Debating Drake vs. Kendrick Battle - Disses, The Culture, How We Got Here & What's Next
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- Опубліковано 5 тра 2024
- Breaking down Drake vs. Kendrick, why they are beefing, how this battle started, why it got so messy and where it’s going to go in the near future.
Topics:
Why are Kendrick and Drake beefing
What sparked this battle?
Why does everybody hate Drake right now?
Do you need receipts in rap battle
How did Kendrick Lamar’s control verse affect Drake
Can Drake win this battle?
What caused this rap beef to be so messy?
Is there a line in rap beef?
Pannel:
Elliott Wilson
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Jeremy Hecht
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DJ Hed
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Directed & Produced by Steve Vasquez Jr.
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Edited by Clifton “CT” Tate
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Camera Operators:
Jordan Saint-Pierre
Clifton “CT” Tate
Technical Assistant & Operations by Alex Vasallo
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Sound Engineered by Avery Kentis
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Graphic Design by JR Martinez
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Production & Set-Up by Elise Ricks
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Produced by Steve Bramucci
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Executive Produced by Jarret Myer
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If Elliot never laughs again in an interview, that would be great
Pissing me the F*** off
Man....cringe worthy. I had somebody walk in the room and ask wtf is that??
@@Gifted1075 bruh. He like a nervous little girl
🎯 & no bullsh#t!! 😂🤣
I heard ppl call him the hip-hop Jimmy Fallon in terms of laughing at everything but honestly Elliot is a million times worse
Djhed is extremely intelligent, he knows when to respond, how to respond, when to speak, when it’s not required, opposed to others responding through nerves. The self control and self discipline is insane.
Shout out to you for recognizing that and articulating it that.
@@Imrockn27 D.J. Hed does show signs of being intellugent yet he is coming across as being a bit rude and annoying, plus what intelligent man called himself Hed?.
BIG FACTS!!!
DJ Hed frightens me, he just smiles throughout the whole interview because he knows these two bums don't know what they're talking about. DJ Hed definitely knows the scoop
DJ hed wasn’t having it with Elliot’s corny ish today😂
@@axa5005most parts 😂
Indeed DJ Hed was at times a bit irriated by Elliot however he didn't let it bother him he just kept doing his job and laughing, D.J. Hed was annoying me a bit with him being kind of confrontational towards Elliot. Plus D.J. Hed is coming across as a asshole in this interview.
that corporate shit gotta go
Y'all don't understand what HED is tryna tell y'all... This is not just a rap battle, its SPIRITUAL WARFARE.
If everyone understood that life is spiritual warfare, we would be in a better place as humans . Great perspective on this in particular 💪🏼
💯
I been saying this when it first started
The God-less can’t get it
...but the gag is...Kendrick is the Jezebel Spirit
How did Elliot not catch the seriousness of DJ HED throughout. Like this is past rap beef at this point.
The Hip-Hop community has spoken. If you don't believe it go outside. The greatest diss track wins. Not Like Us is an instant classic. It's bumpin everywhere.
Elliot is compromised.
As he should. Drake clowned him before
Drake killed Common?????
What???
That says a lot about these guys..
That surprised me too. How they fix they're mouth to say that one is beyond me.
This is how you know bias plays such a large part for some of the media. If you listened to stay scheming and thought it was better than commons response on the "remix" or "sweet"... I can not trust your ear and take... that's a go-go gadget/Mr. Fantastic/Monkey D Luffy Reach... I still say the "you Canada dry" line to this day.
I thought he lost to Common and Ludacris.
That "Canada Dry" line was epic...I don't remember common taking any L's
Somebody said it. Elliot and this other guy is so lost
DJhed explaining this perfect. Drake stepped over the family line. Kendrick gave him warnings not to. Then he went dirty. He stomping Drake out right now for overstepping the line. Don’t get caught up in the lies. Understand that this is apart of the game.
I think that’s the only angle that Drake thinks is scathing. I don’t think he is imaginative or a strong ENOUGH writer that can take certain angles like that.
