I have been ignoring the growing negative press this release has been generating, but timers would be a game changer for me. Just give me targets and let me figure out how to execute the mission, in my own time. These challenges would have no replay-ability. Do them once to unlock whatever and never touch them again.
@@valmiriusI was just looking at Resistance on the store page and I saw a season pass........no. Sorry Rebellion, but I'm not buying a deluxe version for a season pass that will probably only get me some gun packs.
I hate the idea of having time to complete these objectives/challenges, in my opinion that doesn't fit with Sniper Elite. This is one of my favorite series and I've been playing since the first game in 2005. One of the things I love about this game is taking my time, exploring the maps and not leaving any enemies behind. They should at least put an option where the player could decide whether or not they would like to have this active mode with time to be completed.
Thanks for the info - I'm at the point where I'd rather have new game info from you than from the devs. Didn't even noticed they released a video... Cheers. Edit: Hate the timer too. Dear god...
2:20 worth mentioning how the timer seems to work: as soon as enemies get suspicious (yellow state) the white box around the timer turns yellow and the countdown starts. question is if the countdown stops once the suspicious enemies are eliminated. if so, it would make sense to hide bodies in crates. 2:11 after this kill you earn +10 sec and a x2 score multiplier because of an vip target kill that lasts 15 sec (who gives a shit about highscores in sniper elite?) 3:36 here you earn +30 sec without any multipliers. maybe because the npc was in combat (red state), wasn't a vip target or this is a different type of challenge 3:43 by this kill you get no bonus time reward at all some other stealth games like metal gear solid or splinter cell have mission that instantly fail once you're spotted - maybe rebellion tried to make that kind of challenge more noob friendly with that timer. but considering that the timer seems to be the only new feature in the entire game, that's beyong worrying! 😐 what happend to npc's carrying boxes shown in the announcement trailer? what happend to the opel blitz shown in the announcement trailer? what happend to the speaker truck shown in the gamescom demo? why is the gestapo nothing more but an infantry skin? what happend to parachuting paratroopers shown on the fucking coverart and so on?! all i see is a standalone se5 dlc containing maps, weapons, skins and this propaganda timer... i just hope rebellion is hard at work on se6 behind the scenes
It's always amazing to see just how out of touch the developers get when it comes to understanding exactly what it is that their playerbase has come to love about their series and what mechanics they should never, ever implement. I swear it's like they don't actually play the games they make anymore because it's apparent at a glance to anyone that's even a casual fan of immersive stealth sandbox games why a timer is antithetical to the genre. I remember reading interviews with developers in the 90s and almost every single time when asked why it was they chose to make whatever game they were making, they would respond essentially with "We just really want to make this game that we always wanted to play." I think that simplicity has been lost and that games have become formulaic, profit driven consumer products as opposed to artistic entertainment creations.
Pretty certain that Rebellion do know exactly what the long-term/hardcore fans of the series want - but they are more than happy to lose those players, if they can gain a larger base of casual / run-and-gun players instead.
They're appealing to the dopamine-dependant CoD playerbase. That's why they also dumbed down the difficulty so massively from SE4. It's not enough for mainstream developers to have a difficulty mode that's purely optional and actually challenging. They all want to make sure even the most casual players can 100% the game since their data says that's what gets players to play the longest and thus the most invested into the game and most likely to buy more than just the base game. They no longer care about hardcore players since they know it makes up a tiny minority of the people playing the game. Sniper Elite has become a mainstream slop franchise and has completely lost its appeal to me.
This will likely be the first SE content I will have no interest in. These challenges may be optional, but they are still a significant addition to Resistance, and I couldn’t be less interested - racing through missions playing beat the clock, shooting enemies to increase the timer is an arcade game. Goodness, what were they thinking??
The player freedom is the best thing about Sniper Elite. A timer goes against that guiding principle. But as long as the campaign missions let me play how I want, it's not a deal breaker. Also if it ends up being unpopular with players, it's better that they tried it out in this SE5 spinoff instead of in SE6.
I know Rebellion read the comments on BB's channel. Well, timers ? They lost my purchase. I'm surprised Jason Kingsley signed off on this idiotic decision.
I'm not. Given we SE5 fans support Rebellion with our loyalty and our $$$, they need to stop hiding basic items away behind pre-ordering walls (like the KAR 98 and some other silenced pistol). That's bad enough and what you would expect form Ubisoft. And timers are just the opposite of what SE5 needs. Considering Rebellion are not a triple A developer, they do need to consider their fan base a bit more. Kinglsey seems so out of touch.
call of duty multiplayer once had a mode with time running and killing enemies increased the time,but if you failed to kill enemies to get more time you just died...this timing thing for sniper elite i can only think its purpose as how good you can play under pressure,but doesnt fit in the game imo.
2:30 There are a few levels in Original sniper elite that are relying on a timer, which one of them is "HW Plant", where we need to wait 4 minutes for personel to evacuate. Another one is "Cut Communications" level, where you have to kill NKVD Couriers one-by-one every 5 minutes (tho it's not necessary to abide this rule on this particular level)
"based on community feedback" BULLSHIT. I have been intimately involved with the Sniper Elite community for years and NOBODY has EVER mentioned ANY kind of desire for this type of play mode.
@@Orcinus24x5 I know, i wanted to mention this very thing but forgot. Who has ever asked for this? I've never seen a single comment anywhere asking for this.
That's marketing BS for: 'our number crunchers have told us this is the fastest way to increase player engagement, which is the best way to make more money ASAP'.
Critical questions for me that are unanswered: When you unlock the Propaganda challenge, opening up the greyed out area of map, does that area then remain open once you’ve completed the challenge? If so are there any main or optional mission objectives in that area of the map? Do you have to complete the Propaganda challenge as part of the overall mission? Or is it optional? Is the Propaganda challenge area of the map available for Axis Invasion? If not then we are left with tiny maps for Invasion. If the Propaganda challenge map area is available in Invasion, then are there any NPCs still alive in that area? Are there any main mission objectives that Karl needs to do in that area, or is the area just an empty play box for dedicated PvP? So many questions. Like many Axis Invasion converts, having this element of the game severely restricted geographically by the Propaganda challenges, that feels like an imminent Invasion disaster to me. What keeps us coming back to SE5 day after day is the unknown outcome of being pitched against new opponents. The maps and the challenges might remain the same, but the PvP element introduces an addictive level of fresh new experiences every session. Timed challenges with points etc are of no interest whatsoever to me. Sure it might be fun for a while until you’ve beaten it but then there’s no incentive to replay. The only possible saving grace is that it’s really hard on Authentic. Something that doesn’t get much discussion is just how hard SE5 Survival is on Authentic. Crazy hard. But the campaign is miserably easy on Authentic, pathetically so. So if the Propaganda challenges are actually properly difficult, then ok, I’ll give it a go. But if it is at the expense of Axis Invasion, that’s exactly what I do not want to see.
