57:07 Miller: "You don't go rushing into a room with your dick hanging out." Holden: "I get it! Alex, fly into the ring but do it ass first!!" Miller: "Wait..."
@@funnylilgalreacts FYI: The reason why the ship is going in ass first, is because it first made a lot of speed with the main drive, and then needed the main drive to slow itself down again. So it flipped halfway into the maneuver.
That hat was also an important clue in Julie's vision back in 1x09. More clues about Miller being a non-hallucination is that he keeps saying things that we heard him say on Ceres but that Holden never could have heard.
It could still be combination of an hallucination with an autosuggestion. The autosuggestion would be the part of your brain that tries to convince you not having an hallucination, because you don't remember the hat of that guy.
Also when Holden asks Miller what's up with the hat, Miller uses his keeps the rain off my head answer. If this was a hallucination, there's no way Holden would have imagined that was Miller's standard response.
He isn’t a hallucination because the Proto Molecule never knew Miller had the hat, Miller keeps saying he is the investigator and “They” keep killing and recreating the investigator. So….yea it’s actually him, even though it isn’t…but it is….
I can’t really pinpoint when it happens, but Amos going from “I don’t know why I would or wouldn’t kill out, except Naomi wouldn’t like it” with Holden in 1x2 to “Do what the Cap said” in 3x8 is my favorite. Amos and Holden are my dark horse favorite relationship in the series full of truly elevated relationships.
I think it was somewheret the time that Amos was beating the dude with canned chicken and Holden was holding Naomi back as she yelled at Amos to stop. I think this was also about the time that Amos had started to try making descisions on his own. While he never fully gives his coonscience control over to Holden the way he did to Naomi, he does see that Holden is always attempting to do the right thing and sees the wisdom in following his orders (of course, Holden makes some really terrible descisions, but I'm not sure Amos realizes that at this stage).
@@StarkRG Oh he realizes it, but Amos also knows that the world is shit. The only thing he is looking for is a person who tries to do the best - always. The one who struggles until he makes a decision. He saw Holden do selfless stuff, he saw Holden do the hard stuff (killing ship, allow a beating...) he saw Holden how he handles his own mistakes, he sees the struggle and the will to do better/ the right thing. That is all he needs, because than he he can do whatever is asked of him, because he knows someone already tried his best to point them in the right direction. Thats why he trusts Holden more than Naomi at one point, who acted selfish and without self reflection. This is his way how he just knows, that he is not on the wrong team. Just perfect for somone who can't tell what is moraly right or wrong because he lacks the emotional triggers to experience it in the moment and not just in hindsight. A functional psychopath so to say.
@@joelquinn5347 To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with you, but looking at it in another way, Amos might be seen as the moral center of the show. Amos's rejection of Naomi's actions is the most impactful. Amos decides that Prax shouldn't live with murder on his conscience, but also that Strickland deserves death, and takes that burden on himself. Amos judges that Holden is a good man and worthy of loyalty. It is his vote of confidence that convinces Alex to follow Holden's orders. This pattern becomes even more apparent in later seasons in a certain redemption arc (I don't want to get specific cause of spoilers). It is interesting to me that the "psychopath" who believes himself to be completely amoral so often seems to be the deciding vote on moral issues on the Roci.
I agree. The most realistic relationship. They are both so different But also they unite to Fight against the right things. They developed a fascinating relationship since season 1.
I think the key to Amos is that he's learned to see himself through the eyes of others - he knows he can't make moral judgements, and has trouble with empathy, but he uses moral lodestones like Naomi or Holden to judge himself. If he sees _them_ doing something he would, and he knows they would disapprove if _he_ did it, he tells them they shouldn't. It's actually kind of amazing - he found normalcy by accepting he wasn't.
Favorite part? Probably doors and corners. But on this rewatch I have to give honorable mentions to proto-miller grimacing and shaking his head like "I wouldn't..." when Holden tried to touch him
@@storyofm6820 Show is great dude, what are you here for otherwise? Are you just crushing on Angela so much you'll watch her love something you hate? lol... move along
@@storyofm6820 I'm...glad? Look, whoever you are, I don't care about your opinion of my opinion. I don't know what you are doing here pestering me on my comment, but can you please go do something productive?
7:20 - Mechanic, not engineer. Naomi is the engineer. 13:50 - Correct. 51:52 - It´s not the tooth. You´ll get more info on that later. And...got to say, wow, you´re probably the most perceptive reactor to this show i´ve seen! Surely by now you´ve already seen the next episode, so you know what prompted my compliment (which isn´t limited to this particular instance). ;)
Totally aggree with you. However the attention to details is not as excessive in my humble opinion. I remember the reactor Zygart who had to stop the vid every time a screen with text on it was shown to investigate and read it. That was ... interesting :)
@@lutzheckmann5093 I’m not a reactor but I did that. Every time there was something on one of those pads or written somewhere I had to pause and try to read it. I just finished the series so now I have to go read the books
Poor Maneo. Upstaged by Holden again. Wonder if Maneo’s ex will start sending Holden thirsty DMs… Also, respect the show so much for not ending on the trite cliffhanger. They could have cut on Holden’s order to fly into the Ring, or on the Roci going through. But everyone knows that there’s a next episode, so that wouldn’t really be a cliffhanger, and instead they tease what’s on the other side. You’re left with much more of a wtf than “will the main cast be chunky marinara?!” because you kinda know the answer to that one. Much more interesting to ask “how aren’t they?”
The intense feeling that you had at the end there? Be ready to feel that feeling after each episode from now on. Except, now you have to multiply that feeling...
Waiting a week for each episode when it was released was painful. But then I was late to B5 and watched it when it had gotten to season 3. My housemate had recorded every episode and I binge watched it over one night so kinda glad they released season 3 here weekly. I absolutely would have watched it all in one go.
My favourite part is all of "Proto Miller", but the first moment when he switches from just repeating lines we've already heard to actually noticing Holden and responding to him. It always sends chills, it's like watching a movie when the character on the screen turns and looks at you, and responds. And of course how he describes how they kill the investigator over and over. What a horrible fate, but it also allows a first glimpse into what's actually happening.
