Black Bart was right. I was 13 years old and it was a month from Starrcade '86 when the accident happened. It was going to be Magnum vs. Flair. Then the NWA changed. Sad.
"Wrestling don't owe me a dad-gum thing." If you're looking for the difference between my wrestling was great back of the day and how it is now, It can be pretty much summed up in those seven words.
| watched wresting back in the late 70s and never really paid any attention to Black Bart because he seemed like a stand in. Now that I am listening to him give good insight on all these other wrestlers. Now I wish I would have paid more attention to him. It is great to listen to his stories of these guys.
@@tonyh1718 possibly. I could have definitely seen McMahon taking an interest in him and he being in WWF for a while. He definitely would have been NWA champion but Flairs legacy would have still lived on and he would have still gotten the title back.
I remember watching Magnum TA when he was on Florida Championship Wrestling. He had 5 Florida Tag Team Championships. I remember ALSO when he went to Jim Crockett and he had 2 US Championships. His Best Of Seven series with Nikita Koloff was incredible. Shortly after that, he had his car wreck and ALL we can talk about NOW is What Might Have Been!
@@TitleMatchWrestling hahaha I've been watching these videos non-stop. Yes, including watching the same ones more than 3 times. I'm not ashamed. haha Thank you so much for doing these.
Magnum never got hurt. Crockett be in business today. Remember Magnum was 26 when got in accident. He had over 15 years in the biz if that did not happen.
well we know that Magnum would have won the belt back at Starrcade 86. That qas already the plan. Magnum-Flair would have been the marquee feud for JCP throughout 87. Garvin never wins the World title, Luger and Windham end up feuding, and Sting doesn't get the monster push he received in 1988-90. Steamboat and Funk never get World title programs. Magnums injury changed literally everything.
These guys spend so much time driving. Shows could be 100's of miles apart, from night to night. Not too long after Magnum's accident, I used to ride along with Chris Champion and Sean Royal, when they worked with NWA as "The New Breed". I was taking pictures for a couple of wrestling magazines. "The New Breed" had a long running feud, at the time with "The Midnight Express", and were set to get the straps. Lucky for me, I was not in the car the night of their accident. They totaled their car on a wet highway. Chris Champion went thru the windshield, breaking his arm, among other injuries. Both guys were hurt pretty bad. Out of business for quite a while, at the worst time, career wise. Sean came back for a very short time after, but then called it quits, got out of the business. Chris came back, wrestled with his arm in a plaster cast for a while. He stayed in the business for many more years, but was never at the level he had been at with "The New Breed".
Magnum would have been bigger than Hogan and Sting combined, he had looks, mic appeal, the build, he knew how to sell and above all he knew how to wrestle
I love these Black Bart video's as well. I think he has these dates and years messed up when he said that brought Dusty back into it from Vince. It was Dusty and Magnum with The Road Warriors against the 4 Horseman. Dusty did not go to Vince till almost 3 1/2 yrs later. Who benefited was Nikita Koloff because he had just gotten the US belt from Magnum in the best of seven at the Great American Bash. When Dusty came out with a mystery partner it was Nikita and it drew. They also brought in Barry Windham before Sting and Luger. Great hearing these though plus I do think Magnum was in for a big NWA title run.
You're so wrong, it's painful. 1. Dusty was going bankrupt after losing $150k in the PWF, Vince's generosity allowed him to get back on his feet financially. Vince didn't have to give Dusty a big contract, yet he still did; 2. Vince made him a people's champion, and always treated him as a big star. Look at his entire WWF run, Dusty was never jobbed out or treated as less than a star; 3. Vince gave him some of the greatest heels to work with (Savage, Dibiase, Honky, Boss man, Martel, etc), and some big matches on PPV; 4. Dusty won his Wrestlemania match against an icon like Macho man; 5. Dusty was given one of the most memorable entrance theme ever; 6. Dusty made plenty of extra money thanks to merchandise, something he never did when he was with Jim Crockett Promotions; 7. Vince allowed Dustin to work a few matches with his father, something Dustin was never allowed to do when Dusty was working for Turner in 1989; See? See all the good stuff Vince did for Dusty? So stop spreading that nonsense out of hatred for McMahon, Dusty's WWF run was awesome and allowed him to keep his house and feed his family.
I agree with most of what Black Bart said regarding Mahnum T.A. unfortunately I had a few situations that I interacted with him online regarding the GCW territory, and Florida Territory.