That's what I was wondering, too. Do the Propaganda challenges unlock that area for the campaign missions, giving us a bigger area to play in? If so, not bad, but I won't be surprised if it doesn't work that way.
You really need to be working at Rebellion BB. Good observations and commentary here, but I agree - we really need to wait and play these challenges ourselves before we judge them too harshly. On a side note though, have you ever had the chance to interview devs at Rebellion without a handler in the mix? You have a knack for cutting right to the "problems" of a system or feature and that usually drives PR people nuts. 😜
Sniper elite 1 had a couple timer missions but were done very realistically. You would know lets say an officer is due to arrive at 1500 hours you knew you had to be set up by then and that felt nice but not just an annoying timer ticking down like this
Fair play to them for trying something. I'm not bothered if it doesn't work well. Hopefully the rest of the game is decent. Id be more worried if the map designs are naff. Whilst SE5 had some repeating formula, the layouts and sight lines were fairly well considered; many lending them selves to invasions, as well as exploring the map and long shots. Not an easy balance. If they go backwards to the older linear formula (zig zag between objectives), Id want my money back. Thinking back to Zombie Army and The Strange Brigade, those have basic modes like Horde. I thought one even had a timer. Those are very repetitive. They're just silly. It's just something else to do. Whats more worrying is if they understand the audience. And if they're seeking to expand to a wider audience by pandering to common wants. Hopefully realising people like to take their time to locate, spot, long shot, even some spectacular super long shots should be up their alley. And add to that double kills, chain reactions, more ricochet surfaces, at the said super long shots. Even the explosions are far more satisfying in SE5 than previous instalments; build upon their improvements.
I have played all the Snipergames, if they are going to change the game parameters ,I will leave it at Sniper 5 ,Great game don,t think we need the game rules to be changed. Why do they spoil these great games with silliness. Regards Mike
Hey BB can you go over the update to SE 5 in November and the updated SE R posters scattered throughout the game, are they hints of what’s to come in SE R? and do you have any info on what else rebellion updated in SE 5 thanks 😊 👍
Would love to know specifically which community Rebellion is referring to when it says they have based the Propaganda missions on “community feedback”. Er, what? If you were to ask the Sniper Elite community about timed missions as described, then you would bet your grandmother on the community explicitly stating it did not want timed missions. Cannot get my head around the direction this appears to be going. I too have mostly switched off the increasingly negative feedback on socials about Resistance. It’s been an overwhelmingly downbeat and depressing lead up to the new game’s release. I thought I’m going to stop watching all this stuff and just play the new missions with my co-op buddy and get into Invasion as quickly as possible. But I am worried now that the main campaign missions are going to be based on tiny maps with very limited scope for intense Authentic invasion game play. The detail I am desperate to know is whether or not the Propaganda area of the map is available for Invasion gameplay. Oh well. I guess some of this is driven by the style of gameplay we have seen introduced by SE5 Axis Invasion. Most of the invaders I come up against are relatively unskilled run & gun types who charge around making themselves relatively easy targets. There’s no doubt that a lot of players are simply not interested in tactical stealth. When you come up against an invader who understands stealth and how to find, setup and ambush Karl, the quality gameplay really smacks you in the face. That’s why I play Sniper Elite. Stealth, strategy, tactics, making a plan, trying to outfox my opponent. If I wanted timers and crazy running around & shooting everything in sight, I’d play Apex Legends or similar. I am prepared to be very disappointed but I hope (naively?) this is not going to be the case.
For me, the big question is what kind of additional gameplay will be available in the new regions opened up by Propaganda posters. Is it only timed gameplay or will there be new objectives in regular un-timed mode? If it’s only timed gameplay, that will make those new regions pointless for those of us who aren’t interested in timer gameplay. It will be a lot of wasted area and result in very tiny maps for regular gameplay. .
That would probably be the only reason I would do these, just once for the unlockable content. Good idea dialing down the difficulty to get through these as quickly as possible.
I think you hit the nail on the head: most Sniper Elite players like the patient, selective approach. This mode may exist to 1) draw them into a new way to enjoy the game, and 2) draw new players (or more likely, new audiences) into the Sniper Elite game system. I look forward to these side missions/challenges, because I am leaning to them being used as either replayable rogue-like challenges OR set missions where you need to work out the proper way to eliminate everyone in a puzzle-like fashion where the only way to complete the mission is to figure out the puzzle. Either could be fun??!!
@@Nifter71 At the risk of pointing out the obvious: these modes do not appear to be a main feature of the game and are instead optional non-campaign levels, akin to the multiplayer suite, which often devolves into run 'n gun. I'm not saying that approach is a feature of the main game, because it isn't and hasn't been. But that has been a way that some people play the optional non-campaign multiplayer. There is a lot we still don't know about the mode, so all of this may just be guesswork.
I'm glad the devs try out new stuff. Invasion mode sounded awful to me and it turned out it was the most long time fun thing in SE5. I guess propaganda missions will be a one time thing for me, but I can see that some people would enjoy that sort of mission. It could add some diversity of gameplay that appeals to more cassual gamers.
Which inevitably dumbs down and destroys the qualities that made the game special in the first place. We've been here before, many times. But yeah, in the short term, it adds a new selling-point for marketing SE to the casual gamer.
@@Nifter71 Games are made by companies. They have to pay their bills, employees and shareholders. If they don't make money - they don't make games. A good game made is much better than the perfect game never made. Also - more appealing games have the potential to get new gamers into a genre - growing the market and in turn making it more appealing for other developers to get their perfect game ideas out of their drawer and into production. And in the end it is much better for us to find other people in multiplayer modes or invasion mode than to have empty lobbies ...
@@Nifter71 Even if I didn't play it - SE4 had multiplayer. And I played multiplayer in SE5. I heard complaints about not enough players in SE4. And I definitely know that I was not the only one having to wait for ages to find enough players for no cross matches or matchups for invasion were so far appart that it became the biggest obstacle.
@@torstenwinkler8610 Yup, SE was a single player stealth sniper campaign game - with added mutiplayer & deathmatch. Now it's turned into a game that needs the metrics of 'online engagement' - even when they continue to blatantly work against the game's core identity.
