Stop Using Cordless Hammer Drills...

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  • Опубліковано 9 жов 2022
  • Stop wasting time, money, and working less efficiently using cordless hammer drills! We give you all the reason to move past this relic of battery powered cordless tools. We let you know why you should stop using cordless hammer drills and how to get your construction projects done right and what to do after you make the right choice!
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  • @ZeusAndKiller
    @ZeusAndKiller Рік тому +245

    I'm an electrician and I'm often not going to need a rotary hammer during an entire week. But I will be drilling multiple holes for tapcons. In that case, it makes more sense for me to have a hammer drill, and when I really need to bust up some concrete or drill huge holes, I'll break out my corded rotary hammer. But that extension cord is more cumbersome than carrying around a (little) extra weight on my drill

    • @thecarpenter4228
      @thecarpenter4228 Рік тому +33

      As The Carpenter, i rarely agree with the electrician. But you got this one bro😎👍🏾

    • @SuitGeoff
      @SuitGeoff Рік тому +16

      I'm also an electrician, this was literally my response I was coming down here to type.

    • @Grayfeasleil
      @Grayfeasleil Рік тому +11

      I'm an electrician, and I completely agree with you.

    • @gerardorodriguez9642
      @gerardorodriguez9642 Рік тому +5

      Exactlyyyyy

    • @GTB-yu2be
      @GTB-yu2be Рік тому +8

      @@SuitGeoff Same here, lol. I run conduit regularly on brick walls. The ironic part though is that I have DeWalt SDS drill and a drill/driver😆. But only because I was given the DeWalt drill as a gift from my daughter. I didn't have the heart to tell her I need a hammer drill.
      I love the rotary drill though. Especially the "chisel" setting that I thought I would never use

  • @MCKoolperson9
    @MCKoolperson9 Рік тому +77

    As a concrete artist, I drill tons of 5/32" holes, in 1.5" thick concrete. The cordless hammer drill has revolutionized how I work, because I don't need my giant rotary hammer, but I can still blast through hundreds of holes. No other tool matches the versatility for me

  • @smartperson325
    @smartperson325 Рік тому +42

    Depends on the trade and what you do. But for me it doesn't hurt to have that extra versatility. As an electrician sometimes you gotta install conduit and smaller equipment on concrete walls with 1/4" anchors and you don't need a full size rotary drill for a 1/4" hole especially a couple holes. Anything larger you need a rotary drill.

    • @CarRamrod224
      @CarRamrod224 Рік тому +2

      I agree. Its is electricians I do see using the hammer drills the most. And you have to think if you are up on a lift working and need your drill driver anyhow why do you want to take another tool (rotary hammer) to drill a couple holes to attach some stuff to block? When talking about weight that would be more than just a drill driver with a hammer drill capability.

    • @samwilliams1517
      @samwilliams1517 Рік тому +2

      Agreed, definitely the sparkies using these the most, I’ve even seen them putting tapped holes in concrete for threaded rod for hanging GSTs

    • @serb1990
      @serb1990 10 місяців тому +1

      As an electrician I can say this is accurate. Got a dcd999 and I love it

  • @settah17
    @settah17 Рік тому +150

    Where I’m from, we have something like 90% concrete structures due to tropical storms. That number includes most homes. Being a DIYer in a concrete home, a hammer drill makes the most sense to me for its versatility. I totally get that for most people a hammer drill is unnecessary. I just used mine over the weekend to do something as simple as hang new curtain rods. Definitely a necessary tool for me.

    • @loochan325
      @loochan325 Рік тому +10

      For concrete a hammer drill is the most stupid thing. A rotary hammer is milions or even bilions times faster, and also milions times more reliable. And also the SDS bits are wey-wey-wey more reliable only with a hammer drill that is using a moderate RPM with wey higher impact, with less friction that heat up the soldering of the carbide tip...
      But there is a use for hammer drill - for drilling brick wall a little faster then with no hammer and without cracking the bricks with a rotary hammer.

    • @settah17
      @settah17 Рік тому +28

      @@loochan325 you are absolutely right. A rotary hammer will out perform my hammer drill every day of the week.. but as I said, I’m not a contractor or tradesman. I’m not drilling 500 holes into concrete every day, so that time saving isn’t worth the lack of versatility to me. I don’t feel like my hammer drill takes long enough through concrete to warrant purchasing a rotary hammer, not to mention the additional bits. Even if I did, I still use my hammer drill on material other than concrete so I’d be using it anyway.
      Hope this helps to clarify.

    • @jasonzoretic9239
      @jasonzoretic9239 Рік тому +38

      IDK buddy, I am a contractor and rotary is sexy, but who wants to pull out the big guns to hang shutters. Or a shower door...

