Game Theory: Please Come Home... (Andy's Apple Farm)

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 11 гру 2021
  • Special thanks to Opera for sponsoring this episode!
    Download Opera GX FREE! ► operagx.gg/TheGameTheorists
    & get complete CONTROL over your Ram & CPU usage!
    Get Your Holiday Theory Wear NOW! ► creatorink.co/4wj
    Welcome back to the special corner of Game Theory reserved for the cute games that have a deadly darkness hiding just under the surface. Today, we are talking about Andy's Apple Farm. I played this over on GTLive and knew I had to make a theory. There is some creepy stuff hiding in this game. Get your flashlights ready Loyal Theorists, this is about to get DARK!
    Find out more about the game HERE! ► store.steampowered.com/app/18...
    SUBSCRIBE to Catch all the Theories! ► goo.gl/kQWHkJ
    Need Royalty Free Music for your Content? Try Epidemic Sound.
    Get A 30 Day Free Trial! ► share.epidemicsound.com/MatPat
    #AndysAppleFarm #Creepy #Scary #Lore #ScaryGame #Creepypasta #MatPat #Theory #GameTheory
    More THEORIES:
    FNAF, The FINAL Timeline ►► bit.ly/2MlHYFe
    FNAF, The Monster We MISSED! ►► • Game Theory: FNAF, The...
    FNAF This Theory Changes Everything ► bit.ly/2JUQUn6
    FNAF, You Were Meant To Lose ► • Game Theory: FNAF, You...
    FNAF 6, No More Secrets ► bit.ly/2LVCq4u
    Credits:
    Writers: Matthew Patrick and Tom Robinson
    Editors: Jerika (NekoOnigiri), Koen Verhagen, and Tyler Mascola
    Assistant Editor: Caitie Turner (Caiterpillart)
    Sound Editor: Yosi Berman
  • Ігри

КОМЕНТАРІ • 9 тис.

  • @m36games
    @m36games 2 роки тому +45054

    I’ve been watching Game Theory for the past like 8 years I never thought i would see the day MatPat would cover my game!!!! :D I’m literally crying rn

    • @russellsproutser8308
      @russellsproutser8308 2 роки тому +3697

      nice game man

    • @doobyscoo6599
      @doobyscoo6599 2 роки тому +2588

      you're doing an amazing job with this game dude, you deserve it!

    • @alexdonnelly329
      @alexdonnelly329 2 роки тому +1440

      How much did he get right?

    • @justdreemurr
      @justdreemurr 2 роки тому +381

      POG

    • @m36games
      @m36games 2 роки тому +3139

      @@alexdonnelly329 He got a majority of it pretty spot on, same with SuperHorrorBro. I’m glad I made a story that isn’t too confusing to understand :)

  • @enderteimant740
    @enderteimant740 2 роки тому +6016

    The most horrifying thing about this game is the fact that Margaret is a mole

    • @Spider-Wolf_1999
      @Spider-Wolf_1999 2 роки тому +95

      I call CAP! thats a dog face and we all know it. plus farms have dogs so it makes sense ....

    • @Dbmajor7
      @Dbmajor7 2 роки тому +93

      …w..wh..what? A MOLE?

    • @biwareibone
      @biwareibone 2 роки тому +42

      WHAT THE FAQ!?!

    • @dirthasenteredthechat6005
      @dirthasenteredthechat6005 2 роки тому +38

      WAIT SHE IS?!

    • @biwareibone
      @biwareibone 2 роки тому +108

      @@dirthasenteredthechat6005 confirmed, it says "Margaret the mole" in THE ACTAUL game desc....... this is terrifying.

  • @Pcssesses
    @Pcssesses Рік тому +2139

    MatPat: The only character in the entire game whose name begins with an 'A', *ARTHUR.*
    Andy: Am I a joke to you?

    • @deneshwdolie4691
      @deneshwdolie4691 Рік тому +31

      But andy is a fictional characyer?

    • @-firephoenix-
      @-firephoenix- Рік тому +84

      @@deneshwdolie4691 ok, but it doesn't change the fact that, Andy and Arthur are the only two characters that have "A" at the start of the game lol

    • @calebnotnoob5415
      @calebnotnoob5415 Рік тому +8

      THANK YOU

    • @bobandmrmecaleb5873
      @bobandmrmecaleb5873 Рік тому +7

      @@deneshwdolie4691 🤓

    • @craigdavies2598
      @craigdavies2598 Рік тому +6

      I think its arthur You gotta choose a head-canon

  • @monroerobbins7551
    @monroerobbins7551 2 роки тому +197

    One thing I feel is important to mention is that Lewis talks to you during the body dragging bit. “I don’t blame her. We weren’t alone that day.” That has to be Lewis talking!

    • @ashdoesarts
      @ashdoesarts 10 місяців тому +22

      I'm a year late but I'm so glad I'm not the only one who noticed. The wording is so deliberate, I'm surprised he didn't mention it

  • @entr3_nou5
    @entr3_nou5 2 роки тому +2509

    The beta tester: “hey, so I tested your game and uh... did you program an entire connected flashback on your kid dying, your wife leaving you and you murdering your friend in cold blood because of an affair?”
    Thomas: “oh man those glitches be crazy huh”

    • @SinisterAlex
      @SinisterAlex 2 роки тому +119

      THESE BOTS REPLIES ARE DRIVING ME NUTS WQUEFYQWJFKHJWAEF

    • @daisyjoy242
      @daisyjoy242 2 роки тому +31

      @@SinisterAlex same

    • @MoogusMan
      @MoogusMan 2 роки тому +14

      @@user-nm9zo4np9j wat the hell

    • @Badfuture9191
      @Badfuture9191 2 роки тому +10

      Thomas is dead but yeah imagine

    • @bonezdalucario2606
      @bonezdalucario2606 2 роки тому +10

      @spanishfluhaha ikr?

  • @hxsn
    @hxsn 2 роки тому +12915

    Matpat is literally a christmas present if you're a indie game dev. The best thing to happen if you're a indie game dev is matpat making a theory about your game.

    • @obviouslykaleb7998
      @obviouslykaleb7998 2 роки тому +425

      Matpat checking out the lore is fantastic for fans of indie games. Nothing can make indie games’ fans more jubilant than matpat investigating the intricacies of the former.