As someone who had been watching expanse reaction videos since the pandemic, Your ability to pick up small details and characters motivations and progression is honestly up there with the big guys like Blindwave, Niki and Steven and the Normies. Love your reactions and insights so so much. Cant wait to see your channel grow, your personality and intelligence is something we subscribers really look forward to.
Love Xander's comment..... Another brilliant episode, and one of my favourites. The way it builds throughout and then delivers all the emotion and panic at the end. It was so brilliantly acted and directed
Last episode was when we learned that SyFy had no plans to renew The Expanse for another season. The quality of this episode only highlighted how insane that decision was. Shortly after we learned that our show was saved.
The fact of the matter is, SyFy wasn't making the show, they were only distributing it. They had a deal with the independent studio that was actually making it, and the deal was just a really bad one for SyFy. I believe they were in a bidding war initially and simply overbid what they could afford and then foolishly tried to make it work but never were going to be able to. So it's hard to blame them for choosing not to renew, but it is completely their fault for signing such an unsustainable deal to begin with. They didn't opt out because of the quality of the show. It was strictly business. SyFy's costs were too high.
Wow. Your predictions are far more accurate than any reactor I've seen. You have surprised me a couple of times, I'm impressed. You're doing a great job, keep it up.❤
Donkeyballs. That's just fun to say and fun to hear you say it. I adore watching your reactions to this show. I don't normally get personal in comments, but tonight has been a super shitty night, my sister had a seizure and is laying in a ICU room possibly brain dead and there is nothing I can do. Also my niece, who is developedly disabled is being asked to make hard discussions for her. And I'm just sitting here drinking, alot, I needed this distraction. Thank you. Xander the editor, she says you make her look good, yet since you are an awesome editor, you take her high points and bring them out. Great job. Angela, you bring so much intensity into this show. I watched it twice on my own but watching it with you is so much better. Again I totally ship you and Amos.
Miller's story aboyut 'doors and corners' and the Grigia brothel is the proto-Miller using fragments of Miller to communiate with Holden using the bits and pieces it has access to. The story is relevant becuase you don't 'rush in'. It is a truly elegant bit of storytelling and I love it. Also, how fucking WHOLESOME is that momemt with Amos offering to listen to Holden's problems? Why aren't young boys taght that this is how you treat your friends? More heathly masculinity, please. Also, "You looked at the cCap's autodoc logs? Man, that is a serius breach of trust! ...so, what did they say?" AHAHAHA
Ashford interrupting and stepping over Drummer's authority is a brilliant moment. As much as it rubs everyone off the wrong way, it was the right thing to do. Had he let her finish her sentence, she would have been committed to it. You can't say one thing as the captain and then be less severe when someone else does end up breaking the rules again, and chances were someone eventually would.
Absolutely. It's the mark of a good XO: sometimes you have to reign in your CO in public, and you have to do it in a way that affirms their authority, instead of undercutting it.
They don't really go into it in the show, but the thing Melba is triggering is a switch/button implanted in her hard palate. She is pressing her tongue against it. The clunk/clack noise is it being pushed.
My fav part? so hard to choose, but probably that epic last scene in the Airlock with blue lit Miller and Holden - "Doors and corners, Go into a room too fast kid, the room... eats you" 2nd - Probably Drummer where she decided to fire on the Rocinate, so tense and you know its just killing her to hurt Naomi that way, but Drummer is a Belter to her core, hard, pragmatic, emotional and look after your crew first.
fav part? "When I exceed my boundary conditions, that's when they kill me.. we're tools". To say that with glimpse of own consciousness, in a stream what a protomolecule is using you for, that's some Lovecraftian cosmic horror right there....
omg, what an episode and what a reaction! epic and chef's kiss! And wow, you predicted so much stuff, I am impressed, most went right over my head, first time round. This episode... S3E6 is peak TV for me with some of the greatest moments ever, then you get this one and over all I think it exceeds it? Such a roller coaster. Thats all for me now, going to rewatch your reaction :)
sorry I love your enthusiasm as I love this show and the source material too but in my opinion comments like "you predicted so much" is as good as a spoiler.
Woohoooo! :) Regarding Melba's teeth, I don't think she's actually breaking something but more has something she can "click" without doing it accidentally. In the books she does it by circling her tongue 3 times on the roof of her mouth but I guess that wouldn't have worked well on screen because it would hardly be visible.
What i really like about the tension in the final part is that you understand the different motivations behind the characters. Ashfords suggestion does make sense from his point of view. It's nothing personal against the rocinante, but instead about not having the other forces turn on the belt. Drummer understands that. If she couldn't see that, i don't think she would've made that decision
Actually, you are correct to say UN. UN = United Nations, same basically as it is (was) in the 21st century except that now it is the government that runs most* of earth. UNN = United Nations Navy, the military branch that runs Earth's space program. So it's correct to say that the mission to the ring is run by the UN. The Thomas Prince is a UNN vessel, but Anna and the other civilians on it are there as representatives of the UN, not the navy. *The show doesn't mention it at all and the books only touch on it, but there are apparently some parts of earth that are independent of the UN. But the United Nations runs the vast majority of the planet.
"There's doors and corners kid. If you don't clear the room, if you don't come in slow, the room'll eat ya." First time I watched I did not understand.
Klaes Ashford -- _'The _*_Ghost Knife_*_ of Calisto'_ -- is one of the most (( in my Peanut Gallery opinion )) subtly complex characters of the series. And I swear I'm *NOT* spoiling -- _and _*_won't_*_ spoil!_ -- but... give him time. (( wayyyy ))Down the road, most likely you'll grit your teeth... _for_ him.
My favorite part: I'm pretty sure that Holden never saw Miller in The Hat. It's hilarious to me that since Proto-Miller is formed from his own memories he's in The Hat and Holden calls him out on it. Like you did! Great episode, great reaction, great dental knowledge...could it be a button that goes click when it's pressed? I don't know...watching this as you release, as always. Xander...👍 Angela...❤️
@@putinscat1208 that works. I think you're saying what I'm trying to get across. It isn't Miller, but the building blocks of what it is come from his memories. It is definitely the proto-molecule.
I love how self aware Amos is. He knows his judgement and skillset is skewed, and he never claims to be what he isn't. Folks like that deserve a better start.
