Firehouse were one of those bands that came to the scene too late. They were still using the 80ies hair metal formula when they first came out in the early 90ies while Grunge was already on the rise. They could have made it big if they had come out two or three years earlier. They weren't bad but their debut album was kinda the polished generic mainstream bordem of late 80ies hair metal. The record labels forced all bands of that era into the same formula. Only the slightly more gritty bands like Guns N' Roses or Skid Row could keep up a little longer until the new Seattle scene killed them all off.
I don't agree that Grunge did anything to Guns N' Roses. It might seem that way on the surface but I just don't think so. In fact, I think Guns N' Roses were the only mainstream 80s band that had a chance to withstand Grunge. The issue with Guns N' Roses was they just couldn't keep it together. They were junkies plain and simple and on top of that Axl had deep-seated issues that made him a very difficult person to deal with. All that lead to the disaster of them falling apart. If they didn't have such serious issues like this and were able to keep it together and actually release Chinese Democracy in the 90s then I think the mainstream music landscape would've been very different now. So it was really internal issues that had them break apart which just happened to be when Grunge was dominant and that looked like they lost to Grunge but that wasn't the case.
@@DaRunningManSubs I agree that it was mostly Axel Rose who killed Guns N' Roses in the early to mid 90ies. But I don't think that they would have been able to keep up their success if they had released another record after The Spaghetti Incident. I mean look what happened to Metallica or Skid Row. The Black Album sold about 17 mio copies after it's initial release and Load about 6 mio (which is still alot to be fair but nevertheless a huge drop). Or Skid Row for example. Slave To The Grind sold over 2 mio copies in 91 and Subhuman Race sold only about 300 k copies in 95. After the Grunge wave was over bands like Korn, Marylin Manson, Limp Bizket or Linkin Park. The only traditional rock bands that somehow were able to maintain their success were Aerosmith and Bon Jovi. I have no idea how Aerosmith did it. Bon Jovi survived by concentrating completely on gooey ballads. GNR on the other hand was one of those view bands that managed to fill the gap between polished 80ies hair metal and grimy 90ies Grunge and Alternative Rock by being more gritty than the hair metal bands but still in continuation to them. But that period only lasted from around 88 to 92.
Brother I love your show and I always appreciate your honesty! It’s rare in the world we live in. There is a place for everyone in music and sharing honest opinions is what it should be about
This warms the place where my heart used to be…. 🤣🤘 Just for some context , this was part of a Pay Per View special of the Blood, Sweat & Beers tour, which was headlined by Warrant, and had Trixter & Firehouse opening up. As for the backup vocals, all 4 guys can sing lead. Don’t know if they added BGV from the record in post, but they would have to be playing to a click to get it lined up, especially back then. Fun fact, listen to the riff from this and then listen to “Round And Round” by RATT and tell me what you hear…. 😜🤣 Another fun fact: the album that this came from was produced by David Prater, who also produced…wait for it…. “Images & Words” by Dream Theater! 😎 Anyway, keep the “hair metal” coming. Not sure which brings me more joy…the music or your discomfort 🤣
I understand what your saying about no crowd noise but these guys where and are this fucking good live, the feed was probably taken directly from the sound board with crowd noise added. Have any doubts then look up the same song from the '22 Makato rib fest. 30+ years later the backup vocals are spot on. This is live, you are wrong.
I can tell you as a lifelong firehouse fan what they did here was use the live instrument recording and put the vocals from the album in the mix this was ba k when they would repackage and sale those dads or vhs live concerts along with sprinkled in music videos from mtv
no. this is live. they just used the "bye bye, baby bye bye" part on the chorus, but everything else is live. listen to the studio version and you'll notice the difference. for starters, in the studio version, there are two guitar tracks.
I have seen a video somewhere, perhaps from the ''rock on the road'' video where this came from, where they do a soundcheck. During that check you can hear a backing tape with vocals. I think they knew that this would be taped for distribution and decided it needed a bit of extra polish. By the hi hat of the drummer and how he leads in, you can tell that he is starting to a click track. To me that is alright, because i have seen plenty live recordings of them where they sang themselves and apart from being a bit less vocally full, they still sound like one of the best melodic hard rock bands from that era. too bad people judge them too quickly on the fashion of the time.
I'm getting shades of...the movie, "Spinal Tap"! hahaha...long time since I've seen so much HAIR! Slick product! Top 40 star power! A good example of the genre...I'd go, 8.3...Whoa, Dave...six what! I'm not a great fan of the genre, myself, but, c'mon, they nailed it! hehe...Good show, Dave!
No joke brother as a fellow musician these guys fuckin rock live harder than on record
This is live , they were just that good ,there’s actually an official video that’s more polished but this is how they were like in concert
I have this live show on VHS, I really need to convert it to disc & digital. Such an amazing show!
Bro this does NOT even come close to the studio version. You can hear the slight breaks in his voice and the guitar riffs are simplified as well.
I love these guys. Great band from the early 90's that just came on to the scene too late.
Firehouse were one of those bands that came to the scene too late. They were still using the 80ies hair metal formula when they first came out in the early 90ies while Grunge was already on the rise. They could have made it big if they had come out two or three years earlier. They weren't bad but their debut album was kinda the polished generic mainstream bordem of late 80ies hair metal. The record labels forced all bands of that era into the same formula. Only the slightly more gritty bands like Guns N' Roses or Skid Row could keep up a little longer until the new Seattle scene killed them all off.