    • @m36games
      @m36games 2 роки тому +613

      It really is! I’m freaking out rn!!

    • @owyemen9367
      @owyemen9367 2 роки тому +141

      @@m36games the legend has arrived

    • @PumpyGT
      @PumpyGT 2 роки тому +83

      @@m36games glad youre happy

    • @aflacc
      @aflacc 2 роки тому +67

      @@m36games the man himself

  • @alexuz93
    @alexuz93 Рік тому +122

    I want to know more about Peter the Pumpkin. There has to be more about him. I was fascinated by him the most. The fact that he dismisses Andy when he ask how long he's been in the barn is interesting.

    • @Clockronomicon
      @Clockronomicon 9 місяців тому +3

      Most I can tell is that he’s voiced by a UA-camr @zachbealetv

  • @HonestlyOSC
    @HonestlyOSC 3 місяці тому +34

    Hits harder now that hes gone..

  • @Ava-le6vw
    @Ava-le6vw 2 роки тому +2785

    This game is hilarious tho-
    “Y-you took my keys..?”
    “S-so where are my *keys*?!”
    “Anybody care for an apple?” “……….-blank stare-“

    • @cidercake4373
      @cidercake4373 2 роки тому +182

      Andy is somehow the most logical but then switches to a "I trust my friends." kind of protagonist. But the common sense is refreshing.

    • @fr3y438
      @fr3y438 Рік тому +93

      I don't know Claus, would you care for a clock?

    • @doumaskitty
      @doumaskitty Рік тому +15

      @@fr3y438 best comeback ever

    • @Uncle_honeydropwally
      @Uncle_honeydropwally Рік тому +4

      @@doumaskitty 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @Uncle_honeydropwally
      @Uncle_honeydropwally Рік тому +2

      @@doumaskitty wait so felix why did you take the key when you know he might die

  • @iconica9516
    @iconica9516 2 роки тому +4276

    This guy basically almost explained the Christmas update without playing the Christmas update
    Props

    • @daisyjoy242
      @daisyjoy242 2 роки тому +61

      Impressive

    • @Xendrick
      @Xendrick 2 роки тому +85

      Matpat will be in for a treat once he plays it

    • @tiredghostgirl
      @tiredghostgirl 2 роки тому +11

      Yeah lol

    • @anastasiaraelajynn
      @anastasiaraelajynn 2 роки тому +64

      Was just about to comment that! I kept sitting through it, like, "Ok, are you going to bring up this from the Christmas update?", and MatPat actually explained it better and got more answered SuperHorrorBros Christmas update lore video!

    • @edwardsoup3419
      @edwardsoup3419 2 роки тому +17

      if world war 3 becomes a thing MatPat will probably be the next Alan Turing at this point

  • @Crowzey560
    @Crowzey560 8 місяців тому +9

    Matpat: "A lore that's hidden in the most unique ways, yet. It requires you to lose."
    FNaF death minigames:

  • @abbreymelizmartes3537
    @abbreymelizmartes3537 Рік тому +15

    Fun Fact: during the error cutscene, if you listen long enough some sound audio's can play, specifically giving more evidence that Thomas burnt down the Eastwood Residence.
    The second audio is somebody walking on snow and the 6th audio is the same but faster
    The fifth audio is gasoline being poured and a lighter being lighted.

  • @thecrusader6513
    @thecrusader6513 2 роки тому +3017

    Wow, I have a strong feeling that this game will
    *keep the doctors away*

  • @TheZombersLMAO
    @TheZombersLMAO 2 роки тому +4504

    Something about distorted faces just kinda makes me feel uncomfortable
    But Louis's distorted face... Made my blood run *cold*

    • @harokoujishou7888
      @harokoujishou7888 2 роки тому +385

      Same.. body horror isn't anything special to me but sometimes the distortions just kinda crawl under my skin, sending all kinds of wrong signals...

    • @Raptorknight17
      @Raptorknight17 2 роки тому +146

      I just chose to scroll through the comments while listening to the rest of the video when I saw that...

    • @rycon2267
      @rycon2267 2 роки тому +17

      What part of the video is it in?

    • @rycon2267
      @rycon2267 2 роки тому +21

      nvm found it

    • @wolfnav21
      @wolfnav21 2 роки тому +75

      Everything else was fine until that face. I had to look away

  • @galladegamerletsplays
    @galladegamerletsplays Рік тому +32

    I love the fact that to find all the secrets you have to play the game like a beta tester; basically searching through every nook and cranny to make sure that you find every single glitch or bug imaginable

  • @simonsezz2020
    @simonsezz2020 Рік тому +45

    I feel like the entity might be hiding in the pumpkin guy.

  • @tafffee6032
    @tafffee6032 2 роки тому +4445

    Making a game like this must be so confusing. If there is a bug, you have to try and remember if you intended it or not

    • @akirathewildcard9625
      @akirathewildcard9625 2 роки тому +264

      Drat was that phasing through walls event an actual glitch or is that character a ghost!?
      AAARRRRGHHHFHGFHGGGGH!!!

    • @YeetoTheYeetafic
      @YeetoTheYeetafic Рік тому +57

      the bug wasn't a bug it was coded to make that 'bug'

    • @tacopizzasandwich621
      @tacopizzasandwich621 Рік тому +78

      Solution: make the cutscene immediately after making the bug instead of working on other bugs first

    • @Link-to-the-Smash
      @Link-to-the-Smash Рік тому +21

      It is not a bug if it is Minecraft. Is is a feature.

    • @ronkan1369
      @ronkan1369 Рік тому +27

      what if M36 wanted to make a normal AAF game but it kept glitching so he made it into a horror game

  • @SoulFoxie
    @SoulFoxie 2 роки тому +2571

    Matpat: "And that my friends, is the uplifting story of Andy's Apple Farm"
    Me: "Note to Self: Never ask MatPat for a story to fall asleep to"

  • @CutieReader2
    @CutieReader2 Місяць тому +5

    *is it FNAF gets checked off*
    Me: STOP IT MATPAT

  • @Icarus.or.Theseus9690
    @Icarus.or.Theseus9690 Рік тому +7

    I have a mini theory of sort's, I think the "shadow" person was either an evil spirit or voice's that the person whom was talking in the caption of that photo could see. That or, it was their input of some one telling them or pressuring them to push the "brother" off of the boat. Theory concluded.