Man this episode is peek television for me the amount of attachment we have for these characters make us stress so hard over the last few minutes of this episode its just brilliant brilliant stuff
Ange...your crazy theories......I just got brain matter all over me. Seriously, it's so much fun watching someone else watch this show for the first time and becoming just as obsessed as I was, when a friend told me I needed to watch The Expanse. She knew what she was doing. I was texting her after every episode with "Wow!" and "I knew it!" The Expanse just might be the perfect show.
13:15 One thing I really love about the Belter culture is their respect for free decision-making. They may express their disagreement without any restraint, but they seem to hesitate to stand in each other's way, even if they think someone else is making a mistake, as long as it's not a direct threat to everybody. It's a very respectable attitude and I think very believable as a cultural adaptation to living in such a hostile environment, forcing everybody to live in such tight quarters, constantly needing to cooperate at a high level to maintain those fragile quarters against that environment while not able to keep anybody's nose out of everybody's business, since there's just no room.
14:07 that moment when you go to the dentist and she starts speaking Belter :))) btw, Ashford is one of my favorite characters. I have a feeling you'll get love him by the end.
Every time a reactor sees the credit roll up and has the "WTF" expression in their face. I'm thinking welcome to our world 😆. Except we had to wait 7 days while they're lucky to find out in 5 seconds.
I appreciate you saying that you'll watch the next episode. I was in such agony having to wait for episodes to drop. Since I didn't want anything spoiled, I waited until the end to read the books.
I remember first time watching this episode. I HAD to play next one immediately, the ending was so mind bending and stopping an intense climax. Great reaction!
Miller is walking a fine line. Like what he said about exceeding parameters and not remembering talking to Holden before, HE hadn't talked to Holden before another version of him had. Miller was broke down and used for parts, the Protomolecule needed an investigator so it made one from what it had... a washed up, ex cop that got stuck in it's teeth.
Keep in mind Miller had gotten rid of his hat by the time he met Holden. Holden has never saw Miller wearing his hat. This is why he asks, "What's with the hat?" It's hard to tell what she's doing in the show but in the book it says that Melba circles her tongue on the roof of her mouth to activate the rush.
That would not be as apparent on a TV show. My interpretation has been that she has a molar that is a switch to trigger it. We are, as movie-goers, familiar with the trope of having a fake tooth (cyanide capsule, etc).
"They all have very solid points" - That's one of the things I love about this show: Even if you don't like what somebody is doing, &/or don't agree with it - You can see the point from their side & understand/know why they are doing it.
I was away for 2 weeks (vacation in Florida yay) and when I come back you stepped up your video timeline divisions big time. Your reactions were already so good but somehow you keep improving them! Will def come for Patreon in the future.
I know the novella “The Churn” digs into Amos’ backstory (I haven’t read it). My understanding of it comes from the show. As I understood it, back in Season 2 when Amos beat up the chicken guy and then told Prax what “bullies” like him do with people like Prax’s little girl… I took that as Amos indirectly telling Prax what *he* suffered in his childhood. “He’s a bully. And where I come from, bullies take desperate young girls like your daughter and force them into prostitution. And when they finally get knocked up, they peddle them to johns who get off on that. After they have the kid, they push them right back out on the streets even before they have a chance to heal. *And those kids…they use them, too.* Some people deserve to be punished.” As horrific as it is, all the pieces fit. It explains why he’s so broken. It explains his protectiveness towards kids, why he wanted to leave Earth. Again, I haven’t read the novella, but that was the impression I got from season 2.
There is a whole chapter in the books explaining exactly what Melba’s “false tooth” thing was and how she got it. In the show, they eventually explain it a little.
Actually, your comment about entering the ring backwards is ... a factor I hadn't thought of. Because if they decelerate suddenly, at least it's INTO the crash chairs, which are designed to take and distribute that force.
Under breath cough " I was right!" LOL Loved your awesome reaction!! And Xander's comment about your crazy theories made me burst out laughing! The tension built in this one was amazing! You are so smart and correct about there are no wasted lines or scenes in this show! Looking forward to the next one!
“-it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out- One hundred and thirteen times a second, nothing answers and it reaches out. It is not conscious, though parts of it are. There are structures within it that were once separate organisms; aboriginal, evolved, and complex. It is designed to improvise, to use what is there and then move on. Good enough is good enough, and so the artifacts are ignored or adapted. The conscious parts try to make sense of the reaching out. Try to interpret it.”
5:00 I'm probably mistaken but my take was that the Venus protomolecule took apart the Arboghast like an exploded diagram to understand spaceships in order to complete The Work. Then the Katoa protomolecule hybrid took apart the nurse like an exploded diagram to understand how humans work and what from them would be useful for The Work (not realising that it can't put a human back together again like it could've with the Arboghast).
I understand wanting to watch the next episode. When this came out I hated having to wait for a week to see what came next. Such good story telling, character development and acting.
Oh man, favorite part is those last 10 minutes, hands down. Cracked egg for a head, eh? You know what I'm gonna say, so I won't say it... There is one episode with an end credit scene you should watch, and this is not a spoiler... the season 5 finale. In the book, Melba activates whatever it is she's activating by making 2 circles on the roof of her mouth with her tongue but the show needed something we could see and hear, so that's why it seems like a tooth. No breaking of teeth involved. Poor Holden just can't get a damn break, can he? Just last episode he was making jokes about donuts and now here he is being a shit magnet again. It cracks me the f up how often your theories are spot on correct and how often you predict lines people say. Not all the time but you've got a better than average percentage.
💜💜💜your reactions are soooo good! The Roci’s legal issues have to do with the ship being “legitimate salvage” and Mars having…a different opinion. If you’re interested in some limited series, I’d love to see your reactions to Station Eleven or Midnight Mass.
The investigator is Miller. He says "we're tools". The thing reaches out and nobody answers and creates the investigator to find the aswers, and destroys the investigator when it exceeds its boundaries, and builds it again and deletes him again and builds it again....
Kinda busy today so haven't finished watching your intro and probably can't watch the rest till this evening but did skim your titles. The last one. *chefs kiss* Perfection. I found the perspective of that shot hard to make out. I'm guessing you didn't have that issue.
Can add this now it's now longer a spoiler. Most of Millers lines are quotes from earlier seasons, most before Holden ever met him. It's trying things looking for a response from Holden. Holden has also never seen the hat he left it behind on Ceres back when he was a detective. That was a clue that it wasn't just a hallucination.
