Why Submarines In The U.S. Navy Are Getting An Expensive Update
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- Опубліковано 18 чер 2024
- Submarines are the cornerstone of the U.S. Navy's strategic plan to patrol the world's oceans, but cost overruns and supplier problems could slow down the pace of submarine production.
CORRECTION: At 5:47, this video misstated the year in which the first Ohio-class submarine was delivered. The correct year is 1981.
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The U.S. Navy Has An Expensive Plan For A New Class Of Submarines
One thing is certain. It will cost more than initially expected
fair lol
Ain’t that the truth
Like all in human history
Yup
And take longer to complete.
Me: Not thinking about submarines
CNBC: Let’s talk about submarines
Me: Ok!
Ok people, excuse, please be responsible and get you and your entire family vaccinated. President Biden wants at least 70% of all Americans vaccinated by July 4th! Together, we can defeat this pandemic!
@M VB I normally don't correct peoples grammar, but considering that the rest of your comment is profoundly stupid it only makes sense to point out that it's spelled "Disgusting".
I'm sick and tired of 11" submarines pretending to be $5 footlongs.
Lmao
@@hsy831 wwèw
LMAO
OK then...
Good poi t
What about the droid attack on the wookies?
I will make it legal.
Master Toro is right, it's a system we cannot afford to lose
Send master yoda
I honestly felt it was under-reported on, a lot of people still don't know about it.
Good relations I have with the Wookies
“Quiet, deadly and expensive” like the the gas I get after eating caviar.
Keep in mind, the US Navy leased that same Gotland class submarine for over a year, constantly running war games with it. They learned everything there is to learn about diesel electric subs, how to track them, hunt them down, and destroy them. The US Navy is well aware of the strengths and weaknesses of every class of submarine on the planet. If they felt they needed a diesel electric submarine, trust me, they would have some.
Incroyable.
Here’s one other point CNBC forgot to mention about Diesel/Electric subs. It’s not just a matter of their range and time on station issues they don’t have the speed to chase down most surface combatants or a carrier battle group. Moreover, the faster they (D/E subs) attempt to go the easier they are to detect. Nor do they have same space available for bigger and better sensor packages that nuclear submarines have.
7:14 Bang for the buck never had a more true meaning
LOL
The carrier strike force is the PR end of the Navy, the submarines are the Business end of the Navy.
Thanks Genius. All the time underwater breathing an artificial atmosphere sure helped you, didn't it.
@@arcanondrum6543 u calling him dumb 😂, it was quite a funny comment
@@hkamensky2 You might be surprised but I DID join the service. It doesn't matter in this context, not even if I had been a Commander.
Facts matter and you're missing the point.
@@arcanondrum6543 what branch though
@@cyrusmuller6502 How many hats do you own?
My question is as important to the topic as yours.
CNBC, please get rid of the crypto scammers all over the place
Its a youtube problem. Just report them.
@@peterisawesomeplease I do report every one I find - u-tube isn't stopping them.
U cant its a yt ads
I am sick of them, even in youtube ads you can see them.
I just toured the USS Albacore and that was so cool. It was a test vessel where they constantly were testing new tech and new ideas on a sub. And they have some cool stories from the crew like almost getting stuck, lights going black in the middle of a speed Run.
That's cool, I'm currently stationed where the Albacore is. I drive by it every day but I still haven't done the tour lol.
@@brycemower9807 Get in a tour. Our family did. Glas we have the Virginia Class already but they need ti built quicker and more efficiently. Hurry GD EB/Huntington Ingles. Work a 3rd shift and weekends and holidays too.
Run silent run deep. Under every taskforce or carrier group you see on the surface there's at least 1 sub.
Most likely 2 suds for every task force...
Again another example of that infrastructure is imperative to our national security
Military industrial complex is going down! They'll be no match to the UFOs sitting under water.
What submarine has prevented a national security threat since the 1980's??
Give thanks to the stupidity of the gop for blocking the infrastructure bill that Biden has planed...🤦🥴
@@raymondmejias8071
That plan doesn't include cyber security. It's mostly for the water system, roads, and bridges.
@@ctgottapee Would you rather have Chinese or Russian subs dominating the ocean? That itself is a national security risk.
US Navy's submarine fleet is THE crucial part of the service and the only part of the service that shouldn't spare any cost for an R&D or the number of deployed vessels. If the cost of the fleet becomes unsustainable, the Navy has to cut else where cause the subs are too valuable to endure cutbacks, weather in development of the next generation of vessels or in a total number of deployed subs. And when I say Navy should cut anywhere else, I mean just that. Even the Congress law mandated 11 aircraft carriers should be on the table. Although our aircraft carriers are the pinnacle of US power projection and have been for the last 70 years, they won't be as important as submarines in the unthinkable case of a major war against a near peer power.
