The Origin of the Bronze Age Collapse
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- Опубліковано 11 кві 2020
- In this episode I bring you the first episode of a three part series on the Bronze Age Collapse from none other than The Maritime History Podcast!
We explore the beginning of the Late Bronze Age Collapse by discussing trade, shipwrecks, the arrival of the Sea Peoples, Hittite-Egyptian Relations, the rise of the Assyrian Empire and so very much more!
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man this video is so well done on so many levels, but i want to especially commend your speech; it's enjoyably conversational and relaxed. EXACTLY what i look for in a documentary.
Your like Dan Carlin with visuals and without sounding like your narrating an action movie trailer.
I'm loving the emphasis on "theory" and "best attempt by modern archeology to reconstruct". I'm sure the disclaimer is boring to some, but it made me really willing to hear what was to follow
Being honest with your audience about where and when ones evidence is less robust, builds credibility, and adds scientific weight to any conclusions you might come to.
Totally agree.
Erik Hasler I think it’s not “ theory” it’s actually “hypothesising “
Please, please do a collab with the fall of civilizations podcast, they just did an episode about the collapse
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This has long been a fascinating period of history to me. Thank you for doing these posts - they're very good, and help sort out the various players involved.
Very good. I have some issues re. the Greek chronology though but overall quite good. Thanks.
Ethnicity of the Sea People is the best thing I have ever seen on this subject. It's written by a Dutch archeologist and really goes in depth from ancient written sources and conjecture of course.
vin russo referring to Doctor Woudhuizen?
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Yep.
Plural: PEOPLESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!
They're the original White people
They are gentiles / Dans with gifts/ Saxxons
It's always enlightening to return to the knowledge that for most of history humanity was by and large dependent on sea travel to communicate, trade or war with our neighbours. Our modern world with excellent land communications has made us forget how different the world looks when seen from the rivers, seas and oceans. This was brilliant, thank you.
i speculate that it was the depletion of ship building timber that contributed to the Bronze Age Collapse.
Yay! A Bronze-Age Collapse video! It's an important era to consider in our currently interconnected world.
Great work! So excited for what’s to come!
Facinating period with lessons for today
Outstanding. I am loving both the specificity *and* the use of the most current findings, not to mention the maritime lens, which is so very crucial here.
Thank you for the lecture, I enjoyed it a lot.
Absolutely superb. Thank you!
Excellent, articulate presentation.
Noting makes me happier than these videos.
Great job. When does 2 and 3 come out. Can’t wait
Dan Carlin did a podcast about this too. This one is very well done.
Oh god........just what I need.......another kick butt sounding podcast that I can fall behind in listening to.....I love podcasts.....I hate podcasts.....I can never seem to find the right time/method for listening to them......if I listen to them when I'm chilled out......I fall asleep.....if I'm focused on them........then I don't get anything done...,o well....guess there's worse dilemma's in life one faces......so here I go again......getting semi addicted to another podcast.....but at any rate...thanks for sharing......seriously........it is very cool stuff
ok...if u....say so....where the hell....did you....learn... to communicate.....like...this........?
@@nukelaloosh4795 On.....Mars.....wise ....ass
You are gay. Its ok. Its all ok. Its this time, not that time.
All you need to worry now, is to pay up state fines. And taxes. Good luck with those.
thank you
16:38 Is my math wrong, because that date doesn't sound right. Abandoned in 1200 BCE, not rediscovered for 3700 years, but it's currently 2020 CE, only 3200 years after Hattusus was abandoned.
As a historian he's no rocket scientist.... all's well on the launch pad for it.
I suppose it was probably 3100 years instead. Some styles of 1 and 7 are easy to mistake for each other, after all.
New subscriber here: great video!
Thank you!🙏
Any time!
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 I am thankful! 🙏🙏🙏
It is awesome😀
Hi, first let me congratulate you for this exquisite movie. Second, I've been trying to find any source of the information about Sinurano (the english merchant whom you have mentioned in the video), but I haven't found yet any reference related in the Ugarit maritime history that mentions this letter. Can you please refer any source that includes it? Thank you
That's some ASMR History, right there!
What are the videos that predate this? I tried thumbing through the other videos but didn't see a clear sequence that would build up to this.
Nevermind, I initially misunderstood. I see that you were directing people to another podcast for that.