Like Invasion mode which I have never, ever bothered to play (do not play SE to game in PvP - not at all interested in that), I will be avoiding timed missions like the plague. The thing that I utterly love in Sniper Elite games is the ability to sneak around and plan my missions in whichever way I want. The last thing I want to do is to be forced to someone else's strategy and time goals. In fact, seening how small are the maps in this upcoming release, I do not even think I will buy it. I think it is rip off, big time. Not worth my hard-earned money.
So they've sacrificed regular mission map size for an arcade style mini game, presumably with no invasions (the highlight of the previous game). Not a fan of this direction. Nothing wrong with the new mini missions, but not if the regular missions end up as reduced as several of them appear now.
On the main menu give the option to play timed or un-timed. That will get players like me who won't buy it if it's timed to buy the game. Seems simple. but apparently it is difficult for some game developers to grasp.
I feel like a lot of the changes in Sniper Elite 5 were "inspired" (to put it mildly) by Metal Gear Solid 5. If that's true, seems like this is a ripoff of VR Missions in those games.
i'm really really starting to think that rebellion doesnt understand their playerbase. Each game seems to get less and less difficult and tactical and more run and gun even look at multiplayer in sniper elite 2 3 and 4 everyone usually sniped now its people running around with scoped smgs and running like chickens with their heads cut off its really a shame i was pretty disappointed with SE5 still put plenty of time with it as its my favorite series but man idk
I recently watched an SE dev say on video that the fanbase sometimes 'doesn't know what it wants'. Translated from marketing-corporate bullshit, this means: "we hear the fans, and we still think they're wrong'.
How about a level cap that you don't reach on your first playthrough? Or leaderboards? That's what 4 has, and it gives it great replayability. 5 was a joke, zero reason to keep playing as you get no progression. It literally takes you years to hit the level cap on 4. Even then, you get leaderboards which keep going after that.
Anyone else had a glitch with SE4. When you select the radial to change weapon etc, it gets stuck & you can't return to the game, most annoying & a game killer.
The more I hear about this game, the less excited I become. I'm a late bloomer into the franchise, started with watching 3 on UA-cam back in the day and then jumped in with 4 and 5. Loved it from the moment I started playing, reminded me of the stealth / tactical games I love (Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon, etc) but with the "do whatever you want, however you want" approach. This just seems to be another out-of-touch developer releasing what appears to be a DLC for full price with additional DLC. While the formula may be great gameplay-wise, I can't foresee paying full price. At best it will be a Game Pass playthrough until the next game or until the Game Pass deal lapses.
I'll start by saying I really enjoyed Sniper Elite 5 and have replayed the maps multiple times, yes I miss some things from Sniper Elite 4 but overall I really enjoyed it. Now to say I am looking forward to Sniper Elite Resistance, and if it gives me more of what I enjoyed then that is fine by me. I would also add that for me I just play the campaigns and DLC, I do not generally do the multiplayer or other online modes. Now onto the propaganda missions/challenges. I am willing to give the propaganda missions/challenges the benefit of doubt, if they are in addition to the base missions and the DLC then I guess it is just extra content to try out new ideas which is hard to criticise. If Rebellion did not try anything new I guess we would all criticise them for just turning out the same stuff, so I'll give them some credit for at least trying to add an extra option to the gameplay. Also, they may be trying to attract other gamers to expand the audience and maybe view this a way to do this. Maybe what they try here will be expanded and improved for Sniper Elite 6. I shall remain positive and look forward to playing the game.
This isn't surprising. I felt like 5's enemy placement was designed to force you more into run and gun moments. Propaganda seems 100% into forcing you to run and gun. I'll still try Resistance, but I hope Rebellion stops this action shooter push and gets back to sniping.
Could they do mission over is spotted, knife only, only use weapons from bodies, iron sights sniping, have to kill a target(s) and dispose of the body without a trace, etc. Time is cool, but like you said. One note...
The way the propaganda missions are its very disappointing, based on the trailer i thought it was helping the resistance with battles by stealth, combat on the front and snipping challenges, a timer with that would make sense by eliminating them quickly, so now its just regular mode with a timer 🤷♂️ i don't get it, it would have been different and cool.
These propaganda missions/challenges should've been treated like quarters in actual games. As an American, whether it be football as in NFL football each quarter is 15 minutes long 4 quarters to play, or like NBA basketball, 4 quarters are 12 minutes each, or in college basketball. 2 quarters 20 minutes each. In this kind of setting would've been more suitable. Plus a bonus of 15-30 seconds is added for each kill. So what I'm proposing is each mission is timed like 12min, 15min or 20min long in those select or certain specific missions/challenges. Something to think about.
I have and love all the Sniper Elite games and if your are real sniper you are going to take your time .. I know .. So if there are timers in this new game … no thank you I will pass and replay all the old ones. This makes me said :( big games are trying to kill there own games .. games are woak or timers in a Sniper game wtf... Peace Out
Yeah, being rushed in a sneaking game is a huge turnoff. Give me time to plan, give me time to sneak, give me time to hide and and line up difficult shots. It's why I don't even play the survival modes. It's just not fun.
Im just wondering why rebellion dont absolutely mine the resource at their disposal and put out feelers and get some feedback from its customer base in regards to developing a new game Thanks for this review im looking forward to the new game but this has to say the last dampened my enthusiasm
TOTALLY NO SENSE: I find this whole whining very curious, especially when they say that the devs don't understand their audience, but what audience? The Sniper Elite series does have a loyal audience, but it was NEVER very big, and then the same thing they complained about in 4 and then in 5 "oh it's the same game with just new missions", but then the devs finally bring something new to the game, something to catch the attention of more people, something almost like a competitive challenge, because ALL great games always have something like this, that's why they maintain large audiences and then all this whining comes, and worse, for something that isn't even mandatory, like the survival mode in 5, yes, it unlocks new weapons, but even so it's not mandatory, after all, 90% of the audience of the series plays the campaign and never comes back to the game. Not even the public knows what they want, and a clear example of this is what is said at this moment 10:22 because you just described EXACTLY what the entire series already has, that is, you don't want anything different, YOU JUST WANT MORE OF THE SAME and then complain AGAIN that the game is just more of the same, at another moment you complain that this mode will only be in certain areas of the map and not in the entire map, that is, again, asking for just more of the same, I have never seen such a senseless criticism as in this video!
