After Holden pushed the button on the phone and Fred's like, "That's really how you go through life, isn't it?" is one of my favorite little moments in this entire series 🙂
Yeah, this whole odyssey he's been on goes back to him clicking on the recycling bin of the Canterbury's comm logs to listen to the Scopuli's distress call. Just can't help himself.
"Now if it goes to Earth, one, Amos is on Earth..." What I immediately see in my head: Asteroid: *approaches Earth* Amos: You might want to rethink that. Asteroid: *turns around* 😁
I think the key to Amos' story arc is that he keeps meeting new people who teach him things about what it means to be human, good and bad, which reshapes his moral compass. At this point, he's finally in a position to become the teacher.
yep she should know by now that this show makes us hate lote of character just to make us love them so much. Just look at ashford, altough i loved the character he was kind of a cunt and i was rooting for drummer in s3. And look how that ended up.
I love this show does that to so many characters. I can’t count the number of times people hated Miller, Bobby, Ashford, Peaches and Fillip only to love them by season 6’s finale.
Wes Chatham's delivery was perfect in Amos's conversation with Charles. Amos at first unsure why or how he's upset him, trying to reach for something Naomi or Holden would say, deciding tea is probably safe because Charles brought it up, and finally back on ground he knew with "Stop packing." Back in season 1, I'm not sure Amos could have navigated that by himself.
Erich in the books also has a deformed limb (and undocumented street rats generally can't get proper healthcare dealing with things like that). Jacob Mundell (the actor) was specifically cast, and he's great. To clarify his brief exposition of their shared past - they both worked for Amos Burton the mob boss (Erich was a data-forger, Timothy an enforcer) and developed a bro-ship in that time. For details on how that all ended up, read "The Churn". Also, Frankie Faison (Lydia's apartment-mate) keeps appearing as a Baltimore resident in stuff, aka Commissioner Ervin from The Wire! And for the hat trick - he played Barney the orderly in the Silence of the Lambs, overseeing Hannibal Lecter in the mental institution...located in Baltimore.
@@BraveSirPaul Me too. It was a fascinating bit of casting. Jacob Mundell is a fine actor, and his condition (and Erich's) has nothing to do with the plot, it's just a tidy bit of world-building. I love that the script calls no attention to it. It's just a part of who he is. Another great example of how the Expanse handles diversity SO WELL!
I imagine a young Mr. Faison becoming an actor, and going, "now I'll be able to explore many facets of the human experience, in many different worlds". Then many years later, on getting cast in a science fiction show "Finally now I can finally.....(reads script).......Baltimore, huh. Sigh".
@@putinscat1208 he was a monster he wouldn't be crying and sharing his feelings of people like he does he would just be fucking killing people. He's obviously broken but he's not a monster, he's what hurts monsters
@@putinscat1208 I mean he's an extreme version of the average person put put through trauma. You're judging him by your terms it's our judging him by the world that he's in in the future that he's in he is a goddamn Saint compared to a lot of people. In a universe where people want to blow up entire planets just because they don't like earthers,, somebody who beats up bad people is not exactly a bad guy
If you'd read the books and seen the grief Clarissa was exposed to when she realized what she'd done, you'd like her more. She was a terrible, terrible person for the same reason Amos was -the horrific abuse she suffered as a child. It's why Amos was so instrumental in helping her survive. He normally doesn't give a shit about adults, but he recognized her pain. At some point in the books, there's a twenty year jump forward in time, and I think Clarissa was a member of the Rocinante for all that time, but we never got to experience it. I bitterly regret that and hold out a faint hope that the writers may fill that time gap someday.
Avasarala had two sons, the one who was in the military and died named Charanpal and a daughter named Ashanti. In the first season appears Avasarala with her grandson who is one of the two kids of Ashanti.
I haven't watched any of your videos before, so it's perhaps strange that I started on season 5 episode 2. But I'm going to go back to the beginning and start from there, because you definitely have one of the more perceptive and insightful commentaries I've seen (of any series). And more than this, your empathy for the characters is clearly testament to your empathy for others in real life. It's a beautiful thing, and we could use more of that amidst the horrors of the world these days. Keep up the great work.
Dan and Ty as writers is always great stuff BUT you should always get excited when you see Breck Eisner directing. He was our go-to, effectively in-house director who pushed us with Hollywood energy to eke out every dollar we could to put it onscreen. Dan, Ty, Breck, and Jeremy Benning were easily the A-Team of the show. They pushed the crew to the limit in the very best ways (though some might have disagreed on certain nights). We had those who kept them in check (such as the mighty Lewin Webb, the supervising producer AKA pit boss on set). And I could go down a list of unsung heroes. Anyway, I digress. Breck Eisner wanted every shot to be meaningful and kinetic or dynamic in service of the story. So, when see those oners, tracking shots, or whip-pans that make the show feel alive, you're probably watching a Breck Eisner episode. Occasionally, his enthusiasm got the better of him (there's a funny pre-viz story I'll only ever tell in person) or left us bone-tired but, ultimately, he delivered. As these last two seasons play out, if you see his name, strap in. Because the juice is coming.
Side note: When I knew Frankie Faison (THE WIRE, THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, LUKE CAGE) was going to be on set, I was giddy. Never got the chance to meet him but, wow. That man is as solid an actor as they come and, to me, a legend of the screen. One of my few regrets was never getting to chat with him. To just be in his presence would have been an honour of my career.
This episode actually helps explain the whole Amos-Peaches thing that is irking you so badly - he is going to attempt to play Lydia to her Timothy. They are damaged for different reasons, but Amos does recognise the pain that drives Clarissa, and is willing to offer her help with it. Not many others would, or could, do that.
14:10 That first scene into Baltimore is one continuous shot. The camera was flown in on a helicopter, then got passed over to a crane, and finally to a cameraman on the ground. It's an amazing shot.
One of the most powerful episodes in the series - not for the action, but for the realisation just how much one of our favourite characters has developed. It also fills in a lot of the points that have been touched on about his history Definitely recommend reading the short story "The Churn"
And when you read "The Churn," you'll get a bit of information...it may seem unpleasant, but don't judge...about why Amos might have a "thing" for Avasarala.
Amos is one of the best written characters ever. The slow reveal of his story as he evolves from his introduction through each season is amazing. I never thought he would be my favorite character.... but he is.
26:39 Literally *every* screenwriter needs to watch that exchange. The perfect example of how you provide exposition for the audience while still keeping your characters believable.
In the original short story "The Churn", Lydia is described as being middle eastern/Persian. Just like Avasarala. In that story, Amos and Lydias relationship was also sexual (inappropriate in normal society, but not for them in their insane lives in Baltimores criminal world). So when Amos hits on Avasarala on Luna in the last episode, he isn't just flirting. He is legit attracted to Avasarala, most likely because she reminds him of Lydia.
I'm not sure Erich is literally Amos's biological brother. Amos calls the guys on the Roci "brother" all the time. I think it's just his preferred term of endearment to men he's close with.
