The outdoor performance was great - looked like a lot of wind and it blocked almost 100% of it out. Once you went lavalier (no dead cat) - wind noise came back in big. Great review Tom.
I had purchased a diety s mic2, i worked with it along 2 year in a vocal booth for Vo, its sounds bad for me , i tried many EQs but the sounds missed some things. Believing that I can get SENNHEISER KMS 416's quality sound for a third price .after two years or more of use, I can say that it is not possible. If I want SENNHEISER KMS 416 sound, just pay 1000 dollars if you can. Now I use The SHURE KSM 42 and I am very happy with it
Yep you’re 100% right. I had the S Mic 2 too and for me it sounded nice when close, but it dropped off at a distance (and I wanted to use it as a boom). Sometimes the pro prices are absolutely justified.
This is just a darn good video. Interesting topic too. I have a Rode VideoMic Pro+ in my closet that never comes out because I'm such a sucker for my NTG3, and I convince myself that its worth it bringing out an XLR recorder lol. When I say it, it sounds stupid. Hmm..
I literally just shot a review for this… and included some of the same mics 😂😂😂 I am assuming this is one of those “great minds think alike” things 😜 Great video as always dude!
That's crazy! I think this mic has been out for like a year and I got mine I think 4 months ago? Definitely weird to make the same video at the same time! Can't wait to see yours 👍
@@tombuck I actually had no idea! I thought it was a newish release 🤣 I just got mine last week! I definitely get a little behind in the video mic world. It’s like you said, I just thought previous stuff that came out was really solid and I didn’t think there would be a game changer for quite a while. I was curious about this one though! It definitely has some cool features.
Sounds great. I like the firmware support of the VideoMic NTG. Joby seems to be kicking the door in with new products but I need more proof of long term support.
Yeah, Rode's firmware updates are pretty much second to none in terms of actually adding new functionality/compatibility. Joby seems to be doing well too, but like you said, the long term support definitely makes a difference and the only way to see how they handle it is for time to pass.
What an another day when Tom uploads a video. I just felt sad from inside. ='| But when you upload a video, It really helps. So, With every microphones I had. From my BY-MM1 to my current 7RYMS, And this. (The Joby Wavo one) Well, Another best microphone from a VideoMic GO II. And yeah, I really like how it (Joby Wavo mic) gives me a sound meter and a secondary mic input. (What if I can plug my other boom mic in, What's gonna happen? 🤔) Btw, This mic is gonna be anything compared to the VideoMic GO II or with my mics that I've used. 😊 I think it stills makes a bit difference, Though. It depends on the quality, Maybe? "Btw, My dream mic it stills be a VideoMic GO II (or maybe I could look for alternatives 🤔)"
The GO II is a really great mic, especially at the price. But I do personally prefer "powered" mics since they tend to be a bit more sensitive, have some extra "reach," and pack some helpful features. Thanks for the kind words!
Great Review. I did notice the noise cancelation worked more for on camera handling, didnt do a lot to cover the washing machine sound. The body is kind of weird but other than that the audio sounds good and i do like the option of adding a Lavalier mic. My go to is still the Rode NTG for vlog videos.
Yeah, I noticed that too. The NTG is tough to beat, but I think the Joby is a good option for someone who doesn't already have a mic- especially if they need a second/lav mic. I love that option!
Does the dead cat come with the Joby? The need to buy one for the Rode mics has always irked me. I agree with you on the 3.5mm cable. Angled connectors work better and at $300 it would have been nice to see Joby include that. It's not an insurmountable issue, but it's one that requires the user to go out and source and additional cable. I'm glad to see that the Joby can split the audio from two inputs but I would prefer that to be default rather than needing the app to change. It's easier to record in two-channel audio and then create stereo from a single channel in post or blend them as necessary. Perhaps in a future mic review video you could take it out into the wild? I do a bit of in-person interviews of people on trade show floors, cafes and elsewhere, so it would be very interesting to see practical noise rejection and isolation of the microphone. I know that's not the kind of videos you typically shoot but I think it would be a good exercise of the mic. I have found though that these smaller, UA-camr mics work differently than professional mics. The way I handle the Rode VMGO2 or Diety D4 is quite different than the AT4073 or MKE600. Thanks for another great video!