If I were granted three wishes, one of them would be that Magnum TA and Brock Lesnar would switch places or more precisely switch futures. Magnum TA defeats Ric Flair and wins the NWA World Championship and Brock Lesnar ends up in the car accident that forces him out of wrestling before his undeserved title match with The Rock at Summerslam.
Remember when it happened as I live a few miles from there. I thought it was just B.S. until all the news media showed the pics. My first hero was magnum and then Lex Luger
Magnum not getting in a car crash would have meant no Steamboat/Flair classics. Garvin not getting the strap. The big gold belt was made for Magnum imo.
It’s also so tragic because prior to his wreck, Magnum was to win the U.S. Title for the third time before being groomed to become the next NWA World Heavyweight Champion.
On Top of that ; Ric Flair Said when His wife and His girlfriend at the time came in the Hospital at the Same time ; and He couldnt Talk. Ric Flair told this on Steve Austin s Podcast
The fact that Dusty Rhodes got those polka dots over like he did says all you need to know. It made Dusty fun again and colorful. That's why he was so loved in Florida during the 1970's. Nobody could've survived that gimmick and gotten it over except Dusty in my opinion. Vince McMahon knew that he couldn't destroy Dusty when that happened.
Love listen to him talk. You never be able take the country out of Black Bart. Wonder where his parents was from? I know he born at Ft. Bragg. Some words I heard him say I not heard from when my grandparents died.
At the time Magnum TA was wrestling I never saw him wrestle because the WWF ran Detroit area promotions then and only followed Magnum thur the magazines. Magnum TA was being groom to be biggest Star for the next generation but faith step in so we'll never know.
Then again a smaller person might have made a full recovery too, Magnum was a 265 pound tall/big man, when that car hit the telephone pole there was no wiggle room what so ever for a man that size in a car that small. I believe a 175 pound man most likely would have made a full recovery.
One thing that I don't get about this: Right around or after the accident, Black Bart had left Charlotte and showed up in Dallas with the World Class Heavyweight Title. Must have been a phantom tournament.
@@chrischar1969 Eventually dropped it to Kevin Von Erich. Sadly, World Class was down at the time as the effects of leaving the NWA was beginning to show. Who wouldn't have loved to have seen Flair vs. Kevin one more time. I mean, they had overdone Bruiser Brody vs. Abdullah the Butcher. And then there was the idiotic looking Dingo Warrior. Yes, he would later hit paydirt in the WWE as The Ultimate Warrior. Plus he was billed from Australia. Maybe when he came to WWE, Vince should have paired him up with Outback Jack.
@@brianezell5790 Damn straight. Sting was much more modern by those standards, much more charismatic, looked better, better promo, more exciting in the ring, the whole nine yards.
@@brianezell5790 The injury of Magnum TA was a moment in wrestling history that literally changed the trajectory of professional wrestling. Magnum TA had the "it" factor and I was watching wrestling during this period. Sting went on to have a phenomenal career and I was a huge Sting fan but had Magnum never had his injury then he would likely had have a greater influence on the long term impact on wrestling history than Sting did. That was how much of the "it" factor and potential Magnum had. Magnum was on the Hogan, Rock and Austin level of charisma.
Magnum TA would have been as big as, or even bigger than Hulk Hogan, I seen a lot of his early work on UA-cam and it was clear to me that he was bigger than Ric Flair. Sting was good, same with Nakita, but they were not in Magnums league. Old Bart was right, the NWA started going down hill from there on out after the accident, the NWA had a star who I believe would have been bigger than Hogan and on a rainy night it was all gone.
Magnum had the "it" factor and I would say he could work a crowd like Hogan, the Rock and Austin. However, as much as Magnum not being injured would have changed the whole landscape and history of professional wrestling-I think it is impossible to be a bigger star than Hogan was at the time.
Imagine wrestle war with magnum instead of dusty. He was the perfect foe for Flair at the time n would have given wwf a run for its money before WCW....
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Sting would have been a big star either way .He was just too athletic and charismatic Same with luger while he was not an extraordinary worker ,he had an extraordinary physique
@@priyadarshidash4353 Luger was a victim of WWF trying to turn him in to Hogan. When i feel like he worked better as a heel. His WCW tirle reign with Harley Race as his manager was good stuff.
this was a terrible tragedy that ended magnum ta's career. He could have had A great career, countless women, countless money and fame, all taken away because he went too fast for the road conditions. Terrible.