Hi BrutalBarracuda, I have a problem with Sniper elite 4: I want to get the 100 percent of this game but there's a ribbon that asks win a round of elimination withouth dying. The problem is that I do it many times and I never get the ribbon. I writed to Rebellion but they don't answer, I'm writing to tell you if you can write them. Greetings and thank you for read this message.
contact rebellion support by email instead of spamming your problem under every se video. if it's really a bug, don't expect it to get fixed. se4 support is over.
@Core2TOM yes, I do it many times but they don't answer, even I write him in every video, I write to BrutalBarracuda because he has more contact with Rebellion
@@estefaniamorcuende7039 you can ask the community managers, give them some info about your copy (system, version etc.) but as said se4's support has ended, so it's a waste of time anyway.
Remind me of Gears of War 4 they killed the franchise are a car help notice that it's sort of a Call of Duty sort of thing as well. This is what happens when you listen to Microsoft. It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft Xbox were involved in this
The Sniper Elite franchise jumped the shark with SE5, everything has been downhill since. After putting in like 2,000 hours into SE4, I put in just enough time to do the achievements in SE5, and I don't play it at all anymore. 👎👎👎
Finished 4 long time ago. Now after completing 5, i went back to 4 and couldnt play it. It felt clunky and wind and bullet drop is damn unrealistc in se4
If your going to get angry blame Microsoft xbox having more say what's in this game mode. I'm not really sure if Xbox will be putting this on Game Pass but if they do you can rest assured the Microsoft has had have said what they want
The Propaganda Missions look horribly arcade-like. I hate timed missions as much as I hate escort missions. Rebellion's lost the plot with this. The only thing that still has me interested in this game is what they're doing with my favorite mode, Survival.
I loved overwatch missions in 4 (albeit there not been many) - it's an absolute shame those never got expanded. Timers ? Yeah NO ONE asked for this. I prob. completely ignore this, hope the survival maps are good and i'm fine. Anyway would prefer a mode like said overwatch with a spotter and a sniper (take as much time you need). I would also love the old leaderboard style back and the prestige system from 4 etc. I mean what does community input do at all if they simply ignore everything, leave everything annoying from 5 in resistance. Running and gunning as they call it you would get oblitarated in 4 on authentic +... sucks to see this shit again. I will treat this as a dlc to 5, so far the maps look absolute fantastic but that's all I can praise. Was 5 a bad game ? Not at all, I still prefer 4 ANY day over it.
I don't know why anyone would be disappointed that you are rushed by a timer in the propaganda challenges. It's ADDITIONAL to the main campaigns which doesn't have a timer. It's not like they've changed the main game missions to include a timer. Some people like the timed element, so it caters for those who do. It's like survival mode, it's an additional element which is not like the main game. Some people like that, some people do not. Wouldn't get too wound up about it. As I say, it's not as if they've changed the main game is it
hey rebellion, put some actual effort into the game instead of the same rehashed sniper camera shots, enemy comments. the only thing you do well is the size and detail of the maps. been playing since SE3 , and its the same game over and over again........... im not dropping 70 on a game ive already played. And screw mission timers.. listen to your base .
But the timer is only for the propaganda challenge. You can simply play the normal levels and take your time to explore. You're making a bigger deal out of a side game than you need to. Stop spreading this propaganda! 😂
Timer in propagander mode🤬 f.u.b.a.r, not happy about that, which idiot came up with that idea🤔 developer been on Psychedelics again🤣 Guess Sniper Elite no longer wants an authentic francise, certainly not the sniper ethos, hope they rethink it and remove the timer..wont hold my breath though😉 Happy hunting Barracuda🍺🥃🫡
I have been ignoring the growing negative press this release has been generating, but timers would be a game changer for me. Just give me targets and let me figure out how to execute the mission, in my own time. These challenges would have no replay-ability. Do them once to unlock whatever and never touch them again.
to be fair you can't blame people for being irritated at how these games are priced and how the dlc is handled
Hi Brutal, have you also noticed the huge amount of S5 map extras they've added like junctions, buildings and gardens etc
@@valmiriusquit complaining and play shit for yourself ffs
@@valmiriusI was just looking at Resistance on the store page and I saw a season pass........no. Sorry Rebellion, but I'm not buying a deluxe version for a season pass that will probably only get me some gun packs.
I hate the idea of having time to complete these objectives/challenges, in my opinion that doesn't fit with Sniper Elite.
This is one of my favorite series and I've been playing since the first game in 2005. One of the things I love about this game is taking my time, exploring the maps and not leaving any enemies behind.
They should at least put an option where the player could decide whether or not they would like to have this active mode with time to be completed.
I think everyone already knows this is basically dlc passed off as a full game but damn if this mode doesnt scream FILLER then idk what does
Thanks for the info - I'm at the point where I'd rather have new game info from you than from the devs. Didn't even noticed they released a video... Cheers. Edit: Hate the timer too. Dear god...
2:20 worth mentioning how the timer seems to work:
as soon as enemies get suspicious (yellow state) the white box around the timer turns yellow and the countdown starts. question is if the countdown stops once the suspicious enemies are eliminated. if so, it would make sense to hide bodies in crates.
2:11 after this kill you earn +10 sec and a x2 score multiplier because of an vip target kill that lasts 15 sec (who gives a shit about highscores in sniper elite?)
3:36 here you earn +30 sec without any multipliers. maybe because the npc was in combat (red state), wasn't a vip target or this is a different type of challenge
3:43 by this kill you get no bonus time reward at all
some other stealth games like metal gear solid or splinter cell have mission that instantly fail once you're spotted - maybe rebellion tried to make that kind of challenge more noob friendly with that timer. but considering that the timer seems to be the only new feature in the entire game, that's beyong worrying! 😐
what happend to npc's carrying boxes shown in the announcement trailer?
what happend to the opel blitz shown in the announcement trailer?
what happend to the speaker truck shown in the gamescom demo?
why is the gestapo nothing more but an infantry skin?
what happend to parachuting paratroopers shown on the fucking coverart and so on?!
all i see is a standalone se5 dlc containing maps, weapons, skins and this propaganda timer... i just hope rebellion is hard at work on se6 behind the scenes
I much rather would like them improve authentic mode instead of adding more arcade stuff like this :/
@@hungryhedgehog4201 absolutely
It's always amazing to see just how out of touch the developers get when it comes to understanding exactly what it is that their playerbase has come to love about their series and what mechanics they should never, ever implement. I swear it's like they don't actually play the games they make anymore because it's apparent at a glance to anyone that's even a casual fan of immersive stealth sandbox games why a timer is antithetical to the genre.