  • @astrochaos4182
    @astrochaos4182 2 роки тому +12394

    Even without the creepy lore, Andy’s friends steal his keys, make him do meaningless tasks, then lock him up in a barn with a creepy pumpkin

    • @AlyssaRose1230
      @AlyssaRose1230 2 роки тому +1253

      I think “Andy” needs some new friends.

    • @GaymezFrangler
      @GaymezFrangler 2 роки тому +154

      im surprised this only has 2 replies(including me)

    • @Human_traain
      @Human_traain 2 роки тому +152

      He is sure is lucky to have friend like that

    • @thatbeaninyourcloset9853
      @thatbeaninyourcloset9853 2 роки тому +224

      Plot twist: Andy’s friends are not actually his “friends”

    • @fragrantupholstery2779
      @fragrantupholstery2779 2 роки тому +53

      Maybe because the 'friends' are his family who he murdered

  • @iinfernox
    @iinfernox 2 роки тому +2249

    i really like the small fact that you're a beta tester in this game, because isn't trying to break the game and finding problems what beta testers are supposed to do? Plus, doing exactly that gives you the real lore of the game

  • @person.4588
    @person.4588 Рік тому +15

    man from the Mandela Catalog or something?
    13:21

  • @Posierose13
    @Posierose13 Місяць тому +3

    Am I the only one just now seeing that black figure in the back seat when the scene of Thomas and Arthur at a food place? He’s drinking something 9:10

  • @officialv5miku268
    @officialv5miku268 2 роки тому +3884

    Security breach: *launches*
    Everyone: I can hear matpat screaming…

  • @JokukranTheileochy
    @JokukranTheileochy 2 роки тому +1407

    The part with Isabella is true.
    In the Christmas DLC that just came out, you can have two cutscenes, where you 1. see Isabella escaping the house and running into the forest, and 2. see Isabella hiding in the forest while watching her father killing Arthur with an axe.

    • @chickenmilk120
      @chickenmilk120 2 роки тому +75

      We also see that the entity needs bodies to put the person in the game. So I'm thinking that Thomas fished up Louis body and put him in the game

    • @graciegay4833
      @graciegay4833 2 роки тому +9

      best christmas ever

    • @estaticethan1752
      @estaticethan1752 2 роки тому

      @@chickenmilk120 I think i see what you did there.

    • @DJALUC
      @DJALUC 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/P7qeDfTGO6Y/v-deo.html . ..

    • @magiciantoonienotfound6718
      @magiciantoonienotfound6718 2 роки тому +2

      Solution can't solved how did Isabella died after her family died.

  • @Capybara2385
    @Capybara2385 3 місяці тому +5

    Goodbye Matpat

  • @kkotheracountnstuff8209
    @kkotheracountnstuff8209 29 днів тому +2

    "Our first and only charachter to start with the letter A"
    Andy: Am I a joke to you?

  • @midgematic8659
    @midgematic8659 2 роки тому +1463

    I think if Isabella isn’t actually dead, that would make “Melody” in the game an empty vessel. The character was made to house Isabella’s soul but right now its really just coding inside a game.

    • @PERSONUNREAL
      @PERSONUNREAL 2 роки тому +79

      spoilers for the christmas special
      Isabella is still alive as proven in the Christmas Special
      it could be possible that she was taken into the game whilst alive, as it's not actually confirmed what happened to her after Thomas dragged Arthur's body away
      there will probably be more clues as to what happened to her in the next chapters, including Baylee (a new character)

    • @kidistabraham8059
      @kidistabraham8059 2 роки тому +5

      I agree I also think that in the Christmas update the flower character is a vessel for sam

    • @purplecobra5218
      @purplecobra5218 2 роки тому +22

      or maybe, Melody is coded with Isabella's memory somehow. that could be why she keeps putting messages in the game like:
      I'm sorry
      I felt something was holding me back
      LET ME OUT
      So basically Melody could be a virtual twin to Isabella

    • @purplecobra5218
      @purplecobra5218 2 роки тому

      @J Dude get out of here

    • @emptymimic5976
      @emptymimic5976 2 роки тому +9

      I'm probably wrong here, but this could also explain why she has less secrets in her minigame than the rest of the characters.

  • @neonchao
    @neonchao 2 роки тому +3802

    Finally, a game theory episode on one of the newest horror games.

    • @lfkkkfk862
      @lfkkkfk862 2 роки тому +3

      ua-cam.com/video/ntI5PNUHDUs/v-deo.html
      *Finally its heree.*

    • @nathanmendoza3146
      @nathanmendoza3146 2 роки тому +51

      @SillySanta surreeeee

    • @kirbninja
      @kirbninja 2 роки тому +42

      @SillySanta you make plushie videos 😑

    • @colourman2126
      @colourman2126 2 роки тому +7

      Fnaf soon tho.

    • @denizerol258
      @denizerol258 2 роки тому +4

      Super horor bro already made theory

  • @AllayDoesntExist
    @AllayDoesntExist 10 місяців тому +3

    They all posses emotions, Isabelle=Fear, Thomas=Greed,Louis=Happy,Arthur=ß?£% and the waiter at the bar is freaked out...

  • @longshot9757
    @longshot9757 Рік тому +7

    "There's always another secret."
    -Kelsier, Cosmere

  • @TheRainbowMnM
    @TheRainbowMnM 2 роки тому +3582

    What I like about Andy's apple farm is the fact that, unlike alot of horror games, the protagonist is actually aware that the things that are happening aren't normal and he questions things
    Edit: wait a sec- why didn't I get a notification about all the comments? Lmao😰 and thanks for the likes as well💃

    • @Angiesunshine13
      @Angiesunshine13 2 роки тому +255

      like when peter pops up he's like "bro pls just let me get my keys"

    • @rosiered6712
      @rosiered6712 2 роки тому +146

      I thought about that too! I think he might act more like a person because he is actually a person stuck in the game, but that doesn't explain why the other then act with some strange twisted sense of logic

    • @fiyufii8160
      @fiyufii8160 2 роки тому +45

      @@rosiered6712 maybe it's because he was the last person to be put into the game. Like assimilation or something

    • @justdiffrn
      @justdiffrn Рік тому +18

      I think that the game IS the entity. Remember how near the end, we're shown a scene with sam? When Sam touches the game, a screen is shown saying: Be not afraid Sam, You will be with he soon. This makes sense since everyone has some sort of relation to the game and the "technology" Thomas created is an AI. One that is so smart, that it can take a physical form, and persuade. force, or take over someone to do their bidding!

