Thomas Linley - Violin Concerto in F major
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- Опубліковано 26 тра 2014
- Thomas Linley (1756~1778)
Violin Concerto in F major
00:02 I. Moderato
08:20 II. Adagio
10:50 III. Rondo
Violin : Mirijam Contzen
Bayerische Kammerphilharmonie / Reinhard Goebel
I also read that when Mozart learned of Linley’s death in 1778 he was devastated. Both of them played Violin together in Italy. In some cases the saying “the good die young” is tragically true for both these highly blessed youngsters.
Well I can tell I'm among musical elite but I must say that after some 40 odd years of music appreciation I've only this day met Thomas Lindley - and where do I meet him? Dulwich Picture Gallery! I can only say I'm very glad I've met him and am surprised he's not better known.
A wonderful work for the violin. This 'English Mozart' deserves more recognition! Also a friend to Mozart. Pity he didn't survive the boat tragedy. The world lost a great gem of a composer.
Thanks for the post!
Jamshed K Delvadavala from Mumbai.
This is amazing, He was under 22 went he wrote it, What a loss .
He died so young! I am touched when I think to the strict friendship with the young Mozart. Two wonderul creatures.Linley could have obtained a great success and left an outstanding heritage.
Magnifique compositeur du 18ème siècle, ! Il a enchanté le public lors d'un spectacle en plein air !
I'm very happy to see that you are rather hear that the legacy of my great great cousin is not and has not been forgotten thank you so much
The solo part is even more interesting than Mozart's! I will have this Concerto restated in Lucca on Spring 2021
I've known about Linley for a long time but never till now expected to her any of his music. Until now. Many thanks for this wonderful posting
This era just amazes me. The number of composers just ambling around who could write like this. This is accomplished and very fun to listen to. Opening with a moderato was telling. This whole piece is just a big showcase for his violin. Hey, I'm not putting him down because of that. That's the way I would do it. I would write pieces to ensure that at all times all eyes were on me. I'd wear my best coat and get my hair done. Sadly, gone too soon but the surviving work is good. I remember reading Mozart's diary in which he expressed sadness at Lindley's passing.
This is taken from a portrait b y Gainsborough. I assume its a hat under his left arm.
Just found out today that he is my son and that I’m a time traveller
At least you don't have to think to hard for a name.
Well I am the great great great grand son of the pub owner he used to drink at, he has a tab we need to speak with you about. He also had a drinking problem.
I’m sorry for your loss, drowning in a lake at 22 is a terrible fate for your future past son.
He died young ( by drowning poor devil ) if he had lived, just
imagine thw wonderful music he could have writen. The English Mozart they called him, such a sad waste
This portrait resembles Mozart a little.
@@finnandjakeonapoptartcat5265 They could be brothers - in fact twins as they were born in the same year. The resemblance is quite clear.
The Linleys of Bath - a talented family.
This is a wonderful concert, but to understand, that some music of Mozart was written 'in heaven', you must listen to wonderful people like Mister Linley.
He was my great great cousin.
Wow that's cool. cheers
You must be proud to have a composer as good as this in your family tree. I can go one better:
Henry Purcell's grandmother was my 10x great aunt.
What was so great about him?
I love Mozart so I met him though Amadeus and now I do love Thomas too
There’s also Thomas Arne
DELIGHTFUL! What a tragic ending to such a remarkable talent. :(
So young😢😢😢
There's a lot of similarities in this compared to Mozart's work, and the funny thing is that I heard the two of them were best friends after Mozart met him on a tour to London with his father. However, despite the similarities in their works Linley also has his own creative musical genius as well. It's a shame that more of his work didn't survive.
+Schoolgirl325 Linley had been sent to Bologna to study violin with Nardini, and met Mozart during his first tour of Italy when the both were 14. Most of what we know of this meeting comes from letters Leopold wrote back home to Salzburg. It addition to the story by TheCrazyCello, Leopold wrote that Linley wept bitterly when Mozart had to leave. I can imagine a lonely boy in a foreign country meeting another boy his age with the same interests and who could speak passable English. Leopold also wrote that the two boys were the same size. Wolfgang wrote to his sister after a visit to St. Peters in Rome that he had to be lifted up to kiss the toe of statue of the saint "because I'm so small". I'm sure that Leopold wouldn't have even mentioned it had both boys been normal size for 14 year olds.
Mozart and Linley met and befriended Linley in Bologna in 1770.
@@drozd334 Florence, actually.
@@AML2000 They spoke to each other in Italian. Actually the letters they sent to each other were written in Italian.