@23:50 "Aw. Kindness you don't expect from Amos" - Guys who get hurt a lot tend to learn about what needs doing after a hurt but yeah, he has definitely picked up a few things during this show Baltimore in this reminds me of my hometown during the 80's when I was growing up in the North of England. Lot of kids my age didn't get the best of starts. Lot of the guys joined-up to get out like I did, a lot of the girls had babies too young, a lot of the others died from everything from joyriding to drugs. Rough way to grow up
This season, and this episode, really encapsulate why Amos is one of my favourite characters in fiction. His conversation with Charles has so much going on. Also, the actor for Erich is a very nice guy, and super appreciative of the fandom. He even followed me back on Twitter!
Every season feels like a different show with the same people because every season is a different genre. It’s one of the things that makes The Expanse special. The fact it remains so consistent and cohesive when playing with genre each season is a remarkable achievement. And it keeps the show fresh year over year.
No, he isn't related to Erich. He just meant they were tight once. None of Amos' (Timmy's) blood relatives have been shown. And the Timshel tattoo is Wes' tattoo, not Amos'. It means 'thou mayest' in Hebrew. Hope this helps.
A couple of things to stout out about- That camera shot entering Baltimore was one camera shot, the camera went from a helicopter flying over, passed to a crane then to a person to walk through the crowd. Finally can we all praise Wes Chatham, in preparation for playing the role of Amos he went to physiologists specializing in child abuse victims and adult victims of child abuse even visiting some in prison to understand the mind set of Amos and how he would react, and has used that knowledge since S1E1
Fun fact Drummer is really an amalgamation of 3 characters from the books. The characters story from the books that we first met Drummer as was Bull. The character who's story she has this season was Michio Pa in the books, who we also see this season as a member of her crew.
Making sure Charles had a home is standard Amos. Stroking Charles' arm and telling him tea would be nice is emotional growth for him, something we didn't really expect to see out of someone so battered by his childhood.
Fun fact about the "Bull" character you don't like. He had a fairly large role in the earlier books, but in the show they gave most of his story and development to Drummer. Show Drummer is an amalgamation of book Bull, book Michio Pa and book Samara Rosenberg. I think Drummer appeared in books, but in a tiny role. Both Bull and Michio Pa appeared in the show from season 5, but both in much smaller role than they had in the books. Michio Pa is one of the girls on Drummer's ship now.
There’s a certain irony of Drummer’s first time as a named character first in book 6, while Bull doesn’t become a named character until season 6 of the show. Dammit, Rob C beat me to it
Oh my gosh, the 15 seconds that it took for Angela to realize and process that possibility was worth the price of admission! That was my favorite part of this entire reaction! 🤣
Wow that's awesome that someone with a similar appearance got the part. I thought it was CGI or prosthetic. In the novella, Erich has an injured arm and they go a bit more detail about it.
I really love Jacob's role in the episode and his performance and I really really wanna see him in more stuff. Wish they covered more of the Churn so we could see more Erich.
Bull is actually one of the book characters that show Drummer is an amalgamation of. He's the one who jumps down the elevator shaft with grenades to stop the OPA (Diogo) at the end of Book 3.
The reveal about Amos as a boy gutted me. Being a survivor of S.A., I couldn't keep it together, even though it was brought up so casually. Amos was already a favorite (no surprise there), but this made me feel actually connected to him.
If you rewatch season one episode one when Avasarala's grandson throws a water balloon at her while she is in front of the mirror she makes a comment about the fact that she can give him back to his mother to deal with after she gets him to wound up running around the house so the daughter was definitely inferred.
@@funnylilgalreactsThat is a valid point... I am someone who read the books and it was laid out a bit more plainly if I remember correctly so it was never something I gave a lot of thought to when I watched the series.
Amos Burton : There you go. Now you just walk around like you're in pumps. Chrisjen Avasarala : How do you know what it's like to walk around in pumps? Amos Burton : I didn't always work in space. A very funny exchange if you've seen through season 2. A very not funny exchange if you've seen through season 5.
I just got done rewatching your reactions to 4x10 and 5x01 and was fixing to go to bed and then BOOM! You drop this one! And it's an important one. It's personal. That tattoo on Amos's arm is actually a tattoo on Wes's arm in real life. I loved your reaction Angela very much. Your emotional reaction was perfect. Thank you for being this invested in our beloved show. I can't talk more about this one because it's....... difficult. Looking forward to the next one!
@@putinscat1208 Nice try? How that point came about is immaterial to the actual fact that without her actions humanity would have been destroyed. Plus her malicious actions caused them the realize that there is a speed limit in the ring area sooner than later. All she did was hasten mankind's entry into the gate. They would have ended up eventually in the same place and scenario without her. Mars, Earth, Belters and no violence would have gone on past the ring triggering the danger to mankind without Clarissa's actions? GTFO.
@@putinscat1208 I am pretty much done with you since you are arguing against points that I didn't make. Not worth my time. Never argue with the clueless, ignorant, and trolls.
Your comment about his tattoo, this is why I enjoy reactions to this show so much. No matter how many times I've seen it there is always more that I have missed, and I'm so glad you brought this up. Amos's tattoo reads "timshel", which apparently is a Hebrew word meaning "thou mayest." The word is most notable today thanks to John Steinbech's novel East of Eden, but the translation comes from the story of Cain and Abel in the bible, the first sons of Adam and Eve. The word itself, thou mayest, implies a "come what may" attitude (to use another idiom); ya know, just like Amos. Bring it on, whatever may come through that door (or around the corners). Since it is an indirect translation though, it has another meaning. In the story of Cain and Abel the word implies conquering of sin. (Had to dig out a bible to find it, Genesis 4, this is the standard american translation): "If you act rightly, you will be accepted; but if not, sin lies in wait at the door: its urge is for you, YET YOU CAN RULE OVER IT." This is huge for the deeper themes of Amos's character. He is a man who openly admits to allowing sin to creep in near the door, but he keeps it at bay by surrounding himself with people who make 'right" choices and that help him stay the course. All that said, the story of Cain leads to him killing his brother in anger and subsequently telling God he doesn't know where his brother could have possibly gone, "Am I my brother's keeper?" Interestingly though, God exiles Cain to become a wanderer and Cain complains that this will leave him vulnerable to be murdered by anyone, anywhere he goes. God then grants him some kinda transcendental immunity by saying that no one shall touch him or Cain "shall be avenged seven times." So is Amos's character Cain before killing his brother, when timshel is actually written, or is he Cain after killing his brother and being exiled? (Don't know why I feel the need to include this, but I'm not religious. I do respect all ancient primary sources though, taken in context. Something else, skip ahead to Genesis 6 for the demi-gods of the bible, the sons of God who slept with the daughters of men, "they were the heroes of old, the men of renown.")
Wiki: Timshel - Hebrew word translation of man's triumph over sin. Hmmmmmmmmm, if that's a real Wes Chatham tattoo, wonder if he got it after he started Expanse series?
(Churn spoilers, not show spoilers) Erich needs Amos out of the city because of the stolen identity. If Amos gets found in the city the whole identity unravels and that has implications for Erich, as well, because he's the one who set it up. And because the real Amos Burton was a mob boss, a lot of the wrong people would be interested in that story and what really happened to the original Amos.