Except Kendrick stepped over the line FIRST imo. Yes Drake did mention Whitney 1st but it wasn't disrespectful outside of just the fact he said her name. But even after that, on euphoria Kendrick said let's not get personal and to keep it friendly but later on in the very same song goes on to question drake’s parenting/fatherhood and how he's raising his son. That’s absolutely stepping over the family line especially after Kendrick just said let's not do that?
Facts!!!
@@PoohShimmy 🤦🏽♂️ did you not start from the begging of this beef? Pushups came before euphoria and quote these are lines from Drake. “Shit”ll probably change if his BM starts to kiss and tell” and “I be with some body guards like Whitney” … do the research first before stating anything about the beef.
@@DayDayBear14 I wouldn’t call that stepping over the line in anyway shape or form. But regardless Kendrick could’ve left it there after he said himself to keep it friendly and not personal but he chose to then go and question how drake was raising his son. That’s hypocritical af.
Damn I don’t know Elliot was basically an older DJ AK..even with how long winded he is..
Bruh really was hurt over the “you can’t say the n word” jawn😂.
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@iDewThis4Yu Drake is a Blackman who happen to have a Caucasian mother, as well as Elliot Wilson is a Blackman he can use the n-word.
I as a 44 years old Blackman only use the n-word when referring to our people who are contented in their ignorance or foolishness, however Drake has never made me cringe when he use the n-word he sound naturally when he says it and if he cant use the n-word then Kendrick shouldn't use the n-word.
The n-word is a racial hateful vile word not a slang word like Fat Joe once said foolishly.
“I don’t take shots, I don’t drink” wholetime Ak be on his live gettin drunk 😂😂😂 mannn y’all boys too slick with the entendres
Drake: Do you remember how the verse starts though?
Everyone: Them super powers gettin' neutralized, I can only watch in silence
The famous actor we once knew is lookin' paranoid, and now spiralin'...
The boy is not getting the bigger picture, it is deeper than rap now. It's not entertainment anymore.
DJhed Thanks for pushing line and not getting any of that Elliot zest on Ya.
I mean he's wearing Scorpion album
Elliot laugh pissing me tf off
He sounds like a hyena smh
Bruh like fr I started to actually feel anger …it’s cuz u know it’s fake
theres things that dj hed knows that he cannot expose being that he’s close friends with top dawg. but kendrick definitely has a crazy nuke up his sleeve that cannot be compromised. you can tell by the way hed is talking he knows about something
Elliot begging Drake after he dissed you 😂 get some integrity and take that jacket off g
Hed is so done lol. Mans already said-- Drake is not coming any harder against Kendrick because he cannot. He literally does not have the ability to do that
Why hasn't drake gone harder yet
Drake cannot outrap Kendrick
Kendrick can do what Drake does all day....Drake can Never do what Kendrick can do...
Elliott gotta stop laughing so much.
FUCKIN ANNOYING
This isn’t a battle of Kendrick vs drake. This is a battle of hip hop vs culture vultures and cultural appropriations with Kendrick being the main spokesperson of hip hop and drake being the face of cultural appropriation. This is what DJ Hed is saying.
only cause Drake half white?
@@otwaldschipper4363not at all. Kendrick even called Adonis a Black man. It’s because Drake doesn’t comment on black strife or ills within his music. Every “goat” has done so except Drake. Even Wayne has a clear couple socially conscious focused songs. Since 2009 Drake prolly has single digit amount of bars even directed towards that.
@@otwaldschipper4363 No. Hip hop is not a race, it’s a culture and anyone can be ingratiated into the Hip hop culture if they move the right way. Drake move like a snake and Kendrick is telling you about his snake moves but y’all not listening. The world thinks that it’s appalling to be hiding a child but it not appalling. If Drake has another child or a bunch of children so what! That’s his business. Public figures are allowed to have private lives but Drake sleeping with his mentors girl while he was in prison is a snake move. Grown men looking at young girls is more common than people think. It’s creepy af but sad to say it’s not uncommon. Drake running around behind the scenes filing cease and desist letters on people’s music is stopping how these people make money and that’s a snake move.
@@otterdonnelly9959Facts!
That part!!!! drake is not and has never been hip hop
Drake got picked apart. Dismantled. Verse for verse, bar for bar, line for line he can’t hang with Kendrick and or any real MC. Let alone Drake doesn’t write all his shit.