I remember reading interviews with developers in the 90s and almost every single time when asked why it was they chose to make whatever game they were making, they would respond essentially with "We just really want to make this game that we always wanted to play." I think that simplicity has been lost and that games have become formulaic, profit driven consumer products as opposed to artistic entertainment creations.
Pretty certain that Rebellion do know exactly what the long-term/hardcore fans of the series want - but they are more than happy to lose those players, if they can gain a larger base of casual / run-and-gun players instead.
They're appealing to the dopamine-dependant CoD playerbase. That's why they also dumbed down the difficulty so massively from SE4. It's not enough for mainstream developers to have a difficulty mode that's purely optional and actually challenging. They all want to make sure even the most casual players can 100% the game since their data says that's what gets players to play the longest and thus the most invested into the game and most likely to buy more than just the base game.
They no longer care about hardcore players since they know it makes up a tiny minority of the people playing the game. Sniper Elite has become a mainstream slop franchise and has completely lost its appeal to me.
I hate the timer countdown thing. Sad to hear one of my favorite series is doing this.
This will likely be the first SE content I will have no interest in. These challenges may be optional, but they are still a significant addition to Resistance, and I couldn’t be less interested - racing through missions playing beat the clock, shooting enemies to increase the timer is an arcade game. Goodness, what were they thinking??
The player freedom is the best thing about Sniper Elite. A timer goes against that guiding principle. But as long as the campaign missions let me play how I want, it's not a deal breaker. Also if it ends up being unpopular with players, it's better that they tried it out in this SE5 spinoff instead of in SE6.
Yeah I don’t like the timed challenges. I like to sneak around and take my time with each mission. I can easily spend 3-5 hours on the SE5 missions
I was kinda excited about this until you said timed, I really hate time based challenges....
I know Rebellion read the comments on BB's channel.
Well, timers ? They lost my purchase.
I'm surprised Jason Kingsley signed off on this idiotic decision.
I'm not. Given we SE5 fans support Rebellion with our loyalty and our $$$, they need to stop hiding basic items away behind pre-ordering walls (like the KAR 98 and some other silenced pistol). That's bad enough and what you would expect form Ubisoft. And timers are just the opposite of what SE5 needs. Considering Rebellion are not a triple A developer, they do need to consider their fan base a bit more. Kinglsey seems so out of touch.
Timers will be a kick in the head for any stealth players. "Handcuffed"!
Sniper Elite Resistance got all the red flags and I have zero hype. Hope the final game will makes me change my mind..
i am very disappeared Propaganda Mode & it should have no times
You'll be able to breeze through if you can't be seen.
Timers are a commando thing, not a sniper thing! No buying it from me.
Regards
Propaganda missions with timer sux big time. I dont want and like to get in a rush.
call of duty multiplayer once had a mode with time running and killing enemies increased the time,but if you failed to kill enemies to get more time you just died...this timing thing for sniper elite i can only think its purpose as how good you can play under pressure,but doesnt fit in the game imo.
Love your channel Geezer, keep it going
I paid my money, I should be able to nix the timer
2:30 There are a few levels in Original sniper elite that are relying on a timer, which one of them is "HW Plant", where we need to wait 4 minutes for personel to evacuate.
Another one is "Cut Communications" level, where you have to kill NKVD Couriers one-by-one every 5 minutes (tho it's not necessary to abide this rule on this particular level)
cannot wait to see if its like this indeed , but anything new , im happy to try
"based on community feedback" BULLSHIT. I have been intimately involved with the Sniper Elite community for years and NOBODY has EVER mentioned ANY kind of desire for this type of play mode.
@@Orcinus24x5 I know, i wanted to mention this very thing but forgot. Who has ever asked for this? I've never seen a single comment anywhere asking for this.
That's marketing BS for: 'our number crunchers have told us this is the fastest way to increase player engagement, which is the best way to make more money ASAP'.
So they are cuting away half of a map for some slop secondary mod so the price feel justified.
What a scam
Critical questions for me that are unanswered:
When you unlock the Propaganda challenge, opening up the greyed out area of map, does that area then remain open once you’ve completed the challenge? If so are there any main or optional mission objectives in that area of the map? Do you have to complete the Propaganda challenge as part of the overall mission? Or is it optional?
Is the Propaganda challenge area of the map available for Axis Invasion? If not then we are left with tiny maps for Invasion. If the Propaganda challenge map area is available in Invasion, then are there any NPCs still alive in that area? Are there any main mission objectives that Karl needs to do in that area, or is the area just an empty play box for dedicated PvP?
So many questions. Like many Axis Invasion converts, having this element of the game severely restricted geographically by the Propaganda challenges, that feels like an imminent Invasion disaster to me. What keeps us coming back to SE5 day after day is the unknown outcome of being pitched against new opponents. The maps and the challenges might remain the same, but the PvP element introduces an addictive level of fresh new experiences every session.
Timed challenges with points etc are of no interest whatsoever to me. Sure it might be fun for a while until you’ve beaten it but then there’s no incentive to replay. The only possible saving grace is that it’s really hard on Authentic. Something that doesn’t get much discussion is just how hard SE5 Survival is on Authentic. Crazy hard. But the campaign is miserably easy on Authentic, pathetically so. So if the Propaganda challenges are actually properly difficult, then ok, I’ll give it a go.
But if it is at the expense of Axis Invasion, that’s exactly what I do not want to see.
That's what I was wondering, too. Do the Propaganda challenges unlock that area for the campaign missions, giving us a bigger area to play in? If so, not bad, but I won't be surprised if it doesn't work that way.
Let's hope there is a setting to turn timer off
Whose idiot idea was it to introduce timers to a stealth game?! Big mistake!!
You really need to be working at Rebellion BB.
Good observations and commentary here, but I agree - we really need to wait and play these challenges ourselves before we judge them too harshly.
On a side note though, have you ever had the chance to interview devs at Rebellion without a handler in the mix?
You have a knack for cutting right to the "problems" of a system or feature and that usually drives PR people nuts. 😜
Yes he should
Agree completely, excellent analysis - I’ve been waiting for this video from the moment I watched that trailer 😄
I recently watched one of the devs claim that the fans sometimes 'don't know what they want', so I don't think the handlers are the issue tbh.
Sniper elite 1 had a couple timer missions but were done very realistically. You would know lets say an officer is due to arrive at 1500 hours you knew you had to be set up by then and that felt nice but not just an annoying timer ticking down like this
15:18 lad was trying to be sneaky 😈
Thanks for the added info still looking forward to it
Fair play to them for trying something.