@@priyadarshidash4353 Sting would still be good regardless, but Magnum was a bigger star, respected in the locker room and very well liked. Its a toss up. Imaging a Sting Vs Magnum battle in the 90's....Now, I would pay a ticket for that If it wasn't for Magnum's accident.
Oh no, the wrestling world was split up into territories back then, the WWF was strictly North East, the NWA was branching out into the Mid South, deep south and south west. Virginia to the Mississippi and everything south was a much bigger audience than the NE clown show could ever gather.
This crash actually benefitted NWA/WCW in the long run. Magnum was too old-school to be WCW's guy for more than a couple years. People say he would have been as big as Sting but that's just total bull. Magnum didn't have that mainstream appeal that Sting had.
i hear that magnum was to beat flair at starrcade 86? i dont doubt it but yet ? guys how long u think he keeps the belt? kerry 2.5 weeks/dusty 2 weeks/garvin month.5? so how long does magnum get a run with the belt everybody damm well knows flair would have politicking n bitchin to get that belt back!!!!
No one knows when Magnum would have won that World title, Magnum himself has no idea when he was going to win it. When you look at the shows leading to Starrcade 86, seems like Magnum was going to feud with Jimmy Garvin or someone other than Ric, so honestly it's not even sure he was going to indeed face Ric at Starrcade. My best bet is that Magnum would have won the belt during the Bash tour of 1987, during the summer. But no one knows for sure.
@@jonathanturbide2232 well on the starrcade dvd magnum said he flew to nyc to talk to dusty about the plans remember nikita is the us champ now so it makes sense that magnum takes on flair and gets a reign i just wonder how long he would have held the title ohh wwf is still beating us put the belt back on flair lolol thats what they always did.
@Kingdom of the Son of God That would make sense, Magnum gets the US title first and then would have faced Flair later in 87 to win the World title.....but then, who was Flair supposed to face at Starrcade 86?
@Kingdom of the Son of God Damn....that would have been so underwhelming, then again the real main-event was the Skywalker match so I guess Flair-Garvin would have been a filler.
@Kingdom of the Son of God Yeah apparently Flair and Garvin did great numbers at house shows together, and Flair truly enjoyed working with Ronnie so I kinda understand why they went with Ron....but as you said, they did a very very poor job at selling Garvin as a legit World champion and they had no idea how to market him/his reign as something meaningful, having a paper champ in the main-event of your biggest PPV is just a stupid nonsensical decision.
He sound like a Damn fool these guys get hurt from these moves all of a sudden they cant work anymore..while you can't wrestle no more they get the next guy to replace you the Wrestling Companies get Richer...happens all the time.
@@tonyh1718 I grew up around wrestling when they used to come to High Schools and Wrestle. seeing Tony Atlas Tommy Wildfire Rich the Fabulous Freebirds..everybody has a opinion and i feel he is wrong.
You're fucking nuts. The man got more tail then flair and the Rock and roll express combined. Flair himself has said so. Every match he ever had with Nikita koloff who was greener then grass was a sell out. You're either clueless to history or you're just trolling. Anyway you look at it you're just plain wrong.
He was over before he came to jcp. He was groomed in fla, he was polished in mid-south. He headline several. Big shows in the superdome and astrodome before he got jcp 30-35000 crowds. You right he didnt draw a dime. He drew them dolla dollar bills. Lol midsouth folded not long after he left.
I watched Magnum T.A. vs. Nikita Koloff at the Norfolk Scope in 1985. Magnum bit a chunk out of Nikita's head and then proceeded to spit the chunk of skin over top of the cage... Chainlink cage, not that crappy climb over the top to win cage. You had to pin or submit to determine a winner. That climb out to win is a BS match... I refer to Paul Orndorff vs. Hulk Hogan match when they hit the floor at the same time... Inconclusive crap.
The purpose of the old cage match was that it was a glorified lastman standing match the concept is glorious the wwwf/wwe use of non chain fence was but yes going over top didnt make sense but walking out door did...but for dramatic sake climb over yes has its emotional advantages.....
@M M You can't tell me he wasn't about to drop an N-bomb like he was just shooting the shit with his buds. He's a Baby-Boomer, though. Unless he was all about "Flower Power," he was just another product of his time. I'm not Black or anything but that's just how it is, was
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I remember Magnum TA’s car crash like it was yesterday. So heartbroken.