LOL DJ Hed staring into the camera moments are killing me 😂
STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR DRAKE!!!
It’s not that he’s “lil brothering” Kendrick.
Drake at some point, whether his camp said it or he felt it, at some point, the thought crossed his mind, the same feeling Ja-Rule said about 50,
Feels that he’s really on one and don’t have it for Kendrick and if Drake ain’t writing his own lyrics(allegedly)
That would be a MONUMENTAL win for Kendrick because NOT ONLY did he beat Drake,
He beat him AND his Ghostwriting team!!!
💯💯💯
Whole career this lame gets passes cuz they need that chewish relationship or feature. They wonder why the game messed up.
Kednrick the wife beater
Drake is way better than pipsqueak tf u saying
@@carlitoways01 😂😂😂
Elliot would not let DJ Hed get this off. Elliot kept saying Drake hasn"t came directly at Kendricc with bars. DJ Hed was trying to make the point that Drake has not gone there, because he is incapable of going there. Drake has been the chosen one by the industry. He's been protected by UMG. Sure he may have street dudes around him. Because of this protection Drake fully believes he's a boss. Kendricc is that guy. He grew up on the blocc. He did his dirt. The hood, any hood fuccs with Kendricc cuz he stands on business. There's no one in Drake's camp telling Drake he false flagging basically and to stop befo it goes left. i'm sure the narrative about the shooting at The Embassy will be spun by Drake to try to legitimize how G he living.
What do you think about this battle? Is this the greatest back and forth ever? Let us know all of your thoughts in the comments.
Editor's note: This was filmed a few hours before Drake dropped "The Heart Part 6"
Lil Buddy in the middle taking subs at Akademiks is nasty work
This is indeed the greatest back and forth in rap ever. From the build up to know, it's being covered by almost every major news station and I've seen a few even trying to breakdown bars lol. Whatever come after this drastically changes hip hop again.
I think Drake should STFU. I think Hed is trying to forewarn him.
Elliot keeps saying Drake doesnt see Kendrick as a worthy opponent. Thats not true. DJHed said it perfectly. Drake just does not have the lyrical capacity to spar with Kendrick, thats it. He also doesn't have enough info to even try to attempt to create a worthy diss record against him because Kendrick stays low and private.
Yea they fell for the master manipulator who included all these other dudes to hide the fact that he really had nothing to say to Kendrick smh and then him acting like Kendrick said light skin dudes can’t say nigga was super cringeworthy literally missing the absolute jewels dj he’s was dropping smh couldn’t even get through the interview because dude was trash
Ain’t no dam battle. It’s not a battle until Drake writes his own lyrics!!!
lol i feel you. It's insane after multiple GW exposals he wasn't put out...his stans are like it doesn't count when it's the pop record, everyone does it!
He didn’t even write back to back
True.
It’s a battle to prove who’s the better rapper / hip hop artist. Unfortunately in 2024 you don’t have to write your own lyrics to be a successful hip hop artist.
It wasn’t just LA wit that unified feeling
We was ridin thru the streets announcing every Kendrick update in Baltimore too
drake fans whole argument is he's the best because he sells the most records.
Like That: "Your best work is a lyt pack." Referrs to Drake's ghostwriter DAYLYT (battle rapper from LA). Claiming Drake's best stuff was made by Daylyt. --- Daylyt is responsible for most of Drake's biggest tracks.
Yep back to back and gods plans..and how u gonna have a ghostwriter on a battle track
GREAT FOR THE CULTURE 🏆
What is… 2 grown black men fighting? This culture is toxic asf!
@@preedestined1 if you actually listen to Kendrick, he’s just trying to be competitive. It’s part of the nature of this hip-hop. honestly Drake who’s taking a personal it should have never brought Family into this. What is the man supposed to do?
Elliott and Hed gave us great insights from an insider perspective. Jeremy gave them space and helped with the history lesson. Excellent show for the culture and the time 🏆
Glad you liked it!! More to come
Dj Hed summed the whole conversation “HE’S A HABITUAL LINE STEPPER”. Drake been doing this for years and getting away with it because of his Mob ties affiliation. I hear radio personalities saying Drake got jumped, this is not a fair fight. You want to act tough, talk shit and act like you’re untouchable then be a man and take the ass whooping when it’s handed to you. You’re not tough Aubrey you’re an actor/rapper that makes good music and DJ. Hed Is giving you free advice. Stop playing UNO with chess players.