I'm not bothered if it doesn't work well. Hopefully the rest of the game is decent. Id be more worried if the map designs are naff. Whilst SE5 had some repeating formula, the layouts and sight lines were fairly well considered; many lending them selves to invasions, as well as exploring the map and long shots. Not an easy balance. If they go backwards to the older linear formula (zig zag between objectives), Id want my money back.
Thinking back to Zombie Army and The Strange Brigade, those have basic modes like Horde. I thought one even had a timer. Those are very repetitive. They're just silly.
It's just something else to do.
Whats more worrying is if they understand the audience. And if they're seeking to expand to a wider audience by pandering to common wants. Hopefully realising people like to take their time to locate, spot, long shot, even some spectacular super long shots should be up their alley. And add to that double kills, chain reactions, more ricochet surfaces, at the said super long shots. Even the explosions are far more satisfying in SE5 than previous instalments; build upon their improvements.
Sniper Elite is definitely going downhill, this seems like a money grab until SE6.
You voice is just like the British SAS hero “Big Phil”
Great video aswell
1:34 ok hear me out…. a CHALLENGE MISSION… eh? eh!?
I have played all the Snipergames, if they are going to change the game parameters ,I will leave it at Sniper 5 ,Great game don,t think we need the game rules to be changed. Why do they spoil these great games with silliness. Regards Mike
I'm so glad that it wasn't just me that was unhappy about this mode.
That is indeed a FG-42 in the hands of that Jäger.
Hey BB can you go over the update to SE 5 in November and the updated SE R posters scattered throughout the game, are they hints of what’s to come in SE R? and do you have any info on what else rebellion updated in SE 5 thanks 😊 👍
Would love to know specifically which community Rebellion is referring to when it says they have based the Propaganda missions on “community feedback”. Er, what?
If you were to ask the Sniper Elite community about timed missions as described, then you would bet your grandmother on the community explicitly stating it did not want timed missions.
Cannot get my head around the direction this appears to be going. I too have mostly switched off the increasingly negative feedback on socials about Resistance. It’s been an overwhelmingly downbeat and depressing lead up to the new game’s release. I thought I’m going to stop watching all this stuff and just play the new missions with my co-op buddy and get into Invasion as quickly as possible. But I am worried now that the main campaign missions are going to be based on tiny maps with very limited scope for intense Authentic invasion game play. The detail I am desperate to know is whether or not the Propaganda area of the map is available for Invasion gameplay.
Oh well. I guess some of this is driven by the style of gameplay we have seen introduced by SE5 Axis Invasion. Most of the invaders I come up against are relatively unskilled run & gun types who charge around making themselves relatively easy targets. There’s no doubt that a lot of players are simply not interested in tactical stealth. When you come up against an invader who understands stealth and how to find, setup and ambush Karl, the quality gameplay really smacks you in the face. That’s why I play Sniper Elite. Stealth, strategy, tactics, making a plan, trying to outfox my opponent.
If I wanted timers and crazy running around & shooting everything in sight, I’d play Apex Legends or similar.
I am prepared to be very disappointed but I hope (naively?) this is not going to be the case.
For me, the big question is what kind of additional gameplay will be available in the new regions opened up by Propaganda posters. Is it only timed gameplay or will there be new objectives in regular un-timed mode? If it’s only timed gameplay, that will make those new regions pointless for those of us who aren’t interested in timer gameplay. It will be a lot of wasted area and result in very tiny maps for regular gameplay. .
Yep, those mission will suck big time. Turn the difficulty all the way down, unlock the weapons, never look back.
That would probably be the only reason I would do these, just once for the unlockable content. Good idea dialing down the difficulty to get through these as quickly as possible.
My thoughts exactly
I think you hit the nail on the head: most Sniper Elite players like the patient, selective approach. This mode may exist to 1) draw them into a new way to enjoy the game, and 2) draw new players (or more likely, new audiences) into the Sniper Elite game system. I look forward to these side missions/challenges, because I am leaning to them being used as either replayable rogue-like challenges OR set missions where you need to work out the proper way to eliminate everyone in a puzzle-like fashion where the only way to complete the mission is to figure out the puzzle. Either could be fun??!!
Aka 'Run n Gun'. Literally the OPPOSITE of the game's core identity.
@@Nifter71 At the risk of pointing out the obvious: these modes do not appear to be a main feature of the game and are instead optional non-campaign levels, akin to the multiplayer suite, which often devolves into run 'n gun. I'm not saying that approach is a feature of the main game, because it isn't and hasn't been. But that has been a way that some people play the optional non-campaign multiplayer. There is a lot we still don't know about the mode, so all of this may just be guesswork.
I'm glad the devs try out new stuff. Invasion mode sounded awful to me and it turned out it was the most long time fun thing in SE5. I guess propaganda missions will be a one time thing for me, but I can see that some people would enjoy that sort of mission. It could add some diversity of gameplay that appeals to more cassual gamers.
Which inevitably dumbs down and destroys the qualities that made the game special in the first place. We've been here before, many times.
But yeah, in the short term, it adds a new selling-point for marketing SE to the casual gamer.
@@Nifter71 Games are made by companies. They have to pay their bills, employees and shareholders. If they don't make money - they don't make games. A good game made is much better than the perfect game never made. Also - more appealing games have the potential to get new gamers into a genre - growing the market and in turn making it more appealing for other developers to get their perfect game ideas out of their drawer and into production.
And in the end it is much better for us to find other people in multiplayer modes or invasion mode than to have empty lobbies ...
@@torstenwinkler8610 'Empty lobbies'? For the first four parts of a five part series, SE used to be a sniper-stealth single player campaign game.
@@Nifter71 Even if I didn't play it - SE4 had multiplayer. And I played multiplayer in SE5. I heard complaints about not enough players in SE4. And I definitely know that I was not the only one having to wait for ages to find enough players for no cross matches or matchups for invasion were so far appart that it became the biggest obstacle.
@@torstenwinkler8610 Yup, SE was a single player stealth sniper campaign game - with added mutiplayer & deathmatch. Now it's turned into a game that needs the metrics of 'online engagement' - even when they continue to blatantly work against the game's core identity.
The worst thing is you have to complete the propaganda missions to see the whole map-so you're basically being forced into them.
Like Invasion mode which I have never, ever bothered to play (do not play SE to game in PvP - not at all interested in that), I will be avoiding timed missions like the plague. The thing that I utterly love in Sniper Elite games is the ability to sneak around and plan my missions in whichever way I want. The last thing I want to do is to be forced to someone else's strategy and time goals. In fact, seening how small are the maps in this upcoming release, I do not even think I will buy it. I think it is rip off, big time. Not worth my hard-earned money.