Jeff Duarte i never knew he was in a crash I watched nwa a lot as a kid wwf as well
DUARTE Me too, I was devastated when I found out:(
Always wondered what happened to magnum.
i was young kid and was my favorite when he crashed it hurt my soul as akid
Terry wasn't under the influence, it was raining, and the model of Porches he drove didn't do well in the rain
The man speaks simply and honestly. Bless him.
The one who benefited the most from Magnum's accident was Ric Flair. Crockett Promotions put everything behind Flair after Magnum was gone!
That's it...
David von Erich and magnum's death helped ric stay on top a little longer
ummmmm no....Flair had the belt how many times
@@rotgut242 Terry Allen aka Magnum TA is still alive. He just had a bad car accident.
@@BrotherDerrick3X i just meant david.. Typing too fast
Black Bart was right. I was 13 years old and it was a month from Starrcade '86 when the accident happened. It was going to be Magnum vs. Flair. Then the NWA changed. Sad.
Yeah no
No truer words were said about a moment in professional wrestling, about the Magnum T.A. car accident.
I can listen to him talk all day about wrestling this is great
"Wrestling don't owe me a dad-gum thing."
If you're looking for the difference between my wrestling was great back of the day and how it is now, It can be pretty much summed up in those seven words.
These Black Bart videos have been great!
"Pokey Dots" is my new favorite word.
I don't know "shoved it up vince's cocky chuky chuk chuk" might have it beat
@@denisashby5589 🤣🤣👍
@@denisashby5589 Hard to choose I think.
| watched wresting back in the late 70s and never really paid any attention to Black Bart because he seemed like a stand in. Now that I am listening to him give good insight on all these other wrestlers. Now I wish I would have paid more attention to him. It is great to listen to his stories of these guys.
Magnum TA was going to be the Next NWA Champion for a long time
Yep..he was already a shoo in for the championship.
@@benjaminlucas1635 Magnum TA was too good, He had too many Fans The Belt would not have been easily given up after he Won it (Just my opinion 😊)
@@myronmalikisaiah8897 true
Magnum not getting hurt snd provided he didnt leave for wwe would be the top guy til 93 or so, then sting
@@tonyh1718 possibly. I could have definitely seen McMahon taking an interest in him and he being in WWF for a while. He definitely would have been NWA champion but Flairs legacy would have still lived on and he would have still gotten the title back.
I remember watching Magnum TA when he was on Florida Championship Wrestling. He had 5 Florida Tag Team Championships. I remember ALSO when he went to Jim Crockett and he had 2 US Championships. His Best Of Seven series with Nikita Koloff was incredible. Shortly after that, he had his car wreck and ALL we can talk about NOW is What Might Have Been!
I remember seeing Magnum body slam Abdullah the Butcher, i was like damn!!!
I bet Abdullah kicked his ass most of that match lol
Magnum slammed Kamala as well!
That does it. Black Bart needs a videoed podcast NOW. I can't get enough of him!
Consider this his new video podcast 😊
@@TitleMatchWrestling hahaha I've been non-stop watching him, yes including the same videos more than 3 times. I'm not ashamed.
@@TitleMatchWrestling hahaha I've been watching these videos non-stop. Yes, including watching the same ones more than 3 times. I'm not ashamed. haha Thank you so much for doing these.
Love it brother! So glad you're enjoying them, lot more to drop soon
Black Bart is an absolute GEM!! 💎
Magnum never got hurt. Crockett be in business today. Remember Magnum was 26 when got in accident. He had over 15 years in the biz if that did not happen.
how many airplanes would the fatman have crockett buy?
Longer than that if he strung it out like Hogan and Flair did.
Black Bart is one of my favorites with Ron bass they were nice in the early 80s thank you sir appreciate it
One of my favorites back in the early 80s black Bart
Imagine an alternate timeline if Magnum never had that accident. Events would have changed the course of history.
well we know that Magnum would have won the belt back at Starrcade 86. That qas already the plan. Magnum-Flair would have been the marquee feud for JCP throughout 87. Garvin never wins the World title, Luger and Windham end up feuding, and Sting doesn't get the monster push he received in 1988-90. Steamboat and Funk never get World title programs. Magnums injury changed literally everything.
These guys spend so much time driving. Shows could be 100's of miles apart, from night to night.
Not too long after Magnum's accident, I used to ride along with Chris Champion and Sean Royal, when they worked with NWA as "The New Breed". I was taking pictures for a couple of wrestling magazines.
