Great vid! Something I'll put on the list for our 1800 resurrection. It like your 1855 has set for a long time. At least the previous owner had a good thought. They wired the clutch down.
I grew up with Deere's. The axles on those had thousand hour grease intervals. I just got a Super 77 diesel and if I read correctly it said every ten hours. I need to get the brakes off and replace the seals behind the brake assemblies.
Great info as usual. You mentioned in last video about comparing reliance and some other brand that you are using on the overhaul. We in process of switching a combine engine out with the knocking one in 1850. The reliance gasket set I got had wrong exhaust and water pump gaskets in it. Went to our old Oliver dealer to get the right ones. Think I be looking into another source for me too. Had issues with head gaskets on a TW 35 from that company awhile back.
I know this is an unrelated question but I was wondering why AGCO stopped making White tractors in 2001 and only made Challenger, MF, and Valtra? I would think if they had more tractor brands under their umbrella they would stand a better chance of more sales.
I don't know. My best guess is the costs associated with the same tractor in different colors and sales numbers. It isn't just paint and decals, there's more time in the factory switching over, advertising for different colors, dealer support, inventory, there's a lot of incidentals that add up with a mutli brand platform. If I recall correctly, there was some kind of falling out with Cummins as well. There was a time when I couldn't get Cummins parts at my Agco dealer because of it.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I would have figured White and MF would have been their top 2 sellers since Challenger was fairly new and Valtra was a Italian brand if I remember right
MF was definitely number 1, and I doubt they'll ever go away from that. When they bought into MF in the 90s, nobody sold more tractors worldwide, even mother Deere. When you think about all those small farms in places like India that they were still selling tons of 50ish horsepower tractors at, you can see why. I think it all came down to price structuring. MF was their economy line, Challenger was their mid level, and Fendt was their Cadillac. White had more of an association with a lower price model, and they didn't need 2 of those. Same with the orange tractors. I don't know how many times I have heard " I'd try a White, but there's no dealers near me." The name carried a lot of baggage. I wish the White name had stuck around, but if I had my way there would still be Olivers.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thats really a shame. I wish the US tractor makers like AC, OLIVER and WHITE could have fought off being bought out because it would be so cool to see what their tractors would look like. I think with more competition with more brands the prices would have been and would continue to be more competitive ,
I'm planning to do this on my 1600. The parts book shows a felt washer outboard of the seal. I believe mine has grease fittings on the axle caps. Are they supposed to work with the grease for a dust excluder? Would you replace or omit the felt washers since you mention that Oliver deemed the grease fitting unnecessary?
The felt was there to keep dirt out, I'm sure the grease helped, but I don't know the official answer to that question. I would guess the use of double lip seals eliminated the need for the felt, which would also be when the grease was eliminated.
Good video, Chris. AFter I bought my 66 this past summer, my mechanic/farmer friend Joe changed those seals for he while he was going over it. Good to see how to do it. Where are your crocs?
Shoup has a good selection of plow parts. Wear parts for Oliver plows go by the model number of the bottom. The 619 was probably the most coomon. Original parts will have numbers stamped into the back of each piece. Shoup shows measurements for the bolt holes so you can compare and make sure you get the right part.
Looks good to me, of course for me it would be better if I had a concrete floor. Oh well, at least I have the nice sun and warm weather to do mine in, hmm. Anyways, thanks Chris have a great weekend.
Went back and looked. Arrow is what you were using. I will look into them next time.
Great vid! Something I'll put on the list for our 1800 resurrection. It like your 1855 has set for a long time. At least the previous owner had a good thought. They wired the clutch down.
The 1855 lived on a dairy farm, and has sat for the last 15ish years.
It’s always easier to slide it in while it’s still slimy. Thank goodness for seal lube.
Bite the pillow Mr Seal, you're going in dry!
@@ThatOliverGuyChris your rubber won’t save you now!
@@rosstheoliverman 😆 🤣 😂
I just replaced the ones on the 1750 that was my uncles. It's almost done from turkey creek farms be safe n thankful
good cold saturday morning
We got down to about zero. Supposed to hit 45 on Tuesday
Good morning Chris ☕️☕️
Good morning!
Thanks for this video! I haven’t gotten to the hubs yet on my 88,that’ll be the next project,keep them videos coming Chris!
I grew up with Deere's. The axles on those had thousand hour grease intervals. I just got a Super 77 diesel and if I read correctly it said every ten hours. I need to get the brakes off and replace the seals behind the brake assemblies.
I would have to look that up. I'm sure not greasing mine anywhere close to 10 hours.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris it seemed Overkill to me too. It's possible I read it wrong.