Our submarine technology is second to none. Although some of the overmatch we had over our adversaries has eroded when we were bogged down in a counterinsurgency warfare in Afghanistan and Iraq, and our enemies had time to catch up, submarine tech has stayed on the cutting edge of capability, stealth, sensors and other classified technology that is installed in them.. We are in the process of building the new Columbia class nuclear ballistic missile submarines to replace the Ohio class but we're also in the opening stages of developing a next gen SSG(N), better known as the Virginia class submarine replacement, which will be more akin to the Seawolf class of the late Cold War than to Virginia class. Virginias are incredibly capable subs but they were mostly developed for the littoral water warfare, spying and executing land attack missions with their Tomahawk missiles. SSN(X) will be more of the deep diving hunter killers capable of destroying the best that the Russians or Chinese can throw at us.
Times are changing and once again we have to stay vigilant, together with our friends and allies, against the adversaries that won't have any moral doubts in exploiting our weakness or a perceived lack of vigilance. Submarines are best for that task. Especially US submarines that are superior to anything sailing in the depths of the world's oceans.
as a submariner, i would like to tell you that sounded a lot like one of the admirals "you are important" memos xD
@@averageamerican8607 Lmao. I agree with him though.
I have no idea what submarine technology is but I think you do thanks buddy
In short "we must support military industrial complex"
In short Americans need to work where they can and buy local. That's all the economic stimulus we need 👩🔧🇺🇲🇷🇺
0:54 Tawanese navy still uses ex USS Cutlass sub. It's more than 75 years old!
Yeah buying a new one can mean another Cross-Straight Crisis. Plus, I don't think the rest of the world would approve unless some kind of war break out in Japan or Korea.
No one cares about "Taiwan"
Would you get on one in a war?
A few billion dollars on submarines *check*. Upgrades to the USA infrastructure, bridges, or even a high speed rail? *priceless*
Without the one you won't get the other
They are not mutually exclusive
High speed rail is a silly bit of Europe envy. It doesn’t make sense. California tried and it’s an utter farce.
Russian drones armed with nukes? Yikes... so much for sleeping at night.
Ehh thats not nearly as bad as the end of the intermediate ballistic missile treaty. Even with nuclear drone torpedoes the calculus of mutually assured destruction is mostly the same. And there is little risk for a non attack to be mistaken for an attack. The end of the intermediate ballistic missile treaty vastly raises the odds that a non nuclear attack will be accidentally be considered a real one or that someone will get it in their heads that a nuclear war could actually be won.
@@peterisawesomeplease Not exactly in the cold war russia had an incident where due to programing error it showed 9999 missile were heading towards them and the computer was telling to retaliate it was the decision of the commanding officer common sense that we avoided a nuclear war.
Another incident in US in which they saw 1 missile heading towards them and it was the decision of the commanding officer common sense that we avoided another nuclear war.
Machines are all good and is necessary but people should be in charge of the button and they should be present in location where they can do a manual abort what russia is doing is dangerous.
@@anandisrocking007 Oh I agree that humans should be in a loop. The problem is intermediate range missiles which used to be banned encourage removing the person unlike long range ones.
i have a question: with new extensive underwater worldwide survey going on, where we will have unprecedented access of undersea terrain, will the role of submarine as a stealth weapon decrease?
Oh jesus..,relaxs everyone has them
The US submarine force is simply terrifying. And I say this as an American; I can only imagine what people in nations that are hostile to America must think. There is no way the US Navy will neglect their subs.
I thank you for your concern but other countries have submarines and other nuclear assets too. Everyone should be concerned.
Nations hostile to the US: nations that wish to have their own foreign policy and not follow the US
Ask the Taliban.
They think the nuclear subs are funny
OR deploy a US built SSK out of Japan or the Philippines.
Shhhh.... China can hear you.
depends on the political situation but Philippines can be a problem as the Philippines is basically a rope being pulled by both china and usa so sending subs there can be disastrous if there's a political disagreement or sabotage
@@perlasandoval7883 With China claiming the entire South China sea , China has no friends in that area. Especially the Philippines and Vietnam.
That’s fine, but misses the point. The US wants to operate surface ships near China, where they’re at risk from Chinese subs. More US subs in the area would be of only limited help.
@@mebsrea The odds are against a sub vs a surface ship head to head. One ping and they know where that sub is .
Ships also have homing torpedoes.
