buffalo Soldiers?
521 vs 8.412 and 0 machine guns vs 4 gattlings....so it is clear who were the heroes.... who fought 1 to 16
While i do agree that the Black soldiers get little attention for their effots in the spanish american war, i think the historian is too over the top in his revisionism, to the point that he was kinda anti-roosevelt and anti-white. Here are some innacuracies from his discussion that i would like to point out:
1. The rough riders never fell into a trap in las guasimas. In fact, they were the ones who suprised the spaniards and shot first. The buffalo soldiers also didnt “rescue” them, since by the time they arrived the rough riders have already pushed the spaniards back to their second trench and linked with the regulars. Roosevelt also didnt lose “many men” at that time. Hell there were overall 27 american deaths from the whole army in that one battle”.
2. Both Blacks and the Rough Riders were harassed during the battle of san juan hill, not just teddy roosevelt’s men. While i agree that the first to reach the hill was one Sgt George Berry of the 10th Cavalry, the fighting didnt just ended when the blacks got there first. When the Rough riders reached the hill, the fighting was still ongoing on. And their arrival actually helped the Blacks to finally take much of the Spanish positions atop of the hill.
3. This idiot historian claims that the blacks shiuld be given the sole recognition of taking san juan hill without even considering that they wouldnt even be there without Lt. John Parker’s gatling guns. Hell the machine guns from them actually saved these black soldiers lives. So again, BOTH BLACKS AND WHITES did their part in that battle.
4. Also he praised the blacks but didnt even mentioned or recognized the native americans. FUCKING UNBELIEVABLE.
The role of the Buffalo Soldiers in this conflict has been well documented in US military history. Are you doubting this, or, is it that you have a problem with the author?
If you think a group of people are genetically superior (lets call it what it is). PHYSICALLY, with added seasoning had to fight for their respect as a MAN and their FREEDOM on and SHELTER! Goes in FIRST when the guns get to blazing WITHOUT the proper equipment or guns or TRAINING. America was LOSING WARS until they let black americans fight. IT IS WHAT IT IS
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RIP to my family n them that lost they land and life in that war !
Were there any heroes at San Juan Hill?
SouthernInquirer55 hero's only exist in the minds of the weak
Southern...lmao...we as blk people already knew the truth...Old Teddy gave them credit n then back stabbed them when running for office...But that's the same old game plan, played by america... White America does not know it's TRUE history, because u have been lied to in thinking that white men has done everything..The buffalo soldiers were seasoned fighting veterans, so we know that teddy was lying..But hey southern, do ur own research on the buffalo soldiers n you will know what they did for America.
@@Jim-wd8ll The Buffalo Soldiers were excellent soldiers. I think everyone can see that if Black Soldiers were in fact the toughest guys in that battle, it would have more quickly challenged the Jim Crow system. I think all Americans need to look at things that happened in American history and have an honest examination of what happened in the past and how Black American servicemen's contributions have been neglected and not told in the broader American Historical narratives.
@@Jim-wd8ll Sad to say that you are the real racist if all you see is color of skin. It only took the deaths of over 550,000 Union and Confederate soldiers which were by the way overwhelmingly white to abolish the scourge of slavery. It took the death of one white man John F Kennedy and his staunch determination to write and pass equal rights amendment to get that passed in a very turbulent time in the 1960's. Make no mistake there were and still are many good white men out there who do not look at color of skin but content of character.
@NEGUS ASKARI HODARI No,if you are talking about me you didn't understand what I wrote, if the reports of what happened had indicated back "then" not "today" that the Buffalo soldiers saved the day for the US Military, it would have been ammunition to to end Jim Crow some 50 years earlier. After WW2, President Truman, after many Black serviceman performed at the highest levels in combat (e.g, the 761st Tank Battalion, the original Black Panthers, and 784th Tank battalion, both in France and Germany, the 92nd Infantly division, the successors of the Buffalo soldiers with 5th US Army from Italy to Austria), he desegregated the US Military.
Say less, I am buying this book!