Melba is not biting down on anything. In the book, she is described as drawing a circle on the roof of her mouth with her tongue and the actor did her best to repeat that action and that is what you are seeing. I would say more, however, I don't want to give any spoilers.
This show has an amazing ability to end every episode with a cliffhanger. And just when you think they cant get more amazing, it goes and tops itself every damn episode, every damn season!
And the good kind of cliffhangers, where you get some answers, and you're then left to wonder what that will lead to. Unlike the cliffhangers that ends before any answers
The more that Naomi is immersed in Belter culture the more pronounced her accent becomes in that she is speaking Creole, like a bilingual child's use of the family language is more evident when they are at home than when they are away.
People often talk about a great slow build of tension which I do enjoy. The last few moments of this episode demonstrate the sudden and rapid acceleration of surprise tension in its last few minutes.
The answer to is Miller a memory is in the episode if you think about it? I’m sure you will get it you are really good at spotting and working things out.
That cliffhanger ending though! This is only gonna get better from now on, just you wait! Amos was much more animated in this episode than usual which is nice, Holden going nuts and seeing Miller.... I can't wait for the next episodes!
I don't know if anyone else has brought it up yet, but you should definitely add the Netflix series "Dark" to your list for the next series. It's in German but is almost equal to the Expanse for depth of story and a completely different type of sci-fi. 3 seasons. Your love of analyzing everything and trying to figure out what's going to happen makes this the PERFECT series for you...but you're gonna need a big notebook!
If you go back and look at the opener that you avoided, there seems to be a small probe moving at slow speed through the ring. It appears that the ring ignored very slow objects, but came to life and blocked an extremely fast object. It seems to cooperate with ships moving in at a "Goldilocks" velocity. I don't think the Protomolecule operates as a matter (generally) as reactions to actions, but that it's always been doing its "Work" with very little regard to what humans are doing, except for evaluating them for their usefulness to its "Work" and preventing them from interfering with it. I think all the parts are doing the same thing as they can wherever they are, so while the motherlode was disassembling the Arbogast, Katoa was disassembling his nurse. It regards everything in its environment as a resource for its own use. I do think Amos had to wear pumps at some point when he was young. Those pedophiles he knows so much about. Martians are very, very petty. So that's why they're still nattering about the Roci. They're just very petty. They won't let go of a bone. For a bit of background, Melba Koh is one of a number of contracted maintenance personnel for the UN fleet who are authorized to move from ship to ship...which is handy for her. Anna noticed that Melba appeared to need to talk to someone...as a minister, that's Anna's job and much of the reason she's there. What we get from Miller's jabber: The Loca Griega is running an unlicensed brothel. If it were licensed, the cops would know about it. But because it's unlicensed, they have to send an investigator to check it out. The Protomolecule has built what appears to be a gate. It's been "reaching out" but nothing happens. So it's created an investigator to find out why. In that last scene, the missile had a purple glow on its leading end, but the Roci did not. The purple glow has a meaning. Your attempts to connect everything are fruitful.
57:07
Miller: "You don't go rushing into a room with your dick hanging out."
Holden: "I get it! Alex, fly into the ring but do it ass first!!"
Miller: "Wait..."
I see no flaws with this ASSessment
@@funnylilgalreacts FYI: The reason why the ship is going in ass first, is because it first made a lot of speed with the main drive, and then needed the main drive to slow itself down again. So it flipped halfway into the maneuver.
@@Konradius001 Yup. Most scenes with ships show them moving ass-forwards. :)
Remember, they are near Uranus!
😂😂😂😂😂
Holden never saw Miller wearing a hat, he had left it on Ceres. Which is why Miller can't be a hallucination.
Yes! A lot of people miss that, even me initially.
That hat was also an important clue in Julie's vision back in 1x09.
More clues about Miller being a non-hallucination is that he keeps saying things that we heard him say on Ceres but that Holden never could have heard.
It could still be combination of an hallucination with an autosuggestion. The autosuggestion would be the part of your brain that tries to convince you not having an hallucination, because you don't remember the hat of that guy.
Also when Holden asks Miller what's up with the hat, Miller uses his keeps the rain off my head answer. If this was a hallucination, there's no way Holden would have imagined that was Miller's standard response.
He isn’t a hallucination because the Proto Molecule never knew Miller had the hat, Miller keeps saying he is the investigator and “They” keep killing and recreating the investigator. So….yea it’s actually him, even though it isn’t…but it is….
I love Thomas Jane's delivery of 'the room will EAT you'
I love his delivery of everything.
ProtoMiller is... amazingly thought out, amazingly written, amazingly acted...
My favorite Thomas Jane lines in this episode are, "we're tools."
And," Don't go into a room with your dick hanging out."
He "NAILS" those lines 😁
@Scott Dorfler it’s VERY Miller
I can’t really pinpoint when it happens, but Amos going from “I don’t know why I would or wouldn’t kill out, except Naomi wouldn’t like it” with Holden in 1x2 to “Do what the Cap said” in 3x8 is my favorite.
Amos and Holden are my dark horse favorite relationship in the series full of truly elevated relationships.
I think it was somewheret the time that Amos was beating the dude with canned chicken and Holden was holding Naomi back as she yelled at Amos to stop. I think this was also about the time that Amos had started to try making descisions on his own. While he never fully gives his coonscience control over to Holden the way he did to Naomi, he does see that Holden is always attempting to do the right thing and sees the wisdom in following his orders (of course, Holden makes some really terrible descisions, but I'm not sure Amos realizes that at this stage).
@@StarkRG Oh he realizes it, but Amos also knows that the world is shit. The only thing he is looking for is a person who tries to do the best - always. The one who struggles until he makes a decision. He saw Holden do selfless stuff, he saw Holden do the hard stuff (killing ship, allow a beating...) he saw Holden how he handles his own mistakes, he sees the struggle and the will to do better/ the right thing. That is all he needs, because than he he can do whatever is asked of him, because he knows someone already tried his best to point them in the right direction. Thats why he trusts Holden more than Naomi at one point, who acted selfish and without self reflection. This is his way how he just knows, that he is not on the wrong team. Just perfect for somone who can't tell what is moraly right or wrong because he lacks the emotional triggers to experience it in the moment and not just in hindsight. A functional psychopath so to say.
