YOU made me buy one after your first review. I was lucky enough to find one (reverb version) very gently used locally on FBMP. Literally couldn’t find one anywhere else. None on reverb or eBay when I was looking. Grabbed it for $1800 💪🏼 😍
Completely agree with you guys ! I just bought one of the last SUHR BELLA REVERB available in Europe this year (head+cabinet), after owned a FENDER DELUXE 65. It's just an amazing amp, the best I've ever had. For sure it will come with me to my grave...sounds so pure, so.....I can't tell. Just listen.
I think this would have been my next amp. Great combination of sound, build quality, power, excellent reverb, somewhat portable and not crazy expensive for a 'boutique' piece. I can get on without a second channel or a tremolo but the lack of reverb on the new ones are a deal breaker for me.
@@s.murphy2368 I know, doesn’t make any sense. I hear and see players all the time asking for suggestions on an alternative to Fenders to get that beloved vintage BF era type tones. This is about as good as it gets if you don’t wanna pay Two Rock prices
I just learned about this amp today, drooled a bit, wrote it down on my list, and then learned at the end of the day that it's discontinued. Around and round in circles I go.
John, have you ever tried a PT15IR? Your love for this circuit, combined with your technological prowess, indicates to me that might be your perfect amp. The Clean channel of the PT15 is based on the Bella Circuit (no reverb and 6V6s, but still a wonderful clean channel). Channel's 2 and 3 are very "plexi-ish" - share an eq, but have independent gain/level. Great Master Volume, LOUD 15 watts. But the killer is a full Suhr RL/IR unit. You can run it with no speaker cab hooked up, or you can run it with BOTH the RL/IR direct to FOH PLUS a speaker cab, if you like. Add your favorite Reverb in the Effects Loop, and it's like the most flexible "Bella" you've ever seen. Head weighs under 25lbs. You can take just the head to gig.
My favorite amp I’ve ever owned. I have the head and cab, will never sell it. Sounds great even at very low volumes, takes pedals extremely well, and sounds beautiful all on its own…such a wide range of usable settings. Even the reverb on 10 is a really cool tone.
I traded my non-reverb Bella for a guitar in 2019. It had been part of a massive amp collection and never was used or powered up since then. I recently acquired it back and must admit I’d been missing out for several years. Definitely a great amp! 🤘🏼🎸
From Suhr website: Bella is powered by a duet of 6L6GC power tubes that deliver either 22 or 44 Watts of Class A/B power and is available in a head or combo format, ***with or without reverb.***
I recently ordered a Bella. No reverb, or wood grain trim sadly… Nevertheless, excited to finally own one. Though I do wish Suhr would bring back their older aesthetics especially with the Badgers and hedgehog rather than this new Black Out design.
@@SteveHubbardGuitar I wouldn’t be shocked about that. But then again, their entire lineup of amps have been blacked out. So who knows what the reason for it was.
I don't consider Suhr to be Boutique, and beyond the semantics of that, let's get down to the business of making amps. If you happen to create a popular and succesful amplifier, there are two things you can do. You can make it indefintely, or you can create a scarcity of it, to add value. The big thing these days is re-issues. Mesa Boogie is doing it through Gibson ownership, and Bogner may do it with some of his designs through B.A.D. ??? The thing is, that some designs are not exactly profitable, so building them does not add incentive, despite the popularity. So an easy way to build value in a design, is to create scarcity, or build mystique. A company that is not actually boutique has a tough time with the latter, but can easily manage the former. Ultimately, you are building a following for something that you can re-issue later, at a higher dollar amount ( special edition etc. ), and build at a lower cost, adding profitability. That's what I would do if I was a corporate machine....
So now see what you have done… I hust bought a Bella, its coming this friday. Was saving up for the handwired Deluxe reverb, so I hope this is gonna sound as good.
There was one of these for a good deal at my local shop and I was tempted. I got the Badcat Jetblack instead, which I love. Sometimes I wonder if I made the right choice, though. The Jerblack cost nearly $1K more.
Hey, thanks a lot! i don't need more G.A.S. but you did it! now i need to know about the non- reverb Bella ( reverb ones un-findable!!!) and what can i do?????? i need to add reverb to that amp IF I BITE THE BULLET AND BUY IT!!!! ( thanks a lot, man.....gotta spend the money now...ho hum
Damn, and I was considering buying a bella head to accompany my AN overdrive reverb. Such a great sounding amp and at it's price it's a steal too. A dumble-style amp that only costs slightly above $2,000 US? That amazing considering that a 64 custom deluxe now costs over $3k and the 57 twin amp costs almost $4k.
How would you compare this amps cleans, as a pedal platform, to the Lone Star Classic (which I once owned and have thought about repurchasing) or the Fillmore? I am using an Ampeg VT-22 right now, which gets that piano tone easily. Thus, I need something warmer and less mid-scooped.