    • @matthewgebhard4
      @matthewgebhard4 Рік тому +8

      @@jasonzoretic9239 exactly. I have some needs that I use rotary hammers for myself having two at my shop. But for most everything the hammer drill (15 year old Milwaukee m12 brushed hammer drill/driver) works excellent for the occasional fire extinguisher hanger installations or white board hanging.

    • @eliadbu
      @eliadbu Рік тому +9

      @@loochan325 not every task requires a rotary hammer. Sometimes for drilling small holes or drilling in concrete blocks, you don't need a rotary hammer.
      So why use the big tools ( I have SDS plus and SDS MAX rotary hammers) when you can use the smaller tool that is very capable for the job?

  • @ProXiiWarning
    @ProXiiWarning Рік тому +2

    This guy is definitely a Milwaukee salesman

  • @Timc220
    @Timc220 Рік тому +17

    As a DIYer/non-pro, I opted for the hammer drill option because 1- my smaller impact driver gets used the most, and 2- since I don’t use it that frequently , I wanted to have the capability if needed. 3- the size/weight difference was minimal.

  • @Mishibar
    @Mishibar Рік тому +26

    I definitely agree that there are more specialized tools that will do the job better.
    However, the hammer drill fills one specific role for me personally, it's versatile and I don't HAVE to carry an impact driver and an SDS drill, thus saving weight and space in my tool bag/belt.
    At my job sites we are usually moving around a lot, nd getting very far from the car not knowing exactly what we're getting into, the hammer drill I find is perfect for that, it's light enough to have on your belt, can drill and screw in fasteners (gently and silently too, which the impact can't).
    Basically it is as you said, the jack of all trades, master of none. And that's exactly what I need.
    I have considered only carrying an impact, but I often do work where gentle fastening of screws is needed, and the lack of a clutch setting and extra noise on the impact just makes it fall short.

  • @mattadams7922
    @mattadams7922 Рік тому +6

    I've got both, I'm in trades, the issue is that a rotary hammer tends to break bricks a lot more often than a standard hammer drill. That's why I keep both. Punch a hole with either one but in certain situations a rotary hammer is too aggressive and the old stand by is the best choice.

  • @TheSidneySmith
    @TheSidneySmith Рік тому +22

    In some battery platforms, the hammer drill doesn't have any more weight nor size than the standard drill. Yet it provides a higher rpm, torque, and unique features than the standard drill in that line. So having that extra function when you need it (and some of us actually do need it available without having to reach for a different bit of kit) makes it a no brainer to have the function available. Also, I carry the 1/4 impact driver as well. Depending on the job, both can be the right tool for it, and sometimes, one is the right tool where the other will destroy what you are working on.

  • @anthonymoralessr.3889
    @anthonymoralessr.3889 Рік тому +32

    Hi Vince, IMHO it all depends on the type of construction in the area you live in. In my area most house constructions including the rooftop are made in concrete, masonry, rebar and cement blocks, it's a must on any drill. I live in a hurricane prone area PR. But up in the mainland I have to agree with you because I've seen the type of construction they do and mostly with wood, cement boards, gypsum boards, OSB ect.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  Рік тому +1

      Appreciate the feedback Anthony!

    • @SLaird22
      @SLaird22 Рік тому +1

      I live in Miami and this is certainly my experience as well. I've been putting lights into the wife's new office recently and the ceiling is concrete.

  • @bobsnewdirection1
    @bobsnewdirection1 Рік тому +5

    If I have to add a plastic anchor or 1 tapcon to something hammer drill is fine. Anything more or larger and sds plus comes out.

  • @1D10CRACY
    @1D10CRACY Рік тому +5

    I prefer an all in one drill solution like a cordless hammer drill. The cost and weight isn't that significant and I drill a lot of holes for Tapcon screws. A cordless hammer drill is the right tool for that job.

  • @brendanhillz187
    @brendanhillz187 Рік тому +6

    I’m not sure where this video was going. I use m18 hammer-drill on tiles in customers bathrooms. These bathrooms cost anyway from 10-50k plus. You can’t come in there using a rotary hammer drill risking damaging porcelain,marble, granite, quarts and ceramic. You have to be a professional and use caution while using the best tool for the job.

  • @ihopetheyhaveicees
    @ihopetheyhaveicees Рік тому +4

    Hammer drill is nice for small anchors and when a rotary hammer may initially chip out your concrete/brick/block. I've had to put tapcons in old brick and the rotary hammer I had was too aggressive. Went to the hammer drill for the rest and it was smooth sailing.