I don't like the look on either one of their faces while telling the story, and I don't like the way the interviewer says BLACK.....uuuugh
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Not meaning to offend anyone but the 9th (200 men) and 10 Cav (400 men) were at Kettle Hill with the rest of Wheeler's Cav. Div. (2000 men) Kent's First Inf. Div. (5,000 men) attacked San Juan Hill, the only Black soldiers at San Juan were the 24th Inf. (450 men) in Wikoff's brigade. The 25th Inf (500 men) was in Lawton's Division of about 6,000 men at El Caney. The four black regiments only totaled about 1700 men out of 18,000. Also, the 1st Vol. Cav. (Rough Riders) landed in Cuba with 600 men. At Las Guasimas they lost 7 men killed and 34 wounded NOT one third!). The interviewee is right that Gen. Wheeler's Cav Div. did not arrive on San Juan Hill until the battle was mostly over. Lawton's Inf. Div. fought at El Caney all afternoon and after capturing the fort rested for several hours. It was after sunset when Lawton's Div at last arrived in the San Juan Ridge. Wheeler's Cav. Div moved left to make room for Lawton is not well informed. The Black soldiers fought well throughout the campaign. The real problem they had was while traveling through the south on trains and later in camp at Tampa. Just to clarify the geography both San Juan Hill and Kettle Hill were summits along the San Juan Heights which ran west to east, south of Santiago. Both were fortified with barbed wire fences, trenches and "block-houses". The State Volunteer units were held back during the battle because of their inferior weapons (single-shot black powder, "trap-door" rifles) and lack of experience. The 71st NY was sidelined before the attack on San Juan Hill by Gen. Kent and the Michigan regiments were sent south to guard a bridge over the San Juan River.
Truly sad that once again blacks did not get the proper recognition that that deserve !!😢😢
Yep
The Krag Jorgensen fired a .30 caliber round using smokeless powder. Ballistics were similar to the round fired by the AK-47 today. Of course the 10th Cavalry did have some black officers, as many as could be found.
No, the 10th didn't initially have black officers. Their first officer was white, Major Benjamin Griesson. In fact, countless officers refused to command black soldiers even when offered promotions...to include Custer. Henry O. Flipper became the first non-white officer to lead the all black 10th Calvary.
Still the m93 is superior.
@@patrickmcqueen9309 Do you mean the M43? The .30 Army round has about the same energy, a bit more than 2000 Joules, but coming before the turn of the 20th Century, had a bit more mass and a bit less energy.
10th US Cavalry Regiment Black Officers.
Henry Ossian Flipper (1856 to 1940) Second Lieutenant Troop A 1878 to 1882. USMA Class of 1877.
William T. Anderson Chaplain Major
1897 to 1910.
Benjamin Oliver Davis, Sr. (1877 to 1970) Second Lieutenant Troop E 1901.
Charles Denton Young (1864 to 1922) Major/Lieutenant Colonel Squadron commander 1915 to 1917. USMA Class of 1889.
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Colin Powell never experienced racism in the military. I wish my dad experience was the same as his. My dad fought in the Korean War too. He told us that most of the officers in charge were from the Southern states and pure racists. Originally, he was from another country and was not used to being called the "N" word. He stated how ignorant they were. Now my dad was very handsome, intelligent; bi-lingual spoke English, Spanish and some German, a math wiz with a photographic memory. He too was very light-skinned with blue-grey eyes. So I am amazed that Colin Powell never experienced racism, interesting. He is one of the lucky ones.
Funny, nowadays the Northerners are the racist ones.
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The truth will eventually surface.
Powell shared a common ancestor with the Spencer family - Princess Diana and could also be related to General MacArthur.
His Brother was a former employee of the British Railways living in East Dulwich, London UK.
I think Powell's neice performed at the UK's National Theatre during the early Nineties.
Another "Buffalo Soldier", Regiment was given the task of assisting General Custer during his last stand but arrived too late.
There are some marvellous images of Custer playing with black Childrey whist on leave. Probably from the Smithsonian.
The original Buffalo Soldiers were actually admired by some native Americans who were known to lick their wrists to remove what they thought was some kind of paint.
Some tribal leaders even invited or encouraged them to actually breed with their squawes.
We mustn't forget that nearly 1/10th of native American land was given over to the American Negro population during the late Nineteen Century for their endeavours making America's black economy the 7th largest economy at that time.
no mention of the Cuban guerrillas fighting along side the Americans and before since 1895 and knew the terrain better.
So you are saying that Colin Powell did't experience racism because he wasn't dark enough?
No, not exactly. Without going to deep into it, let's just say he is the type that would rather "go along, to get along". Not ruffle any feathers never wanting to piss anyone "white" off, even at the expense of his own people. As long as he continues to act like this he doesn't "feel" the weight of racism as some of his more carbonated brothers and sisters do.
knowself5 Could you please clarify what not ruffling feathers means.
Examples of causing a fuss or ruffling the feathers or pissing "massa" off: Going against the establishment, questioning the presence of American soldiers in foreign lands with abundant oil supply, protesting police violence against "Black" people, asking the sitting President and/or President elect what they plan to do for the so called "Black" citizens of the U.S., Telling people to boycott establishments that don't put money back into the so called "Black" community, etc, etc.
knowself5 That would not be racism, because anyone that would do thous things would not get anywhere near as far as Colin Powell. However I do see what you are saying now. Thank you for the clarification.
One more question. If is okay to ask a President/President-Elect what they plan to do for the "black" community(and it certainly needs help), is it okay for a "white" person to do the same?