Yep, the deadbeat comes with it, and it's a surprisingly nice one. I'd love to take advantage of some future trade show/event to test out mics and gear. Definitely planning for NAB next year!
I preferred the mic without active noise reduction. I’m watching on an LG television. The ability to add an external mic is a killer feature. Superb review! Thanks Tom!
I've gone subscribed to a handful of channels only, now this one couldn't pass. The only neg I can think of is, that it is almost too perfect :))) Love your play of words
I could be totally wrong, but from what I know Rode doesn't manufacture anything for other companies. But their Videomic design definitely became pretty iconic, so it doesn't surprise me that there are A LOT of similar looking options out there (it's also just a practical design, so I'm sure that plays into it too).
Is it just me or after updating the firmware with the app, does it disable the physical buttons, and full use without the app? My +10, +20 physical buttons no longer ever since pairing the app, and updating the firmware.
Hey Tom, out of curiosity. Have you done a full EQ & Compression for this microphone? I hear that you can trade & share settings via the app. If you have, would you be interested in a collab for best settings using this mic as an on camera vlog camera?
@@tombuck This is so hard to choose between NTG and MKE400 😅 Do you think NTG is still good option for 2023? It was released couple of years ago, in my amature point of view it seems like outdated haha.
6:28 It definitely helped, but not a massive difference. (listening on Philips Fidelio X2HR) 8:42 Yes, I heard some hiss. plus 10 sounded great at normal volume on my pc, but once I turned it up to max it too got hiss. Barely any at the shot with the mic being shown 9:03 played at max volume. But I don't listen at that high volume.I guess software might be ble to remove the hiss.
10:54 yes, people shooting mountain bike videos, how tos, how to do techniques or do some work of some kind like wood work or something, but in these scenarios it's better to wear a mic like you do. Which works well. But this mic performed quite well even for this extreme distance. So good to know it will work ok in an emergency.
I usually try keeping the camera's audio levels set very low and then adjust with the mic. With my Sony cameras, that usually means the gain is on like a 3, and then the NTG is around 8 on the back dial.
I actually don’t have that one. I tried for a bit and it really didn’t work well for me. I’ve heard others use it with great results, but I could never get it sounding good.
@@tombuck Ah. I've been hoping for a good comparison video somewhere with it before I bought a new on cam mic. I'm still using my old Shure LensHopper VP83. :D
Seems like another way for me to Wavo goodbye to a lot of cash. I say Pasadena. Great video though. Thanks for sharing.
The outdoor performance was great - looked like a lot of wind and it blocked almost 100% of it out. Once you went lavalier (no dead cat) - wind noise came back in big. Great review Tom.
It can be tough to do those kinds of comparisons, because when something works well you almost don't notice it 😁
I had purchased a diety s mic2, i worked with it along 2 year in a vocal booth for Vo, its sounds bad for me , i tried many EQs but the sounds missed some things.
Believing that I can get SENNHEISER KMS 416's quality sound for a third price .after two years or more of use, I can say that it is not possible. If I want SENNHEISER KMS 416 sound, just pay 1000 dollars if you can.
Now I use The SHURE KSM 42 and I am very happy with it
Yep you’re 100% right. I had the S Mic 2 too and for me it sounded nice when close, but it dropped off at a distance (and I wanted to use it as a boom).
Sometimes the pro prices are absolutely justified.
This is just a darn good video. Interesting topic too. I have a Rode VideoMic Pro+ in my closet that never comes out because I'm such a sucker for my NTG3, and I convince myself that its worth it bringing out an XLR recorder lol. When I say it, it sounds stupid. Hmm..
I get it, the NTG3 is an amazing mic. Once you find what works, it's really tough to use anything else!
I literally just shot a review for this… and included some of the same mics
😂😂😂
I am assuming this is one of those “great minds think alike” things 😜
Great video as always dude!