  • @leemuse3746
    @leemuse3746 Рік тому +2

    Hey Vince, as a remodel and maintenance person. It helps to have a hammer drill. Example- I own a bosch bull dog corded. I would have required more drywall to be removed when replacing a bad or rotten bottom plate in a bathroom. The old anchors or nails were rusted down to concrete. Just made new holes and set anchors. Quicker easier and had the driver function to tighten the nuts down. Did not have to carry two tools, or mess with cords. Saved me time. I'm sure there was a faster way, just working with what I have. With that said, I was impressed how fast gen4 hammer drill performed. Gen 3 was meh in slabs when it came to that. Keepem coming love the content.

  • @MrHowieZ1973
    @MrHowieZ1973 Рік тому +6

    I look at it this way. Hammer drills are not that much more than drill drivers. We have a lot of old brick buildings in my area and they always need a small hole to hang anything. Better to have it and not need it than to not have it and need it in a pinch.

  • @Aaron86v
    @Aaron86v Рік тому +4

    I actually need the hammer function for my use case. I install window hardware for storm boards on new homes. Lots of them are stucco so theres a layer of mud i need to go through, I also run into nails every now and then. Definitely don't want to be lugging around a heavy rotary hammer for 15-30 windows, drilling 60-120 holes, especially when some are over 12 feet high. After that im putting in 5.5in lag screws with my impact. Wish i could only use one tool, but even if there was one, it would burn out from all the hole drilling and lag screwing. They both can heat up quite a bit on hot days.

  • @zzmalone6720
    @zzmalone6720 Рік тому +17

    I’m with you on this one. I definitely try to plan out the job and bring the appropriate tools. Especially when drilling and fastening into block and concrete. My M18 hammer drill isn’t my go to for that. I have used it in a pinch for drilling concrete when I needed to but it wasn’t the specific reason for me purchasing it. It’s definitely more than capable, but I’ll default to a rotary drill for that task. Great video! Have a great night! 👍🏻

    • @bltmiy
      @bltmiy Рік тому +1

      Shout out to u and vcg lol

  • @josephchiavetta6361
    @josephchiavetta6361 Рік тому +1

    I'm a service plumber and my hammer drill takes care of what little masonry drilling I do with ease and having the adjustable chuck vs sds specific bits is also very convenient.

  • @Fredfredfredfredfredfredfred
    @Fredfredfredfredfredfredfred Рік тому +6

    Concrete. Nuff said

  • @Rompestromper
    @Rompestromper Рік тому +13

    these drivers are very usefull for bricks which are very common in Europe, most SDS drills go to hard and damage the bricks whils these hammerdrills do a terrific job at it. And in Europe a lot of carpentry involves brickwork so for me it is the only type of driver I have (got a few but multi purpose bits).

    • @forger9443
      @forger9443 Рік тому +1

      This is it for me. Many times the blowout on the back side of a rendered brick or block wall from a rotary hammer is a huge inconvenience for patch work. You could take the time to pilot hole it with a much smaller bit and then use the actual diameter bit on each side of the wall, but that's time consuming and also not always practical. I also hate doing more damage than is necessary personally. And I don't think you can get away from that with a rotary because it relies on that increased force/IPM to drill faster.

  • @reddbeard2030
    @reddbeard2030 Рік тому +7

    Go Vince!
    Your Wrong!
    I pull it out when I need to use hole saws 1"+ and the occasional need for the Hammer Drill function.
    I chose this instead of the regular Drill/Driver for these reasons. I get Drill/Hammer Drill.
    I also have my hex Impact I use as a Drill/Driver with Spade Bits. Can't do Hole Saw with Impact.
    Also good to have both to use at the same time to keep from continuously changing out bits for pilot holes.
    Just drill & drive ambidextrous, lol.
    👍

  • @benconverse6158
    @benconverse6158 Рік тому +1

    When I started out with my handyman business, I got a hammer drill/ impact combo kit, as it was affordable and had a lot of versatility. These days I have a rotary hammer too because the hammer drill is so slow on concrete and can't really handle doing 1/2 inch holes for anchor points. Also, Milwaukee sells a basic rotary hammer for like $150, so if you're going to be doing masonry, concrete, etc, just get a rotary hammer. You won't be sad you did!

  • @jimmyscustomaudio
    @jimmyscustomaudio Рік тому +2

    I use a hammer drill for drilling small holes in tile but I also own all the different styles of drills you spoke about. also a hammer drill will work when you need to drill holes for a few tapcons unexpectedly if you don't have a rotary hammer with you.

  • @williamj1969
    @williamj1969 Рік тому +1

    Sure came in handy when my wife needed 4 holes in her glazed ceramic pot. Don’t use it often but it keeps me from going to the shop to get my Bosch corded hammer drill MOST of the time.