@@knowself5 Jamaicans are like that. Some of them claim that they did not know racism was in the U.S.
Soldiers are soldiers, that's it. No matter the skin color. White or black
Tell that to the Harlem Hellfighters and the Red Tails.
@@michaeljoseph741 AND THE BLACKS AT FORT PILLOW...
here up north in Buffalo NY our school's weren't fully integrated until 1976...
Good. Then it all went downhill from there..
There were no horses in Cuba during the raid because it was hard to transport them from Florida. Most the soldiers in Cuba died of malaria, disease, and malnutrition than from combat.
In every war.. from Greco-Persians Wars till WW1 most of soldiers died of illness....Boer Wars.. American Civil War, Coalition Wars etc etc...not only in 1898....Between 1895 to 1899, Spanish Army had 58.000 deaths in Cuba.... only 2.000 in action!!!
Trying to rewrite history again. Learned way back in the 60's about this fight and the make up of the Rough Riders in addition to the black troops. Oh by the way there were American Indians in the force also.
You mean Native Americans.
The so called blacks were the Native Americans
@@thegrandcanyonisegypt2489 So the Buffalo Soldiers were American Indians?
This whole thing is BULLSHIT. The real hero's of the war or battle were AMERICANS that consisted of North Eastern business kids, Black soldiers (known as Buffalo soldiers), Americans of Mexican descent, and American Indians. They were ALL Americans and portrayed as American Hero's.
@@charlestdennis2797 STFU with that 🐂💩
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9th Cavalry Troopers pushed and fired Gatling guns up the hill. Seen a painting of it. The Fort is on the 9th Cavalry Distinctive Unit Insignia. Along with a headdress wearing Warrior, holding a rifle high, on horse back to denote their participation in the Indian Wars.
At West Point Military Academy, a contingent of 9th Cav instructed cadets on things Cavalry. They were considered to be experts.
9th Cav also protected Yosemite National Park. The National Park Service wears their Smokey The Bear hat in honour of the 9th Cavalry Troopers who had their Stetsons styled in the Montana Crease. It was said they picked that up from fighting Mexican bandits who styled their sombreros as such.
All hail to the 10th Cavalry boys. Shame on you Teddy .
I guess Lawton's Gatlings had nothing to do with all those Spanish casualties.
I believe Lt Parker was in charge of the Machine Gun detachment.
My grampa, William H. Gaston, 'H' Troop, John Persing was his Quartermaster.
Pershing was a even bigger hypocrite than Teddy Roosevelt, he sent his black soldiers, later called the Harlem Hellfighters to fight with the French Army.they kicked total absolute Ass and liberated thei
that Country receiving some of their highest medals but couldn't get a Purple Heart from their own,some got beaten as they got off the train returning from serving USA with honor
It was a newly found letter written by General of the Armies John Joseph Pershing AEF found in 2015 by Senator Charles Shumer D-NY Research staff that allowed Sergeant William Henry Johnson 369th US Infantry Regiment 93rd US Infantry Division Provisional Distinguished Service Cross DSC award to be upgraded to the Medal of Honor MoH.
Also there was a all Black unit in New Jersey in the war for independence who fought for the Colonies. Also there was an all Black unit that fought for the British too.
You mean RI not NJ.
Actually the term "Buffaloes" was the derogatory name given to North Carolinians who joined the Union Army during the Civil War. So white troops gave black troops the derogatory name "Buffaloes". What is also interesting is America doesn't have buffaloes, it has Bison.
I didn't know anything about this absolutely knew to me.
I learned all this helping with a project for a 10th Cavalry historical preservation. Important thing to note was the Roosevelt screwed over everyone by constantly putting up big hot air recon balloons.
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I don't understand why they say " unknown story "? Anybody that knows anything about the Spanish-American war knows about the Buffalo soldiers role in the taking of San Juan Hill. They were led by Black Jack Pershing ( where he got the name Black Jack ) and they were most instrumental.
This needs to be a movie
There are tons of movies about the rough riders, and they get credit.
This… and they also need to make a prominent movie on the “Harlem Hellfighters” who served in World War I.
Damn America!!
I’ve heard people talk about starting a race war. If you’re Black the race war began in 1619! There have been lulls in the carnage, but all in all it’s been ongoing ever since! I’m sure no one can dispute that.
Grandad fought WWI, uncle Gunny in Korea, cousin Skins, Vietnam. Then had to come home to fight for human and civil rights, the right to vote n such! To date fighting voter suppression and disenfranchisement. Nevertheless, we will have reparations... eventually. Maybe my great grandkids!
What a load of BS. Just like the book, your comment is nonsense.
Andy Taylor said that Teddy towed his favorite cannon up the hill too...