Love historical documentation. Always repeating in different costume bit like a plot in a good book or movie recurs in other genera.
My interest is the contact between civilizations origins of history places Egyptian civilization and mesoptomeian next to each other and trade with indus saraswati civilization with flow of tin from burma to middle east. New theories being studied on indus saraswati civilization and questioning many assumptions from previous theories. Have you heard of the finds in south india! Dating pre 1800 bc. Humans always been connected with art and bling! Pull factor. Food shelter disease - push factor.
Just listened to probability and influence of famine and disease in the late bronze age decline present pandemic giving some insight into spread in bronze age.
The answer to these questions was published more than 15 years ago in the specialised journal “Mediterranean Archaeology” (vol. 16, 2003), in the article titled “The Sea Peoples and the Historical Background of the Trojan War”, written by C. Moreu.
This is the abstract of the cited paper:
“The so-called Sea Peoples were involved in several conflicts at the end of the Bronze Age. The great inscription on the mortuary temple of Ramesses III, reporting the final crisis of the Sea Peoples, is written in a very ambiguous style. This is why the text of Medinet Habu has usually misled the scholars of the crisis. In general, it is believed that a coalition of five Sea Peoples devastated Anatolia, Cyprus and Syria, and then finished their raid attacking Canaan and Egypt. However, further study of data proves that these five peoples, vassals of the Hittites, had their original settlement in some of the wasted lands of Anatolia and Syria. In fact, they had suffered great defeat in their own countries, having to migrate to the Egyptian borders and invade Palestine. Their enemies (or the true attackers in the north) were Mycenaean. These aggressors conquered some coastal lands, at the same time as the Mushki and the Kashka destroyed the Hittite empire. Troy was one of the Anatolian cities attacked by the Mycenaean Greeks, and thus the legendary Trojan War has an evident historical background.”
You can find the whole text of the article in
sea-peoples.blogspot.com/2009/09/crisis-of-1200-bc-in-eastern.html
and also in
www.academia.edu/7034375/CARLOS_MOREU_The_Sea_Peoples_and_the_historical_background_of_the_Trojan_war
The same thesis was published in France in the book “La Guerre de Troie: Au-delà de la légende”
livre.fnac.com/a2222992/Carlos-Moreu-La-guerre-de-Troie-au-dela-de-la-legende
The sea people’s were either Illyrians (infamous pirates of the Mediterranean that Rome eventually had to pacify) or ancient Sardinians, possibly the Balari or the lolaes - proto-Phoenicians/Punics who settled Sardinia and mixed with the indigenous (Iberic type) inhabitants. Those tribes were also famous maritime raiders who left a legacy as far north as Britain. Seems likely that they would engage soft targets throughout the southern Mediterranean.
Ha! Get it? Maritime... Dive-in...
It should be noted hat the Copper/ Tin alloy of brass, is not the only type of alloy that is considered as Bronze. There is also the Copper/ Arsenic / Lead variety. And can be considered to be like the grades of Gasoline. However the CopperTin would have to be considered as the Premium grade.
So in that fashion, using the allusion of the raw Copper and Tin, could be considered as that of crude oil. Although even crude oil may have impurities by region.
With possible considerations of transportation risks, trade routes that are Island hopping from raw supplier ( Tin from Eastern Iberia) through middlemen who are also craftspeople converting into finished goods such trade would most likely have had Cyprus as the closest port to Ugarit. Therefore an official letter of a. Tax break. From Ugarit to Crete,seems to be an attempt to cut Cyprus out of the dealings. Since we. Do not have historical references of the political trade actions in Cyprus, this must remain as speculation. To make further determinations, it would be wise to gather the current maritime charts. Regarding currents and normal wind directions and velocities, to consider what the Mediterranean trade routes would most likely be for 5hetransportation of goods.
Copper and nickel is brass. Copper and tin is main road to bronze. Copper and tin plus a smattering of silver would be premium grade.
Where are the following episodes?
listen at 1.75x
Those damn sea people...
Eric Husayn always collapsing the Bronze Age and stuuuuuufff.
@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 never again! Hahahaha
Collapse result of Novel Sea Peoples Virus, CovidBC.
Eric Husayn Ha!!!