So they've sacrificed regular mission map size for an arcade style mini game, presumably with no invasions (the highlight of the previous game). Not a fan of this direction. Nothing wrong with the new mini missions, but not if the regular missions end up as reduced as several of them appear now.
yeah-who thought hiding a portion of the map behind a propaganda mission was good idea. Played every SE gam-this might be a miss for me.
We dont know for certain, but it certainly appears that way on the first mission.
On the main menu give the option to play timed or un-timed. That will get players like me who won't buy it if it's timed to buy the game. Seems simple. but apparently it is difficult for some game developers to grasp.
It should allow turning off the timer. No recon time.
SE5 was a huge letdown for me, deleted it from my PS5, still have SE4 on it though. Won't be buying this at all. Rebellion needs to fix their shit.
I feel like a lot of the changes in Sniper Elite 5 were "inspired" (to put it mildly) by Metal Gear Solid 5. If that's true, seems like this is a ripoff of VR Missions in those games.
I appreciate the fact it took me over 3 hours to complete a dlc mission this past weekend on sniper elite 5. Yes I got 3 stars. 😂😂😂
i'm really really starting to think that rebellion doesnt understand their playerbase. Each game seems to get less and less difficult and tactical and more run and gun even look at multiplayer in sniper elite 2 3 and 4 everyone usually sniped now its people running around with scoped smgs and running like chickens with their heads cut off its really a shame i was pretty disappointed with SE5 still put plenty of time with it as its my favorite series but man idk
I recently watched an SE dev say on video that the fanbase sometimes 'doesn't know what it wants'. Translated from marketing-corporate bullshit, this means: "we hear the fans, and we still think they're wrong'.
Propaganda Challenge Mission Side Level...LOL
How about a level cap that you don't reach on your first playthrough? Or leaderboards? That's what 4 has, and it gives it great replayability. 5 was a joke, zero reason to keep playing as you get no progression. It literally takes you years to hit the level cap on 4. Even then, you get leaderboards which keep going after that.
Also, once you unlock the propaganda, emissions or challenges, do they stay unlocked when you replay the game? after the whole game is done
Anyone else had a glitch with SE4. When you select the radial to change weapon etc, it gets stuck & you can't return to the game, most annoying & a game killer.
Would love to hear more about Multiplayer. Will there also be Team Deathmatch? We need more maps…! 😅
Rebellion have confirmed Sniper Elite Resistance includes Multiplayer.
The more I hear about this game, the less excited I become. I'm a late bloomer into the franchise, started with watching 3 on UA-cam back in the day and then jumped in with 4 and 5. Loved it from the moment I started playing, reminded me of the stealth / tactical games I love (Splinter Cell, Ghost Recon, etc) but with the "do whatever you want, however you want" approach.
This just seems to be another out-of-touch developer releasing what appears to be a DLC for full price with additional DLC. While the formula may be great gameplay-wise, I can't foresee paying full price. At best it will be a Game Pass playthrough until the next game or until the Game Pass deal lapses.
I'll start by saying I really enjoyed Sniper Elite 5 and have replayed the maps multiple times, yes I miss some things from Sniper Elite 4 but overall I really enjoyed it.
Now to say I am looking forward to Sniper Elite Resistance, and if it gives me more of what I enjoyed then that is fine by me.
I would also add that for me I just play the campaigns and DLC, I do not generally do the multiplayer or other online modes.
Now onto the propaganda missions/challenges. I am willing to give the propaganda missions/challenges the benefit of doubt, if they are in addition to the base missions and the DLC then I guess it is just extra content to try out new ideas which is hard to criticise.
If Rebellion did not try anything new I guess we would all criticise them for just turning out the same stuff, so I'll give them some credit for at least trying to add an extra option to the gameplay.
Also, they may be trying to attract other gamers to expand the audience and maybe view this a way to do this.
Maybe what they try here will be expanded and improved for Sniper Elite 6.
I shall remain positive and look forward to playing the game.
This isn't surprising. I felt like 5's enemy placement was designed to force you more into run and gun moments. Propaganda seems 100% into forcing you to run and gun. I'll still try Resistance, but I hope Rebellion stops this action shooter push and gets back to sniping.
Could they do mission over is spotted, knife only, only use weapons from bodies, iron sights sniping, have to kill a target(s) and dispose of the body without a trace, etc. Time is cool, but like you said. One note...
The way the propaganda missions are its very disappointing, based on the trailer i thought it was helping the resistance with battles by stealth, combat on the front and snipping challenges, a timer with that would make sense by eliminating them quickly, so now its just regular mode with a timer 🤷♂️ i don't get it, it would have been different and cool.
These propaganda missions/challenges should've been treated like quarters in actual games. As an American, whether it be football as in NFL football each quarter is 15 minutes long 4 quarters to play, or like NBA basketball, 4 quarters are 12 minutes each, or in college basketball. 2 quarters 20 minutes each. In this kind of setting would've been more suitable. Plus a bonus of 15-30 seconds is added for each kill. So what I'm proposing is each mission is timed like 12min, 15min or 20min long in those select or certain specific missions/challenges. Something to think about.
This is definitely going to be a 1% completion.
I have and love all the Sniper Elite games and if your are real sniper you are going to take your time .. I know .. So if there are timers in this new game … no thank you I will pass and replay all the old ones. This makes me said :( big games are trying to kill there own games .. games are woak or timers in a Sniper game wtf... Peace Out
Yeah, being rushed in a sneaking game is a huge turnoff. Give me time to plan, give me time to sneak, give me time to hide and and line up difficult shots. It's why I don't even play the survival modes. It's just not fun.
Im just wondering why rebellion dont absolutely mine the resource at their disposal and put out feelers and get some feedback from its customer base in regards to developing a new game
Thanks for this review im looking forward to the new game but this has to say the last dampened my enthusiasm
TOTALLY NO SENSE: I find this whole whining very curious, especially when they say that the devs don't understand their audience, but what audience? The Sniper Elite series does have a loyal audience, but it was NEVER very big, and then the same thing they complained about in 4 and then in 5 "oh it's the same game with just new missions", but then the devs finally bring something new to the game, something to catch the attention of more people, something almost like a competitive challenge, because ALL great games always have something like this, that's why they maintain large audiences and then all this whining comes, and worse, for something that isn't even mandatory, like the survival mode in 5, yes, it unlocks new weapons, but even so it's not mandatory, after all, 90% of the audience of the series plays the campaign and never comes back to the game.