  • @deansigman6099
    @deansigman6099 Рік тому +1

    I use the hammer function often as a fiber technician. But I tend to use my m12 drill/driver for drilling most holes in wood and only pull out the m18 hammer drill when necessary..

  • @Justintimemetal
    @Justintimemetal Рік тому +1

    I work at a welding/fabrication shop that does some mechanical contracting and use my hammer drill frequently running anchors into concrete and block. I use my sds cordless when doing bigger wedge anchors but the hammer drill is awesome for smaller tasks that just use tapcons. I’m talking specific jobs where I may put in less than 10-20 tapcons on a jobsite.

  • @typhoontim125
    @typhoontim125 Рік тому +1

    The video and the comments are really interesting. I'm not in the trade, just a casual observer and occasional DIYer but great to listen to everyone's ideas and to see how the tool world is changing.

  • @grantdeisig1360
    @grantdeisig1360 Рік тому +4

    I rarely ever use the hammer function, this is true. But I do like having it when I am drilling into masonry. This is only because as a DIYer, I haven't purchased a dedicated rotary hammer yet. I have used the M18 rotary hammer, and it by far destroys the abilities of my hammer drill for sure. But it's just not worth it to me to go out and buy one when my hammer drill will get the job done, but slower. (much much slower)

  • @BrendonGillespie
    @BrendonGillespie Рік тому +23

    I think it depends on the person and what jobs they need to accomplish. Some people may prefer using a hammer drill over buying a SDS and all the specialized bits you would need. Maybe you already have a whole set of drill bits of different sizes that only fit into a chuck. Maybe an M18 hammer drill is just the right amount of power and size for the job. The installation driver may be under powered for what you need. That's the beauty of having many options, it caters to the individual. Thanks for the insight Vince!!

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  Рік тому +5

      Thank you BG

    • @edpoints1127
      @edpoints1127 Рік тому +3

      @@VCGConstructionNo, thank you Vince. That was a poor reply to BG. I'm 100% with him on this one. I own an sds and an sds max corded hammer drill. Only way to go if you're doing repetition drilling. My cordless rotary hammer is great for a lot of midsized jobs. That little hammer drill feature on the regular drill has saved the day close to 50x! Installing a septic drain field... The chain for the concrete cover needed to be affixed to the concrete tank structure. 2 - 1/4" concrete anchors. Come back the next day? No. Use the hammer drill feature, get it done and call it a day.
      Sudden rain and had to plastic up the window openings. We weren't the general, but it was the right thing to do. 8 tapcons were needed on 2 windows. You guessed it, hammer drill feature on the drill. Saved the day.
      Many more instances. I drill all my wood holes with it anyways. What are you saving? 10 ounces... probably not even that much. First time I'll say this, Vince don't dig so deep for content. SMH

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye 6 місяців тому

      @@edpoints1127 Milwaukee was probably seeing low rotary hammer sales that month, so called up Vince to convince people to spend money on tools they don't need.
      I do remodel construction. I have a rotary hammer. It mostly collects dust. My hammer drill is on every job and as you said, is the one that gets the job done quick and easy.
      Vince is over here pretending new construction commercial builders make up the majority of his viewership. Not even close. Most folks watching these videos aren't spending days on end, drilling big holes in concrete. I'm not hefting out a rotary hammer to drill a few holes in some stucco, brick, or even concrete - when all I have to do is flip a switch on my drill. It's hilarious that he talks about how "very heavy" a hammer drill is and then recommends a rotary hammer. What?!

  • @MrNightro
    @MrNightro Рік тому +2

    I'm an electrician in a hurricane-prone area so all houses & buildings are of concrete/block construction. While I do carry specialized drills for given tasks when I know what that task is beforehand, however, the hammer drill is my EDC which allows me to carry fewer tools to my basic call-out jobs.

  • @lilnoutje
    @lilnoutje 22 дні тому +1

    Thanks for another great video and not being scared of sharing a well-founded opinion!
    My first reaction was to disagree with your statement. As a DIY enthusiast and sort of amateur Jack of all trades, my experience with my hammer drill is beyond positive. Besides drilling into (hard) concrete, I'm able to perform all kinds of tasks with this versatile tool. I think I even don't mind the weight issue, while I'm often using 1.5 or 2aH batteries.
    However, nowadays I more often grab the more specialist tools when taking on bigger projects. When working all day on a renovation or any other type of project, it totally makes sense to be able to grab the specialist tool and switch tools to fit the needs. Why drill a hole with with your hammer drill and then switch bits to drive a screw into something?