Wes was cast as Amos because he was one of only 2 auditioners who "got" Amos, that didn't play him with bravado. The other one was Elias Toufex whom they cast as Kenzo the industrial spy in season 1 😲
A point you might not have considered about Belters is that there are two types. One is the "deep space" Belters like Drummer, Marco, Ashford, and Naomi. They were born and raised in space ships or small stations. Ships are their home. They live in ships, marry, have children, and die in ships. The other kind of Belter is the "rockwala" kind like Prax, Lucia, and Miller. They were born on rocks. Their lives are on rocks. For them, a ship is a way to get from one rock to another. That difference has made much difference before, but we saw it with the Ganymede refugees (remember Drummer could not understand why they would risk death to live on Ilus), and it makes a difference to --jerks-- people like Marco. At this point, The Churn will no spoil anything from the series, and it's a short read. You'll learn more about Erich if you read "The Churn." He's not Amos' true brother, but they went through stuff together. The actor actually has the same kind of disability as the character. I also had remembered that tattoo on Amos' arm, and I had the same thought you had, but I learned that's actually Wes' own tattoo. Admiral Sauvetierre was very prickly with Alex. Martians are usually pretty petty, and Sauvetierre is more petty than most. I think season 3 is most people's favorite season because it has two book finales, and these folk know how to write book finales.
"better not be Clarissa, peaches, Melba.... My Nemesis"😛 I crack up when you do the side eye. Reminds me of the Simpsons episode when Mr Burns and Homer get trapped in a cabin and slowly try to kill each other and both start giving the side eye just like you 😂
@14:45 - The choice to cast Frankie Faison is a nice reference. This part takes place in Baltimore where Amos grew up. The Wire (HBO) took place in Baltimore and cast Frankie Faison prominently as well. If you're considering new series The Wire is considered to be one of the greatest prestige television shows of all time and is the best show HBO produced.
the scenes with amos and the man who knew Lydia are powerful. But they're even more powerful when you contrast them to season 1 amos - in episode 2 of the show, he and Holden are fixing the outside of a ship, and amos says he couldn't think of a reason why, or why not, to throw Holden out into space, except that Naomi wouldn't like it. Now he is displaying some level of compassion and selfless behaviour, and it happens all on his own. That's character development right there!
I love Drummer becoming so much more than what she was in the books. Cara Gee is fantastic! EDIT: That casual drop of Amos' early childhood really got you, huh? Amos is such a wonderfully broken person, more than any 'muscle' in any piece of fiction. Also give Peaches a chance!
What amazes me about this show is how developed and interesting the supporting cast is. Drummer could easily have a show about her activities. This show excels in making us care about characters. This season is one of my favorite, and that is mostly due to the character development. I look forward to watching you experience this season.
Erich (Amos's "brother") is depicted in the books as having deformities. They got super lucky to find Jacob Mundell, who has the exact deformity, to play him.
It’s important to note that he decided to see someone after remembering what he was told on the dock concerning people and who they are and what they’ve done not being all they can be. Amos, as you’ve been seeing came from a rough place and didn’t have the relationship tools most people have. But he’s been learning how to use/find those tools by surrounding himself with people he thinks have them. His growth over the seasons is amazing both as an acting achievement and a story arc.
1 Episode 1 Season Chrisjen tickles a small boy and says to her husband something along the line of "The great thing about being a grant parent... i can shove him of to his mother". But yeah writting this i realize that it is obvious to me, who has read the books, that the mother is her daughter... but she never talks about it in the show... fair point ^^* Bull suffers from a huge case of "wtf do we do with him ?". I mean... read the books, he is a character from the SlowZone arc and most of what he did was cut or given to Ashford, Drummer and others.
Only character they did dirty in the show was Bull imo. He was the absolute man in the books. Although I do get it, they gave much of his story / personality to Drummer who is one of my favorites in the show.
That scene of Timothy and Lydia bring to mind the quote "It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war." 5:57 fairly certain that the way you say For-ev-er! confims you have watch "The sandlot" Xander, you missed a lasagna reference at 9:52, you owe me a Garfield!
I'll claim Season 4 as my favourite! Our team has come into their own. They're respected (even begrudgingly) by people from all factions. They're comfortable in their own skin and openly play to their strengths. We get "real" Miller back. We get to see the eye of an angry god. We get to visit a whole new planet (or terror). We get Naomi's space rescue. We get to really say goodbye to Miller. And we get a Western tale, complete with wide-screen solo face offs, an actual duel, frontier bars, and simmering glares across a fledgling town. Plus, some of the interiors of Ilus were filmed in a makeshift studio converted from a horse barn/stables that still kinda smelled like horses (well, horse poop). Honestly, I loved working on Season 4. Felt like an adventure! And it looked gorgeous in the end. Y'all can put that in yer pipes and smoke it.
My own thought is that the word isn't related to his name, but rather is 'Timshel', and is a biblical reference. My complete non-expert recollection is Timshel is related to humanity's ability to choose between good and evil. That always struck me as a concept that Amos embodies, and a lot of his dialogue about needing a moral compass in Naomi, not always knowing what is right with Pax, and his relationship to Lydia in this episode all seem to support that. At least in my own head. Might be way off base, but does explain the word without beind his name. Now... is the name Tim / Timmy / Timothy related to that? Might be! Might not be!
@@GreenBoxStudio1 Yeah but it would have been very easy to cover up for the show, so I think it's still a conscious choice to leave it in, especially with a direct view of it like that.
I agree... I also thought it was the Hebrew word "Timshel". In short, Timshel gives people a choice on how to live their life. This choice is what gives life value. The ability to triumph or fail on your own. Not because something has to be one way or the other but because in the end, you made a choice for better or worse.
Found this quote online... It turns out that some of The Expanse cast member’s tattoos are actually Wes Chatham’s, and not cosmetics as many fans may have assumed. In fact, Chatham says his own tattoos have some relevance to Burton as a character. “Well, yeah - you know that Amos is always in search of his morality. What is his line between good and evil. And a lot of the tattoos that he has are kind of stories that we created that are kind of like guiding symbols to him,” explained Chatham. “And two of the tattoos that I have on my arm, not to be too specific, but they have something to do with morality. And that was just really in line with what we were trying to create, and that’s why we left those,” he added.
@@obelisk21 Yeah, the tattoo on Amos's arm read Timshel, which is a Hebrew word that translates to “Thou Mayest.” In the context of the biblical passage where it appears, it's closer to 'Thou mayest rule over sin,’ meaning that it's Cain's choice whether or not to sin (somewhere in Genesis, Chapter 4). The King James version of the Bible translates timshel to "Thou Shalt" so that difference is what makes it significant, and of course, the ability to choose not to sin would be significant enough for Amos to choose it as a tattoo.