I literally just held my laptop and iphone straight up in the air in Worship so the cell signal can better reach me cause I’m hotspotting internet. ALL HAIL THE SIGNALS WE NEED IN THE AIR WITH ARMS OUTSTRETCHED
Civilisations never collapse for a single reason rather for a host of reasons .....the comparisons between we of now and regarding the past there are similarities we can consider ....
What stands out to me upon listening to your podcast are diverse peoples from distant places encountering one another ....coeval with this exchange is the transmissible diseases particular to diet and lifestyle as most diseases of humanity have their reservoir in an animal species tha5 has either become a part of diet an$ or a beast of burden ...and ancient history is best considered with such possibilities ...
More a civilisations collapse is not due to one feature but a host...
...not a single description of the war navy used by the sea peoples in spite of the promises during the long introduction... I remain with my durst !
Solar CME or super-flare hit the region. Test charred layers for trans-uranic isotopes and other typical chemical markers for solar ejecta. Has that been done by anyone yet?
Not the Battle of "Nigeria" but "Nihriya"
Most videos are about Bronze Age collapse, why no video about it's rising?
The Aegean Event
The Bronze Age powers had already collapsed and then the Sea People showed up unchallenged by any naval forces from the old regimes?
OMG! At 9:03 is that really a 3 minute egg timer? REALLY?
SEA PEOPLE. 2020!
Ah so now youre coming up with the good stuff! Keep it up. How about a vid about Alcibiades and his shifting loyalties? (I know that's an oxymoron)The blatent perfidy and constant anti democratic policies of Sparta in ancient Greece? Come on get down to some nitty gritty.
Check out Bettany Hughes about Athens and Sparta.
Sea Peoples from an Egyptian perspectice would be everyone not living on the Nile
But, it didn't say anything about their origins, so I will tell you that, here:
*MITSRAYIM*(Egyptians):
*Ludim* (Lukka, Lycia- Lod/Lydda, levant)
*Caslukhim* (Tjekker- Dor/Sicani, Sicily)
--> -*-Philistines-*- (Cretes>Peleset- Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Ekron, Gath, Jaffa)
*Caphtorim* (Sherden- Cretes+Sardinians)
*CANAAN* (Phoenicians):
*Yebusites* (Weqshesh- levant, between Amorites/Hatti kingdoms)
*Girgashites* (Weshesh, Karkisha/Caria- levant+Hatti kingdom●)
*Hivites* (Lebanon/hermon- hiyawa, anatolia ●)
Denyen: Danoi/Danuna/
Danaan/Dardanians = Dodanim son of Javan (all Greeks), Illyrians & east-south italics.
Ekwesh (circumcised) = Midianite colony (Jokshan?Ishbak?Shuah?)
Shekelesh: Siculi = another Dodanite colony, Sicily.
Teresh: Tyrrehnians/Etruscans/Tarsus = Tarshish
I wanted to watch this video but cant take this self conscious ASMR recitation
So Cyprus was basically the middle East now. Huh.
Cyprus is part of West Asia, which is approx. what is called "the Middle East" today.
@@LuisAldamiz I already know the geography of the Middle East. I'm mostly referring to Cyprus's economic role preceding the collapse, which was to provide copper, analogous to the Middle East providing oil.
Let's be honest with ourselves, who wants friendship with the Assyrians?
Not me! Said Israel crying in the corner.
so much wrong , the aliens who built bronze age nations left for vacation and the world collapsed
Where is the part about climate change since that seems to me to be the reason anything collapsed at all?
That is only a guess. There is no solid evidence. They know it was more arid, but ancient civilizations have been through drought and famine many times. And it didn't effect Assyrians or Phoenicians, Philistines etc. Most of the Old Testament was about 1100-700 BC.
It would be nice if competent authority would investigate the possibility of a grand solar minimum, and the consequent famines and sickness brought on by the extended cooler climate during that period, like the one we are going through now. Kline talks about the famines and plagues, without ever saying why they were going on,, in his video "1177, the year civilization ended".
For more listen next and next, wtf
Hey sleepy, you bored me to numbness. Now I don't care about bronze stuff, since you don't either. Thanks
I f I was an expert on the subject, then I probably could follow you. You give great images but do not adequately
explaining what you are showing me. You clearly speaking to experts in the field. You have poor communication skills.
Bold assertions from someone who clearly doesnt speak the lamguage of the video as his native language.