@@joelquinn5347 To be clear, I'm not disagreeing with you, but looking at it in another way, Amos might be seen as the moral center of the show. Amos's rejection of Naomi's actions is the most impactful. Amos decides that Prax shouldn't live with murder on his conscience, but also that Strickland deserves death, and takes that burden on himself. Amos judges that Holden is a good man and worthy of loyalty. It is his vote of confidence that convinces Alex to follow Holden's orders. This pattern becomes even more apparent in later seasons in a certain redemption arc (I don't want to get specific cause of spoilers). It is interesting to me that the "psychopath" who believes himself to be completely amoral so often seems to be the deciding vote on moral issues on the Roci.
I agree. The most realistic relationship. They are both so different But also they unite to Fight against the right things. They developed a fascinating relationship since season 1.
I think the key to Amos is that he's learned to see himself through the eyes of others - he knows he can't make moral judgements, and has trouble with empathy, but he uses moral lodestones like Naomi or Holden to judge himself. If he sees _them_ doing something he would, and he knows they would disapprove if _he_ did it, he tells them they shouldn't. It's actually kind of amazing - he found normalcy by accepting he wasn't.
Favorite part? Probably doors and corners. But on this rewatch I have to give honorable mentions to proto-miller grimacing and shaking his head like "I wouldn't..." when Holden tried to touch him
@@storyofm6820 tell me your parents are blood related without telling me your parents are blood related
@@storyofm6820 Show is great dude, what are you here for otherwise? Are you just crushing on Angela so much you'll watch her love something you hate? lol... move along
@@storyofm6820 I'm...glad? Look, whoever you are, I don't care about your opinion of my opinion. I don't know what you are doing here pestering me on my comment, but can you please go do something productive?
@@storyofm6820 you recommend something better?
@@SETHthegodofchaos theyre just an attention seeking troll
"Angela and her craaaaaazy theories..."
Xander, you're awesome. XD
Indeed.
7:20 - Mechanic, not engineer. Naomi is the engineer.
13:50 - Correct.
51:52 - It´s not the tooth. You´ll get more info on that later.
And...got to say, wow, you´re probably the most perceptive reactor to this show i´ve seen! Surely by now you´ve already seen the next episode, so you know what prompted my compliment (which isn´t limited to this particular instance). ;)
Totally aggree with you. However the attention to details is not as excessive in my humble opinion. I remember the reactor Zygart who had to stop the vid every time a screen with text on it was shown to investigate and read it. That was ... interesting :)
@@lutzheckmann5093 What happened to him? Still no S6 reaction..
@@lutzheckmann5093 I’m not a reactor but I did that. Every time there was something on one of those pads or written somewhere I had to pause and try to read it. I just finished the series so now I have to go read the books
@@crystalfire5564 some joe Schmoe would freeze and read every screen.
Important note: Bobbie *was* on Mars, but she’s with the Martian fleet at the ring now. That’s why she can talk to Alex in real time.
Ashford and Drummer’s relationship interaction is some of the best storyline ever written. Ashford is one of my favourite characters in the series.
TV Ashford is so much more than Book Ashford, and I am all about it. (But Drummer is rightly the bigger role)
@@jaredragland4707 I agree but drummer is so much more than in the books too.
Poor Maneo. Upstaged by Holden again. Wonder if Maneo’s ex will start sending Holden thirsty DMs…
Also, respect the show so much for not ending on the trite cliffhanger. They could have cut on Holden’s order to fly into the Ring, or on the Roci going through. But everyone knows that there’s a next episode, so that wouldn’t really be a cliffhanger, and instead they tease what’s on the other side. You’re left with much more of a wtf than “will the main cast be chunky marinara?!” because you kinda know the answer to that one. Much more interesting to ask “how aren’t they?”
The intense feeling that you had at the end there?
Be ready to feel that feeling after each episode from now on. Except, now you have to multiply that feeling...
"I'm going to watch the next episode..."
Now I'm curious how many episodes we'll see this shirt...
🤣 imagine if it's the same outfit for the rest of the season. I don't think I could stop.
@@ImAlsoMerobiba That was my wife and I
We only need to worry if funnygirl starts packing a diaper and a beer or rosé hat
😂
Waiting a week for each episode when it was released was painful. But then I was late to B5 and watched it when it had gotten to season 3. My housemate had recorded every episode and I binge watched it over one night so kinda glad they released season 3 here weekly. I absolutely would have watched it all in one go.
My favourite part is all of "Proto Miller", but the first moment when he switches from just repeating lines we've already heard to actually noticing Holden and responding to him. It always sends chills, it's like watching a movie when the character on the screen turns and looks at you, and responds.
And of course how he describes how they kill the investigator over and over. What a horrible fate, but it also allows a first glimpse into what's actually happening.
As someone who had been watching expanse reaction videos since the pandemic, Your ability to pick up small details and characters motivations and progression is honestly up there with the big guys like Blindwave, Niki and Steven and the Normies. Love your reactions and insights so so much. Cant wait to see your channel grow, your personality and intelligence is something we subscribers really look forward to.
Love Xander's comment.....
Another brilliant episode, and one of my favourites. The way it builds throughout and then delivers all the emotion and panic at the end. It was so brilliantly acted and directed
"ProtoMiller" - nice :)
Thomas Jane's performance was phenomenal! Loved the glitchy face effect, too.
It's ...significant... that Holden hadn't ever seen Miller with that hat prior to that moment. Hence the "what's with the stupid hat" comment.
God, this is one of my favorite episodes.
SAME. It had so much happen and I loved every morsel of it.
@@storyofm6820 Why are you here?
@@storyofm6820 No really why are you here?
Last episode was when we learned that SyFy had no plans to renew The Expanse for another season. The quality of this episode only highlighted how insane that decision was. Shortly after we learned that our show was saved.
Even though it was a relatively short time before we knew has been saved by another network, at the time it seemed like forever to me.
The fact of the matter is, SyFy wasn't making the show, they were only distributing it. They had a deal with the independent studio that was actually making it, and the deal was just a really bad one for SyFy. I believe they were in a bidding war initially and simply overbid what they could afford and then foolishly tried to make it work but never were going to be able to. So it's hard to blame them for choosing not to renew, but it is completely their fault for signing such an unsustainable deal to begin with. They didn't opt out because of the quality of the show. It was strictly business. SyFy's costs were too high.