"The New Breed" had a long running feud, at the time with "The Midnight Express", and were set to get the straps. Lucky for me, I was not in the car the night of their accident. They totaled their car on a wet highway. Chris Champion went thru the windshield, breaking his arm, among other injuries. Both guys were hurt pretty bad. Out of business for quite a while, at the worst time, career wise.
Sean came back for a very short time after, but then called it quits, got out of the business. Chris came back, wrestled with his arm in a plaster cast for a while. He stayed in the business for many more years, but was never at the level he had been at with "The New Breed".
Man......Black Bart is right up there in as the most interesting interview ever.
Magnum TA was my favorite in NWA. I was watching World Wide when they announced he had been in a car accident ...
Bart is the truth love his interview's he's real.
I always said Sting had the career Magnum should of had.
Possible
...should have...not should of...notice the 've in should've and not an of?
@@grunt-sw8si haha grammar nazism is still alive
Except, Sting would've been their #1 babyface regardless.
Magnum would have been bigger than Hogan and Sting combined, he had looks, mic appeal, the build, he knew how to sell and above all he knew how to wrestle
I LOVED Magnum TA as a kid. Man I hated when he couldn't wrestle anymore
I love these Black Bart video's as well.
I think he has these dates and years messed up when he said that brought Dusty back into it from Vince.
It was Dusty and Magnum with The Road Warriors against the 4 Horseman.
Dusty did not go to Vince till almost 3 1/2 yrs later.
Who benefited was Nikita Koloff because he had just gotten the US belt from Magnum in the best of seven at the Great American Bash.
When Dusty came out with a mystery partner it was Nikita and it drew.
They also brought in Barry Windham before Sting and Luger.
Great hearing these though plus I do think Magnum was in for a big NWA title run.
Love Black Bart, yes, Magnum was on fire and on his way up until that accident. He definitely was great.
Black Bart to be on a episode of Hoarders
I'm really enjoying the Black Bart interviews.👍👌
I remember magnum ta when in 80's in tampa fl as just terry Allen he
In the late 70s and maybe in 80 he worked Houston as Terry Allen
I always hated what Vince did to Dusty. Just pure egotistical bully.
?. Does the pokedots and being put with a black woman equal the same amount of negativity? It certainly sounded like it did coming out of his mouth.
You're so wrong, it's painful.
1. Dusty was going bankrupt after losing $150k in the PWF, Vince's generosity allowed him to get back on his feet financially. Vince didn't have to give Dusty a big contract, yet he still did;
2. Vince made him a people's champion, and always treated him as a big star. Look at his entire WWF run, Dusty was never jobbed out or treated as less than a star;
3. Vince gave him some of the greatest heels to work with (Savage, Dibiase, Honky, Boss man, Martel, etc), and some big matches on PPV;
4. Dusty won his Wrestlemania match against an icon like Macho man;
5. Dusty was given one of the most memorable entrance theme ever;
6. Dusty made plenty of extra money thanks to merchandise, something he never did when he was with Jim Crockett Promotions;
7. Vince allowed Dustin to work a few matches with his father, something Dustin was never allowed to do when Dusty was working for Turner in 1989;
See? See all the good stuff Vince did for Dusty? So stop spreading that nonsense out of hatred for McMahon, Dusty's WWF run was awesome and allowed him to keep his house and feed his family.
When I was 11 I enjoyed Dusty in that polka dot outfit, he owned that character.
I agree with most of what Black Bart said regarding Mahnum T.A. unfortunately I had a few situations that I interacted with him online regarding the GCW territory, and Florida Territory.
Black Bart is a comedian.. Love his character
no doubt about it that Magnum TA was going to be a superstar and a legend in wrestling,,,he was that good
If I were granted three wishes, one of them would be that Magnum TA and Brock Lesnar would switch places or more precisely switch futures. Magnum TA defeats Ric Flair and wins the NWA World Championship and Brock Lesnar ends up in the car accident that forces him out of wrestling before his undeserved title match with The Rock at Summerslam.
Remember when it happened as I live a few miles from there. I thought it was just B.S. until all the news media showed the pics. My first hero was magnum and then Lex Luger
wow what a interview
Magnum not getting in a car crash would have meant no Steamboat/Flair classics. Garvin not getting the strap. The big gold belt was made for Magnum imo.
It’s also so tragic because prior to his wreck, Magnum was to win the U.S. Title for the third time before being groomed to become the next NWA World Heavyweight Champion.
Magnum T.A. was going to be next NWA Champion.