  • @chuckmiller5763
    @chuckmiller5763 Рік тому +3

    When we need to drill a lot of holes in concrete, we get out our old corded SDS drill, If its just 1 or 2 , less than 1/2 inch, we will just use a cordless hammer drill. For SDS jobs, we always throw in another bit of some sort with each job we use it on, its a good way to get stocked up on bits.

  • @rich8037
    @rich8037 Рік тому

    A few months ago I would have argued with you, but since getting myself one of the Milwaukee M12 rotary hammers I can totally see where you are coming from. Small, lightweight, and does a MUCH better job of drilling concrete, brick and stone. And I've been using an impact driver for driving fasteners for years now, so really all I need from a drill is the ability to go round reasonably fast. I'm a DIY-er and odd-job-man. (PS I also have a huge line-powered SDS for really big jobs but in all honesty I hardly get it out of its box once a month.)

  • @nrsmith066
    @nrsmith066 Рік тому +2

    I mainly use my M18 for drilling wood up to 1"holes with auger bits, 4⅛ & 6⅜" holesaws, and the ¼" masonry bit on hammer mode.
    If I need bigger, deeper, or more, it's the SDS & HoleHawg all day.
    Otherwise it's my M12 impact or M18 impact.
    If I know I'll only need a couple small holes drilled, wood or fenceblock, I'm using the tiny M12 impact that fits almost anywhere

  • @hemi08911
    @hemi08911 5 місяців тому +1

    I learned this the hard way. I tried using my Bosch with a 6v battery to hammer holes in concrete/ masonry and was very disappointed in the failure of the tool. Luckily i had my trusty Makita corded Jammer drill to get the job done. The Bosch became my go to regular drill driver.

  • @J.Pelle87
    @J.Pelle87 Рік тому

    You're right Vince I recently purchased the m18 5/8 sds for the odd tapcons or door stopper (GC) and have the m18 fuel hammer drill that i dont touch anymore because the m12 fuel kit gets it done.

  • @epictrains4170
    @epictrains4170 Рік тому +1

    I have never used the hammer drill function on a drill/driver. I always go to the sds simply because it’s a lot faster. Especially when drilling large holes like 1/2” and 5/8” as we do for our pole sheds and the large anchors we use

  • @LordHog
    @LordHog Рік тому +2

    Vince, you are correct. This is why I strictly use Flaced tools

  • @joathansyvongsa601
    @joathansyvongsa601 5 місяців тому +1

    I ice fishing a lot and a hammer is a must to drill 8 to 10 inch holes I used a regular brushless without the hammer once and it struggles

  • @meagaindave2049
    @meagaindave2049 Рік тому +4

    Yo Vince! As a drywall punch out guy (for those who don't know what that means, sorry about your luck) the instant versatility of a hammer drill to drill/driver is priceless! One never knows when drilling into a slab one minute, then fastening track and studs into that slab the next minute, might be necessary. I swear by the hammer drill/driver. Though, these days, the installation drill is an awesome addition to a punch out person's arsenal. Thank you for the topic and God bless! 😁👍✌

  • @liamgrady962
    @liamgrady962 Рік тому +1

    I agree somewhat but impacts to me are for driving fasteners and drills are for borring holes i have the m12 sds anything id use that my m18 drill for ill use the sds masonry wise

  • @robertcampbell1343
    @robertcampbell1343 Рік тому +1

    Interesting point Vince. If it's a lot of driving, I use my bulldog. But for small little things, it's straight to the m18.

  • @vincentcloutieryes
    @vincentcloutieryes Рік тому +1

    You're absolutely right i use it a couple time and buy a rotary hammer, even a good hammer drill is really slow again a rotary hammer

  • @jasonbabila6006
    @jasonbabila6006 Рік тому +1

    I specifically use my impact drivers to drive screws and lags, my SDS Plus and Max to bore or drill through concrete and my drill to drill holes in wood and metals.

  • @GailsonPvPwtf
    @GailsonPvPwtf Рік тому +1

    I'm an electrician who works in residential new constructions. My impact fastens and my hammer drill makes holeys. Between my M12 impact and M18 hammer drill I can do anything. Using spade/augur bits on an impact is fine but if it hits a nail it will destroy the bit which my hammer drill wont do. it just stops.

  • @najaeporter3028
    @najaeporter3028 Рік тому +1

    Hammer drill does everything , I stand by it. I’ll bring out my SDS for maybe once in a while

  • @leataripledajaug
    @leataripledajaug Рік тому +1

    Been from Puerto Rico where 95% of the structures are made of concrete (yes, even roofs), you’ll even need a hammer drill to hang a framed picture on your wall lol

  • @kennethharman2779
    @kennethharman2779 Рік тому +1

    I use mine for tapcons and driving large timber and structural anchors, and it’s the best heavy duty drill for large holes 4” plus for duct work. Everything else impact or compact drill

  • @carloszambrano6177
    @carloszambrano6177 Рік тому +1

    Question what the best cordless hammer drill ? From Milwaukee

  • @YoungWhizz38
    @YoungWhizz38 3 місяці тому

    My M12 hammer drill saved me numerous of times when I’m hanging cabinets in condos on concrete walls. Although it’s not used often, It’s a great function to have when needed!