@@fakecubed that is definitely true. But it’s still so much fun to blame them.
Interesting point, Holden never saw Miller's hat
Wow. Your predictions are far more accurate than any reactor I've seen. You have surprised me a couple of times, I'm impressed. You're doing a great job, keep it up.❤
Donkeyballs. That's just fun to say and fun to hear you say it.
I adore watching your reactions to this show.
I don't normally get personal in comments, but tonight has been a super shitty night, my sister had a seizure and is laying in a ICU room possibly brain dead and there is nothing I can do. Also my niece, who is developedly disabled is being asked to make hard discussions for her. And I'm just sitting here drinking, alot, I needed this distraction. Thank you.
Xander the editor, she says you make her look good, yet since you are an awesome editor, you take her high points and bring them out. Great job.
Angela, you bring so much intensity into this show. I watched it twice on my own but watching it with you is so much better. Again I totally ship you and Amos.
Miller's story aboyut 'doors and corners' and the Grigia brothel is the proto-Miller using fragments of Miller to communiate with Holden using the bits and pieces it has access to. The story is relevant becuase you don't 'rush in'. It is a truly elegant bit of storytelling and I love it.
Also, how fucking WHOLESOME is that momemt with Amos offering to listen to Holden's problems? Why aren't young boys taght that this is how you treat your friends? More heathly masculinity, please.
Also, "You looked at the cCap's autodoc logs? Man, that is a serius breach of trust! ...so, what did they say?" AHAHAHA
Ashford interrupting and stepping over Drummer's authority is a brilliant moment. As much as it rubs everyone off the wrong way, it was the right thing to do. Had he let her finish her sentence, she would have been committed to it. You can't say one thing as the captain and then be less severe when someone else does end up breaking the rules again, and chances were someone eventually would.
Absolutely. It's the mark of a good XO: sometimes you have to reign in your CO in public, and you have to do it in a way that affirms their authority, instead of undercutting it.
They don't really go into it in the show, but the thing Melba is triggering is a switch/button implanted in her hard palate. She is pressing her tongue against it. The clunk/clack noise is it being pushed.
I have no idea how you aren't binging this immediately. I was up all night at this point trying to get through the story even though I had work.
She's admitted to watching some episodes immediately after the last. I can't blame her or anybody. The 7 day wait used to be excruciating.
My fav part? so hard to choose, but probably that epic last scene in the Airlock with blue lit Miller and Holden - "Doors and corners, Go into a room too fast kid, the room... eats you"
2nd - Probably Drummer where she decided to fire on the Rocinate, so tense and you know its just killing her to hurt Naomi that way, but Drummer is a Belter to her core, hard, pragmatic, emotional and look after your crew first.
Work now hate me later.
@@Matisaro Exactly
@@blackpaw29 drummer changes easily make the show better than the books imho.
@@Matisaro Agree, like the books, but I love the show.
fav part? "When I exceed my boundary conditions, that's when they kill me.. we're tools". To say that with glimpse of own consciousness, in a stream what a protomolecule is using you for, that's some Lovecraftian cosmic horror right there....
26:55 After shooting this scene, Steven later went up to the author/showrunner and said (in reference to the actress) "She is fucking terrifying"
omg, what an episode and what a reaction! epic and chef's kiss!
And wow, you predicted so much stuff, I am impressed, most went right over my head, first time round.
This episode... S3E6 is peak TV for me with some of the greatest moments ever, then you get this one and over all I think it exceeds it? Such a roller coaster. Thats all for me now, going to rewatch your reaction :)
There's a lot of 'this is best ever' and then 'holy sh*, THIS is best over' over and over. ;)
@@wtimmins Ain't that the truth! S3 is a masterclass in ramping up the odds while keeping a plot that makes sense.
sorry I love your enthusiasm as I love this show and the source material too but in my opinion comments like "you predicted so much" is as good as a spoiler.
@@dylanmonaghan3342 well, her predictions came true during the episode, so doesn't seem like a spoiler to me
This episode is epic on so many levels
Woohoooo! :)
Regarding Melba's teeth, I don't think she's actually breaking something but more has something she can "click" without doing it accidentally. In the books she does it by circling her tongue 3 times on the roof of her mouth but I guess that wouldn't have worked well on screen because it would hardly be visible.
My favorite title of the whole series; so innocuous, yet so loaded in context.
That final “you go into a room” quote has been my text message alert since about a month after this episode first aired
I still say that line all the time. "Doors and corners...."
What i really like about the tension in the final part is that you understand the different motivations behind the characters.
Ashfords suggestion does make sense from his point of view. It's nothing personal against the rocinante, but instead about not having the other forces turn on the belt.
Drummer understands that. If she couldn't see that, i don't think she would've made that decision
OMG You're Team Holen now! Welcome and I am so excited for you. Everything else you said...
I love the "Oh FUCK NO they didn't just end it there." when these episodes end on these cliff hangers. I remember those feels oh so well.
And this is what hooked me to reaction channels. so nice to find a genuine one like yours.
Actually, you are correct to say UN. UN = United Nations, same basically as it is (was) in the 21st century except that now it is the government that runs most* of earth. UNN = United Nations Navy, the military branch that runs Earth's space program. So it's correct to say that the mission to the ring is run by the UN. The Thomas Prince is a UNN vessel, but Anna and the other civilians on it are there as representatives of the UN, not the navy.
*The show doesn't mention it at all and the books only touch on it, but there are apparently some parts of earth that are independent of the UN. But the United Nations runs the vast majority of the planet.
"There's doors and corners kid. If you don't clear the room, if you don't come in slow, the room'll eat ya."
First time I watched I did not understand.
I will never get tired of you talking about the ring near Uranus
Klaes Ashford -- _'The _*_Ghost Knife_*_ of Calisto'_ -- is one of the most (( in my Peanut Gallery opinion )) subtly complex characters of the series. And I swear I'm *NOT* spoiling -- _and _*_won't_*_ spoil!_ -- but... give him time.
(( wayyyy ))Down the road, most likely you'll grit your teeth... _for_ him.
Doors and corners kid, doors and corners.