I love this story because of how we didn’t like almost any of these characters when we met them. The hardship of their journey and learning to trust each other makes us love them even if we lose them. (Ashford, Miller, Cotyar and many others)
Oh 37:10 and onward is a great analysis of how Amos' character stands out among the usual character delivering. Didn’t realize that in my watch through. Wonder if that is just in Expanse or if that’s the “brute character” trope…tells the story without telling
HAHAHAHAH "If it's Melba..........." This chapter was fucking beautiful Amos' backstory. Probably one of the slowest ones, but it was really nice setting things up for the next episode (and even for later episodes). The Lydia part was fine, but Bobbie and Alex always feels weird to me. I feel like the actress that plays Bobbie was resentful towards Alex's actor for the accusations of sexual harassment he had. And tbh... it's understandable, I wouldn't like to have to work with someone like that
I heartily recommend listening to "The Churn", part of a small novella that expands on Amos' background. You'll find it on the Memory's Legion audiobook. The only way you could find a body in space is having it's exact trajectory and when it was ejected. The way to find things in space is my scanning for radiation - heat, electro-mag, or reflected light. A body is just a small icy rock. It's why it's so easy to smuggle in space, you can just leave stuff and chances are nobody will ever stumble across it.
Razorback is legitimate salvage and since it was used as a professional racing ship, it's people top of the line and costs more than most ships we see lol
We have had hints of Chrissy's daughter sinceSeason one. She was taking care of her grandson and relishing in being able to give the kid to her mother after pampering him.
The tatttoo is the word Timshel which is a hebrew word that translates literally to "Thou Mayest" and refers to the choice on how to live and give life value (or something like that). All that said I don't know if that is a deliberate character tattoo or just the actor's tattoo that make-up decided to leave untouched.
Amos will always be my favourite character & knows no who he was always breaks your heart. He chooses to try and be good, even though it would be easier to not give a shit. He’s a good man who doesn’t think he’s good. ❤
I knew this episode would be rough on you emotionally, but the release of getting a big chunk of Amos' backstory is cathartic as well. This helped all of us understand him so much more. That little boy he saw on the street? That little boy was going through the same hell that Timmy used to.
There's a short novella in the Expanse book series titled "The Churn" which you might find interesting. I've been reading through the books after loving the show and I would highly recommend at least reading that one since you love Amos so much. They are all excellent books so far.
I ♥ ♥ Monica. If she didn't do her flirty bit, we wouldn't have gotten the awesome turndowns from our crew. So much fun that Holden can't ignore stuff. I love the way that Amos got the message to Erich and how he made the ice pack for the dude. THe Monica stuff was great. I don't think Erich is Amos' brother, but found family, like Lydia. Great seeing Drummer and her new family. LOL, reaction to Amos going to see someone and you think it's Peaches... :) I really liked how they did all the Amos stuff. The flyover of Baltimore to dropping in, the vision of Amos seeing himself and Lydia and not thinking it's a flashback till the end. Lydia is not Amos' mom. The asteroid zoomed by the camera really fast, when the asteroid spotter was on screen and you could hear a whoosh. Avasarala has a daughter and that was her son she was playing with in the first episode.
Now that you watch "The Churn", you really need to read the novella. There are interesting details in the book not mentioned in the episode, including the relationship between Amos and Lydia. The book isn't that long. Perhaps a hundred pages max. And it does not give away any spoilers for future episodes -- it all takes place when Amos was Timmy.
I live in West Baltimore. About 2 weeks ago I was relaxing in bed and all the sudden 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 This was a good minute long gunfight. Back and forth. At least 4 guys shooting and at least 2 guys reloaded 15+ round magazines twice. All pistols but at least one was high caliber. Sounded like at least a 10mm. Could have been a 44mag or even a 50. Everything else sounded like 9mm. I managed to see the last minute or so from my front porch. It was only a half block away. I could only see one group of shooters. A house was in the way of the other group. I don't know if anyone was hit. Both groups eventuality got in their cars and went in separate directions. Anyhoo the really sad part was the cops didn't even get to the scene for 20+ minutes. The story didn't make the evening news or the paper. I've lived in Baltimore on and off for 30 years. The violence is out of control. There's a shooting within 5 blocks every day/night. I can only imagine what this town will be like in 300 years. God help us all!!!
Yes! Another Expanse video! Love your reactions to these! Makes me feel the weight of the episodes again, event though I know what's coming in a way you don't get when you just watch it back yourself. Kills me I have to waits days between them though! Hahaha 😛
After Holden pushed the button on the phone and Fred's like, "That's really how you go through life, isn't it?" is one of my favorite little moments in this entire series 🙂
I saw so much of ME in that moment 🤣
"There was a button, I pushed it." --James Holden
I need that on a t-shirt.
Yeah, this whole odyssey he's been on goes back to him clicking on the recycling bin of the Canterbury's comm logs to listen to the Scopuli's distress call. Just can't help himself.
It's also verbatim from the book, which is delightful.
I made a note for 4x6 because you basically foreshadowed the button line in your commentary. It's uncanny how many bullseyes you have.
That last scene between Timothy as a boy and Lydia throws so much light and clarity on how Amos reacted to Dr. Anna on the Behemoth.
I always thought Anna was the kind of person Amos might have become if he'd grown up in a more peaceful environment.
"Now if it goes to Earth, one, Amos is on Earth..."
What I immediately see in my head:
Asteroid: *approaches Earth*
Amos: You might want to rethink that.
Asteroid: *turns around*
😁
"I am that guy"
@@funnylilgalreacts "Understandable, heading in another direction. Have a nice day."
"I'm not here to take what's yours"
/Sips/
"God damn that's good!"
/On second thought, takes bottle/
😎
I think the key to Amos' story arc is that he keeps meeting new people who teach him things about what it means to be human, good and bad, which reshapes his moral compass. At this point, he's finally in a position to become the teacher.
In defense of Peaches, you disliked Miller at first, too!
yep she should know by now that this show makes us hate lote of character just to make us love them so much. Just look at ashford, altough i loved the character he was kind of a cunt and i was rooting for drummer in s3. And look how that ended up.
I love this show does that to so many characters. I can’t count the number of times people hated Miller, Bobby, Ashford, Peaches and Fillip only to love them by season 6’s finale.
@@jfu6413 nah Fillip is no good I dislike him and wish he was dead.
@@jfu6413 Filip is still a piece of shit by the end, and I disliked him very much. Everyone else was cool though.
Wes Chatham's delivery was perfect in Amos's conversation with Charles. Amos at first unsure why or how he's upset him, trying to reach for something Naomi or Holden would say, deciding tea is probably safe because Charles brought it up, and finally back on ground he knew with "Stop packing." Back in season 1, I'm not sure Amos could have navigated that by himself.
Erich in the books also has a deformed limb (and undocumented street rats generally can't get proper healthcare dealing with things like that). Jacob Mundell (the actor) was specifically cast, and he's great.
To clarify his brief exposition of their shared past - they both worked for Amos Burton the mob boss (Erich was a data-forger, Timothy an enforcer) and developed a bro-ship in that time. For details on how that all ended up, read "The Churn".
Also, Frankie Faison (Lydia's apartment-mate) keeps appearing as a Baltimore resident in stuff, aka Commissioner Ervin from The Wire! And for the hat trick - he played Barney the orderly in the Silence of the Lambs, overseeing Hannibal Lecter in the mental institution...located in Baltimore.