That's crazy! I think this mic has been out for like a year and I got mine I think 4 months ago? Definitely weird to make the same video at the same time! Can't wait to see yours 👍
That's complementary.
Tom's has a dog bark test, yours will have the kitty purr.
Now we need Bandrew to do a fish tank test, to be thorough.
@@tombuck I actually had no idea! I thought it was a newish release 🤣 I just got mine last week!
I definitely get a little behind in the video mic world. It’s like you said, I just thought previous stuff that came out was really solid and I didn’t think there would be a game changer for quite a while. I was curious about this one though! It definitely has some cool features.
@@PawFromTheBroons 😂 I love this!!! I should try and talk Bandrew into that!
Sounds great. I like the firmware support of the VideoMic NTG. Joby seems to be kicking the door in with new products but I need more proof of long term support.
Yeah, Rode's firmware updates are pretty much second to none in terms of actually adding new functionality/compatibility. Joby seems to be doing well too, but like you said, the long term support definitely makes a difference and the only way to see how they handle it is for time to pass.
What an another day when Tom uploads a video.
I just felt sad from inside. ='|
But when you upload a video, It really helps.
So, With every microphones I had.
From my BY-MM1 to my current 7RYMS, And this. (The Joby Wavo one)
Well, Another best microphone from a VideoMic GO II.
And yeah, I really like how it (Joby Wavo mic) gives me a sound meter and a secondary mic input. (What if I can plug my other boom mic in, What's gonna happen? 🤔)
Btw, This mic is gonna be anything compared to the VideoMic GO II or with my mics that I've used. 😊
I think it stills makes a bit difference, Though.
It depends on the quality, Maybe?
"Btw, My dream mic it stills be a VideoMic GO II (or maybe I could look for alternatives 🤔)"
The GO II is a really great mic, especially at the price. But I do personally prefer "powered" mics since they tend to be a bit more sensitive, have some extra "reach," and pack some helpful features.
Thanks for the kind words!
@@tombuck Yeah, Tom. =)
Awesome video! I just buy my first mic and either is a rode wirelles go 2, you helped me to know what to search for from a mic.
Happy to hear it! All of the different wireless sets are nifty, but I think it's a great idea to have a decent lavalier to go with them too.
Great video, as always. Thanks so much.
Glad you enjoyed!
Great Review. I did notice the noise cancelation worked more for on camera handling, didnt do a lot to cover the washing machine sound. The body is kind of weird but other than that the audio sounds good and i do like the option of adding a Lavalier mic. My go to is still the Rode NTG for vlog videos.
Yeah, I noticed that too. The NTG is tough to beat, but I think the Joby is a good option for someone who doesn't already have a mic- especially if they need a second/lav mic. I love that option!
Does the dead cat come with the Joby? The need to buy one for the Rode mics has always irked me. I agree with you on the 3.5mm cable. Angled connectors work better and at $300 it would have been nice to see Joby include that. It's not an insurmountable issue, but it's one that requires the user to go out and source and additional cable. I'm glad to see that the Joby can split the audio from two inputs but I would prefer that to be default rather than needing the app to change. It's easier to record in two-channel audio and then create stereo from a single channel in post or blend them as necessary.
Perhaps in a future mic review video you could take it out into the wild? I do a bit of in-person interviews of people on trade show floors, cafes and elsewhere, so it would be very interesting to see practical noise rejection and isolation of the microphone. I know that's not the kind of videos you typically shoot but I think it would be a good exercise of the mic. I have found though that these smaller, UA-camr mics work differently than professional mics. The way I handle the Rode VMGO2 or Diety D4 is quite different than the AT4073 or MKE600.
Thanks for another great video!
Yep, the deadbeat comes with it, and it's a surprisingly nice one. I'd love to take advantage of some future trade show/event to test out mics and gear. Definitely planning for NAB next year!
I preferred the mic without active noise reduction. I’m watching on an LG television. The ability to add an external mic is a killer feature. Superb review! Thanks Tom!
Yeah, noise reduction does always seem to do weird things with frequencies, but it can definitely be a lifesaver in a pinch.