  • @Jaredman68
    @Jaredman68 Рік тому

    What hammer drills are you talking about? Like the SDS max and plus ones? Because I can see the hammer drill symbol on the drill you are holding while you are telling me not to get it but also get it?

  • @tylerfraker7716
    @tylerfraker7716 Рік тому

    Not sure if there’s any advantage to driving with a drill, but I haven’t used a drill/hammer drill to drive a fastener once since I got impact drivers. My professional use doesn’t really include much masonry so a hammer drill has been fine for my case. If I had a big job I’d probably get at least a cordless SDS though

  • @r8mli
    @r8mli Рік тому +1

    I see the value, for those that only need to drill 5/32 or 3/16 holes to put up panels or fixtures the Hammer Drill is perfect for those applications.

  • @RK_Insanityy
    @RK_Insanityy Рік тому +1

    I’m an electrical apprentice and I will say that yes you make a very good point BUT as you know, there’s always going to be that one or two times where you’re going to need a hammer drill so it just makes sense to spend the extra little $ to save yourself time in a pinch

  • @rsmith7292
    @rsmith7292 Рік тому

    I've been looking for a good SDS cordless to cover drilling into old concrete. The little "hammer drills" can't handle it. Thanks VCG! I find the hammer drills are okay for cinder block etc.

  • @pedrocoentro2009
    @pedrocoentro2009 2 місяці тому

    Right On, i´m a newbie DIY and a rotary for stone/cement and impact for screwing, love from Portugal

  • @lyleclark4554
    @lyleclark4554 Рік тому +1

    I carry a hammer drill and a rotary hammer. Sometimes the rotary is far too large to fit in some spots. Sometimes I don't want to lift a heavy ass rotary overhead for a couple hours at a time. Some anchors are so thin that a large bouncy rotary hammer will wallow out the hole as you drill and ruin the hole or force you to move your hole and change your layout when a hammer drill wouldn't. I run into this a lot with tapcons in particular. I'm an industrial mechanic by trade and have set 10's of thousands of anchors and have come to the conclusion that you need both to actually be efficient.

  • @rays2cents506
    @rays2cents506 Рік тому

    I have specialized tool in the van for bigger jobs, but I keep a few tools in my trunk like a hammer drill for small quick jobs. These are amazing for travel bags.

  • @gioyes5035
    @gioyes5035 Рік тому

    I carry my M12 Hammer Drill to go through Tile but stays inside the truck unless I need two drills and have one with the Drill Bit and Impact to screw

  • @jeromeharris5197
    @jeromeharris5197 Місяць тому +1

    As was mentioned - you will use the hammer drill function for tapcons, and drill less than a couple concrete holes. If you’re drilling more than a couple of concrete holes you’re going to want to use the rotary sds.. every tool serves a purpose and for lightweight concrete drilling and or concrete tapcon mounting ect.. the hammer drill is excellent!

  • @jkunz27
    @jkunz27 Рік тому

    I totally agree. When it came time to replace my trusty Dewalt 18v hammer drill, I went with the Milwaukee 2803 since by that time I had already purchased a rotary hammer and didn't see the need for a hammer drill anymore. BTW, the rotary hammer wipes the floor with any hammer drill!

  • @MosaicHomestead
    @MosaicHomestead Рік тому +4

    I rather have the specialized tools, hell, I have the specialized tools, but in a pinch, I rather have the rotary drill lol, my friend, everything is block and concrete here in Puerto Rico, if the drill doesn't have hammer on it to save my ass in a pinch, I don't want it lol

  • @destvit8605
    @destvit8605 Рік тому

    I think it's depends on the person and what kind of jobs his do. I have 4 of them and people like them.
    Question for you: do you now about wall sanders with vacuum pump like festool, Milwaukee will make it or no? Thank you.

  • @arbuckleworkshop9857
    @arbuckleworkshop9857 Рік тому +8

    Completely agree for wood working I use that installation driver 99% of the time and for work I use m12 impact or m12 hammer drill for a majority of the work the only true reason I even updated my m18 hammer drill is that’s the best tool to use with another specialty tool I got called a surewinder to wind garage door springs

  • @502deth
    @502deth Рік тому +2

    i cant say i completely agree, but you certainly do make some very valid points. i really cant argue anything you said, but sometimes ppl have different priorities and the trade offs are acceptable.