  • @kcahxter
    @kcahxter 2 роки тому +3323

    It’s amazing how a game that looks so innocent has one of the most terrifying lores I’ve ever seen

    • @the_darkgameryt
      @the_darkgameryt 2 роки тому +11

      ikr

    • @lilymnx
      @lilymnx 2 роки тому +107

      lets be honest.. its always the innocent looking games.

    • @mkcheerio
      @mkcheerio 2 роки тому +51

      @@lilymnx I'm late but *cough* *cough* doki doki literature club

    • @toonasag
      @toonasag 2 роки тому +3

      Yes 🤣😧

    • @UmarKhan-eb7bl
      @UmarKhan-eb7bl Рік тому +1

      @@lilymnx you got it...

  • @salteeth
    @salteeth Рік тому +8

    I love how everything that possibly could have been an inspiration for an indie horror... IS!!!!!!!
    You've got something from Omori, the outlined triangular noses of the Walten Files, and of course more obvious things mentioned in the video... It's kind of an awesome combination

  • @helvp
    @helvp Рік тому +2

    2:11
    “So yea I think my family is the lake can you go fish them up for me?”

  • @j-drummer9132
    @j-drummer9132 2 роки тому +1756

    Matpat: a mystery a day keeps the Fnaf theory’s away
    Security Breach: imma bout to end this man’s whole career

    • @Hypernova609
      @Hypernova609 2 роки тому +13

      WTF IS WITH THIS COMMENTER BOTS Your un-lucky dude to have these bots on your comment

    • @frostthelioncat3927
      @frostthelioncat3927 2 роки тому +2

      @@Hypernova609 Just report them

    • @Hypernova609
      @Hypernova609 2 роки тому +1

      @@frostthelioncat3927 idk know how thoe

    • @frostthelioncat3927
      @frostthelioncat3927 2 роки тому +3

      @@Hypernova609 you hover over the comment and click the three little dots on the side and click report and click the reason of reporting

    • @Bristol_Lively
      @Bristol_Lively 2 роки тому +3

      More like, “I'm about to continue this man's whole career”

  • @l-art-stuff-l
    @l-art-stuff-l 2 роки тому +1932

    “as a beta tester, *you’re* goal is…”
    the feeling of power that you gain from noticing a typo in a game theory video immediately is like no other

    • @Fleshi_Guy615
      @Fleshi_Guy615 2 роки тому +117

      "HAHAHA, Mat-Pat, YOU FOOL, now I have the power! YOU HAVE MADE A GRAMMATICAL ERROR! I SHALL USE THIS AGAINST YOU FOR ALL OF ETERNITY! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAAHHAHAHAWCJUJPOIUYTRRUYT JHGFIGTYUIOPLKHGFDSA":L}{POI?>

    • @settonsan7
      @settonsan7 2 роки тому +21

      @@Fleshi_Guy615 dude chill

    • @Fleshi_Guy615
      @Fleshi_Guy615 2 роки тому +67

      @@settonsan7 Sorry, I get carried away with Maniacal laughter sometimes.
      It happens

    • @l-art-stuff-l
      @l-art-stuff-l 2 роки тому +15

      how did you read my mind over the internet 😳

    • @hannatude
      @hannatude 2 роки тому +42

      I decided to give Mat the benefit of the doubt and chalked it up it as a meta joke - beta testers/editors are supposed to catch that sort of thing, right?

  • @Peepin_
    @Peepin_ 5 місяців тому +2

    Hey Louis wanna go on a boating trip?
    The monster: I’m gonna do what’s called “a pro gamer move “

  • @Undertale-Orange
    @Undertale-Orange Рік тому +1

    1:50 I like how when he said “Glitches?” you can hear a mild stutter in audio to make it sound glitchy

  • @yeriu.u9910
    @yeriu.u9910 2 роки тому +1590

    playing the game “incorrectly” is something beta testers all do, it’s what we’re hired to do in this game AAAAA I LOVE THIS GAME

    • @PanthereaLeonis
      @PanthereaLeonis 2 роки тому +124

      Exactly! Our job is to do all of the dumb stuff, to see if the game breaks, or has a response to our bs!

    • @MissCaraMint
      @MissCaraMint Рік тому +42

      And it literally tells us to do that in the beginning too.

    • @katlovegood4921
      @katlovegood4921 9 місяців тому

      ​@@PanthereaLeonisbro how do u become a beta tester

    • @NotAPolarBearXD
      @NotAPolarBearXD 7 місяців тому

      @@katlovegood4921 when the game needs some testers they will invite you if you're lucky

    • @RekhaLahkar
      @RekhaLahkar 7 місяців тому

      ​@@PanthereaLeonis hello @pantherealeonis

  • @TimeBucks
    @TimeBucks 2 роки тому +927

    The part with Isabella is true.

  • @tokyohanamura
    @tokyohanamura Рік тому +3

    NGL, I'm digging Opera GX. Got my best friend to make the jump from Chrome recently too!
    The features that really helped influence the jump were the PiP mode, sidebars to quickly jump on FB Messenger/Twitter/Discord, game release calendar, & their own little corner for browser games!
    Originally, we stopped dead in our tracks after hearing that Opera is now owned by a shady chinese parent company (quick Google search will reveal all). However, researching further showed that said parent company still has to bend down to the laws of where Opera's HQ is based
    So, yeah... I'm with MP on this, GX is pretty damn cool

  • @nikthealmighty8046
    @nikthealmighty8046 Рік тому +6

    I remember I was watching my friend play this over a discord stream and at the fishing minigame I jokingly said "hey just drag the body against the floor" and so yeah we found that by accident lmao

  • @Gunkers
    @Gunkers 2 роки тому +1357

    Louis’ face is still one of the scariest parts of the game for me .