Thomas Linley was clearly a case of ''Those whom the gods wish to destroy, die young''. A tragic loss to English music.
Not just him. His whole family as well.
@@canman5060 not his whole family William and Mary Linley outlived their father
I too am surprised he isn't better known among English composers. I think his 'Song of Moses' ranks with the Messiah.
He would probably me much better known if he hadn't died so young - 22. He is believed to have written at least 20 violin concertos, but this is the only one that has survived - that hardly helps either.
Yes, sad.
Mozart considered him an equal.
He died so young and also his other brothers and sisters. His father also died later of broken heart.
The father died quite suddenly just two months short of his 63rd birthday, which was quite old for the time, so you might be stretching it a bit to speculate that he "died of a broken heart". That said, it certainly was a tragedy to lose so many children in early adulthood (there were also four who died in infancy), and bad news for all of us to have missed out on what might have been an ongoing musical "dynasty".
Linley has his own musical personality, for sure...There is the influence of Nardini, his teacher of course, but also a certain, hard to define, wistfulness that seems to permeate his work. His early senseless death was undoubtedly a tragedy for English music.
Yes, there's absolutely a unique musical personality to Linley. Your word "wistfulness" is interesting, since that is an adjective applicable to Purcell's string writing as well - which, while very similar structurally to contemporary French music (Lully, Charpentier etc) has a harmonic intensity and inventiveness all his own.
Thomas (Tom) Linley the younger (7 May 1756 - 5 August 1778) was the eldest son of the composer Thomas Linley the elder and his wife Mary Johnson. He was one of the most precocious composers and performers that have been known in England.
He also died at 22 I have a whole comment based on his death
We have produced several excellent composers throughout the centuries.
How many viewers were bowled over by William Boyce's glorious coronation offering: "The King Shall Rejoice?
In prima assoluta italiana, il Violin concerto in F major di Th. Linley sarà eseguito a Lucca, nella Chiesa di S. Maria dei Servi, il 18 aprile 2021, alle ore 17.30, con trasmissione in streaming sulla pagina Facebook di Animando - Centro di promozione musicale e sul canale 10 NOITV del digitale terrestre. Informazioni su www.animandolucca.it...
Nardini sure was very proud of his student
Certifié intergalactique ! 🌹
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It's interesting sound' a friend of Wolfgang' he met him when he was young in London.
Thomas Linley the Younger. Very confusing! Died at the age of 22 in a boating accident. Lots of his music lost.
Just found out today he's family 😊
Dear Roman,
I am a researcher and Linley scholar. I would like to make contact with you to ask you if you may have any personal anecdotes passed down from generation to generation regarding your genius ancestor. I would be extremely grateful. I am contactable at johniselogrep@gmail.com.
Best,
John
john iselogrep why do I feel like you said that because you thought he was lying I’m not giving hate but I think he is lying
@@Melissaloveless6154 I think he's lying too.
@@johniselogrep7138 Ya got yerself a weird pen-name by spelling Pergolesi backwards!
I guess, these angels sound...
4:48 Linley Schema (Note)
Bramhs lullaby is very similar to incipit
how could i find this score?
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If you think this is tragic death his brother Samuel died the same way
Samuel didnt die because of fever?
2:42 . 12:44
What
Per a mi un gran descobriment, no coneixia res d'aquest autor i me ha sobtat molt gratament. Malauradament crec que és l'única peça que es conserva d'aquest jove autor. Si algú coneix una altra, el quedaria molt reconegut si em donara raons.
Jo entenc que n'hi ha més obres seues que han sobreviscut, moltes no, però algunes sí. De fet, abans en els comentaris es fa referència a una ('Song of Moses'). Crec que aquest és l'únic concert per violí que tenim però hi ha obres seues de altres tipus que també es conserven.
There is an opera co-written apparently by Lindleys’ senior and junior, with a very interesting story line of family conflict of interest. A very sad loss to English music and then to lose many of his manuscripts in a fire. It obviously wasn’t meant to be.