    • @typhoontim125
      @typhoontim125 Рік тому +1

      Vince certainly gets u thinking ...whether u agree or disagree.

  • @michaelterrace8692
    @michaelterrace8692 Рік тому

    Landlord/property manager here. Everyday is a different task. I’m not doing the same thing all day, so versatility is key. I’ll keep my hammer drill.

  • @tungsten8290
    @tungsten8290 5 місяців тому

    I'm a homeowner. I have larger 18V cordless handtools that include a hammerdrill, but have recently been adopting the Milwaukee M12 system for working on my cars. The M12 system is so lightweight and convenient that I've been using it for most things, and I'd go for that M12 multi-head installation driver before their compact hammerdrill for the exact reasons in this video.

  • @GranitePropServices
    @GranitePropServices Рік тому +1

    damn it Vince. I wanted to say you are wrong... but you're right.
    I just did (6) 5/16 holes to mount a TV in a cement wall today. I missed the rotary.

  • @BrockBenkula
    @BrockBenkula Рік тому +1

    As a electrician I think the hammer drill has its place, often times I’m hanging one or two boxes on a concrete slab and have to run conduit to those boxes. So I need to be able to drill 1/4” holes into concrete to put anchors in so I can mount my boxes and straps. Yes the rotary hammers are nice and I have a small one just for this stuff but Sometmes I’m parked far from where I’m working and if I’m only drilling like 4 holes it’s nice to have that function to save me time from walking back to my work van

  • @dallasmcnab3385
    @dallasmcnab3385 Рік тому

    I carry the M12 Hammer/Drill/Driver in my truck at all times. Maybe drill a dozen holes a year in masonry with it, but it saves me from not remembering to bring the large hammer drill or if I need to drill a hole in masonry I wasn't planning on.

  • @harleycyr9007
    @harleycyr9007 Рік тому

    I've been in the skilled piping trades for going on 15 years now. I can honestly say that I have absolutely zero use for the hammer function on a drill driver. Things like the Shockwave impact Duty attachments for Milwaukee allow you to check up an impact drill for most drilling applications your hole saws would be one of the few things where I would use an actual drill driver but never on the hammer function. And then when it comes to stuff like concrete I've never used a hammer drill, I've always used the SDS rotary hammer. What a waste of time the hammer drill would be. MUCH LOVE. great video

  • @Kittamaru
    @Kittamaru Рік тому

    Newish homeowner / learning diy'er here. For someone looking to minimize the number of tools being hauled around the house, wouldn't a hammer drill make sense? As a home user, I'm not going to be drilling multitudes of holes in masonry, but being able to put in the occasional Tapcon use helpful.

  • @joeclay9745
    @joeclay9745 Рік тому

    I agree vince. My impact driver I use the most following by SDS plus for concrete drilling and which I've got a chuck adapter for standard drilling of everything else

  • @josephabela1922
    @josephabela1922 Рік тому

    Well although what you are saying makes sense, and I do have different rotation hammers to rise to the occasion, however the gen 3 hammer drill is quite a useful all round tool compact and lightweight and I confess that in several occasions I will keep using the same tool just switching bits, like when drilling in gress tiles with proper diamond hole cutters and then once penetrated Use a regular concrete bit to drill into the bricks just like butter.

  • @1oddtech
    @1oddtech Рік тому

    I specifically bought a drill driver versus a complete combo kit just so I didn't have to worry about that hammer function.

  • @mrsammyalexander1
    @mrsammyalexander1 Рік тому +1

    As a multitrade. I'm always trying to streamline my kit. The standard box I carry now only has my M18 Fuel Impact Driver. I'd never drive screws with a hammer drill because the impact is so superior. And drilling with good impact compatible drill drill bits is also superior. There is a little more play in the bit, but that compensated for by less vibration were accuracy is concerned. Anything the impact can't drill out with a multimaterial bit on full speed is a job for the sds. The bit change is fast for instances where I'm drilling a countersink, then a plug hole, then driving the fastener. My hammer drill is obsolete. I'll probably replace it with an M12 impact. What would be useful is a clutched attachment for delicate work and drywall, but the trigger control is good enough for now.

  • @glassbottlegamersafterafec5605

    We have to use compact hamer drills for drilling through stainless steel at my job and a rotary hamers just to big for the freezer

  • @josephcontreras3321
    @josephcontreras3321 Рік тому

    Comes in handy when working with metal and machinery work

  • @danobee2953
    @danobee2953 Рік тому +1

    I would actually disagree. For residential contractors who do renovations, its just too versatile to pass up. Having a single tool that can mix small batches of mud/thinset and drill holes in masonry/tile is an absolute win. For the size of jobs we did, having dedicated solutions would have been massive overkill and, honestly, a waste of money.