    • @undertoxic3992
      @undertoxic3992 2 роки тому +5

      Same

    • @elanaswart1727
      @elanaswart1727 2 роки тому +3

      Who is louis

    • @RucaDoo
      @RucaDoo 2 роки тому +17

      @@elanaswart1727 the kid who drowned at the bottom of the lake

    • @elanaswart1727
      @elanaswart1727 2 роки тому +1

      @@RucaDoo oh. wel i never played it thats why i was asking thx

    • @grapeboi4939
      @grapeboi4939 2 роки тому +4

      timestamp pls

  • @toby.theram2496
    @toby.theram2496 2 роки тому +979

    14:27 this gets proven in the Christmas special in a hidden cutscene. You can see Isabella fleeing the burning house but Kamryn is being held back by the entity

    • @king_of_fools1212
      @king_of_fools1212 2 роки тому +47

      Yes some one actually knows about the dlc thank you

    • @steviebea
      @steviebea 2 роки тому +15

      omg that’s so spooky i love it

    • @PsychedelicCharm
      @PsychedelicCharm Рік тому +3

      I'd hate to see the Halloween special.

  • @kateb1127
    @kateb1127 2 роки тому +5

    Hey, just found out there is a Christmas version of this game which has even more codes and lore. I've tried to decipher it but I'm not sure if I did it correctly...

  • @user-lx8jf3nm6v
    @user-lx8jf3nm6v Місяць тому +2

    Image what we say to thomas ....'uh yea so your game has alot of glitches...like dead kids , you , nightmare faces , and a dieing family and dieing friend'

  • @thatonehuman3072
    @thatonehuman3072 2 роки тому +880

    Finally an indie game that gives us lore that we can *EASILY FIND*

    • @bonbon5173
      @bonbon5173 2 роки тому +30

      *cough* fnaf *cough*

    • @GhostlyPrecious
      @GhostlyPrecious 2 роки тому +23

      @@bonbon5173 cough fnaf children cough

    • @ppphhhoooeee
      @ppphhhoooeee 2 роки тому +22

      @@GhostlyPrecious cough fnaf children dying cough

    • @bread2512
      @bread2512 2 роки тому +18

      @@ppphhhoooeee *cough purple guy killing kids cough cough*

    • @slapstixck
      @slapstixck 2 роки тому +9

      *cough* *cough* dead children in animatronics *cough* *cough* *cough*

  • @Goat-on-a-Stick
    @Goat-on-a-Stick 2 роки тому +1050

    Something about seeing those poor outlines on some of the sprites sends me back, for some reason.

  • @hayaonly1499
    @hayaonly1499 Рік тому +2

    I feel like these kind of episodes, are rollercoasters 🎢
    I LOVE IT!

  • @BuritoNoobMan
    @BuritoNoobMan 9 місяців тому

    Can we appreaciate how much he puts detail into his intros! everytime its diffrent and matches the game hes theorizing

  • @korijan2660
    @korijan2660 2 роки тому +467

    "The first and only name to begin with the letter A."
    The game, being called *Andy's* Apple farm:

    • @amythestmuse22
      @amythestmuse22 2 роки тому +16

      They mean RL character, not in game one though.

    • @korijan2660
      @korijan2660 2 роки тому +32

      @@amythestmuse22 I know, I just thought it was funny to mention even if Andy doesn't really exist

    • @GustavusAdolphus2
      @GustavusAdolphus2 2 роки тому +9

      @@korijan2660 or does he... 🗿

    • @sehwang1078
      @sehwang1078 2 роки тому +2

      @Kori Jan But in the game, isn't Andy technically Thomas?

    • @angelerror4086
      @angelerror4086 2 роки тому

      @@sehwang1078 well, tthat would break the pattern of real name and it doesn't make sense, whhy would thomas's virtual name be next to kamryn and isabella real name?

  • @garynumber22
    @garynumber22 2 роки тому +572

    Actually Thomas didn't start the fire. If you play the Christmas dlc theirs a scene where you see how the fire started. The Christmas tree fell into the fireplace additionally we see what happen before Thomas killed Arthur. Thomas feeling bad about blaming Isabella for the death of Louis buys her a Christmas present to give her but when he got to the house it was burned down with Arthur standing in the ashes. Thomas immediately blames Arthur for the fire and for killing his family before picking up an axe and killing him.

    • @sboy2044
      @sboy2044 2 роки тому +51

      But in the audio during the error screen you can hear someone walking in snow, and then someone pouring liquid, probably gasoline. So Thomas was probably partly responsible for the fire, maybe he couldn’t remember because he was controlled by the entity.

    • @6ft_turkey_tea913
      @6ft_turkey_tea913 2 роки тому +3

      I’m starting to think that the fire audio that you hear in the error screen might have been in an entirely different situation that we haven’t seen yet.

    • @sboy2044
      @sboy2044 2 роки тому +1

      @Alfie Bell That's literally what I said.

    • @CAndromeda4536
      @CAndromeda4536 2 роки тому +8

      it sounds to me that thomas was under control of the entity or dark figure possessing everyone and probably poured gasoline outside of the house so that the house burns quicker then usual, even though the christmas tree started it. Then after he left the house okay again, he bought the present and went back with no memory of what happened. thats what it sounds like to me

    • @graciegay4833
      @graciegay4833 2 роки тому +2

      that makes more sense.

  • @ErMatadorMatao
    @ErMatadorMatao Рік тому +5

    this video is the vivid example of what I've heard a few days ago from another youtuber: horror games nowadays are not about _horror_ but about _lore_ and _theory videos_ 💭

  • @archephobia.
    @archephobia. 2 роки тому +3

    Film Theory idea: BFB. It's a series on YT about objects doing a competition to win a BFDI. There's a character I've kept my eye on (Four). They're full of lore. Please make a theory on it!!!!