Not even the public knows what they want, and a clear example of this is what is said at this moment 10:22 because you just described EXACTLY what the entire series already has, that is, you don't want anything different, YOU JUST WANT MORE OF THE SAME and then complain AGAIN that the game is just more of the same, at another moment you complain that this mode will only be in certain areas of the map and not in the entire map, that is, again, asking for just more of the same, I have never seen such a senseless criticism as in this video!
I cancelled this one . Once again I’m being turned off what was a great enjoyable game. Now where do I go
We need an indie WW2 sniper game that focuses on stealth and sniping...
Sad that we are on a timer bs
Hi BrutalBarracuda, I have a problem with Sniper elite 4: I want to get the 100 percent of this game but there's a ribbon that asks win a round of elimination withouth dying.
The problem is that I do it many times and I never get the ribbon.
I writed to Rebellion but they don't answer, I'm writing to tell you if you can write them.
Greetings and thank you for read this message.
contact rebellion support by email instead of spamming your problem under every se video. if it's really a bug, don't expect it to get fixed. se4 support is over.
@@Core2TOM facts! I’m starting to think he’s just trolling now
@Core2TOM yes, I do it many times but they don't answer, even I write him in every video, I write to BrutalBarracuda because he has more contact with Rebellion
@@estefaniamorcuende7039 you can ask the community managers, give them some info about your copy (system, version etc.) but as said se4's support has ended, so it's a waste of time anyway.
@@Core2TOM Ok thanks, but I don't know how to do it, can you explain me?
If I was u contact rebellion and tell them your view of this
Remind me of Gears of War 4 they killed the franchise are a car help notice that it's sort of a Call of Duty sort of thing as well.
This is what happens when you listen to Microsoft.
It wouldn't surprise me if Microsoft Xbox were involved in this
Been playing this series since original Xbox, so I'm gonna play it. But yeah, the premise you're describing seems like it might be lame.
The Sniper Elite franchise jumped the shark with SE5, everything has been downhill since. After putting in like 2,000 hours into SE4, I put in just enough time to do the achievements in SE5, and I don't play it at all anymore. 👎👎👎
Finished 4 long time ago. Now after completing 5, i went back to 4 and couldnt play it. It felt clunky and wind and bullet drop is damn unrealistc in se4
@@hugoboss917 Yeah, SE5 is probably more popular with causal gamers.
@apreslin yeah I'm kind of in the middle, semi pro. Finished all 2-5. Last one on authentic.
I'm canceling my pre order. Lmao wtf is this?
No Survival missions
Rebellion have confirmed Sniper Elite Resistance includes Survival mode.
Yes it is FG42
If your going to get angry blame Microsoft xbox having more say what's in this game mode.
I'm not really sure if Xbox will be putting this on Game Pass but if they do you can rest assured the Microsoft has had have said what they want
The Propaganda Missions look horribly arcade-like. I hate timed missions as much as I hate escort missions. Rebellion's lost the plot with this. The only thing that still has me interested in this game is what they're doing with my favorite mode, Survival.
Timer challenges just promotes turning OFF Invasion mode! Huge mistake from Rebellion!
Its very unlikely Invasion mode will be available during the propaganda challenges.
Timed missions, tailing missions, disarming the nuke missions,rescue the people before they blow up missions- ALL suck!!
I probably wont play them.
I'll play the game, but I'll skip the propaganda mission. Maybe I'll give it a try at the end; if I don't like it, it will be untouched forever.
Well, so much for stealth or pacifist runs… 😢
I’m sorry, but if you’re going for a pacifist run, a sniping game might be the wrong choice.
I loved overwatch missions in 4 (albeit there not been many) - it's an absolute shame those never got expanded.
Timers ? Yeah NO ONE asked for this. I prob. completely ignore this, hope the survival maps are good and i'm fine.
Anyway would prefer a mode like said overwatch with a spotter and a sniper (take as much time you need).
I would also love the old leaderboard style back and the prestige system from 4 etc.
I mean what does community input do at all if they simply ignore everything, leave everything annoying from 5 in resistance.
Running and gunning as they call it you would get oblitarated in 4 on authentic +... sucks to see this shit again.
I will treat this as a dlc to 5, so far the maps look absolute fantastic but that's all I can praise.
Was 5 a bad game ? Not at all, I still prefer 4 ANY day over it.
I just got a refund for my pre-order.....looks disappointing right now.
I’d much rather have zombie army dlc but thats a separate game now so they can milk that for more dlc booooooo
I don't know why anyone would be disappointed that you are rushed by a timer in the propaganda challenges. It's ADDITIONAL to the main campaigns which doesn't have a timer. It's not like they've changed the main game missions to include a timer. Some people like the timed element, so it caters for those who do. It's like survival mode, it's an additional element which is not like the main game. Some people like that, some people do not. Wouldn't get too wound up about it. As I say, it's not as if they've changed the main game is it
Yeah, but again, a lot of the weapons need to be unlocked through those, including the Mosin.
hey rebellion, put some actual effort into the game instead of the same rehashed sniper camera shots, enemy comments. the only thing you do well is the size and detail of the maps. been playing since SE3 , and its the same game over and over again........... im not dropping 70 on a game ive already played. And screw mission timers.. listen to your base .
I already pre ordered so nothing is going to discourage me from buying this game
I'm not trying to discourage anyone. I'm trying to keep everyone well informed thats all 👍
Ok bro...
Zombie Army Assemble! 🤡
But the timer is only for the propaganda challenge. You can simply play the normal levels and take your time to explore. You're making a bigger deal out of a side game than you need to. Stop spreading this propaganda! 😂
@@taqmobile 🤣 I made it quite clear that the timer is only for this propaganda mode and NOT in the campaign.
@BrutalBarracuda more propaganda
It's not like propaganda challenges are compulsory.....anyone who doesn't like them can just not do them.
If you want to unlock all the guns and attachments then you must complete all the Propaganda challenges.
But they do appear to be eating up map space that is unavailable in the main campaign...
Timer in propagander mode🤬 f.u.b.a.r, not happy about that, which idiot came up with that idea🤔 developer been on Psychedelics again🤣
Guess Sniper Elite no longer wants an authentic francise, certainly not the sniper ethos, hope they rethink it and remove the timer..wont hold my breath though😉
Happy hunting Barracuda🍺🥃🫡
** NEWS FLASH ** the writing is on the wall, Rebellion has LOST the PLOT 100% or is it true what @gerintium as written below?