Deere 1025R Internal Changes. More extensive than I thought! (vs. 2014)
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Tractor Time with Tim notices a lot of changes under the hood of his new 2018 John Deere 1025r as he installs wiring for the TKV20 Material Collection System and the Artillian Grapple wiring. The 2014 model JD 1025R looked a lot different under the hood and floorboard. TTWT shows the differences and how he installed the new wiring due to these changes.
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This vid is so important for me. Started to figure out , using TerraKing’s instructions, how to pull the wiring harness for the TKV20 on my 2020 1025R. Got stumped how to pull the wiring on the right side and then to the rear. Watched this vid again. Have to say with out this fantastic demonstration don’t think I could have done it. Thank you.
Thanks! Glad it was helpful.
New lights in the shed/barn are working out well...camera shots are really clear.
one thing that got me on the difference was when I did my 50 hour service, I watched your video on doing the service and I thought I was going crazy because I could not find the grease fittings on the front axles for the steering. I went through the manual twice and watched your video several times before I checked with my local dealer and he says " oh there is none for that on the 2018" LOL! Hope everything is going great for you all! Shop looks awesome by the way!
Landon Fraser down below is correct. I just went out and looked at my 1025r again, just purchased in February this year, it does have the gap in the hood. Thanks again for promoting the Edge Tamers. Mine finally came, were a five minute install, and I pushed a pile of leaves to see what they would do. No damage to the ground by the bucket edge, made much more of a mess with my R4 tires in the soft earth. Of course we got just enough snow in central NY last night to mak the roads slick for travel but not enough to try plowing with the bucket and Edge Tamers. Thanks for the video. I won’t let my wife see or she will have me taking apart tractor to clean all these books and crannies every week as well!
Thanks for your comment! Glad you are enjoying the edge tamers!
Howdy TTWT... I rototilled a baseball field for a school this evening in the cold windy conditions, and I never complained once...lol Seeing you working on the tractor makes for warmer weather sooner than later, and like you, can't wait to get outside more to have biggie fun. Great video, your patients showing all those details are very much appreciated !
Thanks Herbie!
Tim, looks like you got some sunshine in your shop now!!! Well done Jason!
I agree u are correct
but your heritage and the farms and history are the true American dream to be very proud of and people who don’t farm need to know the history of how hard your family worked for it..
I sincerely hope you will always keep the music that you play from beginning to end in your videos because I really think it’s unique to what you do for a living I like the sound of the music because this kind of nostalgic makes you think of a light breeze In the summer time you’re out in the country drinking a glass of Lipton iced tea and you’re playing that wonderful music
I've had the 2018 model now for a little over a year and wish this video was available then. It took me so long to get that floor board off and to connect in all my new relays and switches. Great video
Thanks Tim for all the videos, they have been a big help. Just got a new one 4 days ago.
Congratulations!!!
A tip: To aid in unlatching the hood of my tractor I took a plastic rod appx. 1/4” dia. or just a bit smaller than the opening of the latch release and 1 1/2” long drilled a small hole in one end and put it on the ring with they key. Always with the tractor and might be a safety reminder to shut the tractor off before opening the hood.
I use my tractor key to open my hood. I have a 2017 2032R
It would be a great idea to install your canopy before mowing season! 😎🦏
Thanks Tim & Christy👍😊 Nice comparison between models. Hope you enjoy your new Johnny😃 Casey is looking good😉
I like the lights in the barn. Spring is coming. Stay warm and safe.
I like em too! Thanks Jason and Chris!
Tim, if the heater is a Propane "salmander" , they do give off WATER as a by product. If you have steel walls and roof, you might get condensation, it could freeze, or drip as rain inside when it cools.
Here in New Jersey it is called 'split wire loom' Id comment more but still watching the video. =) And yes Tim, you need heat in your shed, we can see your breath from time to time.
I saw my new 2038r today it's in the shop this week getting curtis cab, wheel spacers, fluid in tires,front 3 point, and engine heater. I will try to sent you pictures next week at delivery.
Inspired by Tim
Congratulations!!
Getting to know your tractor - nice job - And wow, Kristie is quite the wrench turning helper - good job Kristie
Wow you can see all the details with that bright light in the shad.
It is really bright!
Love all your videos but so happy to see you get back into the "nuts, bolts and guts" of the tractor - well done sir... and ALWAYS great to have a help-meet to assist as well !!!
We try to mix it up!
Lights look great in the barn! Definitely brightened it up.
Yes, thanks to Jason and Chris!
Thanks for the video Tim. I have to tell you that I didn't watch the entire thing but will very soon. I have some wiring I need to run and am going to take my iPad in the garage with me. Very detailed and will definitely watch this multiple times. Thanks again!
