This is what I love about Scott Stokely, he explains what seems like the bleeding obvious, in a way that makes you feel like it's new information. Then you realize in some ways it was.
I know this a super old comment and video, but I wholeheartedly agree. I feel like I understood this on an instinctual level to some extent but never really thought about it that hard. Breaking it down so clearly and concisely, I feel like I can make a more conscious decision when picking a disc.
Love throwing the Berg for those short Par 3's ...I almost used it as a putting putter but those circle edge putts took more effort to perform..Still a cool disc..That edge groove on the top feels really good
Scott, that lesson from your clinic comes into my head every time I play and I can't tell you how many times that's kept me out of trouble. 90% of my approaches now are a Deputy or Harp and even complete shanks are recoverable. Went to your clinic in June, entered my first MA3 tournament in September, have won 2 since, and I'm already being forced up into MA2. I owe a lot of that to you. Thank you and best of luck out there.
This video made me go back and revisit golf books like Arnold Palmer Situation Golf, the book Smart Golf, and Butch Harmon’s Playing Lessons. You’re just scratching the surface of a whole area of exploration of how to play the course, and how to approach holes, that’s beyond just throwing discs. Keep it up! Rooting for you in ‘22!
This is still one of the best videos I have ever watched on disc selection! I share it with all of my friends and new players. I even come back to it myself from time to time. These two theories have dramatically influenced how I play the game. Much Praise 🙏🙏🙏
Nice breakdown I would also urge new players to buy bright colors when possible. I have played a bunch of rounds with new players who buy gray, black, browns and then spend a lot of time trying to find them in the rough. Think about where your landing and pick a good color not white for snow or brown or leaf colors in the fall.
Awesome vid. I've also found there's room to reduce margin for error depending on the ceiling. Sometimes on an approach with a low ceiling, even though it's short, a mid or FW driver can work better, as long as you can control the speed. I've watched many, many a player try to force a putter into a low ceiling and watch it drop down barely in C2 if that...then 2 more shots to get in the basket. (although, this is also where plastic-type can come into play as premium plastic can skip a bit more with a putter than softer/grippier stuff...which is another option for low ceiling...though sometimes the putter will stop short on less skippier ground)
i like sidearm standstill when i try to hit the gap up to 300ft and there is always the right disc but sometimes i put too much or not much angle on it :)
Hey Scott! Great content once more! Thanks for your vids, they've made me a better player (on paper at least, not nearly enough rounds this year...). I especially like that you don't deal with absolutes, but take into account differences between players (physique, skill, etc..). Also, happy new year!
There goes another stroke off my round. Thanks Scott. We are gonna play some what we call "1, 2, 3, 4 rounds" this off season - we can only use discs of speed 4 or less during the round.
I've had to come to terms on a hole recently. It's about 360ft dogleg left. Thick trees on left, casual creek and trees on right, about a 40-50ft wide fairway. It makes you think I have to throw LHFH(I'm a lefty) or RHBH. I have learned to just throw LHBH as I'd rather end up long and right than short left and surely take a bogey. My buds still try to go RHBH with a stable disc, end up short left and take the bogey. I'm pleading with them that they are falling into the trap and that the best shot is just something straight out or even better a shot that ends up a little right, so you have an easy approach. Hopefully they see this video
These are good heuristics, though they are somewhat dependent on having a level of proficiency with all the basic shots at all the disc speeds that a lot of amateurs probably don't have. The biggest trap I notice myself falling into is doing things that I know are possible for me but that I have a low chance of executing.
I felt the same way. My forehand is not strong so the hole may be calling for a simple forehand fade but that's not my strong suit;. Plus the best play is not always going straight to basket.. I would like to see more advanced analysis with real players.
I've been playing for about 18 months and my bag has went from completely packed to 9 to 13 at most. And I'll will say I have noticed that my game is a lot better.
This was excellent - but how do you draw the line for slowest disc that can reach the basket and slowest disc that can ACTUALLY reach the basket? For instance on a wooded course round this week - I technically CAN throw my putter 250ft, but I have to start ripping the power hard. My midranges, though, I can actually get that far, though they also pretty reliably shoot over that. Is the answer still the putter if I’m going 95% on it?
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Best of luck on the tour Scott. We're all really looking forward to watching you compete.
This is what I love about Scott Stokely, he explains what seems like the bleeding obvious, in a way that makes you feel like it's new information. Then you realize in some ways it was.
Rookie of the year next season😎
Went from around 25 disc to 17. Vaulting all my 10 speed plus until I’ve mastered fairway drivers. This video helped so much, thank you Scott!
Love how you break concepts down so simply. Can’t wait to see you go hard this coming season!
I know this a super old comment and video, but I wholeheartedly agree. I feel like I understood this on an instinctual level to some extent but never really thought about it that hard. Breaking it down so clearly and concisely, I feel like I can make a more conscious decision when picking a disc.
Love throwing the Berg for those short Par 3's ...I almost used it as a putting putter but those circle edge putts took more effort to perform..Still a cool disc..That edge groove on the top feels really good
Great use of graphics. This will be a game-changer for me. A simple, but an elegant explanation.
Scott, that lesson from your clinic comes into my head every time I play and I can't tell you how many times that's kept me out of trouble. 90% of my approaches now are a Deputy or Harp and even complete shanks are recoverable. Went to your clinic in June, entered my first MA3 tournament in September, have won 2 since, and I'm already being forced up into MA2. I owe a lot of that to you. Thank you and best of luck out there.
Can't wait to see you on some final cards this year and hopefully win some!