You can abandon a surface ship you can't from a submarine.
obsession of trying to become aquaman like were a serious thought process in the older days. We have come this far. time for new ideas.
Its not an obsession, its a legit strategy. Its hard to detect a submarine, and it will always have a use in modern warfare.
I hope they get better night vision camera to record UFO footage in HD
But if the footage wasn't blurry and far away who would believe it? 🤔 😆
If they get better pictures I hope our scientists can make something useful. Yes I know we will never know. So what?
Thx for the content.
Is the military industrial complex funding CNBC now?
CNBC is a business, not a charity. NSA contracts out its black ops to Booz Allan Hamilton. this clip may just be one of its handiwork.
@@willengel2458 loo
Shut up, US power, death to China
@@MrPrush-ji4gs lmao what?
@@TheBicPen learn how to read
What ever plan they tell us, you bet bet there is a better plan we don't know about.
Hopefully 😂
Americans: Can we have affordable healthcare ?
Government: Sorry, healthcare machine broke. Best I can give you are those shiny tubes of death that go underwater
Americans: Please, we are dyin...
Military: Haha, torpedoes go vziouuum
This would be true for other countries where the military has power and control over the country. But in the US, it is the politicians that responsible for this. US could spend significantly less and focus on protecting the North America. But they don't because the privately controlled military industry made up of manufacturers and suppliers spread out in every state of the US; likes wars so they can sell more.
Do you not understand the point of nuclear submarines? they are deterrent from getting nuked because if another country were to obliterate the U.S, these subs could still retaliate, making sure mutually assured destruction still takes place. I'm fine with tax dollars going towards these if they prevent us from getting nuked, no?
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What else is new in America...? SIGH!!!
Underfunded for decades??? Dafuq is this guy smoking??? Gimme some.
Well, if the Pentagone says it it must be true.
Lets build more subs then we can maintain then cry about it.
@@MatejKebe wtf? The Navy is cutting back on the subs since a lot of technological advancements have been made since the Los Angeles class and we now have subs that can do more advanced missions. The number of Virgina class subs to the number of Los Angeles class is going to be hugely different
War is only a waste of money to society. It's profitable only for the elite.
@@DarkPesco if that was the case then should we have allowed Germany and Japan to take over the world? Should we have let the Russians take over Europe?
The series "the last resort" showed the power of nuclear submarines....to bad they cancelled the show.
"dont test me, or we will all...burn together" -captain (crazy enough?😏)
@@mho... Marcus was the best.....
Such an amazing show! And I’m from New Zealand, my dad showed me that we all loved it. Real, real shame it got cancelled
If they spend 700bn plus a year on the military, why can't they spend more on this if it's so important?
most of it is salary
@@scatteringparameters.4167 then they should cut down on the number of soldiers lol
The government don’t care about us, that’s why I advice people to invest in crypto,2020 stock market is just very difficult and unbelievable, I rather invest my money into crypto.
@@georgewilson1104
After a successful investment you have nothing to worry about whether the rise and fall of economy won’t affect you make your future brighter by making good investments.
Say that again when you don't get your next Government check.
Imagine the smells after a long tour. Lol
The worst smell is probably the air itself. They use a chemical to filter Carbon from the Air that smells bad.
@@acceptablecasualty5319 wouldn’t say it smells bad. Just has a distinct smell to it
It’s not expensive. The FRS can print money as much as they need. BTW According to this report the Swedish conventional submarines are the only threat to US navy...
Exactly. One round of stimulous checks could pay for all subs to be replaced with new ones.
After the first couple of Columbia class SSBNs are in active service and related design revisions have been identified for follow-on production, the production rate should be ramped up and SSGN variants should be added.
I can tell you the Columbia is definitely going to take longer to make and cost more then they thought. There is already problems with its design.
They better get those built quick. Add more working shifts and weekends. Maybe holidays too.
I'm wondering if the Gotland class subs had to contend with underwater mines in those war games.
Democrats probably want solar-powered submarines.
Nuclear power* fixed it for you.
You crazy
The depth of intellect from the right. What an embarrassment.
@@billwhitis9997 You really didn't even see that joke as it whizzed over your head, did you? Here's a dollar. Buy a clue.
That is a little bit funny
What would be cool is a water powered submarine
I see a bigger problem for the USA and that is parts . There are way too many systems in our ships, submarines, and aircraft that come from overseas vendors. Look at what has happened to car companies waiting for chips from another country. What a way to defend a country! I saw it many times during a 43 year career in the defense department and every time I raised this issue, it was brushed aside. I was on a ship in 1978 that had system that was controlled by Navair regulations and I could not work on the equipment because I had not been to school. If the ship had this system installed it could land and launch helicopters as long as the system was working. If the system went down, no helicopter landing or launching. Navair sent a factory trained mechanic to fix it. When, after three different port visits and the mechanic working on it in each port could not fix it, I asked to look at it. In a few hours I had it working perfectly. Regulations are put into place to help us, but sometimes they tie our hands. This is a weak point that needs to be addressed. Competition between different branches can do a lot of harm.