  • @txvet7738
    @txvet7738 Рік тому

    You make a very valid point Vince! I agree with all of it!

  • @gordostrella5376
    @gordostrella5376 Рік тому

    Hey good morning from chicago.
    Any noise on the black Friday deals.
    Thank you

  • @jacobmccarty2347
    @jacobmccarty2347 Рік тому

    I am glad somebody has finally done a video like this

  • @bradycarlson6061
    @bradycarlson6061 Рік тому

    As a sparky I use the hammer drill for holes of any kind ever day. Rarely do I used the hammer function because I always use an SDS cuz it’s way better. But every now and then I’m in a pinch and need to throw in an anchor and don’t have the sds readily available and it’s nice to just use the hammer drill for a quick anchor or two.

  • @MyScenarios
    @MyScenarios Рік тому +1

    Starting out in the trades field it makes sense to use the hammer drill. Having no tools and starting to build up I prefer a 1 in all. As I get mo money I may go into lighter more expensive tools

  • @SciaticaDrums
    @SciaticaDrums Рік тому

    Yep! I recently broke out my Milwaukee corded hammer drill to make some holes for some wedge anchors to mount my mini-split. Went like a hot knife through butter, baby!

  • @bartholomewgreatpants3425
    @bartholomewgreatpants3425 Рік тому +3

    A jack of all trades may be a master of none but I'd rather a jack of all trades than a master of one.

  • @davidgeorge7664
    @davidgeorge7664 Рік тому +1

    Hammer drill works for me as a homeowner on a budget.

  • @akaredcrossbow
    @akaredcrossbow Рік тому +2

    I use a hammer drill all the time for everything and I always have masonry bits in my backpack at all times. I mostly use smaller masonry fasteners and I don’t have to make the extra trip to the truck to get a hammer drill, because I already have it. If I’m doing bigger holes in masonry then I go get my rotary hammer drill and drills.
    I would say that almost everyday I will use the hammer drill function at some point, it’s just the type of work I do.

    • @thetrutha2177
      @thetrutha2177 Рік тому

      It's better to have one versatile tool, than having to carry several different tools.

  • @jorgedominguez7092
    @jorgedominguez7092 Рік тому +1

    Just in time! I am already invested in the Bosch ecosystem. Planning to buy their cordless rotary hammer drill.

  • @alanmydland5210
    @alanmydland5210 Рік тому

    Vince u r so right, thank you

  • @MikeTheSith200
    @MikeTheSith200 Рік тому

    umm when i tried drilling holes into concrete for tapcons my regular brushless drill failed everytime. The hammer drill got the job done with no issue.

  • @Tools-Tested
    @Tools-Tested Рік тому +1

    Yep 110% That’s why separate tools are sold. Rotary hammer is the only way to go!

  • @samperi2468
    @samperi2468 Рік тому +3

    @VCG Vince I think @ToolReviewZone has a video using his hammer drill to hammer nails. whats up with that?

  • @adamtaylor2883
    @adamtaylor2883 6 місяців тому

    The only use for my hammer drill is I use it off hammer to mix plaster but on the odd job the Milwaukee m18 hammer drill does the job until I’ve got the sds

  • @gergemall
    @gergemall 11 місяців тому

    Many thanks for your video, very true.

  • @jporreca32
    @jporreca32 Рік тому +1

    Funny… I remember a time when someone on our jobs would get upset with the noise of the impact drivers and wanted us to use drills 😂😂😂

  • @CrimpingPebbles
    @CrimpingPebbles Рік тому +1

    Wait, Vince what about concrete bud? That’s pretty much the only reason I have mine in my bag but saves me taking the big guy of the truck for odd the of 1/4 inch hole for mushroom anchors and what’s not

  • @jasonhill9088
    @jasonhill9088 Рік тому +8

    As a mechanic I get the most use out of my M12 1/4 hex impact driver, than any other power tool. it's lighter & does about 85% of the work load. So I see where Vince is coming from. Not once, have I ever had to use the hammer function on my drill!

    • @jesse1136
      @jesse1136 Рік тому +1

      I have the drill and impact in 18v for work and 12v for home. The 12v models work on everything I would need them for at home and I'm confident it would handle my job, minus the capacity. I just don't like getting my home tools nasty.

  • @Lazysun-ws8bd
    @Lazysun-ws8bd Рік тому +1

    If u only want to drill a small hole in masonry , u need a hammer drill. The smallest SDS drill bit I have seen is 4mm