Yes, I know. Probably too much packed in a single episode, but I couldn’t figure out how to split this into separate episodes.
@@TractorTimewithTim NO,NO! It was perfect it needed to be log and detailed. I love the the long videos as i said before.
Given that the tractor is supposed to use various attachments, I am surprised there is no T channel in the frame for wires and hoses. I am not mechanically inclined but with the Kenworth W900L tractor we had some of the same issues. Thank goodness for zip ties and that slit tubing you were showing we used that for insulation and to prevent chafing. I do not know what it is called but I have seen it also used in commercial iring.
My 2014 had the "hood gap" you showed here as well Tim. It's an easy fix just by loosening the hood brackets and readjusting them to your liking & it will close much better. Good video. 👍
May not be so easy with those gas struts pushing against it
@@TractorTimewithTim Ummm...it may make it more of a challenge, but I have faith in you 😉. Try this, maybe disconnect the gas struts then readjust the hood & see if it closes better, then hook the struts back up & see if they still push the hood up. I'm really curious now because I was considering putting struts on my 2014 if the application would work.
Great information about wiring! Love the new shed, great to be able to work on something without being crowded!
Will be nicer when Climate controlled!
Wire loom tubing is what I’ve always called it. Great video!
Say I love you guys tractor time with Tim.
You can also use the key for the hood. And our new tractor has a bad hood gap from factory too
At about 14 minutes. It's called "wire loom" that protects wires.
you read my mind:) well if i recall that is what GM called it anyway.
darthvader4hire everyone calls it that.
Frustrating when shooting a video and I cannot think of the right term!
@@TractorTimewithTim Split loom tubing... The other option you can use is Tesa tape the high heat exterior tape is either 51026 or 51036.
@@FishFind3000 where I work we call it convoluted tubing or convolute. I grew up calling it loom though.
I love your videos man! You provide so much information and attention to detail to every thing that you cover it really helps and makes for a good informative video. I cant wait to get a sub compact tractor!
HI Tim: In response to your question, the product is called "Wire Loom".
Tim, I also have a 2018 1025R and I noticed the same bolt has fallen out of yours. The bolt/washers/ spacer / flange nut that attaches the fuse panel to the machine. I also noticed you moved the bolt that was originally just in the bottom hole to the top hole. Its amazing on how many of these tractors that that one bolt seems to loosen up and fall out. Luckily for me when i removed the side panel everything except one washer and the flange nut was sitting there. I replaced these flange nuts with Nylock nuts and they haven't moved since.
Tim you are so lucky to have someone as know age ableist Chtisty to help you. On Johnny. The both of you work together to get things done. Inspiring to say the least. Wayne from Wisconsin
Thanks Wayne. Yes, Christy is amazing.
U MADE ME FEEL LIKE I CAN DO THAT , ITS A LOT BUT IT SEEMS SIMPLE AS LONG U TAKE UR TIME . TKS.
Yes. No single step is difficult..
My hood fits the same way. I've tryed a few different ways to get it to close properly. It's like the latch is too high. Great video thanks.
Enjoy watching even if mine is orange! Thank you all for sharing !! HIS best is yet to come !!!!! GOD bless !!!! EDDY
Thanks Eddy. Keep enjoying your orange tractor!
Good video Tim. Interesting differences.
How's she goin'? Lots of differences/changes. But are they all improvements? Oh well, they're there and they work, so all is good!! Thanks for posting and the detail was excellent!!!
Thanks!
I've always that tubing referred to as "Convoluted Tubing" in the dealer auto parts lists.
Thanks for the video Tim & Christy!
Wire loom tubing is all I've heard that stuff called!!!
Tim, two presumptions. The steering column/pedestal is probably used on more than just the 1 series. Obviously it is most likely used on the 2025R. It was probably redesigned to enable it to be used on more than one model, which goes along with what you are saying “economy of scale”. Next, with regard to the baffles just aft of the radiator. I presume that is to help divert air out the side vents of the cowling, this was probably to get heat away from the operator and keep the engine cooler. I’m sure they still want some air to flow around the engine to carry possible fumes away. Just my take on it. Jeff
Great video. I'm surprised on all the changes. I have a 2015 and it has those little gas shocks on the hood.
Loom it’s called wire loom. Rubber grommets are great for when running wires through holes in frames or sheet metal and even plastic anything protecting from cutting or chafing.
Tim I had a house bunny that chewed through a lot of wires in our house and cost me a ton of money. That plastic wire conduit was not cheap, but it protected against that darn rabbit.
I know it not a 1025R but I have a 2018 2025R and my floor is in 3 pieces which make it much easier to remove.