The only amp I was ever happy plugin into without any Fx, was the Peavey Trippel X, with ultra-tone 4x12 cab Jensen speakers. Drove, my parents nuts. But it's not the same thing.
That is indeed an exquisite amp and reverb. Unfortunately it appears the world economy is dictating many to look for more budget friendly alternatives.
I’ve said this two times before and saying again until you notice: PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON EVH 5150 ICONIC 40W COMBO. I’m on the edge of buying this amp or not, but I can’t play it beforehand (the country I live in doesn’t have it in stock anywhere). I have to get it shipped to where I live. You’re pretty much the only player in here I can relate to when it comes to tone preference.
John Suhr himself stated he prefers the circuit of the Bella without the Reverb. Just use a good verb pedal from UAD, or Strymon and you’ll be good to go.
I understand that boutique amp builders prefer not to include on-board reverb, but for me as a guitarist who doesn’t need fancy reverbs, just a touch to liven things up, I always prefer that the amp has reverb, which frees up one more space on my already over-crowded pedalboard, to put something like an envelope filter or octave pedal.
@@jakollee I agree to that! Luckily though we’re in an age where minimalist players can use a small sized verb pedal to get some real estate on your board.
@@Varone26 yes, I actually have a TC electronic Hall of Fame mini (about as small as you can get!) that I sometimes bring with me when I’m not sure about a backline amp or rehearsal studio amp having on-board ‘verb, but I also bring along an extra patch cord and separate power supply (wall wart type) rather than switch it out with a pedal on my board. Still prefer for the amp to have reverb!
I can definitely see as digital/modelling becomes the pre-eminent choice for amplification that mass produced tube amps will mostly fade away. Sure Fender won't be effected in my lifetime but plenty of small builders already feel it & soon big name small builders will be feeling it. I think the Suhr Bella should disappear as is & be retooled as a more luxury item, a hand-wired made to measure sort of boutique amp. Does that defeat the purpose of the Bella being a budget Dumble? Kinda. But as it sits now you want a budget Dumble you're just going for modelers & if you're old school you'll get a pedal or save up for a Two Rock. That's just how I see the market with regards to amps. They're becoming a luxury and should probably start being a luxury product.
Ultimately the decision to keep making these amps is a business one. I mean you love the amp and didn't even buy one yourself (I believe you said it's your friends amp). Perhaps they just aren't moving enough units to justify it.
It might be different in your room, but on your videos, the Fender Pro Reverb is the best tone I've ever heard you get, that's a truly wonderful sound. Just sayin' . . .
Do you have the means to capture the Bella in ToneX? I’d love to buy a tone model of it from you, and I’m sure others would as well! I’d also love to see you attempt to recreate it in the Helix.
corporations have one problem with their business model and that's greed.... they find reasons to price gouge you even more instead of finding ways to give you better value without compromise...and in the end they are shooting themselves in the foot... yeah they get the quick gain, but long term... FAIL !!! an example of how a company takes good decisions for the consumer...Vola guitars decided to cut out middle men and is now selling direct and reduced their prices !!! so while Fender and Gibson are charging more than double vs prepandemic prices which is BS, Vola are trying to make things more affordable for their clients. I will never again pay the prices they are asking nowadays, and I see many videos online now about it..... The amp makers are charging insane amounts now too!!! Many can barely afford one good tube amp so the less people buy.... prices rise and the vicious circle continues....
In terms of doing a similar thing but at different price points, which would you say you preferred more the deluxe reverb, the Bella reverb or the traditional clean, and why? @johnnathancordy
“Please, Suhr. I want some more”
😂yesss 👏🏽
I didn’t know Oliver Twist played guitar…
Damn you beat me to it 😆
I came here just to make that comment. Well done. 😂
💀💀
YOU made me buy one after your first review. I was lucky enough to find one (reverb version) very gently used locally on FBMP. Literally couldn’t find one anywhere else. None on reverb or eBay when I was looking. Grabbed it for $1800 💪🏼 😍
That was a Steal, did it have the celestion or the EV speaker? all I have ever seen advertised has had Celestion.
@@ksharpe10 yeah too good to pass on. It has the V Type speaker
@@ksharpe10The EV was a swap that Jake did in like the 8th year ofr owning the amp. He's had it for 10 years
USD????????? if so , the one i ssee now is a steal....no reverb though...i wonder the difference...
An especially beautiful and melodious intro today!
Completely agree with you guys ! I just bought one of the last SUHR BELLA REVERB available in Europe this year (head+cabinet), after owned a FENDER DELUXE 65. It's just an amazing amp, the best I've ever had. For sure it will come with me to my grave...sounds so pure, so.....I can't tell. Just listen.