You know how you go to a grocery store and the cashier ask if you want a receipt? But you say no... theres still a receipt out there...
Salute DJHed
I like DJHed man, real west coast nigga that can articulate hisself. He representing all of us well. West Coast.
Great convo. DJHed was very much needed for this convo. Thank you to Elliott Wilson for letting him cook.
Breath of fresh air watching DJHed call out all the “paid for language” from Elliot.
Elliott Wilson you are old enough to fucking know you don’t use the voice of Tupac on you songs using Ai without permission . Drake thinks he’s above all rules ❌
This beef was perfect. It got people to reflect on what is real Hip Hop.
Great breakdown and insights from actual figures in the culture. We need more of this. 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks for watching! More to come
Elliot gon ride for his boys. They need to edit the volume down for his giggles tho. It's loud AF
I agree with the giggles
But I don’t like the fact that people are just trolling him for running for a friend. He was as unbiased as possible in that position.
he gave you a few warnings Canadian Bro, you went for the Virginia/Whitney route again, you gonna ring on them, tell them they are fan girls, getting beat up, Dot child is with another man, they live separated and all that jazz, now deal with this Drizzy
My respect for DJHed has grown a lot today
Same
Another winner. Three smart critics talking hip hop without fanning the flames of controversy is exactly what the culture needs. There are way too many uninformed "critics" giving their hot take with no real cultural expertise. We need more of this!
“He lacks the wherewithal to understand the bigger picture” explains the zoomed in pic of the gloves for 6:16 in LA and zoomed out photo for meet the grahams
Big S/O DJ Hed and all of you! Need real OGs speaking on the culture! Not kids or vultures
Elliot laughs have so much context in them. Boy speaking’ laughanese fluently
EVERYBODY Drake went against that can RAP on the level of Pusha T and Kendrick, Drake LOST! So, NO Drake NEVER been in a rap battle he been in a radio friendly battle and there's a difference. I think intentionally and purposefully leaving out the fact that Drake DID NOT win all these "rap battles" while saying he's "battle tested" is disingenuous.
Great show! The J Cole assessment was fair! Hopefully Cole and Kdot r still friends and move on from this debacle!
glad people vibed with this!
Elliott can hear the difference, but is too scared to say drake changed ghost writers
For this to be the first iteration of this content it’s extremely well done 🔥👌🏾
This NEEDS to go viral because this conversation explains it ALL!!! This is Chess NOT Checkers!!!
Why Elliot speaking like Common never dropped Sweet though?😂😂😂
I understand the white boy riding for drake but homeboy in the Drake jacket is nut riding hard. Talking bout drake from the east coast. When he’s not even from the USA lol
Drake cannot rap with Kendrick, on any level. 6:16 proved that, Kendrick left EARTH.
Drake had 5 or more ghostwriters and still couldn’t match Kendrick’s verses or songs. Cmon lol
Kendrick is Culture
Kendrick is HipHop
Shout out DJ Hed very well spoken
Yall have to boost this better on social media.
Quote me directly. Don’t paraphrase my shit.
Elliott is very annoying and irrelevant in this interview. Hed was compelling.
This interview was amazing
Great convo
Was I the only one who noticed that the end of Euphoria, "We don't wanna hear you say N***a no more," is a nod to Kanye's "We don't wanna hear that weak shit no more," on the track "Get em High" Kendrick said it the same way.
I appreciate DJ Hed so much!!!!!!!!
Elliot Wilson might need to retire from Hip-Hop media for damn sure that Kamammy Harris cackle needs to go
19:54 'the art we gave you.. He gave you'... 😂😂😂 Hed is personally invested in this since the beginning
I like this pod because it asks questions that no one else is asking.
Got to admit Elliot had a good attitude taking Hed’s points, but Hed killed this discussion.