Wise words from the master.
So glad i started following your page Scott
I’d love to see this type of analysis on more complex holes with o.b.
The concepts are the same.
Very helpful and informative video. Thanks, Scott!
Great tutorial, Scott. Thank you.
This video made me go back and revisit golf books like Arnold Palmer Situation Golf, the book Smart Golf, and Butch Harmon’s Playing Lessons. You’re just scratching the surface of a whole area of exploration of how to play the course, and how to approach holes, that’s beyond just throwing discs. Keep it up! Rooting for you in ‘22!
Solid advice. Thanks Scott!
This is still one of the best videos I have ever watched on disc selection! I share it with all of my friends and new players. I even come back to it myself from time to time. These two theories have dramatically influenced how I play the game. Much Praise 🙏🙏🙏
Nice breakdown I would also urge new players to buy bright colors when possible. I have played a bunch of rounds with new players who buy gray, black, browns and then spend a lot of time trying to find them in the rough. Think about where your landing and pick a good color not white for snow or brown or leaf colors in the fall.
All my discs are bright ass colors and I still spend half my round searching for them XD
Great teacher Scott....wish i had the time to go to one of your clinics...
I appreciate you teaching this stuff so I don't have to figure it out on my own. Smash.
Awesome video Scott!!! I am always learning more and more from your videos. Thanks for posting
Cool content Stokely, love the graphics and your delivery
Great explanation
best video you've made so far.
Thanks Scott
That was some really good advice, Scott! Thanks!
You want the smallest margin of error not the largest… aside from that you are amazing. Excited to see this next season
I love how you teach too… maybe you will visit Alaska some day
I always screw this one up lol
@@ScottStokelyDG i invert so many things..... totally understood though :)
Great video 👍
Great video! Going to go real slow in 22, starting with the new Berg! Can’t wait!!
Awesome vid.
I've also found there's room to reduce margin for error depending on the ceiling. Sometimes on an approach with a low ceiling, even though it's short, a mid or FW driver can work better, as long as you can control the speed. I've watched many, many a player try to force a putter into a low ceiling and watch it drop down barely in C2 if that...then 2 more shots to get in the basket. (although, this is also where plastic-type can come into play as premium plastic can skip a bit more with a putter than softer/grippier stuff...which is another option for low ceiling...though sometimes the putter will stop short on less skippier ground)
i like sidearm standstill when i try to hit the gap up to 300ft and there is always the right disc but sometimes i put too much or not much angle on it :)
Great advice Scott thanks
Great video Scott! I wish someone had taught me stuff like this when I was a beginner.
That war really helpful. Thank you!
Ï would love a video about shoot selection and the mental game
Hey Scott! Great content once more! Thanks for your vids, they've made me a better player (on paper at least, not nearly enough rounds this year...). I especially like that you don't deal with absolutes, but take into account differences between players (physique, skill, etc..).
Also, happy new year!
Really appreciate this!
There goes another stroke off my round. Thanks Scott.
We are gonna play some what we call "1, 2, 3, 4 rounds" this off season - we can only use discs of speed 4 or less during the round.
I've had to come to terms on a hole recently. It's about 360ft dogleg left. Thick trees on left, casual creek and trees on right, about a 40-50ft wide fairway. It makes you think I have to throw LHFH(I'm a lefty) or RHBH. I have learned to just throw LHBH as I'd rather end up long and right than short left and surely take a bogey. My buds still try to go RHBH with a stable disc, end up short left and take the bogey. I'm pleading with them that they are falling into the trap and that the best shot is just something straight out or even better a shot that ends up a little right, so you have an easy approach. Hopefully they see this video
Great stuff!
I’m gonna need a bigger bag. Lol great info
Even before seeing this video, I applied this to a few holes around where I play being the Peoria and being a Lefty with no forehand yet
These are good heuristics, though they are somewhat dependent on having a level of proficiency with all the basic shots at all the disc speeds that a lot of amateurs probably don't have. The biggest trap I notice myself falling into is doing things that I know are possible for me but that I have a low chance of executing.
I felt the same way. My forehand is not strong so the hole may be calling for a simple forehand fade but that's not my strong suit;. Plus the best play is not always going straight to basket..
I would like to see more advanced analysis with real players.
Thanks for this bud
Love this.
I always pick the thumber lol
The combination of disc flights + shot shapes are why disc golf is best golf.
I've been playing for about 18 months and my bag has went from completely packed to 9 to 13 at most. And I'll will say I have noticed that my game is a lot better.
Keep it simple, like you advise 😉
This was excellent - but how do you draw the line for slowest disc that can reach the basket and slowest disc that can ACTUALLY reach the basket? For instance on a wooded course round this week - I technically CAN throw my putter 250ft, but I have to start ripping the power hard. My midranges, though, I can actually get that far, though they also pretty reliably shoot over that. Is the answer still the putter if I’m going 95% on it?
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Haha, of course it’s only 85 discs in my bag. An old school Innova bag, only holds 84, but I lay one on top. 😅
59 disc's here. But only 5 molds. :)
I’ll try gearing down today in the woods. Maybe I’ll spare some trees their normal bruising.
Choosing a Slower speed disc took me way too long to figure out
Only 39 discs 🙄
94!?!? I carry 12 or less, I want as few decisions as possible.
I think I want to be Player A
If Chris Dickerson carries 45 discs why shouldn't I?
Ok... just real life, throw the disk you can. after that, be well.
87 Scott. It's 87 😂
I'm going skyroller every hole!No really good advice!
Your hats look like you stole them from a baby. JK. Great stuff