I think this would have been my next amp. Great combination of sound, build quality, power, excellent reverb, somewhat portable and not crazy expensive for a 'boutique' piece. I can get on without a second channel or a tremolo but the lack of reverb on the new ones are a deal breaker for me.
Bella Reverb should never be discontinued. It's too good!
@@s.murphy2368 I know, doesn’t make any sense. I hear and see players all the time asking for suggestions on an alternative to Fenders to get that beloved vintage BF era type tones. This is about as good as it gets if you don’t wanna pay Two Rock prices
I just learned about this amp today, drooled a bit, wrote it down on my list, and then learned at the end of the day that it's discontinued. Around and round in circles I go.
Only the reverb version. The non-reverb sounds JUST as good.
John, have you ever tried a PT15IR? Your love for this circuit, combined with your technological prowess, indicates to me that might be your perfect amp. The Clean channel of the PT15 is based on the Bella Circuit (no reverb and 6V6s, but still a wonderful clean channel). Channel's 2 and 3 are very "plexi-ish" - share an eq, but have independent gain/level. Great Master Volume, LOUD 15 watts. But the killer is a full Suhr RL/IR unit. You can run it with no speaker cab hooked up, or you can run it with BOTH the RL/IR direct to FOH PLUS a speaker cab, if you like. Add your favorite Reverb in the Effects Loop, and it's like the most flexible "Bella" you've ever seen. Head weighs under 25lbs. You can take just the head to gig.
I have mentioned this to John a few times. Finding one over there to even try is needle in haystack. And a big spend to just order one unseen
@@christopherjbutler Yeah, I get it, probably a tough find in the UK, but I would certainly like to see John's reaction/demo of one.
My favorite amp I’ve ever owned. I have the head and cab, will never sell it. Sounds great even at very low volumes, takes pedals extremely well, and sounds beautiful all on its own…such a wide range of usable settings. Even the reverb on 10 is a really cool tone.
I traded my non-reverb Bella for a guitar in 2019. It had been part of a massive amp collection and never was used or powered up since then. I recently acquired it back and must admit I’d been missing out for several years. Definitely a great amp! 🤘🏼🎸
From Suhr website: Bella is powered by a duet of 6L6GC power tubes that deliver either 22 or 44 Watts of Class A/B power and is available in a head or combo format, ***with or without reverb.***
With the price increases of Fender amps, might as well drop a couple more hundred and grab one of these.
Yes Suhr - Please don’t kill the Bella reverb, and also please continue to offer the cool woodgrain trim option!
I recently ordered a Bella. No reverb, or wood grain trim sadly…
Nevertheless, excited to finally own one. Though I do wish Suhr would bring back their older aesthetics especially with the Badgers and hedgehog rather than this new Black Out design.
@@Varone26I thought I read somewhere that they had issues with the wood coming loose. Amp heats up the glue holding it there. Could be wrong.
@@SteveHubbardGuitar I wouldn’t be shocked about that. But then again, their entire lineup of amps have been blacked out. So who knows what the reason for it was.
@ It matches our black jeans
As said, the amp is really incredible. Using (and gigging) a reverb head for over a year.
Sounds great John ;)
Thanks JAKE for loaning JOHN such GREAT GEAR!!!!
I don't consider Suhr to be Boutique, and beyond the semantics of that, let's get down to the business of making amps. If you happen to create a popular and succesful amplifier, there are two things you can do. You can make it indefintely, or you can create a scarcity of it, to add value. The big thing these days is re-issues. Mesa Boogie is doing it through Gibson ownership, and Bogner may do it with some of his designs through B.A.D. ??? The thing is, that some designs are not exactly profitable, so building them does not add incentive, despite the popularity. So an easy way to build value in a design, is to create scarcity, or build mystique. A company that is not actually boutique has a tough time with the latter, but can easily manage the former. Ultimately, you are building a following for something that you can re-issue later, at a higher dollar amount ( special edition etc. ), and build at a lower cost, adding profitability. That's what I would do if I was a corporate machine....
So now see what you have done… I hust bought a Bella, its coming this friday. Was saving up for the handwired Deluxe reverb, so I hope this is gonna sound as good.
I love getting back into playing electric guitar and this is the amp I want and they discontinued it, wonderful timing by me
IKR! It's like I truly want one now!
Please Suhr can I have some more…
There was one of these for a good deal at my local shop and I was tempted. I got the Badcat Jetblack instead, which I love. Sometimes I wonder if I made the right choice, though. The Jerblack cost nearly $1K more.
Hey, thanks a lot! i don't need more G.A.S. but you did it! now i need to know about the non- reverb Bella ( reverb ones un-findable!!!) and what can i do?????? i need to add reverb to that amp IF I BITE THE BULLET AND BUY IT!!!! ( thanks a lot, man.....gotta spend the money now...ho hum
This is a bummer to hear! I was sort of saving up to maybe buy one of these!