On Top of that ; Ric Flair Said when His wife and His girlfriend at the time came in the Hospital at the Same time ; and He couldnt Talk. Ric Flair told this on Steve Austin s Podcast
The fact that Dusty Rhodes got those polka dots over like he did says all you need to know. It made Dusty fun again and colorful. That's why he was so loved in Florida during the 1970's. Nobody could've survived that gimmick and gotten it over except Dusty in my opinion. Vince McMahon knew that he couldn't destroy Dusty when that happened.
McMahon tried to punish all the Rhodes but he failed!
Love listen to him talk. You never be able take the country out of Black Bart. Wonder where his parents was from? I know he born at Ft. Bragg. Some words I heard him say I not heard from when my grandparents died.
Side note: anyone else think that Steve Austin got the career Magnum was supposed to have?
UMMM NO
Magnum had that Stone Cold energy way back in 86, you can't compare it like you did but he got over in a really similar way
No I think Magnum would've been a major player over the next Era
Steven Austin wasn't shit in the NWA, his career took off when Hogan jump over to WCW and Vince needed a new super star ASAP
Stone cold never played a character that was the real him
At the time Magnum TA was wrestling I never saw him wrestle because the WWF ran Detroit area promotions then and only followed Magnum thur the magazines. Magnum TA was being groom to be biggest Star for the next generation but faith step in so we'll never know.
An ordinary man like me would have died.
He was in peak form and ma nature could not ignore that.
Then again a smaller person might have made a full recovery too, Magnum was a 265 pound tall/big man, when that car hit the telephone pole there was no wiggle room what so ever for a man that size in a car that small. I believe a 175 pound man most likely would have made a full recovery.
Magnum TA = Magnum P.I. !!! (tom sellect of wrestling)
More like Tom Sellect meets Hulk Hogan. Magnum use to kill 'em with that Belly-to-Belly Supflex.
Selleck
The both had mustaches and both names Magnum
Magnum PI stole magnum TA s name
@@stylingprofiling9947 Then Scott Hall stole Magnum's name.
Black Bart is telling the TRUTH!
....btw had one of best Finishing Moves Ever....The Texas Trash Compactor!
That incident opened the door for Lex Luger
One thing that I don't get about this: Right around or after the accident, Black Bart had left Charlotte and showed up in Dallas with the World Class Heavyweight Title. Must have been a phantom tournament.
phantom single match in LA
@@chrischar1969 Eventually dropped it to Kevin Von Erich. Sadly, World Class was down at the time as the effects of leaving the NWA was beginning to show. Who wouldn't have loved to have seen Flair vs. Kevin one more time. I mean, they had overdone Bruiser Brody vs. Abdullah the Butcher. And then there was the idiotic looking Dingo Warrior. Yes, he would later hit paydirt in the WWE as The Ultimate Warrior. Plus he was billed from Australia. Maybe when he came to WWE, Vince should have paired him up with Outback Jack.
He was one of my favourite s
Great interview. Cant help but wonder what it would be like with flair and Magnum in the same organization.
Dennis Mullins they were back then
At the great American bash
Sting was the second coming of Magnum TA. History would be completely different had he not got in that accident.
Sting was bigger than Magnum TA would have ever been.
No it wouldn't. Sting would have risen to the top either way.
@@brianezell5790 Damn straight. Sting was much more modern by those standards, much more charismatic, looked better, better promo, more exciting in the ring, the whole nine yards.
@@brianezell5790 The injury of Magnum TA was a moment in wrestling history that literally changed the trajectory of professional wrestling. Magnum TA had the "it" factor and I was watching wrestling during this period. Sting went on to have a phenomenal career and I was a huge Sting fan but had Magnum never had his injury then he would likely had have a greater influence on the long term impact on wrestling history than Sting did. That was how much of the "it" factor and potential Magnum had. Magnum was on the Hogan, Rock and Austin level of charisma.
@@jasonh5547 no way Magnum would have been bigger than Sting. Sting is more charismatic, a better worker in his prime, a better look, everything.
Where is black Bart living now looks down south.
Wetherford, Texas
I wonder if Magnum, didn’t have that accident, would we have seen the birth of the “Super Powers” (Dusty and Nikita)??
Never knew Magnum was stoned when it happened!
Some Americans call drunk "stoned", but pot and coke were also rampant back then
Ill go with someone who was there. And coke was heavy used back late 80's. Barts a well traveled man he know stone.