  • @alien_frenzy9434
    @alien_frenzy9434 2 роки тому +408

    The Christmas update drops a lot of canonical lore. Thomas left the house after the argument with Kamryn, when he came back the house was ash and Arthur was standing there in horror. That's why he believed Arthur was to blame for their deaths. Also, I think Kamryn and Thomas had already been split up before Christmas? Because Arthur has his own stocking hanging on the fireplace, but none for Thomas. I mean I guess you could have a stocking for your best friend, but it just seems odd that Thomas didn't have a stocking in (what is believed to be) his own home.

    • @yukigiakiama4795
      @yukigiakiama4795 2 роки тому +17

      Thomas probably does have a stocking, it just isn't hung up because Kamryn kicked him out. I do agree that having Arthur's stocking is very suspicious as he was just told to watch over them, I definitely think Kamryn and Arthur got together whilst he was doing so and she got him a stocking to replace Thomas.

    • @karto2807
      @karto2807 2 роки тому

      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 💜 nude.snapgirls.today/diana/? 💜 PRIVATE S*X
      #ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね!1#万人を超える人が見ていたもんね(笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした!#今後は気を付けないとね5). .
      !💖🖤❤#今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#1万人を超える人が見ていたも ん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!( #笑)#垃圾

  • @cucumbere
    @cucumbere 2 роки тому +416

    10:04 I was watching this in my room, and right when it switched to this part, my dad opened the door and asked me to come down for dinner. Scared the living sh*t out if me.

    • @bearbean2063
      @bearbean2063 2 роки тому +21

      "parents scare the living sh*t out of me"

    • @3nn3d6
      @3nn3d6 Рік тому

      -.. .- -- -. / -... .-. --- -....-

  • @biggerproblem9409
    @biggerproblem9409 10 місяців тому +2

    The youngest getting kill by the oldest, a figure, friend setting a fire and souls getting trapped? Mat cant excape fanf

    • @Thatguyplayvr
      @Thatguyplayvr 10 місяців тому

      I have heard of fnaf BUT FANF NOW WHERE TALKING

  • @mesasimonson6612
    @mesasimonson6612 Рік тому +8

    This game is less scary than sad
    By like 5:55 I’m already crying
    I mean I’m a pretty emotional person but c’mon

  • @justashrimp7594
    @justashrimp7594 2 роки тому +788

    The fact that I already knew they were dead spirits showing their deaths to the so called "player" through "trials" just by matpat telling me them and the trials, means that I really am becoming a theorist

    • @itsFireBRND
      @itsFireBRND Рік тому +11

      Not really. It just means indie horror games are predictable as hell, matpats "theories" aren't even well thought out

    • @bonniedykstra6722
      @bonniedykstra6722 Рік тому +3

      Same actually when I watched markipliers video I realized that the game characters represent the characters in the real game

    • @bonniedykstra6722
      @bonniedykstra6722 Рік тому +5

      @@itsFireBRND F off like you could create a successful theory channel with theories that take months to construct and are always either high quality or really fun

    • @justashrimp7594
      @justashrimp7594 Рік тому +13

      @@itsFireBRND .... Well, can you make a theory that makes perfect sense AND is fun for the viewers to watch as well for over .... (Was it 5 years?) 3+ years!?

    • @vatuznik
      @vatuznik Рік тому

      !-I-!-I-!-I-!-I-!

  • @Sapphire-qo2ij
    @Sapphire-qo2ij 2 роки тому +485

    Matpat: Arthur is the only person with an A in the start of his name.
    Andy: Am I a joke to you?

  • @hudalovestodraw3249
    @hudalovestodraw3249 7 місяців тому +2

    i played the game but when Thomas was confronted with the entity, i counld see it grabbing him with a claw. It was like a sillouete, but you could hardly see it

  • @rosethewolf5786
    @rosethewolf5786 10 місяців тому +1

    4:00 "Ya know something spooky's happening when your eyes start melting"
    - Matpat, 2021

  • @mochithedragoncat9084
    @mochithedragoncat9084 2 роки тому +223

    The Christmas special shows that it was actually a Christmas tree that fell into a fireplace and isabell escaped. Isabella also saw Tomas murder Arthur, and how Tomas is put Arthur in the video game.

    • @ShawtyGrim
      @ShawtyGrim 2 роки тому +3

      What Christmas special? I haven't seen one

    • @glitch6436
      @glitch6436 2 роки тому +8

      @Yui Chan yeah it exists search up super horror bro he has game play and an explanation

    • @ShawtyGrim
      @ShawtyGrim 2 роки тому +1

      @@glitch6436 thanks! I'm going to watch it (although Its prerty dark outside and very scary )

    • @kisshu1993
      @kisshu1993 2 роки тому +3

      I hope he plays or takes a look at it but I highly doubt that

    • @sillyguy444
      @sillyguy444 2 роки тому

      and also how thomas went and received louis’ body himself to put him into the game as well

  • @youtxbe_r8191
    @youtxbe_r8191 2 роки тому +274

    "This game reveals lore in one of the most unique ways yet... it requires you to lose"
    *Laughs in Ultimate Custom Night*

    • @karto2807
      @karto2807 2 роки тому +1

      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 💜 nude.snapgirls.today/diana/? 💜 PRIVATE S*X
      #ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね!1#万人を超える人が見ていたもんね(笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした!#今後は気を付けないとね5). .
      !💖🖤❤#今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#1万人を超える人が見ていたも ん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!( #笑)#垃圾

    • @coldlordx5419
      @coldlordx5419 2 роки тому +1

      @Florin beby shut up

    • @gandir-ih8ju
      @gandir-ih8ju 2 роки тому +1

      i'm actually surprised that more than 2 can group up

    • @youtxbe_r8191
      @youtxbe_r8191 2 роки тому +1

      @@gandir-ih8ju lmao yeah

  • @Watermelon-on
    @Watermelon-on Рік тому +2

    It's so weird how Thomas Eastwood died off date but Arthur died in the exact same date as everyone else. 14:31

  • @MichaelGD1337
    @MichaelGD1337 13 днів тому +3

    8:47 they’re been slaughtered by the house 😂

  • @ColorHeartCarlie42
    @ColorHeartCarlie42 2 роки тому +401

    Bet the creator is going to be happy to see this, imagine your indie game now getting huge attention as of late.