Thomas Linley died in a boat accident after he fell from it and died at 22
Tragically
I read an absolutely absurd hypothesis in a Mozart biography. It stated that in 2003 a letter was unearthed in Salzburg. It was dated April 1774, and it states that Wolfgang visited the Linley's home a second time. This was unknown until 2003, and some odd information was included in the letter. It says: "My dearest Nannerl, I've just visited the Linley home for a second time! This time, I had an extraordinary time, engaging in exciting and invigorating activities with one of Mr. Linley's children, who's presently 17 years of age. The activities included music, reading poetry and
-------, but I had to unfortunately leave. Anyway, thousands of farewells to you, my dear sister!". With the handy dandy use of infrared scans, archivists have found out that the scribbled out word after "and" was "bedroom frivolities". At this time, the book states, we know that the only Linley child home during the period of 1774 was Thomas Linley, whom Wolfgang met years previously. Thomas' other siblings were all off with relatives, with Thomas staying behind for musical performances and studies. This implies the absurd thought of Mozart and Thomas Linley having an affair. I generally didn't believe it at first, but then realised that there are so many unknown and unexpected things that Mozart did during his lifetime, that there is a chance of this being true. Although we know that Mozart married a woman, Constanze Weber, and had two children with her, there is the chance of a male lover. It could be just a wrong scan, or false information by the author, but, in my opinion, and I know others will be STRONGLY opposed, I think that Mozart was capable of same-gender relationships. Unfortunately, Mozart and Thomas would never meet again, due to the latter's early death in a boating accident in 1778. If this was to be true, we would now label him in the modern day as bisexual or pansexual, whereas in Mozart's day, no official term for homosexual relationships had been developed, due to it being either extremely uncommon, frowned upon or illegal. As seen in this violin concerto, Thomas' style was heavily influenced by that of Mozart, and the pair would often perform Mozart's violin sonatas together. Unfortunately, the larger proportion of Linley's works have been lost to the world, with just the Violin Concerto in F major (this video), three symphonies, an aria and multiple operatic overtures. Anyway, I think that this scanned letter would cause an intense amount of controversy. Just wanted to share!
Sometimes I think something similar about their relationship. What made me think was: the way Leopold Mozart described the suffering of the boys felt when they separated. It is known that they continued to write to each other (at least one very affectionate letter from Mozart to Linley has survived) and Mozart's biographers state that Mozart wrote only to those who were very close to him. In other words, he was not just any friend. There is also the poem that Thomas gave Mozart when they said goodbye to each other in Florence. Leopold says that Thomas sent Corilla Olimpica to write it, and this poem really seems to be a declaration of love. Of what nature would that love be? It is difficult to say. There is also the testimony of M. Kelly in describing Mozart's reaction to hearing of Linley's death. He was devastated. And then there is what Von Nissen says in his biography of Mozart: he speaks of soul mates. I wouldn't be surprised (and I even relish the idea =D) if there had been some kind of "games" between the two without having to call them homosexuals. They probably just liked each other. Mozart liked women and that doesn't mean he didn't also like Thomas, why not? Thomas is not known to have been involved in any love affair. I read in a biography of Thomas that some people think he actually committed suicide (in a book it is explained why. Some reasons are given) Could it have been because of Mozart? Who knows...
People against this theory, don't hate me: only suppositions
@@pecosilla This was extremely interesting to read, and I completely forgot about this comment! I've searched and searched everywhere and I still can't manage to find the biography in which I found that information. It's quite interesting to think of Mozart having intimate relationships with males, especially Thomas, who meant the world to him. Quite often in Mozart biographies, the friendship (or relationship) of Mozart and Thomas is given about a paragraph and then they return to the story of Wolfgang's big Italian tour. In one of my favourite biographies, the one written by British musicologist John Suchet, a whole entire chapter is dedicated to the explanation and explicit details of Mozart's intimate friendship between him and Thomas. Although, no mention of romantic relationships. Still, I personally think that this could be a plausible story, and that Mozart, being the fun-loving, scatalogical, innovative man he was, was extremely capable of having a relationship with a male. He would've enjoyed the naughtiness of it, and would've felt extremely adventurous. Of course, later, when staying in Mannheim, Mozart would fall in love with Aloysia Weber. He'd then go on to marry her younger sister, Constanze. In the same (unknown!!!!) biography, it also stated (if my memory is correct) that Constanze complained in a letter which, of which the recipient was never named and was never posted, that Wolfgang was spending too much time with Emmanuel Schikaneder, the German tenor and writer, who wrote the libretto to Mozart's late masterpiece "The Magic Flute", K. 620. This also brings forth the question if Mozart's (supposed) attractions to males reoccurred during his later years, or never actually disappeared. As absurd as it sounds, and I know that a lot of Mozart enthusiasts will disagree, I personally think that Mozart fell in love with Thomas Linley and maybe even Emmanuel Schikaneder. I myself am a Mozart enthusiast, but I'm more interested in unearthing the secrets that Mozart kept during his short 35 year life, rather than the facts that we already know. Also mentioned in the absolutely splendid, explicitly detailed biography by Jan Swafford, he states that a series of very sexually intimate letters were corresponded from Wolfgang to his sister Nannerl when the former was leaving on his first Italian trip with his father. Scholars first thought that this showed an intimate relationship between brother and sister. But, judging by Mozart's other letters, which display the same sexual innuendo, we can safely say that Mozart's bawdy and risqué sense of humour is the result of these letters.