I don’t like that people keep saying he won against common. He used 4 bars and his popularity to beat common. Heavy on the popularity bc common really barred him down. He just used his four bars and popularity on a hit record so he didn’t have to go to war. Call that what it really was. If you say he won that say why he won that
DJ AM’s kick game is nice
These guys sound delusional drake is definitely rapping it’s just not better then Kendrick . And if he’s not giving a 100% he should have never stepped outside
Drake doesn’t WRITE. He can’t rap against a real emcee. Stop 🛑 gassing this Drake facade
Even Kanye and Ross have admitted on both video that drake has written hours for them
@@datstuff1002 its almost like they're trying to rewrite Drakes narrative!
Saying Drake didn't take the rap battle serious to explain why he lost is hilarious because in the same breath ya'll saying Family Matters is a great record. Drake spent 3 weeks taunting Kendrick online for a battle and because he lost ya'll claim he didn't take it serious. 😂 Ya'll gotta come up with better lies and excuses. Drake was prepared as prepared he could be and he LOST because he is no lyrical and strategy match for Kendrick just like he wasn't for Pusha T plain and simple.
He didn't take it seriously, what you said proved it lol.
DJhed explains it perfectly
Had to skip past the middle/end because Jesus Elliot just glazes over anyone
I like this dynamic. Please keep these going if possible. Adult hip hop conversations is needed.
It wasn’t just that one bar, it’s about what that bar says about Drake’s mentality, attitude toward, and understanding about racism.
Kendrick is a HUMAN true Hip Hop MC. Drake is CHARACTER Pop Rapper. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
Elliott is embarrassing New York right now. He didnt understand Culture. He is too old for this now.
Kdot felt the need to stand up for real hip hop
This battle shows that Drakes had music industry executives & behind the scenes ppl directing his movement & its way over due for him to be called out on his actions & he’s on top being a guest… he made the track Diplomatic Immunity thinking he’s untouchable when we all have seen & know anybody can get it!
Gosh couldn’t get through one cohesive thought or topic. It was all over the place I need the clips with just Hed and the Canadian dude. This was all over the place really wanted to hear what Hed had to say.
He's not going to win a rap battle against Kendrick Lamar. And NOT! Felt that!!!!!
My first time hearing DJ Hed speak on this or any topic but he is absolutely right! Drake is a guest in this HipHop rap shit… he got all the top Mc’s to show him love & vouchers just to burn those bridges with a blow torch & move to the next!
The battle is over! Why are we changing the rules and criteria to suit Drake. Insane!
cross promos! that's wassup
Rap Beef creating rap media unity
let's goooooo
YN THE 🐐
Drake was busy with the internet antics messages bloggers and podcasters, he thought this was him and meek beef back in 2015. The world caught on quick 😅😅 Kendrick stuck to the script and demolished drake with one single meme or comment lol
DJhed funny as hell lmao
Rest in peace BBL DRIZZY
I really hate Elliot laugh 🤣
I think what Kendrick took personal in First person shooter is Drakes first verse where he is dismissive of KDot when asking the girls who the Goat is. Also with everything we know now the “beat it” part of drakes final verse is a clear sub to Kendrick.
I think Drake is a master manipulator he knew Kendrick wouldn’t want to do a song with him. So Drake probably had Cole ask knowing Kendrick wouldn’t want to be on the song. So Drake and Cole do the record Drake takes his little shot in his first verse. But the final verse I’m sure J cole had no idea the “beat it” was a sub for DV allegations. That’s probably why Cole dropped out because that wouldn’t be something Cole would knowingly be apart of.
Elliot was caping hard for Drake the whole video acting like he didn’t understand why Kendrick went low after Drake went low first
hed running from that “we don’t trust you” question lol. he know damn well what they asking. we know damn well dot got on that record knowing the subject of that album
They put this out too early without the new Drake diss, but I'm sure the option would be the same because it wasn't creative. 😅
Don’t think the new track changed the conversation
@UPROXXVideo That's what I said lol. 😆 Kendrick Lamar should take the W and not reply, but I'm sure he won't.
Elliot, chill with the rahtid laughing, please. It is piercing my earbuds, respectfully. 😆
1:16:10 DJ Hed was cookin
Imagine ANY other sport where somebody does the work for you lol