He was not stoned or drunk. When they tested him he had nothing in his system.
I guess I’m not surprised
Because he wasn't.
Passionate.
If Magnum Didn't Have The Wreck He Woulda Been World Champ.
Damn true
Blink and you while miss TA's matches.
I truly believe that Magnum would have been bigger than Hogan.
Not a chance. Magnum TA had nowhere near the charisma of Hulk Hogan.
DAVID MITCHELL he would have been comparable that’s for sure.
Same here
Magnum TA would have been as big as, or even bigger than Hulk Hogan, I seen a lot of his early work on UA-cam and it was clear to me that he was bigger than Ric Flair. Sting was good, same with Nakita, but they were not in Magnums league. Old Bart was right, the NWA started going down hill from there on out after the accident, the NWA had a star who I believe would have been bigger than Hogan and on a rainy night it was all gone.
Magnum had the "it" factor and I would say he could work a crowd like Hogan, the Rock and Austin. However, as much as Magnum not being injured would have changed the whole landscape and history of professional wrestling-I think it is impossible to be a bigger star than Hogan was at the time.
Whats wrong with putting dusty with a black woman?
Want to know the answer myself...
Not one thing
wolverinebesthero It wasn’t exactly Dark Journey they put him with, it was a fat old black lady. They did it to embarrass him.
Imagine wrestle war with magnum instead of dusty. He was the perfect foe for Flair at the time n would have given wwf a run for its money before WCW....
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Magnum was supposed to win the belt at starrcad 86 , the only reason Nikita was turning good guy was because of magnums injuries !!!!
Magnum T.A. was supposed to be bigger then Sting. Sting and Luger got their chance though becasue of his accident
...bigger than not bigger then...
@@grunt-sw8si yes i check all the UA-cam comments i make from my phone for spelling and punctuation
@@billshamrock449 I usually just tell the assholes like grunt to fuck off
Sting would have been a big star either way .He was just too athletic and charismatic
Same with luger while he was not an extraordinary worker ,he had an extraordinary physique
@@priyadarshidash4353 Luger was a victim of WWF trying to turn him in to Hogan. When i feel like he worked better as a heel. His WCW tirle reign with Harley Race as his manager was good stuff.
It caused. Nikita K. To turn face and I think took over for Magnum TA
That situation made Nikita Koloff a huge face.
That boys thick boy Hes thick boy. Thick boy.
I'll be darned. 🤠🐎
Little did Vince no that he made everyone love dusty rhodes😅
Black Bart gives no fucks love it
this was a terrible tragedy that ended magnum ta's career. He could have had A great career, countless women, countless money and fame, all taken away because he went too fast for the road conditions. Terrible.
Sting got Magnums career in all honesty. If it wasn't for this accident, Magnum would of been the wrestler of the 90's for NWA/WcW.
But sting would have been a big star either way .He was just too charismatic and athletic
@@priyadarshidash4353 Sting would still be good regardless, but Magnum was a bigger star, respected in the locker room and very well liked. Its a toss up. Imaging a Sting Vs Magnum battle in the 90's....Now, I would pay a ticket for that If it wasn't for Magnum's accident.
I gave wrestling nothing. Except my whole everything
This is your Brain on Drugs kids!!!!!lmao
I respect Bart's point of view on this
MAGNUM TA
Tessa just made history
So Magnum was "stoned", huh?
Sure looks like a Porsche to me???
100 % it was a Porsche
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Pokee dots!
The nwa was a strong number 2 when the accident happened.
Oh no, the wrestling world was split up into territories back then, the WWF was strictly North East, the NWA was branching out into the Mid South, deep south and south west. Virginia to the Mississippi and everything south was a much bigger audience than the NE clown show could ever gather.
Wwf was national by 86. Nwa was kind of national in 86 because it aired on tbs
This crash actually benefitted NWA/WCW in the long run. Magnum was too old-school to be WCW's guy for more than a couple years. People say he would have been as big as Sting but that's just total bull. Magnum didn't have that mainstream appeal that Sting had.
@@DGS_1992 LMAO, no way was Magnum ever going to be as big as Flair. He lacked any sort of personality or charisma.
@@DGS_1992 WRONG. He was just another generic territory wrestler.
@@DGS_1992 Jim Cornette thought the REVIVAL were a top tier tag team! I can't take him seriously at all.