@@AllComposersbyNumbers Well, you mentioned an important point: Mozart and Nannerl's relationship. I think Nannerl was Mozart's great love but not in a sexual or romantic way: it went beyond that. She was his role model and he thought she was better than him in everything. He adored her and was devastated when he had to travel to Italy without her. Sad, though, how the story ended... To be honest, the two relationships Mozart had with both Nannerl and Thomas are precisely the ones I've really loved and read a lot about. I have noticed that in many translations of the poem Thomas gave to Wolfgang, the translations try to disguise what it really says: Thomas says he will love Wolfgang eternally!!! I think it's a bit of an obvious declaration of love.... I do think Linley was in love with Mozart, I don't know whether Mozart would feel the same way. I'd like to think he would.
@@AllComposersbyNumbers On the other hand, I forgot to mention that the informal biography of Linley that I read was written by a Mr. Coleman who is not a musicologist or anything, just a music enthusiast but who did a lot of research. The biography focuses more on his family history because we have very little on Thomas. There he tells about the episode with Mozart, how Thomas was very distressed when they separated, when he thought that Mozart would forget him, etc. He also puts forward the thesis of suicide, based on information from the time and the situation of the suicides with the church, etc. Unfortunately, and although he acknowledges that Thomas was never known to have had any relationship, he establishes that, if it was suicide, it was for love (based on the information given by a newspaper afterwards) and names the possible women who led him to make that decision. His arguments are too forced and unconvincing. He also translates the poem too forcibly, especially the more "romantic" passages. But, on the whole, it is an interesting work.
@@pecosilla Yes, much of Thomas' life is still quite hazy. The only time he really ever gets a mention in books or other informative platforms is in Mozart biographies. I wouldn't say that Thomas is an underrated genius, because his music is quite mediocre, but I will say that he's often too neglected in Mozart biographies. Although, such as the aforementioned biography by Suchet (Mozart: The Man), he dedicates a whole chapter to the relationship between Mozart and Linley. I remember when I read the theory of Mozart's romantic relationship with Linley and I gasped inappropriately loudly. I like the idea of Mozart having a lover before his adult years for some reason. Of course, in his life, he'd fall in love many times, and have a number of intimate affairs. Obviously if Mozart and Linley were having an "affair" (of which they might have not been conscious of), then they would've never dared to voice it. In Mozart biographies I believe that the extremely intense friendship between Mozart and Linley is slightly toned down. According to letters back to Salzburg by Leopold, he states that the pair were absolutely inseparable. There's no evidence of Mozart ever composing anything for Linley, but I personally think that it's plausible that Mozart may have composed a violin sonata, or atleast a movement for violin and harpsichord for the pair to play. I mean, Mozart was only fourteen at the time, and so his adolescence affected his attractions to others deeply. Many people think of Mozart as this supernatural being, who, through the glory and grace of God, was able to compose works perfectly from his head. Although the second half of this thought is true, the first isn't. He was, as far as physical and mental status goes, the same as any other boy. In his early years, he was extremely intelligent, learning French, English, Italian and Latin. But, he went through natural changes just as everybody else does. I think that his first true heartbreak was with Aloysia Weber. He'd fallen in love with the young singer when he and his mother were staying in Mannheim on their way to Paris in 1778. Aloysia had three siblings: Sophie, Josepha and Constanze. Her mother, Cäcilia Weber, apparently possessed a good voice and a musical ear. Her father, Franz Fridolin Weber, was the uncle of the great transitional Classical/Romantic composer Carl Maria von Weber. Mozart fell head over heels for Aloysia, and also wrote a concert aria for her ("Alcandro, lo confesso", K. 294) to show off her skills. Later, Mozart and his mother left Mannheim for Paris. Whilst in the French capital, Mozart's mother died of tuberculosis. Leopold then commanded that he return to Salzburg, so he did. On his way back, sad and alone, he stopped off again in Mannheim, hopeful about rekindling his romance with Aloysia. But, Aloysia didn't love him anymore and so did the most horrible thing any ex-lover can do: ignore him.
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What a loss to English music! There are plenty more out there, James Hook. Thomas Chilcot and others. The land without music??
British music of this period is so unjustly neglected. If Linley had not departed this life so early, the situation may have been different.
@@baroqueman1 yeah
Weak cadenzas for this beautiful Concerto.
7 people have no soul