I was a fan of The Expanse from the start, but the back half of season 3 is when I got super into it. These are the Expanse reactions that I watch.
My favorite part:
I'm pretty sure that Holden never saw Miller in The Hat. It's hilarious to me that since Proto-Miller is formed from his own memories he's in The Hat and Holden calls him out on it. Like you did!
Great episode, great reaction, great dental knowledge...could it be a button that goes click when it's pressed? I don't know...watching this as you release, as always.
Xander...👍
Angela...❤️
@@putinscat1208 that works. I think you're saying what I'm trying to get across. It isn't Miller, but the building blocks of what it is come from his memories. It is definitely the proto-molecule.
@@putinscat1208 have not seen "Oh God". I see what you are saying.
"Captain! May I have a word?"
"In a minute."
"The Protomolecule will break all the rules" So anything is possible.
I love how self aware Amos is. He knows his judgement and skillset is skewed, and he never claims to be what he isn't. Folks like that deserve a better start.
Man this episode is peek television for me the amount of attachment we have for these characters make us stress so hard over the last few minutes of this episode its just brilliant brilliant stuff
Ange...your crazy theories......I just got brain matter all over me.
Seriously, it's so much fun watching someone else watch this show for the first time and becoming just as obsessed as I was, when a friend told me I needed to watch The Expanse. She knew what she was doing. I was texting her after every episode with "Wow!" and "I knew it!" The Expanse just might be the perfect show.
😂🤣 Just spent five minutes trying make Google tell me what is a dentalist before turning on CC and realizing what was said was "dental assistant".
13:15 One thing I really love about the Belter culture is their respect for free decision-making. They may express their disagreement without any restraint, but they seem to hesitate to stand in each other's way, even if they think someone else is making a mistake, as long as it's not a direct threat to everybody. It's a very respectable attitude and I think very believable as a cultural adaptation to living in such a hostile environment, forcing everybody to live in such tight quarters, constantly needing to cooperate at a high level to maintain those fragile quarters against that environment while not able to keep anybody's nose out of everybody's business, since there's just no room.
14:07 that moment when you go to the dentist and she starts speaking Belter :)))
btw, Ashford is one of my favorite characters. I have a feeling you'll get love him by the end.
Every time a reactor sees the credit roll up and has the "WTF" expression in their face. I'm thinking welcome to our world 😆. Except we had to wait 7 days while they're lucky to find out in 5 seconds.
I knew you’d lose your mind in this episode but I wasn’t expecting THIS! Hahaha you’re the best.
I appreciate you saying that you'll watch the next episode. I was in such agony having to wait for episodes to drop. Since I didn't want anything spoiled, I waited until the end to read the books.
Great reaction, reflection and perception @funnylilgalreacts!
I remember first time watching this episode. I HAD to play next one immediately, the ending was so mind bending and stopping an intense climax. Great reaction!
Well... I had to wait whole week... to air. Imagine that.
You nailed soooo many things on this episode. Well deserved bow
"I have brain matter all over me" - i love that quote
It's great getting to see this again through your eyes. Especially knowing everything that you are asking about, lol
Miller is walking a fine line. Like what he said about exceeding parameters and not remembering talking to Holden before, HE hadn't talked to Holden before another version of him had. Miller was broke down and used for parts, the Protomolecule needed an investigator so it made one from what it had... a washed up, ex cop that got stuck in it's teeth.
A masterclass in deductive reasoning! Enjoyable to share. Can't wait for you to learn more. Ah.. Melba 😁
Love the titles of your bookmarked sections 🙂
Keep in mind Miller had gotten rid of his hat by the time he met Holden. Holden has never saw Miller wearing his hat. This is why he asks, "What's with the hat?"
It's hard to tell what she's doing in the show but in the book it says that Melba circles her tongue on the roof of her mouth to activate the rush.
That would not be as apparent on a TV show. My interpretation has been that she has a molar that is a switch to trigger it.
We are, as movie-goers, familiar with the trope of having a fake tooth (cyanide capsule, etc).
"They all have very solid points" - That's one of the things I love about this show: Even if you don't like what somebody is doing, &/or don't agree with it - You can see the point from their side & understand/know why they are doing it.
every time miller speaks in this episode it is a quote that he says before he dies
I was away for 2 weeks (vacation in Florida yay) and when I come back you stepped up your video timeline divisions big time. Your reactions were already so good but somehow you keep improving them! Will def come for Patreon in the future.
Awww thanks!!!
I know the novella “The Churn” digs into Amos’ backstory (I haven’t read it). My understanding of it comes from the show.
As I understood it, back in Season 2 when Amos beat up the chicken guy and then told Prax what “bullies” like him do with people like Prax’s little girl… I took that as Amos indirectly telling Prax what *he* suffered in his childhood.
“He’s a bully. And where I come from, bullies take desperate young girls like your daughter and force them into prostitution. And when they finally get knocked up, they peddle them to johns who get off on that. After they have the kid, they push them right back out on the streets even before they have a chance to heal. *And those kids…they use them, too.* Some people deserve to be punished.”
As horrific as it is, all the pieces fit. It explains why he’s so broken. It explains his protectiveness towards kids, why he wanted to leave Earth. Again, I haven’t read the novella, but that was the impression I got from season 2.
Yes, I believe Amos was describing his own life and observances.
There is a whole chapter in the books explaining exactly what Melba’s “false tooth” thing was and how she got it. In the show, they eventually explain it a little.
Gotta watch the next two cause damn. I LOVE your reactions.
Actually, your comment about entering the ring backwards is ... a factor I hadn't thought of.
Because if they decelerate suddenly, at least it's INTO the crash chairs, which are designed to take and distribute that force.
Under breath cough " I was right!" LOL
Loved your awesome reaction!! And Xander's comment about your crazy theories made me burst out laughing!
The tension built in this one was amazing! You are so smart and correct about there are no wasted lines or scenes in this show!
Looking forward to the next one!
“-it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out it reaches out- One hundred and thirteen times a second, nothing answers and it reaches out. It is not conscious, though parts of it are. There are structures within it that were once separate organisms; aboriginal, evolved, and complex. It is designed to improvise, to use what is there and then move on. Good enough is good enough, and so the artifacts are ignored or adapted. The conscious parts try to make sense of the reaching out. Try to interpret it.”