At 6:31 the hyd line you pointed out it is the steering control diverter line. It supply's the the power steering with oil.
The wire loom is protecting the fuel supply line and fuel return line.
Hi Tim. We know it here as Split Loom. you should always remove the Ground cable first from the battery. less chance of causing a spark, and if you have any electronics there would be no chance of damaging any part of it. you could also have went to the starter with your power wire instead of going all the way to the battery.
The tractor key works well to release the hood latch.👍
Tim, great videos. By the way, 2019 model of 1025r has the jewel on the top of the hood.
I’ll let you know in 3 weeks. I bring my JD home. They have to order the snow thrower, 54 in deck, mid buster, hiller.
The 2016 version of that lawn mower looks to be much improved.
I had the exact same bolt fall out of the fuse box on my 2018 1025R (Little Mean Green).
Tim, great video! Excellent tips for routing wiring.
Hi Tim and Christy great video in my part of the world Tim we call that cable tidy
I like it!
Tim spring on the way pretty soon it gonna be 70"" and sunny 🌞🌞🌞🌱🌱🌱🌳🌲
Can't wait!!
Split loom tubing is what that is called in many parts lists.
Nice video Tim thanks
I use to own the 1020, might date myself a bit with that!
It wouldn't be a 50 HP 1025R. Instead it would be a 1050R. I think that would be awesome too.
we have a 23 hp boomer new holland but were planing up grading to a 62hp l6060
Well thought of a major hp and torque upgrade is entertaining. The poor transmission probably wouldn't last under a heavy load.
@@jaybee2344 deeres here in canada dont have compact tractors with 50hp only compact tractor here in canada is 50 hp kubota L4050 and 62hp kubota L6060
@@michaelmactavish1728 Thats cool. But I am sure the transmission was built to handle 50 hp too.
But I am not saying Deere can't build a higher power compact tractor. Its all about marketing it to a certain demo.
@@jaybee2344 i had a deere compact tractor for drive and it sounded like the piston getting ready to go in the engine wich not good for a $50,300 30hp deere compact tractor and try lift heavy the engine would die so tryed the kubota compact 62hp it worked nicely and smooth plus has a engine stall guard wich pervents engine stalling wich is a slick gadget
Look at that bright shop
WooHoo!
Look at the lights in that barn........looking good Tim, however I may be biased.........lol
Oh my! They work!
Good video tim have a great weekend
Hi Tim I have a 2018 1025R my hood is of a little bit not as bad as yours I both mine bran new. I see on a older video your 14 1025R you had a chrome elbow pushing the exhaust away from the front attachments just wondering where you got it. All of my front attachments are getting all black from the exhaust. I live in Vermont you never no what the weather brings up here. I like all of your videos. You do a great job with all your equipment. I want to buy a grapple for my tractor.
Darned generous with your limited time to go through all the disassembly several times before doing it for the video.
I think you'll want to carry your hood release tool all the time, good thing you have the tool box. Don't want to be without it when the engine temp rises and you need to pop the hood to clear the radiator screen.
I just picked up a 2014 1025r. The engine is stuck. Not sure about the history, aside from someone put something other than diesel in it. Only 400 hrs in good shape. I am going to start working on it tomorrow, found your channel and checking out more info on these cool little machines. So far I haven't seen any videos on engine removal, maybe I should make one.
I haven’t needed to do anything serious with or in the engine. So, no ‘inside’ videos.
@TractorTimewithTim well I suppose that's a good thing. This was definitely a case of negligence. But I did get it for a steep discount
Could those pneumatic cylinders that support the hood be causing the hood to be deformed/ They'd still be applying a significant amount of pressure on the hood when it's closed. I've had similar problems on other items that used those cylinders.
I think you may be right!
My 2016 has the pneumatic hood cylinders..so it was then or before. I still have the old latch and bolts to remove the side panels.
love your videos buddy
I'd be happy with a 1038R!
Sounds good. Where do I order?!!!
@@TractorTimewithTim every time I go to my JD dealer I mention the things I see or that they should change on the tractor to pass on to their JD rep. Never hurts to try, they might listen if enough people ask for something.
I see u have the frount guard on yours also. My neighbor got a new one and his did to. I wonder if that is standard equipment now???? Also I moved my rear lights on the inside of the roll bar. Harder to break them lol. Enjoy your videos. Wasn't getting them for awhile didn't know wat had happened but back with u now. Thanks for all the great info and God bless
I'm surprised deere ran the exhaust forward. Do you smell it often? My 955 jd exhausts directly left and I get to smell it fairly often. I wish it was vertical of out the back of the tractor.
Tractor Tim aka Tim the tool man, "more power , ruff ruff ruff !" LOL!