Thanks for sharing this video it was very interesting. Also thanks so much for explaining everything as you go. Good job!!!!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great info as usual. You mentioned in last video about comparing reliance and some other brand that you are using on the overhaul. We in process of switching a combine engine out with the knocking one in 1850. The reliance gasket set I got had wrong exhaust and water pump gaskets in it. Went to our old Oliver dealer to get the right ones. Think I be looking into another source for me too. Had issues with head gaskets on a TW 35 from that company awhile back.
The quality is just so poor from them. I don't want to single them out, but a lot of people are throwing good money away with their parts.
On my 1900 FWA, the rear wheel center is one large casting. I'm not looking forward to removing those heavy pieces. Thanks Chris
I've never done one of those. The axle is tapered on those and can be a bear to break free. I look forward to your video on it. 😃
You made that look pretty easy. Not much to it once the wheel and hub are off.
I left the tough part out. 😆 The wheels can be a bear.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Hahaha. You ain’t kidding about that.
I know this is an unrelated question but I was wondering why AGCO stopped making White tractors in 2001 and only made Challenger, MF, and Valtra? I would think if they had more tractor brands under their umbrella they would stand a better chance of more sales.
I don't know. My best guess is the costs associated with the same tractor in different colors and sales numbers. It isn't just paint and decals, there's more time in the factory switching over, advertising for different colors, dealer support, inventory, there's a lot of incidentals that add up with a mutli brand platform. If I recall correctly, there was some kind of falling out with Cummins as well. There was a time when I couldn't get Cummins parts at my Agco dealer because of it.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I would have figured White and MF would have been their top 2 sellers since Challenger was fairly new and Valtra was a Italian brand if I remember right
MF was definitely number 1, and I doubt they'll ever go away from that. When they bought into MF in the 90s, nobody sold more tractors worldwide, even mother Deere. When you think about all those small farms in places like India that they were still selling tons of 50ish horsepower tractors at, you can see why. I think it all came down to price structuring. MF was their economy line, Challenger was their mid level, and Fendt was their Cadillac. White had more of an association with a lower price model, and they didn't need 2 of those. Same with the orange tractors. I don't know how many times I have heard " I'd try a White, but there's no dealers near me." The name carried a lot of baggage. I wish the White name had stuck around, but if I had my way there would still be Olivers.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris Thats really a shame. I wish the US tractor makers like AC, OLIVER and WHITE could have fought off being bought out because it would be so cool to see what their tractors would look like. I think with more competition with more brands the prices would have been and would continue to be more competitive
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I'm planning to do this on my 1600. The parts book shows a felt washer outboard of the seal. I believe mine has grease fittings on the axle caps. Are they supposed to work with the grease for a dust excluder? Would you replace or omit the felt washers since you mention that Oliver deemed the grease fitting unnecessary?
The felt was there to keep dirt out, I'm sure the grease helped, but I don't know the official answer to that question. I would guess the use of double lip seals eliminated the need for the felt, which would also be when the grease was eliminated.
I need to replace rear wheel seals on our 2-85. Leaks like a sieve on one side.
Same procedure, and probably the same seal.
I’ve done a few. Thankfully we moved the hubs on the 2-85 when we bought it so hopefully the u bolts won’t argue to much….lol
Darnyoutube handle. Is this Ross?
Yes, Ross, the up north Oliver guy….lol
Good video, Chris. AFter I bought my 66 this past summer, my mechanic/farmer friend Joe changed those seals for he while he was going over it. Good to see how to do it. Where are your crocs?
😆 🤣 😂. I do have some fleece lined crocs for colder weather. I should slip them into a video.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris I agree. Gotta keep up your image to the general public! 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Would this be the same for my 1800a? I'm wanting to learn as much as I can with it
The procedure will be exactly the same, but it takes a different seal.
Thank you I appreciate it and find your videos helpful with the 2 we own
I was wondering where the best place to buy replacement parts for Oliver plows....565 and 348 plows to be specific
Shoup has a good selection of plow parts. Wear parts for Oliver plows go by the model number of the bottom. The 619 was probably the most coomon. Original parts will have numbers stamped into the back of each piece. Shoup shows measurements for the bolt holes so you can compare and make sure you get the right part.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris thank you very much! If you ever get tired of the 1955 let me know lol
Would this process be the same for a 770?
Yep.
@@ThatOliverGuyChris ok thanks a lot. I haven’t been able to find a vid for the 770.
Looks good to me, of course for me it would be better if I had a concrete floor. Oh well, at least I have the nice sun and warm weather to do mine in, hmm. Anyways, thanks Chris have a great weekend.
Thanks!