Came here to explain this very thing
Whenever I see Erich I think of my friend's father, difference being my friend's father wasn't born with either hand, he's scary capable despite that.
@@BraveSirPaul Me too. It was a fascinating bit of casting. Jacob Mundell is a fine actor, and his condition (and Erich's) has nothing to do with the plot, it's just a tidy bit of world-building. I love that the script calls no attention to it. It's just a part of who he is. Another great example of how the Expanse handles diversity SO WELL!
He is one of the best castings for a character ever..
I imagine a young Mr. Faison becoming an actor, and going, "now I'll be able to explore many facets of the human experience, in many different worlds".
Then many years later, on getting cast in a science fiction show "Finally now I can finally.....(reads script).......Baltimore, huh. Sigh".
32:18 - The little boy playing Amos deserves an Emmy, he did an incredible job with no words at all.
Please excuse me while I go sob in a corner.
The build of Amos' character through five seasons... this is just... learning the big pieces of where he comes from is overwhelming. sniff
Don't know how much was taken directly from the books but yeah they did perfect on his development
@@strawberrylotlizard most of it. If anything, having the visual of Timmy and Lydia on the dock was an improvement over the slower burn in the book.
@@putinscat1208 he's not a monster
@@putinscat1208 he was a monster he wouldn't be crying and sharing his feelings of people like he does he would just be fucking killing people. He's obviously broken but he's not a monster, he's what hurts monsters
@@putinscat1208 I mean he's an extreme version of the average person put put through trauma. You're judging him by your terms it's our judging him by the world that he's in in the future that he's in he is a goddamn Saint compared to a lot of people. In a universe where people want to blow up entire planets just because they don't like earthers,, somebody who beats up bad people is not exactly a bad guy
Lydia says she's not righteous. And eventually Amos/Timothy finds Holden - the most righteous person in the system.
If you'd read the books and seen the grief Clarissa was exposed to when she realized what she'd done, you'd like her more. She was a terrible, terrible person for the same reason Amos was -the horrific abuse she suffered as a child. It's why Amos was so instrumental in helping her survive. He normally doesn't give a shit about adults, but he recognized her pain. At some point in the books, there's a twenty year jump forward in time, and I think Clarissa was a member of the Rocinante for all that time, but we never got to experience it. I bitterly regret that and hold out a faint hope that the writers may fill that time gap someday.
Watching the light dawn in your eyes when you realize that yes, he is going to see peaches. awesome
My soul was slowly dying...
Avasarala had two sons, the one who was in the military and died named Charanpal and a daughter named Ashanti. In the first season appears Avasarala with her grandson who is one of the two kids of Ashanti.
Yes - was so funny that she was confused about that. Avasarala's intro in this show is literally with her grandson. I guess she would have children.
It's a fact that Wes Chatham makes a good character great.
I haven't watched any of your videos before, so it's perhaps strange that I started on season 5 episode 2. But I'm going to go back to the beginning and start from there, because you definitely have one of the more perceptive and insightful commentaries I've seen (of any series). And more than this, your empathy for the characters is clearly testament to your empathy for others in real life. It's a beautiful thing, and we could use more of that amidst the horrors of the world these days. Keep up the great work.
Watch my commentary for the first couple episodes 😂 sometimes I watch them back and chuckle
Dan and Ty as writers is always great stuff BUT you should always get excited when you see Breck Eisner directing. He was our go-to, effectively in-house director who pushed us with Hollywood energy to eke out every dollar we could to put it onscreen.
Dan, Ty, Breck, and Jeremy Benning were easily the A-Team of the show. They pushed the crew to the limit in the very best ways (though some might have disagreed on certain nights). We had those who kept them in check (such as the mighty Lewin Webb, the supervising producer AKA pit boss on set). And I could go down a list of unsung heroes.
Anyway, I digress.
Breck Eisner wanted every shot to be meaningful and kinetic or dynamic in service of the story. So, when see those oners, tracking shots, or whip-pans that make the show feel alive, you're probably watching a Breck Eisner episode. Occasionally, his enthusiasm got the better of him (there's a funny pre-viz story I'll only ever tell in person) or left us bone-tired but, ultimately, he delivered.
As these last two seasons play out, if you see his name, strap in. Because the juice is coming.
Side note: When I knew Frankie Faison (THE WIRE, THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS, LUKE CAGE) was going to be on set, I was giddy. Never got the chance to meet him but, wow. That man is as solid an actor as they come and, to me, a legend of the screen.
One of my few regrets was never getting to chat with him. To just be in his presence would have been an honour of my career.
This episode actually helps explain the whole Amos-Peaches thing that is irking you so badly - he is going to attempt to play Lydia to her Timothy. They are damaged for different reasons, but Amos does recognise the pain that drives Clarissa, and is willing to offer her help with it. Not many others would, or could, do that.
14:10 That first scene into Baltimore is one continuous shot. The camera was flown in on a helicopter, then got passed over to a crane, and finally to a cameraman on the ground. It's an amazing shot.
One of the most powerful episodes in the series - not for the action, but for the realisation just how much one of our favourite characters has developed. It also fills in a lot of the points that have been touched on about his history
Definitely recommend reading the short story "The Churn"
And when you read "The Churn," you'll get a bit of information...it may seem unpleasant, but don't judge...about why Amos might have a "thing" for Avasarala.
Amos is one of the best written characters ever. The slow reveal of his story as he evolves from his introduction through each season is amazing. I never thought he would be my favorite character.... but he is.
26:39 Literally *every* screenwriter needs to watch that exchange. The perfect example of how you provide exposition for the audience while still keeping your characters believable.
Now you know why Amos is so protective of children and has no problem at all eliminating child abusers of all kinds ... Poor Guy.
In the original short story "The Churn", Lydia is described as being middle eastern/Persian. Just like Avasarala. In that story, Amos and Lydias relationship was also sexual (inappropriate in normal society, but not for them in their insane lives in Baltimores criminal world). So when Amos hits on Avasarala on Luna in the last episode, he isn't just flirting. He is legit attracted to Avasarala, most likely because she reminds him of Lydia.
I'm not sure Erich is literally Amos's biological brother. Amos calls the guys on the Roci "brother" all the time. I think it's just his preferred term of endearment to men he's close with.
@23:50 "Aw. Kindness you don't expect from Amos" - Guys who get hurt a lot tend to learn about what needs doing after a hurt but yeah, he has definitely picked up a few things during this show
Baltimore in this reminds me of my hometown during the 80's when I was growing up in the North of England. Lot of kids my age didn't get the best of starts. Lot of the guys joined-up to get out like I did, a lot of the girls had babies too young, a lot of the others died from everything from joyriding to drugs. Rough way to grow up
Delta-V might be my favourite episode. It's underrated for sure.
Also, fancy new intro there. I like it!
34:17 🤣 🤐
They did a great job adapting the novellas into the story. Loved this episode.
This season, and this episode, really encapsulate why Amos is one of my favourite characters in fiction. His conversation with Charles has so much going on.