He was bigger than Sting
@@dibslin985 damn son you special kind of stupid
Black Bart sounds like Dutch mantell
i hear that magnum was to beat flair at starrcade 86? i dont doubt it but yet ? guys how long u think he keeps the belt? kerry 2.5 weeks/dusty 2 weeks/garvin month.5? so how long does magnum get a run with the belt everybody damm well knows flair would have politicking n bitchin to get that belt back!!!!
No one knows when Magnum would have won that World title, Magnum himself has no idea when he was going to win it. When you look at the shows leading to Starrcade 86, seems like Magnum was going to feud with Jimmy Garvin or someone other than Ric, so honestly it's not even sure he was going to indeed face Ric at Starrcade. My best bet is that Magnum would have won the belt during the Bash tour of 1987, during the summer. But no one knows for sure.
@@jonathanturbide2232 well on the starrcade dvd magnum said he flew to nyc to talk to dusty about the plans remember nikita is the us champ now so it makes sense that magnum takes on flair and gets a reign i just wonder how long he would have held the title ohh wwf is still beating us put the belt back on flair lolol thats what they always did.
@Kingdom of the Son of God That would make sense, Magnum gets the US title first and then would have faced Flair later in 87 to win the World title.....but then, who was Flair supposed to face at Starrcade 86?
@Kingdom of the Son of God Damn....that would have been so underwhelming, then again the real main-event was the Skywalker match so I guess Flair-Garvin would have been a filler.
@Kingdom of the Son of God Yeah apparently Flair and Garvin did great numbers at house shows together, and Flair truly enjoyed working with Ronnie so I kinda understand why they went with Ron....but as you said, they did a very very poor job at selling Garvin as a legit World champion and they had no idea how to market him/his reign as something meaningful, having a paper champ in the main-event of your biggest PPV is just a stupid nonsensical decision.
He sound like a Damn fool these guys get hurt from these moves all of a sudden they cant work anymore..while you can't wrestle no more they get the next guy to replace you the Wrestling Companies get Richer...happens all the time.
Sounds like someone who wasnt around then
If you were, youd agree
@@tonyh1718 I grew up around wrestling when they used to come to High Schools and Wrestle. seeing Tony Atlas Tommy Wildfire Rich the Fabulous Freebirds..everybody has a opinion and i feel he is wrong.
What a shame! Having a black woman as a valet/manager is considered an insult! Wow! We’ve got to do better people!
Sad that derailed his career...he was heading to Flair..Steamboat level
Wow like Mike Tyson knocked out every one..just getting put over
Magnum got a push because he was Dusty's buddy. Couldn't draw a dime
You're fucking nuts. The man got more tail then flair and the Rock and roll express combined. Flair himself has said so. Every match he ever had with Nikita koloff who was greener then grass was a sell out. You're either clueless to history or you're just trolling. Anyway you look at it you're just plain wrong.
He was over before he came to jcp. He was groomed in fla, he was polished in mid-south. He headline several. Big shows in the superdome and astrodome before he got jcp 30-35000 crowds. You right he didnt draw a dime. He drew them dolla dollar bills. Lol midsouth folded not long after he left.
I watched Magnum T.A. vs. Nikita Koloff at the Norfolk Scope in 1985. Magnum bit a chunk out of Nikita's head and then proceeded to spit the chunk of skin over top of the cage... Chainlink cage, not that crappy climb over the top to win cage. You had to pin or submit to determine a winner. That climb out to win is a BS match... I refer to Paul Orndorff vs. Hulk Hogan match when they hit the floor at the same time... Inconclusive crap.
The purpose of the old cage match was that it was a glorified lastman standing match the concept is glorious the wwwf/wwe use of non chain fence was but yes going over top didnt make sense but walking out door did...but for dramatic sake climb over yes has its emotional advantages.....
You aren't a damn promoter why do you care what someone draw?
It was proven that Magnum TA had no drugs nor alcohol in his system when he had his accident!
Magnum Edition Porsche
Pokey dots lol
Got a little uneasy when he said "that Black woman." Nothing patently offensive, though. Barely. He's of a certain age, though and I'd give him a pass
@M M You can't tell me he wasn't about to drop an N-bomb like he was just shooting the shit with his buds. He's a Baby-Boomer, though. Unless he was all about "Flower Power," he was just another product of his time. I'm not Black or anything but that's just how it is, was
Tar bungbung
Magnum can walk a lol hr has a dead arm though but he been overcame total paralysis.
Why was Dusty with a black women a problem?? His son Cody married a black women.🧐