I totally agree and I believe that the US should open more chip production factories in the US under national budget. In 20 years when our jobs are replaced by the artificial intelligence that eats chips, we need those chip productions to stay safe to keep the AI running, so our GDP can stay in the way it is.
@@albertliu2548 Do not let Chinese spies steal American technologies! Free Taiwan!
US Navy must consider to invest in:-
(1) Diesel electric Attack Submarines (SSKs)
(2) Diesel electric Aircraft Carriers (CVV)
(3) Minesweepers
(4) Nuclear Cruisers with Electromagnetic Rail Guns & DEWs.
Its easier to mass manufacture SSKs & CVVs during a conflict in comparison to Nuclear Ships.
Nuclear Cruisers/Destroyers, CVNs, SSBNs & SSNs will allow US-Navy to have almost unlimited range with the only Limitation being food supplies for crew.
GO NAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Keep up the great work shipmates!!!
I'm surprised that North Korea even have sub but then again how many of them are functional.
They are all ancient Soviet “ hand me downs “ . It’s kinda misleading in this video because NK and Chinese submarines are no match to ours.
Submarines are cheap when you look at the number of missions they can perform. Every government weapons program cost more than the last due to inflation.
This guy looks like a nerdy version of John Cena.
5:00 covered the webcam with a sticker 😁😂🕵️♂️🤳📷
Really liked the Umbrella Movement sign 🔥
100 billion for an entire submarine program? Peanuts! What did Irak cost? 1 Trillion?
I love that the US military has an 'accountability office'
I bet its quiet in there.
Ok
because it's probably empty.
Why is the b-roll clip at 8:25 playing backwards??
Ole bucko at 1:33 needs to learn what size wrench to use
Lmao didn't even notice that, or he needs to get a screw wrench
FOR GODS SAKE!!! Do NOT SCRAP the ‘Aging’ US Subs!!! FULLY refurbish them and Put them in dry storage!
Ok, hulls are at the end of their life , reactors are running out of useable fuel and internal fittings are old and need replacement ( that’s a serious challenge on a boat 170 meters long ! )
Cheaper to build new than refurbish old
Stop screaming absolute nonsense !
Better and cheaper to build a new one
8:05 I used to live in the left tower
Are huge relatively slow Aircraft Carriers really still practical? It seems that missile development has almost guaranteed that they can quickly take Carriers out, unless there's something I don't understand. From a Layman's POV It seems more productive to spend our Military money on Subs.
9:10 - what happens when your statement is so full of word salad that nobody realizes it isn’t a complete sentence
It is a competition. It is a rivalry. It inherently is. Only so many dollars go into the Defense Dept budget. Every dollar in the Navy is one less for the other branches.
Nice work
USN Ballistic missile Subs are still from 1970s-80s built
The Indonesian sub disaster really put other countries old submarines into consideration.
2:43 "they have been underfunded" LMFAO
You can never pay too much for second strike abilities.
They honestly have been
Sustaining a world-class military is insanely expensive, surprisingly. Especially when the house of cards is held up by private businesses who can afford to overcharge the military on absolutely everything because there are so few competitors in the industry.
@@Epistolary8 well that’s an issue of lobbying
What is that background music in the first 1 min 30 seconds???
Just print up the money it's all good don't worry about it
The Navy doesn't have boats, they have ships
9:42 - WLC Doesn't control the breach doors anymore? I
Create more small, remote controlled unmanned subs. Drones under the sea.
You need to be able to communicate with unmanned subs, which will be difficult because of depth and difference in salinity in the water.
The sub would have to make decisions on its own.