Also, the actor for Erich is a very nice guy, and super appreciative of the fandom. He even followed me back on Twitter!
Every season feels like a different show with the same people because every season is a different genre. It’s one of the things that makes The Expanse special. The fact it remains so consistent and cohesive when playing with genre each season is a remarkable achievement. And it keeps the show fresh year over year.
After the conversation with Charles, I had to pause because I was crying so much about how Timothy grew up.
No, he isn't related to Erich. He just meant they were tight once. None of Amos' (Timmy's) blood relatives have been shown. And the Timshel tattoo is Wes' tattoo, not Amos'. It means 'thou mayest' in Hebrew. Hope this helps.
A couple of things to stout out about-
That camera shot entering Baltimore was one camera shot, the camera went from a helicopter flying over, passed to a crane then to a person to walk through the crowd.
Finally can we all praise Wes Chatham, in preparation for playing the role of Amos he went to physiologists specializing in child abuse victims and adult victims of child abuse even visiting some in prison to understand the mind set of Amos and how he would react, and has used that knowledge since S1E1
The Razorback = legitimate salvage 🙃
In the Razorback's case, it may *technically* belong to Mao's family (Melba maybe?). But they probably aren't in a situation to make a claim.
Fun fact Drummer is really an amalgamation of 3 characters from the books. The characters story from the books that we first met Drummer as was Bull. The character who's story she has this season was Michio Pa in the books, who we also see this season as a member of her crew.
Making sure Charles had a home is standard Amos. Stroking Charles' arm and telling him tea would be nice is emotional growth for him, something we didn't really expect to see out of someone so battered by his childhood.
Fun fact about the "Bull" character you don't like. He had a fairly large role in the earlier books, but in the show they gave most of his story and development to Drummer. Show Drummer is an amalgamation of book Bull, book Michio Pa and book Samara Rosenberg. I think Drummer appeared in books, but in a tiny role.
Both Bull and Michio Pa appeared in the show from season 5, but both in much smaller role than they had in the books. Michio Pa is one of the girls on Drummer's ship now.
There’s a certain irony of Drummer’s first time as a named character first in book 6, while Bull doesn’t become a named character until season 6 of the show.
Dammit, Rob C beat me to it
Shoutout to Xander for the dramatic slow zoom in @34:17. It was the icing on the cake that had me crying in laughter Angela’s realization!
And I don't get why that would be a problem? A lot of the belters people seem to idolize have killed multiple people, even as bad guys.
I know right. It's funny how Xander is a big part of this channel without being on camera nor speaking. That was where my mind went to as well.
Oh my gosh, the 15 seconds that it took for Angela to realize and process that possibility was worth the price of admission! That was my favorite part of this entire reaction! 🤣
That made my face hurt, from 😁😂
The actor who played Erich is Jacob Mundell, who happens to have one arm. They just... went with that.
Wow that's awesome that someone with a similar appearance got the part. I thought it was CGI or prosthetic.
In the novella, Erich has an injured arm and they go a bit more detail about it.
The character in the books also has a congenital issue with his arm
I really love Jacob's role in the episode and his performance and I really really wanna see him in more stuff. Wish they covered more of the Churn so we could see more Erich.
Bull is actually one of the book characters that show Drummer is an amalgamation of. He's the one who jumps down the elevator shaft with grenades to stop the OPA (Diogo) at the end of Book 3.
The reveal about Amos as a boy gutted me. Being a survivor of S.A., I couldn't keep it together, even though it was brought up so casually. Amos was already a favorite (no surprise there), but this made me feel actually connected to him.
If you rewatch season one episode one when Avasarala's grandson throws a water balloon at her while she is in front of the mirror she makes a comment about the fact that she can give him back to his mother to deal with after she gets him to wound up running around the house so the daughter was definitely inferred.
Charanpal could've had a wife. How did we get to Season 5 without a daughter even being in a scene?
@@funnylilgalreactsThat is a valid point... I am someone who read the books and it was laid out a bit more plainly if I remember correctly so it was never something I gave a lot of thought to when I watched the series.
Amos Burton : There you go. Now you just walk around like you're in pumps.
Chrisjen Avasarala : How do you know what it's like to walk around in pumps?
Amos Burton : I didn't always work in space.
A very funny exchange if you've seen through season 2.
A very not funny exchange if you've seen through season 5.
Who doesn't just love all these characters? Amos and Camina are rockstars.
I just got done rewatching your reactions to 4x10 and 5x01 and was fixing to go to bed and then BOOM! You drop this one! And it's an important one. It's personal.
That tattoo on Amos's arm is actually a tattoo on Wes's arm in real life.
I loved your reaction Angela very much. Your emotional reaction was perfect. Thank you for being this invested in our beloved show. I can't talk more about this one because it's....... difficult.
Looking forward to the next one!
Keep in mind. Clarissa's change of heart at the critical moment saved humanity. Despite her crimes that should be considered when judging her.
@@putinscat1208 Nice try? How that point came about is immaterial to the actual fact that without her actions humanity would have been destroyed. Plus her malicious actions caused them the realize that there is a speed limit in the ring area sooner than later. All she did was hasten mankind's entry into the gate. They would have ended up eventually in the same place and scenario without her. Mars, Earth, Belters and no violence would have gone on past the ring triggering the danger to mankind without Clarissa's actions? GTFO.
@@putinscat1208 I am pretty much done with you since you are arguing against points that I didn't make. Not worth my time. Never argue with the clueless, ignorant, and trolls.
Your comment about his tattoo, this is why I enjoy reactions to this show so much. No matter how many times I've seen it there is always more that I have missed, and I'm so glad you brought this up. Amos's tattoo reads "timshel", which apparently is a Hebrew word meaning "thou mayest." The word is most notable today thanks to John Steinbech's novel East of Eden, but the translation comes from the story of Cain and Abel in the bible, the first sons of Adam and Eve. The word itself, thou mayest, implies a "come what may" attitude (to use another idiom); ya know, just like Amos. Bring it on, whatever may come through that door (or around the corners).
Since it is an indirect translation though, it has another meaning. In the story of Cain and Abel the word implies conquering of sin. (Had to dig out a bible to find it, Genesis 4, this is the standard american translation): "If you act rightly, you will be accepted; but if not, sin lies in wait at the door: its urge is for you, YET YOU CAN RULE OVER IT." This is huge for the deeper themes of Amos's character. He is a man who openly admits to allowing sin to creep in near the door, but he keeps it at bay by surrounding himself with people who make 'right" choices and that help him stay the course. All that said, the story of Cain leads to him killing his brother in anger and subsequently telling God he doesn't know where his brother could have possibly gone, "Am I my brother's keeper?" Interestingly though, God exiles Cain to become a wanderer and Cain complains that this will leave him vulnerable to be murdered by anyone, anywhere he goes. God then grants him some kinda transcendental immunity by saying that no one shall touch him or Cain "shall be avenged seven times." So is Amos's character Cain before killing his brother, when timshel is actually written, or is he Cain after killing his brother and being exiled?