    • @m36games
      @m36games 2 роки тому +15

      I never expected Andy’s Apple Farm to get this popular! Honestly my lifelong dreams have been accomplished!

  • @nightwatch3889
    @nightwatch3889 2 роки тому +300

    I am hopelessly obsessed with game lore. It's almost a childish obsession; game lore is literally my favorite thing in this world and seeing these videos makes me burst with joy lol.

    • @user-xh8gq8fz3n
      @user-xh8gq8fz3n 2 роки тому +3

      Wowww ua-cam.com/video/FSSFgWlDbJU/v-deo.html…..

    • @owyemen9367
      @owyemen9367 2 роки тому +16

      Lore in general is just cool but I think it's better in video games since it isn't mandatory and you have to look for it often times

    • @owlstar_cherryblossom8326
      @owlstar_cherryblossom8326 2 роки тому

      haha same

  • @notjustpictures7293
    @notjustpictures7293 Рік тому +7

    Imagine the actual beta tester for this game he must be going insane

  • @gianttvcoyote
    @gianttvcoyote 9 місяців тому +1

    You missed something. If you wait for long enough on the title or save screen (I can't remember which one) you can hear: walking in snow, pouring gasoline, lighting the gas, running in snow and burning

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 2 роки тому +324

    Games like this just make me realize that we won't be able to parse the legacy of FNAF on media and especially video games for years yet. These sorts of lore puzzle box, media influences, nostalgia tinged horror games really have exploded basically into their own subgenre.

  • @Cl0udy_901
    @Cl0udy_901 9 місяців тому

    The art is amazing omgg

  • @Lavender0_0
    @Lavender0_0 2 роки тому +1

    BRO HOW DO YOU PUT ALL OF THESE PIECES TOGETHER AND MAKE THEM MAKE SENSE!?!?

  • @redninja0078
    @redninja0078 2 роки тому +187

    Matpat: *Doesn’t play the Christmas special.*
    (Also) Matpat: *Predicts it anyway and succeeds in his previously mentioned prediction being correct.*
    *Mission Passed: Respecc+*

    • @DJALUC
      @DJALUC 2 роки тому +2

      ua-cam.com/video/P7qeDfTGO6Y/v-deo.html

    • @redninja0078
      @redninja0078 2 роки тому +7

      @@DJALUC Delete this comment right now, I’ve had it up to here with you ding dang random link spammers! Tell me, what does this have to do with anything!? Delete, right now!

    • @redninja0078
      @redninja0078 2 роки тому +2

      @Vanspelt Gacha I don’t know and don’t care.

    • @thevioletskull8158
      @thevioletskull8158 2 роки тому

      true

    • @redninja0078
      @redninja0078 2 роки тому +5

      @Vanspelt Gacha You can if you want, I have no interest, that’s all. And I’m tired of these ppl spamming links, you’re not clever, you’re not funny, you’re not getting me to watch it.

  • @supercalifragilisticexpial2703
    @supercalifragilisticexpial2703 2 роки тому +510

    Hey, Matpat, I have a suggestion for an ARG to do a theory about: It's called Happy Meat Farms, and it's about a company that is secretly doing experiments on animals and humans, for preparation for a "new world order".

    • @bewbug66
      @bewbug66 2 роки тому +21

      yeah, its a rlly cool ARG n connected to two other youtube channels. we need to get matpat to see this 😈

    • @maggieent3215
      @maggieent3215 2 роки тому +10

      Very disturbing imagery though, be warned

    • @Elili7190
      @Elili7190 2 роки тому +3

      Yes! Just keep liking this comment bb!

    • @thepinkestpigglet7529
      @thepinkestpigglet7529 2 роки тому +3

      That was a weird one to stumble upon looking for cartoon theories

    • @fbi6403
      @fbi6403 2 роки тому

      bro you know he ain’t gonna see this

  • @thecasualairsofter778
    @thecasualairsofter778 Рік тому +1

    there is a new game by the creator that says "This action-packed platformer planned initially to release in 1986, is the last video game ever published by "Eastwood Games." " its called rabbit knight

  • @teagankottlenberg1570
    @teagankottlenberg1570 Рік тому +8

    did anyone else see the words at 7:40 area.... I played it slow and saw the name ted but that was all I could see.

    • @Alexia_Blue
      @Alexia_Blue Рік тому +2

      Just the text on the screen repeated and glitched,no worries

  • @sleeby4226
    @sleeby4226 2 роки тому +373

    “Our first and only name beginning with the letter A”
    Andy: am I a joke to you?

    • @RoseBirdz
      @RoseBirdz 2 роки тому +15

      But the name gotta be in the game from the family. Andy is not from it

    • @myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070
      @myweirdsecondchannelwithap9070 2 роки тому +3

      @@RoseBirdz its a joke

    • @anjavinding5412
      @anjavinding5412 2 роки тому +2

      Wow 2 bots...great...

    • @karto2807
      @karto2807 2 роки тому

      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 💜 nude.snapgirls.today/diana/? 💜 PRIVATE S*X
      #ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね!1#万人を超える人が見ていたもんね(笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした!#今後は気を付けないとね5). .
      !💖🖤❤#今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#1万人を超える人が見ていたも ん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!( #笑)#垃圾

    • @AKA.CrystalStarTheFox
      @AKA.CrystalStarTheFox 2 роки тому +2

      @@anjavinding5412 now 3 💀

  • @imtrash7041
    @imtrash7041 2 роки тому +265

    I love how Monika's head is casually just hanging off a tree

    • @fe4rmemrwickyt_796
      @fe4rmemrwickyt_796 2 роки тому +23

      heres a regular reply dude, since so far every single reply to this comment has a hyperlink in it

    • @imtrash7041
      @imtrash7041 2 роки тому +1

      @@fe4rmemrwickyt_796 :D yay thanks finally

    • @BarioIDL
      @BarioIDL 2 роки тому +4

      because sayori is in her house

    • @endernightblade1958
      @endernightblade1958 2 роки тому +10

      you’d think it’d be sayori
      i’m not apologising.