5:00 I'm probably mistaken but my take was that the Venus protomolecule took apart the Arboghast like an exploded diagram to understand spaceships in order to complete The Work. Then the Katoa protomolecule hybrid took apart the nurse like an exploded diagram to understand how humans work and what from them would be useful for The Work (not realising that it can't put a human back together again like it could've with the Arboghast).
I understand wanting to watch the next episode. When this came out I hated having to wait for a week to see what came next. Such good story telling, character development and acting.
I like your theories. I am really enjoying your reactions!
Oh man, favorite part is those last 10 minutes, hands down.
Cracked egg for a head, eh? You know what I'm gonna say, so I won't say it...
There is one episode with an end credit scene you should watch, and this is not a spoiler... the season 5 finale.
In the book, Melba activates whatever it is she's activating by making 2 circles on the roof of her mouth with her tongue but the show needed something we could see and hear, so that's why it seems like a tooth. No breaking of teeth involved.
Poor Holden just can't get a damn break, can he? Just last episode he was making jokes about donuts and now here he is being a shit magnet again.
It cracks me the f up how often your theories are spot on correct and how often you predict lines people say. Not all the time but you've got a better than average percentage.
Sure you don't mean the S6 finale?
💜💜💜your reactions are soooo good! The Roci’s legal issues have to do with the ship being “legitimate salvage” and Mars having…a different opinion.
If you’re interested in some limited series, I’d love to see your reactions to Station Eleven or Midnight Mass.
The investigator is Miller. He says "we're tools". The thing reaches out and nobody answers and creates the investigator to find the aswers, and destroys the investigator when it exceeds its boundaries, and builds it again and deletes him again and builds it again....
Kinda busy today so haven't finished watching your intro and probably can't watch the rest till this evening but did skim your titles. The last one. *chefs kiss* Perfection.
I found the perspective of that shot hard to make out. I'm guessing you didn't have that issue.
When Drummer says,"I was really drunk at the time." Every time it reminds me of Dark Side of the Moon.
Look closely at the curvature of the ring in the final shot. The Roci was slowing down and the missile was speeding up.
Can add this now it's now longer a spoiler. Most of Millers lines are quotes from earlier seasons, most before Holden ever met him. It's trying things looking for a response from Holden. Holden has also never seen the hat he left it behind on Ceres back when he was a detective. That was a clue that it wasn't just a hallucination.
The casting is damn good on this show, as you noticed lolllll
It reaches out. It reaches out. It reaches out. 113 times a second...
Melba is not biting down on anything. In the book, she is described as drawing a circle on the roof of her mouth with her tongue and the actor did her best to repeat that action and that is what you are seeing. I would say more, however, I don't want to give any spoilers.
This show has an amazing ability to end every episode with a cliffhanger. And just when you think they cant get more amazing, it goes and tops itself every damn episode, every damn season!
And the good kind of cliffhangers, where you get some answers, and you're then left to wonder what that will lead to. Unlike the cliffhangers that ends before any answers
The more that Naomi is immersed in Belter culture the more pronounced her accent becomes in that she is speaking Creole, like a bilingual child's use of the family language is more evident when they are at home than when they are away.
Great reaction! I’m so impatient I want more reactions now! LOL
People often talk about a great slow build of tension which I do enjoy. The last few moments of this episode demonstrate the sudden and rapid acceleration of surprise tension in its last few minutes.
The answer to is Miller a memory is in the episode if you think about it? I’m sure you will get it you are really good at spotting and working things out.
Almost everything Proto-Miller says makes total sense on a rewatch of the series... Excellent writing.
"It's not a tumor!" 🤣 Sorry, just an appropriate line from Kindergarten Cop.
"I'm probably going to watch the next one", hehe. I think the rest of the season will test your self control after each episode. Lol.
Omg I have to leave on vacation to actually stop 😂
That cliffhanger ending though! This is only gonna get better from now on, just you wait! Amos was much more animated in this episode than usual which is nice, Holden going nuts and seeing Miller.... I can't wait for the next episodes!
I know this video is old but I love how Miller and The Investigator were made distinct - that had to have been hard to translate from the books
I don't know if anyone else has brought it up yet, but you should definitely add the Netflix series "Dark" to your list for the next series. It's in German but is almost equal to the Expanse for depth of story and a completely different type of sci-fi. 3 seasons. Your love of analyzing everything and trying to figure out what's going to happen makes this the PERFECT series for you...but you're gonna need a big notebook!
"What's with the stupid hat?" Underrated line.
RE 2:00 Because I'm a child I have to point it out, are you asking if the ring past Uranus is exit only?
If you go back and look at the opener that you avoided, there seems to be a small probe moving at slow speed through the ring. It appears that the ring ignored very slow objects, but came to life and blocked an extremely fast object. It seems to cooperate with ships moving in at a "Goldilocks" velocity.
I don't think the Protomolecule operates as a matter (generally) as reactions to actions, but that it's always been doing its "Work" with very little regard to what humans are doing, except for evaluating them for their usefulness to its "Work" and preventing them from interfering with it. I think all the parts are doing the same thing as they can wherever they are, so while the motherlode was disassembling the Arbogast, Katoa was disassembling his nurse. It regards everything in its environment as a resource for its own use.
I do think Amos had to wear pumps at some point when he was young. Those pedophiles he knows so much about.
Martians are very, very petty. So that's why they're still nattering about the Roci. They're just very petty. They won't let go of a bone.
For a bit of background, Melba Koh is one of a number of contracted maintenance personnel for the UN fleet who are authorized to move from ship to ship...which is handy for her. Anna noticed that Melba appeared to need to talk to someone...as a minister, that's Anna's job and much of the reason she's there.
What we get from Miller's jabber: The Loca Griega is running an unlicensed brothel. If it were licensed, the cops would know about it. But because it's unlicensed, they have to send an investigator to check it out. The Protomolecule has built what appears to be a gate. It's been "reaching out" but nothing happens. So it's created an investigator to find out why.
In that last scene, the missile had a purple glow on its leading end, but the Roci did not. The purple glow has a meaning.
Your attempts to connect everything are fruitful.
OH! Video review suggestion for the upcoming Halloween: The Final Destination series, or at least 1 and 2. 2 may or may not involve a dental hygienist