(Don't know why I feel the need to include this, but I'm not religious. I do respect all ancient primary sources though, taken in context. Something else, skip ahead to Genesis 6 for the demi-gods of the bible, the sons of God who slept with the daughters of men, "they were the heroes of old, the men of renown.")
Wiki: Timshel - Hebrew word translation of man's triumph over sin. Hmmmmmmmmm, if that's a real Wes Chatham tattoo, wonder if he got it after he started Expanse series?
They did good with Amos's story in the series, but his story arch in the books is friggen amazing.
(Churn spoilers, not show spoilers)
Erich needs Amos out of the city because of the stolen identity. If Amos gets found in the city the whole identity unravels and that has implications for Erich, as well, because he's the one who set it up. And because the real Amos Burton was a mob boss, a lot of the wrong people would be interested in that story and what really happened to the original Amos.
That Zoom in when you where working out who amo is going to see made me LOL. Good job Mr Zander.
That tattoo is Wes Chathams. It says Timshel which is apparently is a hebrew word meaning our choices are what show the value of our lives.
I like how "The Wire" heavy the return to Baltimore episode is, crossover actors, concrete statue, women in shipping containers with air problems etc.
Wes was cast as Amos because he was one of only 2 auditioners who "got" Amos, that didn't play him with bravado. The other one was Elias Toufex whom
they cast as Kenzo the industrial spy in season 1 😲
A point you might not have considered about Belters is that there are two types. One is the "deep space" Belters like Drummer, Marco, Ashford, and Naomi. They were born and raised in space ships or small stations. Ships are their home. They live in ships, marry, have children, and die in ships. The other kind of Belter is the "rockwala" kind like Prax, Lucia, and Miller. They were born on rocks. Their lives are on rocks. For them, a ship is a way to get from one rock to another. That difference has made much difference before, but we saw it with the Ganymede refugees (remember Drummer could not understand why they would risk death to live on Ilus), and it makes a difference to --jerks-- people like Marco.
At this point, The Churn will no spoil anything from the series, and it's a short read. You'll learn more about Erich if you read "The Churn." He's not Amos' true brother, but they went through stuff together. The actor actually has the same kind of disability as the character. I also had remembered that tattoo on Amos' arm, and I had the same thought you had, but I learned that's actually Wes' own tattoo.
Admiral Sauvetierre was very prickly with Alex. Martians are usually pretty petty, and Sauvetierre is more petty than most.
I think season 3 is most people's favorite season because it has two book finales, and these folk know how to write book finales.
Amos calls Holden brother in the same tone.
"better not be Clarissa, peaches, Melba.... My Nemesis"😛
I crack up when you do the side eye. Reminds me of the Simpsons episode when Mr Burns and Homer get trapped in a cabin and slowly try to kill each other and both start giving the side eye just like you 😂
@14:45 - The choice to cast Frankie Faison is a nice reference. This part takes place in Baltimore where Amos grew up. The Wire (HBO) took place in Baltimore and cast Frankie Faison prominently as well. If you're considering new series The Wire is considered to be one of the greatest prestige television shows of all time and is the best show HBO produced.
the scenes with amos and the man who knew Lydia are powerful. But they're even more powerful when you contrast them to season 1 amos - in episode 2 of the show, he and Holden are fixing the outside of a ship, and amos says he couldn't think of a reason why, or why not, to throw Holden out into space, except that Naomi wouldn't like it.
Now he is displaying some level of compassion and selfless behaviour, and it happens all on his own. That's character development right there!
I love Drummer becoming so much more than what she was in the books. Cara Gee is fantastic!
EDIT: That casual drop of Amos' early childhood really got you, huh? Amos is such a wonderfully broken person, more than any 'muscle' in any piece of fiction. Also give Peaches a chance!
All we are saaaaying
Is give Peaches a chaaaance... 🎶
She' literally has absorbed multiple characters from the books. In this case she playing the part of book Michio Pa
What amazes me about this show is how developed and interesting the supporting cast is. Drummer could easily have a show about her activities.
This show excels in making us care about characters. This season is one of my favorite, and that is mostly due to the character development. I look forward to watching you experience this season.
They are making a game about Drummer
Finding out Amos is actually named Timothy has some serious “his real name’s Clarence” energy
the beach scene is hands down one of my favorite scenes in the entire show, so well done
Erich (Amos's "brother") is depicted in the books as having deformities. They got super lucky to find Jacob Mundell, who has the exact deformity, to play him.
It’s important to note that he decided to see someone after remembering what he was told on the dock concerning people and who they are and what they’ve done not being all they can be. Amos, as you’ve been seeing came from a rough place and didn’t have the relationship tools most people have. But he’s been learning how to use/find those tools by surrounding himself with people he thinks have them. His growth over the seasons is amazing both as an acting achievement and a story arc.
Amos, they way you feel so much respect for his character and feel so bad for him at the same time…great writing or whatever, amazing….
34:25 Legitimately rolling on the floor, I knew exactly what you were thinking just by the look.
1 Episode 1 Season Chrisjen tickles a small boy and says to her husband something along the line of "The great thing about being a grant parent... i can shove him of to his mother".
But yeah writting this i realize that it is obvious to me, who has read the books, that the mother is her daughter... but she never talks about it in the show... fair point ^^*
Bull suffers from a huge case of "wtf do we do with him ?". I mean... read the books, he is a character from the SlowZone arc and most of what he did was cut or given to Ashford, Drummer and others.
Only character they did dirty in the show was Bull imo. He was the absolute man in the books. Although I do get it, they gave much of his story / personality to Drummer who is one of my favorites in the show.
Thoes kids at the end probably the smartest guys in the show
That scene of Timothy and Lydia bring to mind the quote "It is better to be a warrior in a garden, than a gardener in a war."
5:57 fairly certain that the way you say For-ev-er! confims you have watch "The sandlot"
Xander, you missed a lasagna reference at 9:52, you owe me a Garfield!
Season 3 is hands down my favorite. Arguably the best season of television ever made.
I'll claim Season 4 as my favourite!
Our team has come into their own. They're respected (even begrudgingly) by people from all factions. They're comfortable in their own skin and openly play to their strengths. We get "real" Miller back. We get to see the eye of an angry god. We get to visit a whole new planet (or terror). We get Naomi's space rescue. We get to really say goodbye to Miller.
And we get a Western tale, complete with wide-screen solo face offs, an actual duel, frontier bars, and simmering glares across a fledgling town. Plus, some of the interiors of Ilus were filmed in a makeshift studio converted from a horse barn/stables that still kinda smelled like horses (well, horse poop).
Honestly, I loved working on Season 4. Felt like an adventure! And it looked gorgeous in the end.
Y'all can put that in yer pipes and smoke it.
The razorback was a legitimate salvage of Jul Pierre Mao's ship, which was destroyed. Technically it belongs to Bobby
My own thought is that the word isn't related to his name, but rather is 'Timshel', and is a biblical reference. My complete non-expert recollection is Timshel is related to humanity's ability to choose between good and evil. That always struck me as a concept that Amos embodies, and a lot of his dialogue about needing a moral compass in Naomi, not always knowing what is right with Pax, and his relationship to Lydia in this episode all seem to support that. At least in my own head. Might be way off base, but does explain the word without beind his name.