    • @DUSHEVNIK
      @DUSHEVNIK 2 роки тому

      ua-cam.com/video/dRXNMXJZN5A/v-deo.html

  • @3Dmilkcartorn
    @3Dmilkcartorn 5 місяців тому +3

    0:06 space invators easter egg

  • @hyomin_live_4_heichou
    @hyomin_live_4_heichou 11 місяців тому +2

    I hope someone's able to tell Isabella that Louis doesn't blame her for the incident. Imagine the guilt she would have had to live through.

  • @SaintyBoy_
    @SaintyBoy_ 2 роки тому +544

    i cant wait for Mat Pat to make a lore about “Happy’s humble burger barn”

    • @estaticethan1752
      @estaticethan1752 2 роки тому +5

      Wait, did you watch Superhorrbro's playthroughs?

    • @SaintyBoy_
      @SaintyBoy_ 2 роки тому +11

      @@estaticethan1752 nope, i only watch kubz scouts play thru, sorry man

    • @estaticethan1752
      @estaticethan1752 2 роки тому +5

      @@SaintyBoy_ that's alright

    • @karto2807
      @karto2807 2 роки тому

      ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 💜 nude.snapgirls.today/diana/? 💜 PRIVATE S*X
      #ライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#かならりやばかったですね!1#万人を超える人が見ていたもんね(笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした!#今後は気を付けないとね5). .
      !💖🖤❤#今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!#この日のライブ配信は、#1万人を超える人が見ていたも ん(#笑)#やっぱり人参最高!#まさかのカメラ切り忘れでやら1かしたのもドキドキでした #今後は気をライブ配信の再編ありがとうです!( #笑)#垃圾

    • @thedoodlandanimatoranimate6488
      @thedoodlandanimatoranimate6488 2 роки тому

      @Karto³ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ no one gives a öuəph.

  • @shade9725
    @shade9725 2 роки тому +115

    the fact that he doesn't talk about the Christmas special at all and yet has still managed to Crack the lore of both games amazes me

    • @adhyniaa
      @adhyniaa 2 роки тому

      @J Dude sus link

  • @TheEternalSteelAngel
    @TheEternalSteelAngel 2 роки тому +2

    Okay MatPatt, great opening.
    I add;
    I am terrified.
    Thank you.

  • @lovelyinroses
    @lovelyinroses 7 місяців тому +1

    that intro made me shiver again

  • @michaelwu2088
    @michaelwu2088 2 роки тому +229

    Can we just appreciate the effort and the rate at which these come out.

  • @darkwastaken930
    @darkwastaken930 2 роки тому +609

    MatPat literally explained the whole thing to me in 19 minutes

  • @cjr4444
    @cjr4444 Рік тому +1

    great video matpat, looking forward to your next Andy video.

  • @aalayahappleby6901
    @aalayahappleby6901 Рік тому

    Cool attachment to the intro and yes I saw those hidden words they were not too fast for my fingers to pause and read

  • @gameyfirebro9645
    @gameyfirebro9645 2 роки тому +231

    MatPat: "keeps the fnaf away"
    Andy's apple farm: just gonna use the bite of 83 chomp sound for the car door, and hope he doesnt notice.

  • @fartnuts98
    @fartnuts98 2 роки тому +384

    There is a game called “ kill it with fire”, and it has a LOT of hidden (kinda) lore in it

    • @AlexYazanGames
      @AlexYazanGames 2 роки тому +14

      Thats my childhood

    • @AlexYazanGames
      @AlexYazanGames 2 роки тому +10

      I didnt know that

    • @pacoelcholo
      @pacoelcholo 2 роки тому +1

      JellyBean Profile picture gang!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @redengineer4521
      @redengineer4521 2 роки тому +3

      kill it with fire has lore? the game about killing spiders?

    • @fartnuts98
      @fartnuts98 2 роки тому

      @@redengineer4521 yes.

  • @prosciuttomega695
    @prosciuttomega695 Рік тому +2

    8:17 the toymaker tragedy: hey heyy

  • @HeavenlyMercury2800
    @HeavenlyMercury2800 6 місяців тому +1

    I find it hilarious that any DDR-style game is now referred to as FNF, that's how big FNF has become

  • @michaelar9954
    @michaelar9954 2 роки тому +100

    it's honestly impressive that he figured out stuff that was revealed in the christmas dlc before he played it

  • @Eren-ue8ig
    @Eren-ue8ig 2 роки тому +364

    Note to self: don’t watch game theory videos when you’re in the house on your own

    • @AlyssaRose1230
      @AlyssaRose1230 2 роки тому +18

      Too late😨

    • @AdmiralPJ
      @AdmiralPJ 2 роки тому +20

      too late i already did and fell out of my chair when i heard knocking

    • @elanaswart1727
      @elanaswart1727 2 роки тому +12

      Great i am even more scared. I want to learn about that game but i am not build for horror games other than fnaf.

    • @juvenilescam
      @juvenilescam 2 роки тому +8

      pls im literally watching this at 3 am and didnt knew im actually gonna be scared...but I am.

    • @evanrhynold
      @evanrhynold 2 роки тому +6

      Or at 7am after staying up all night

  • @sniper_bird9091
    @sniper_bird9091 Рік тому +1

    I love how he makes a fun intro for most eps

  • @BxnnyzT1me
    @BxnnyzT1me Рік тому

    This was the first video I watched on game theory and I still love it so much ❤

  • @sarafontanini7051
    @sarafontanini7051 2 роки тому +172

    a couple things:
    the scene where we see Thomas directly confront the demon has a knife and a bloody spot visible in it, suggesting Thomas figured out a ritual to summon the directly, and while he looks scared he's definitely looking quite confrontational (repeatedly poitning at the demon aggressively). This could be Thomas realising the demon twisted his desire to see his family again, or thomas directly demanding the demon bring him back with his family...which would certainly tie into the idea of the demon doing JUST THAT by turning him into Andy and trapping him with his family.
    an another thing: nothing so far explicitly says the demon NEEDS to kill anyone to trap them in the game...all he'd need as a catalyst is Thomas beleiving they are dead so as to manipulate thomas' desire to be back with them. So perhaps the reason Isabella and Louis don't have a death date iss a clue that the demon doesn't NECESSARILY need someone to DIE to trap them in the game, merely the BELIEF that they are dead.