I don't agree that Grunge did anything to Guns N' Roses. It might seem that way on the surface but I just don't think so. In fact, I think Guns N' Roses were the only mainstream 80s band that had a chance to withstand Grunge. The issue with Guns N' Roses was they just couldn't keep it together. They were junkies plain and simple and on top of that Axl had deep-seated issues that made him a very difficult person to deal with. All that lead to the disaster of them falling apart. If they didn't have such serious issues like this and were able to keep it together and actually release Chinese Democracy in the 90s then I think the mainstream music landscape would've been very different now. So it was really internal issues that had them break apart which just happened to be when Grunge was dominant and that looked like they lost to Grunge but that wasn't the case.
@@DaRunningManSubs I agree that it was mostly Axel Rose who killed Guns N' Roses in the early to mid 90ies. But I don't think that they would have been able to keep up their success if they had released another record after The Spaghetti Incident. I mean look what happened to Metallica or Skid Row. The Black Album sold about 17 mio copies after it's initial release and Load about 6 mio (which is still alot to be fair but nevertheless a huge drop). Or Skid Row for example. Slave To The Grind sold over 2 mio copies in 91 and Subhuman Race sold only about 300 k copies in 95. After the Grunge wave was over bands like Korn, Marylin Manson, Limp Bizket or Linkin Park. The only traditional rock bands that somehow were able to maintain their success were Aerosmith and Bon Jovi. I have no idea how Aerosmith did it. Bon Jovi survived by concentrating completely on gooey ballads. GNR on the other hand was one of those view bands that managed to fill the gap between polished 80ies hair metal and grimy 90ies Grunge and Alternative Rock by being more gritty than the hair metal bands but still in continuation to them. But that period only lasted from around 88 to 92.
Bangalore Choir, Hardline and Blue Tears(From Jackson, TN) too.
Brother I love your show and I always appreciate your honesty! It’s rare in the world we live in. There is a place for everyone in music and sharing honest opinions is what it should be about
I've seen them 3 times here in idaho and they rocked our fuckin faces off
This warms the place where my heart used to be…. 🤣🤘 Just for some context , this was part of a Pay Per View special of the Blood, Sweat & Beers tour, which was headlined by Warrant, and had Trixter & Firehouse opening up. As for the backup vocals, all 4 guys can sing lead. Don’t know if they added BGV from the record in post, but they would have to be playing to a click to get it lined up, especially back then.
Fun fact, listen to the riff from this and then listen to “Round And Round” by RATT and tell me what you hear…. 😜🤣
Another fun fact: the album that this came from was produced by David Prater, who also produced…wait for it…. “Images & Words” by Dream Theater! 😎
Anyway, keep the “hair metal” coming. Not sure which brings me more joy…the music or your discomfort 🤣
Have I ever told you how much I hate you?
I understand what your saying about no crowd noise but these guys where and are this fucking good live, the feed was probably taken directly from the sound board with crowd noise added. Have any doubts then look up the same song from the '22 Makato rib fest. 30+ years later the backup vocals are spot on. This is live, you are wrong.
Go listen to the 90s album version they were huge in the early 90s
I saw them a few years ago before covid and they were awesome live. The backing vocals were very good too. Still hitting all the high notes too.
Love this song from early childhood
I can tell you as a lifelong firehouse fan what they did here was use the live instrument recording and put the vocals from the album in the mix this was ba k when they would repackage and sale those dads or vhs live concerts along with sprinkled in music videos from mtv
no. this is live. they just used the "bye bye, baby bye bye" part on the chorus, but everything else is live. listen to the studio version and you'll notice the difference. for starters, in the studio version, there are two guitar tracks.
True song
It’s good live recording with sound engineers
News Flash! David "Hair"-etic doesn't like Hair Metal.
(Sorry, had to do it.) 😂
I have seen a video somewhere, perhaps from the ''rock on the road'' video where this came from, where they do a soundcheck. During that check you can hear a backing tape with vocals. I think they knew that this would be taped for distribution and decided it needed a bit of extra polish. By the hi hat of the drummer and how he leads in, you can tell that he is starting to a click track.
To me that is alright, because i have seen plenty live recordings of them where they sang themselves and apart from being a bit less vocally full, they still sound like one of the best melodic hard rock bands from that era. too bad people judge them too quickly on the fashion of the time.
I'm getting shades of...the movie, "Spinal Tap"! hahaha...long time since I've seen so much HAIR! Slick product! Top 40 star power! A good example of the genre...I'd go, 8.3...Whoa, Dave...six what! I'm not a great fan of the genre, myself, but, c'mon, they nailed it! hehe...Good show, Dave!
U r very wrong brother Live in Louisiana 1991.Its on utube. Intire concert. Trixter, Warrant.
R.I.P. C.J SNARE
The guitar solo is hard the drummer is great the vocalist is good it's not easy to play I know I played it i in bands in the 1990s
It was good but wasn't hair metal dead at this point?
It's not studio
Thats not studio sir
Man du am not a spert in song but i hear the people noise the music is good so they keepet down. Now you like the music the band o.no ?
What are you like 14 years old? Surely you’ve heard that song. Lol. And no…that wasn’t a live version.
Ovvio che è tutto finto… è Glam Metal, i cori sono finti ma è così che piaceva
Grunge sucks and thank God went away
@@DanielFerreira71717 i honestly dont care i had to learn as many annoying 90s grunge cover songs as 80s the only way to escape is compose origionals.
The producer of the album that song is from is some cat named David Prater. Never heard of him
"I have spoken" Mandalorian reference?