I’ll add to the “wire loom”, they make a “high heat” wire loom indicated by a dull white line that runs the length of the loom. OEM vehicle wiring loom is usually high temp, exp under the hood and under the vehicle. High heat loom is much stiffer than the normal stuff. Ok, enough of that, back to your regular scheduled programming...
Great stuff Tim!
You use they key to open the hood
Your lighting was great!
Thanks!! Love the new lights!
It's called wire loom. At least that what I have found it commonly called. God bless
Mine is a 2018 from last May, and it also has the extra gap along the hood sides. Yours looks like MAYBE a bit more, but, hey, it's plastic. I fired mine up and at idle when cold the engine shakes a bit more, so I'm thinking that gap may be to prevent the hood from rattling against the sides.
My mower deck height adjustment knob is not concentric to the dial around it, making it hard to get a good setting. Can't find anything out of place, and no way to center them together. Is yours this way also?
So close to buying the Kubota. May I ask what was the deciding factor? Your videos are much appreciated!!
Michael, have you seen our 11 episode direct comparison between bx and 1025r?
Thank you. Will check it out.
Here is a link to the website article. All episodes are linked from there:
tractortimewithtim.com/2019/08/03/kubota-bx-vs-deere-1025r/
This was quite comprehensive. I think you will find it informative.
For example, there were areas where we omitted info or stated incorrect info. So, we had followup episodes to correct and clarify.
In other words, we did our best to be accurate.
Hi Tim forgive me if somebody already posted this I have a sneaky suspicion that your hood and maybe side panels have been replaced my 2018 hood and side panels fit snugly together and I have the chrome tip on my hood which yours seems to be missing ???
The hood latch was made that way. Your supposed to use the engine start key to open hood
My 2016 hood was the same way with the gap brand new
I think the pneumatic cylinders on the hood are what cause the poor fit. My 2016 hood fits the same way.
Well can easily take them off to test that idea
That’s what I think too, mine is the same way 2018
Did you have to get wire ends to plug into the back side of the fuse box where you added the new fuse? If so where can you get them? Thanks.
does the 1025r use regular spade fuses or mini fuses
I have a 2018 and the hood is the same way about it brand new it’s a 1023E
John deere now offers a kit for 3rd function hydraulics on the loader with thumb control. $1600
I think Johnny could use some closed cell foam sound insulation on the hood and access panels.
But that might hold heat in.
Tim, if you ever want to compare anything between the old style 1025R and the newer one, my 2017 is just across town from you.
Almost forgot, David. We still need to get together sometime!
Tim that would be a great time I’m sure. I don’t have all kinds of attachments to show off but I have a definite love for our Johnnies and the amazing possibilities of what they can do.
We can supply attachments!
@@TractorTimewithTim Yes you have a couple that are on my want list, Tiller and Post Hole digger. But alas, I have to save up for a cruise before I can save for those :(
Keep er Green!
My 2018 1025r has the same issue with the hood not fitting the body panels.
When I purchased my 2018 1025r they mentioned that John Deere was coming out with their own 3rd function kit for the 2018s on. Does anybody know if there is an advantage to using JD’s? It it more streamlined?
From what i know about it is that it will be like the 3rd function on the bigger loaders where the valve is mounted to the tractor and you run hyd. lines out to the loader.
I can let you know next week when they complete mine... it will be incorporated into the new joy stick, out to the new Frontier AV20 F 53" root grapple bucket on my 2018 2025R
Great job enjoyed that!!
Your comment on the fasteners was real punishment!
Tim, I knew the hoods were plastic but I didn't know the platform was plastic too. Are the rear fenders plastic also?
Yes.
Hi Tim Having trouble starting my 1025R. Battery is good but starter motor makes a click noise and stops. Sometimes it starts especially after I tap the starter with a mallet. I assume I need to replace the starter but wanted to ask if you have any videos that address this issue or what your opinion might be?
It sounds like a starter issue. On other machines, we have sometimes been able to get it to "eventually' start by trying repeatedly. switch off/back on/start./ off/back on/start. Often it will eventually start.
How many hours on this machine?
@@TractorTimewithTim 565. I does start with a little patience doing what you said. But want to get this fixed before i get stuck somewhere!
Well done tim.are you planning to go to germany this fall for the agritechnika ?
Tim in your video, on top of the engine I notice what appears to be studs sticking up from the top of the engine ...
Similar to the ones that held the old style air cleaner bracket to the top of the engine ...
I'm assuming Yamar didn't make any engine changes over the years??...
Yes, those are the studs used for the 2014-2017 air cleaner disaster!
my hood on my 1025 is the same way. also my key and throttle lever plastic came off at 80 hrs .
other wise its a great machine I like a lot .