6:40 Let me just say there's a reason we say there's 2 types of vessels, Submarines and targets
Look at all these sophisticated electronic gadgets and arsenal inside a submarine, the dangerous environment it live, the time it needs to build, a submarine will need at least several B $$$ to own. It is not a weapon 4 any cheap stake country.. 🤔🤔
Man Blake really looks like a CHAD
Having worked on subs and ships of the USN for 50 years, I'd keep right with God if I were you.Stupid is as stupid does and there is nothing sailor proof.I repaired systems that hadn't worked from the time the vessel left the shipyard that built it 20 years from the time it left.Not complex stuff but conveyors and generators and controllers. Stuff that I was trained to repair in EM "A" School while I was serving in the Navy but the shops can't do it now. So what else can the sailors not fix today? I have retired now but I've no doubt that things have gotten worse since I retired 8 years ago. The average time it takes to get a carrier out of the yards on a refit and repair has went from 11 months to 4 years.I would go down main passageways on the ships and see all the transformers and other electrical equipment choked with dust in the vent grids. I shudder to think how bad the controllers are as they have moving parts unlike transformers. The line voltage regulators were catching on fire on lots of ships when I retired and they supply the missile launchers and combat stations for the aircraft.Many of the ships were no longer water tight as the mct's had the blocks drilled out by the sailors to pull cable thru or the stuffing tubes were rotted and falling over on the weather decks.Maintenance is no longer a priority so no matter how many new ships they build if half the systems are none functioning how can they accomplish the mission? Hire some more minorities and womenf and see how that works out for you. 50 years and I only had 3 minorities who could learn and do the work.2 of them were Filipinos and one was black. I had women apprentices who told me they didn't have to do the work because they were going to be bosses.When I reported them for not doing what was required of them to have me sign off on their work cards they sent them to another mechanic and told me they were a protected class.I asked: If a system like steering has lost power how is woman being a protected class going to keep the ship from running into another ship or aground? We as a country are screwed if our military has this type of force to protect us.
I have never seen so many ads on such a short YT video. Perhaps sponsor the navy with YT ads...
I feel building new subs is very important. Keeping our country safe is #1. If we need to build new ships. Let's get at it. We need to be at top rate for protection. Putting it off will only put our country at a position of being unable to protect America at full force. This is a large country. With enormous amounts of peoplle to keep safe.
How about solve the bedbug issue at first? Poor service man. What they have to endure...
:52 Blake Herzinger must be related to John Cena.
Yes these needs are costly but it is a nessesity. Protection comes at a cost ..sometimes the cost is human life. The better the ships the safer we will be and the less in human life trageties.
Refit the retirement fleet into research and tourist fleets and offset the cost of state of the art replacement fleet with those revenues.
Refit are EXPANSIVE
Interesting and worthwhile video.
Unbeknownst to most analysts,, China is making amazing advances in stealthy submarines that could take out a carrier and perform other threatening operations.
cuz theyre gettin better n better
that guy has a strange mix of American and British accents 🤔
There is a difference between Boat and Ship dear CNBC
It's not expensive, it's inflation.
The new Columbia class boomer subs will be amazing
Did that guy really say that the US Navy has been underfunded?????
We need more
Submarines as DroneCarriers would be nasty!
I-400 2.0
haha... Submarines a nuke carriers. Why pesky drone?
@@nickl5658 because... nukes are an endgame weapon!
but a stealthy carrier, delivering remote controlled recon & attack craft to enemy shores?!, thats something they could use in pretty much every engagement!
Some of these comments when I scroll down are the funniest and most uninformed things I have read.
Love seeing the umbrella movement poster in the background.
U.S. have 68 submarines that not a crises in The Nuclear Missiles defense Triad.The Navy just replaces those submarines that are more than 30 years olds that all.
why doesn't the US shrink it's navy to stay close to the US?
Why not just use conventional submarines along with drone companion vessels, with some drones specialised for fuel tanker duty.
Exactly which Virginia class takes 7 years to build?
1:22 What is the guy in front of submarine doing?
Hell yeah, good bye UAV’s hello UUV’s. Next call of duty I’m predicting it.
Navy rocks!!!
"Under the Sea" - Sebastian
The Swedish One was real legend
They (Gotland class) are still in service. And there are 3 of them. 2 of them was cut in half, extended and updated and is back in service.
The next generation A26 Bleking class is on its way. 2 has been ordered.
9:43 i don't agree with that
a diesal sub can travel just as far as a nuclear sub the difference is that a diesal sub can't stay out for months under water.
With cocaine bear in Ru & Winnie in china, the game certainly has changed.
B-52's should have been retired decades ago, but they will be working far into the future. Same thing with Navy vessels - with will power, when they simply put their hand out and say give me a new ship, it means they are spoiled.
Always loved Sweden military technology, & their military engineering, they are a force to reckon with, they are just quietly letting everyone else think that they are irrelevant, but I hey have so great military hardware...✈️🛩️🎇🔥
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the schmo also has much of knowledge on military not only mma
This is stuff we should be talking about everyday on mainstream news. Not the crap we normally talk about. Not the crap we talk about everyday on a stupid news.
Ten minutes of my life I’ll never get back.