I have the Sony and Rode NTG, and no need for anything else for sure...Outside unless it 'really nice' I use a lav.
I'm still always impressed with the Rode, especially when it comes to price vs. quality.
I've gone subscribed to a handful of channels only, now this one couldn't pass. The only neg I can think of is, that it is almost too perfect :))) Love your play of words
You’re way too kind.
I was looking at their website and their other mics. They look a lot like Rode microphones. Do we know if rode manufacturers them for joby?
I could be totally wrong, but from what I know Rode doesn't manufacture anything for other companies. But their Videomic design definitely became pretty iconic, so it doesn't surprise me that there are A LOT of similar looking options out there (it's also just a practical design, so I'm sure that plays into it too).
Your patience and time invested is highly appreciated Tom, great rundown!
I did NOT mean for this to be a 30 minute video 😬
Is it just me or after updating the firmware with the app, does it disable the physical buttons, and full use without the app? My +10, +20 physical buttons no longer ever since pairing the app, and updating the firmware.
Hey Tom, out of curiosity. Have you done a full EQ & Compression for this microphone? I hear that you can trade & share settings via the app. If you have, would you be interested in a collab for best settings using this mic as an on camera vlog camera?
May the 4th be with you
And also with you.
Hello Tom!
Could you please make the comparison of Rode Video mic NTG vs Senheiser MKE400.
Thank you!
I don’t have the 400 myself 😬
@@tombuck This is so hard to choose between NTG and MKE400 😅
Do you think NTG is still good option for 2023?
It was released couple of years ago, in my amature point of view it seems like outdated haha.
I loved the “live dog” as a wind muff. Better than a “dead cat”
I like it. Someone also suggested “Wind Wig” which I liked 😁
6:28 It definitely helped, but not a massive difference. (listening on Philips Fidelio X2HR)
8:42 Yes, I heard some hiss. plus 10 sounded great at normal volume on my pc, but once I turned it up to max it too got hiss. Barely any at the shot with the mic being shown 9:03 played at max volume. But I don't listen at that high volume.I guess software might be ble to remove the hiss.
10:54 yes, people shooting mountain bike videos, how tos, how to do techniques or do some work of some kind like wood work or something, but in these scenarios it's better to wear a mic like you do. Which works well. But this mic performed quite well even for this extreme distance. So good to know it will work ok in an emergency.
2:54 I am guessing this app is just for controlling the mic. not using it with phone wirelessly. or is it? Not something I will do anyway.
As always, I learn a lot from,and enjoy, your videos. Thank you for all your efforts to create a top notch product.
Thanks Mark!
just to confirm when you're at arms length etc outside, you are using a 24mm lens?
Yes 👍
I bought a rode ntg, and it clips so easily. Has anyone experienced the same thing?
I usually try keeping the camera's audio levels set very low and then adjust with the mic. With my Sony cameras, that usually means the gain is on like a 3, and then the NTG is around 8 on the back dial.
Being able to plug a lav mic into it is pretty cool!
Yeah! I really like that option. It’s way more useful than you’d expect.
the value of your content is incredible! I think every possible question or curiosity I had for shotgun mics were solved!! ty!!
Your camera colors which camera lens and lights are u using…?
Thanks! My main camera is the FX3 with the Sony 24 1.4 lens 👍
Why not include the Sennheiser MKE 400 in the mix?
I actually don’t have that one. I tried for a bit and it really didn’t work well for me. I’ve heard others use it with great results, but I could never get it sounding good.
@@tombuck Ah. I've been hoping for a good comparison video somewhere with it before I bought a new on cam mic. I'm still using my old Shure LensHopper VP83. :D
Nice review, I just would've liked to see the Mke-600 included in your comparison
I don’t have that one, but it’s also a super nice mic.
Great job as always comparing all those mics. Rode still is king for me as far as sound and I love my Sony ecm-b1m for every thing else it is lol 😂
It’s tough to beat the convenience of the Sony!
@@tombuck for sure!
A very useful video. Thanks for sharing !
Exactly.