Now... is the name Tim / Timmy / Timothy related to that? Might be! Might not be!
It’s hard to nail that tattoo down as it’s not one of Amos’ tattoos but the actors Wes Chatham’
@@GreenBoxStudio1 Yeah but it would have been very easy to cover up for the show, so I think it's still a conscious choice to leave it in, especially with a direct view of it like that.
I agree... I also thought it was the Hebrew word "Timshel". In short, Timshel gives people a choice on how to live their life. This choice is what gives life value. The ability to triumph or fail on your own. Not because something has to be one way or the other but because in the end, you made a choice for better or worse.
Found this quote online...
It turns out that some of The Expanse cast member’s tattoos are actually Wes Chatham’s, and not cosmetics as many fans may have assumed. In fact, Chatham says his own tattoos have some relevance to Burton as a character.
“Well, yeah - you know that Amos is always in search of his morality. What is his line between good and evil. And a lot of the tattoos that he has are kind of stories that we created that are kind of like guiding symbols to him,” explained Chatham.
“And two of the tattoos that I have on my arm, not to be too specific, but they have something to do with morality. And that was just really in line with what we were trying to create, and that’s why we left those,” he added.
@@obelisk21 Yeah, the tattoo on Amos's arm read Timshel, which is a Hebrew word that translates to “Thou Mayest.” In the context of the biblical passage where it appears, it's closer to 'Thou mayest rule over sin,’ meaning that it's Cain's choice whether or not to sin (somewhere in Genesis, Chapter 4). The King James version of the Bible translates timshel to "Thou Shalt" so that difference is what makes it significant, and of course, the ability to choose not to sin would be significant enough for Amos to choose it as a tattoo.
I love this story because of how we didn’t like almost any of these characters when we met them. The hardship of their journey and learning to trust each other makes us love them even if we lose them. (Ashford, Miller, Cotyar and many others)
Oh 37:10 and onward is a great analysis of how Amos' character stands out among the usual character delivering. Didn’t realize that in my watch through. Wonder if that is just in Expanse or if that’s the “brute character” trope…tells the story without telling
The owner of the Razorback, abandoned ship, and left them to die.
It's legitimate salvage. :)
HAHAHAHAH "If it's Melba..........."
This chapter was fucking beautiful Amos' backstory. Probably one of the slowest ones, but it was really nice setting things up for the next episode (and even for later episodes). The Lydia part was fine, but Bobbie and Alex always feels weird to me. I feel like the actress that plays Bobbie was resentful towards Alex's actor for the accusations of sexual harassment he had. And tbh... it's understandable, I wouldn't like to have to work with someone like that
I heartily recommend listening to "The Churn", part of a small novella that expands on Amos' background. You'll find it on the Memory's Legion audiobook.
The only way you could find a body in space is having it's exact trajectory and when it was ejected. The way to find things in space is my scanning for radiation - heat, electro-mag, or reflected light. A body is just a small icy rock. It's why it's so easy to smuggle in space, you can just leave stuff and chances are nobody will ever stumble across it.
I loved the bit when the kid flashed his gun to try to intimidate Amos, and how effortlessly Amos turned that round
Razorback is legitimate salvage and since it was used as a professional racing ship, it's people top of the line and costs more than most ships we see lol
We have had hints of Chrissy's daughter sinceSeason one. She was taking care of her grandson and relishing in being able to give the kid to her mother after pampering him.
Hey Angie. just commenting to say "love ya" =] and that I appreciate your kindness and empathy when it comes to the stories we watch.
LMAO at that zoom in. Good stuff, editor.
The tatttoo is the word Timshel which is a hebrew word that translates literally to "Thou Mayest" and refers to the choice on how to live and give life value (or something like that). All that said I don't know if that is a deliberate character tattoo or just the actor's tattoo that make-up decided to leave untouched.
Amos will always be my favourite character & knows no who he was always breaks your heart. He chooses to try and be good, even though it would be easier to not give a shit. He’s a good man who doesn’t think he’s good. ❤
I knew this episode would be rough on you emotionally, but the release of getting a big chunk of Amos' backstory is cathartic as well. This helped all of us understand him so much more. That little boy he saw on the street? That little boy was going through the same hell that Timmy used to.
i love your reactions. you're so genuine.
There's a short novella in the Expanse book series titled "The Churn" which you might find interesting. I've been reading through the books after loving the show and I would highly recommend at least reading that one since you love Amos so much. They are all excellent books so far.
Two things: trust the writers - have they let you down so far? Second, remember that shot of hyper-oxygenated blood... it's important.
I ♥ ♥ Monica. If she didn't do her flirty bit, we wouldn't have gotten the awesome turndowns from our crew. So much fun that Holden can't ignore stuff. I love the way that Amos got the message to Erich and how he made the ice pack for the dude. THe Monica stuff was great. I don't think Erich is Amos' brother, but found family, like Lydia. Great seeing Drummer and her new family. LOL, reaction to Amos going to see someone and you think it's Peaches... :) I really liked how they did all the Amos stuff. The flyover of Baltimore to dropping in, the vision of Amos seeing himself and Lydia and not thinking it's a flashback till the end. Lydia is not Amos' mom. The asteroid zoomed by the camera really fast, when the asteroid spotter was on screen and you could hear a whoosh. Avasarala has a daughter and that was her son she was playing with in the first episode.
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Now that you watch "The Churn", you really need to read the novella. There are interesting details in the book not mentioned in the episode, including the relationship between Amos and Lydia. The book isn't that long. Perhaps a hundred pages max. And it does not give away any spoilers for future episodes -- it all takes place when Amos was Timmy.
The ticky tock is where proper speech goes to die.
Can't wait for the best redemption arc of the series. I'll be surprised if you are not a fan by the end. Peaches ❤
I live in West Baltimore. About 2 weeks ago I was relaxing in bed and all the sudden 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥 This was a good minute long gunfight. Back and forth. At least 4 guys shooting and at least 2 guys reloaded 15+ round magazines twice. All pistols but at least one was high caliber. Sounded like at least a 10mm. Could have been a 44mag or even a 50. Everything else sounded like 9mm. I managed to see the last minute or so from my front porch. It was only a half block away. I could only see one group of shooters. A house was in the way of the other group. I don't know if anyone was hit. Both groups eventuality got in their cars and went in separate directions. Anyhoo the really sad part was the cops didn't even get to the scene for 20+ minutes. The story didn't make the evening news or the paper. I've lived in Baltimore on and off for 30 years. The violence is out of control. There's a shooting within 5 blocks every day/night. I can only imagine what this town will be like in 300 years. God help us all!!!
I just hope you have enough back up bottles ready Angela.
The actor who played Lydia's partner is the landlord in coming to America
Yes! Another Expanse video! Love your reactions to these! Makes me feel the weight of the episodes again, event though I know what's coming in a way you don't get when you just watch it back yourself.
Kills me I have to waits days between them though! Hahaha 😛
The lady with young Timothy is Lydia. She's played by Stacey Roca.