@@jakollee yeah, you can’t even find them on Reverb or eBay right now. I got lucky and found one locally on FBMP
You want the non reverb model the amp circuit to me sounds better. These models are not discontinued but good luck finding one.
Agreed the Bella has the best amp reverb I have heard.
Dont worry. John S. doesn"t just stop making great things without offering something that's even better. Send him a message, he is very responsive.
Damn, and I was considering buying a bella head to accompany my AN overdrive reverb. Such a great sounding amp and at it's price it's a steal too. A dumble-style amp that only costs slightly above $2,000 US? That amazing considering that a 64 custom deluxe now costs over $3k and the 57 twin amp costs almost $4k.
How would you compare this amps cleans, as a pedal platform, to the Lone Star Classic (which I once owned and have thought about repurchasing) or the Fillmore? I am using an Ampeg VT-22 right now, which gets that piano tone easily. Thus, I need something warmer and less mid-scooped.
Glad I got mine last year
It's just the reverb version that's discontinued. The non reverb is NOT discontinued.
The only amp I was ever happy plugin into without any Fx, was the Peavey Trippel X, with ultra-tone 4x12 cab Jensen speakers. Drove, my parents nuts.
But it's not the same thing.
PLEASE keep making the BR!
Tones were great
That is indeed an exquisite amp and reverb. Unfortunately it appears the world economy is dictating many to look for more budget friendly alternatives.
I would call it a Deluxe REverb on Steroids. Really nice Amp. I still like the HeadFirst Head you have, it sounded Glorious!!!
I’ve said this two times before and saying again until you notice:
PLEASE DO A VIDEO ON EVH 5150 ICONIC 40W COMBO.
I’m on the edge of buying this amp or not, but I can’t play it beforehand (the country I live in doesn’t have it in stock anywhere). I have to get it shipped to where I live. You’re pretty much the only player in here I can relate to when it comes to tone preference.
Interestingly enough, Suhr's website only sites the "Jim Kelley" Amp was discontinued. Maybe their site hasn't been updated ?
this or your two rock classic sig?
John Suhr himself stated he prefers the circuit of the Bella without the Reverb. Just use a good verb pedal from UAD, or Strymon and you’ll be good to go.
I understand that boutique amp builders prefer not to include on-board reverb, but for me as a guitarist who doesn’t need fancy reverbs, just a touch to liven things up, I always prefer that the amp has reverb, which frees up one more space on my already over-crowded pedalboard, to put something like an envelope filter or octave pedal.
@@jakollee I agree to that! Luckily though we’re in an age where minimalist players can use a small sized verb pedal to get some real estate on your board.
@@Varone26 yes, I actually have a TC electronic Hall of Fame mini (about as small as you can get!) that I sometimes bring with me when I’m not sure about a backline amp or rehearsal studio amp having on-board ‘verb, but I also bring along an extra patch cord and separate power supply (wall wart type) rather than switch it out with a pedal on my board. Still prefer for the amp to have reverb!
I can definitely see as digital/modelling becomes the pre-eminent choice for amplification that mass produced tube amps will mostly fade away. Sure Fender won't be effected in my lifetime but plenty of small builders already feel it & soon big name small builders will be feeling it. I think the Suhr Bella should disappear as is & be retooled as a more luxury item, a hand-wired made to measure sort of boutique amp. Does that defeat the purpose of the Bella being a budget Dumble? Kinda. But as it sits now you want a budget Dumble you're just going for modelers & if you're old school you'll get a pedal or save up for a Two Rock. That's just how I see the market with regards to amps. They're becoming a luxury and should probably start being a luxury product.
i just don't agree with the worship mentality...all this Dumbell and Matches ( dumble/matchless)..just..no. the Bella is not a budget amp
Where can I buy this Suhr Bella capture amplifier for Tonex One?
Beautiful playing John. Is there a Fractal or Tonex model of this amp ? ;)
Sounds really similar to epiphone blues custom 30 for those on a budget, I had one it sounds too similar
Any idea why they are killing it? Newer version? Obviously they’re sold out every time they build a batch.
If I wanted to emulate this amp in my helix.What would you suggest?
drugs
Ultimately the decision to keep making these amps is a business one. I mean you love the amp and didn't even buy one yourself (I believe you said it's your friends amp).
Perhaps they just aren't moving enough units to justify it.
If the Bella isn’t selling, there’s no reason to continue building them. That’d be a bad business decision.
Odd that the Bella reverb isn't selling but they are gonna keep making the non reverb bella. I would think the reverb would sell equally as well?
@@christopherjbutler can we add one.....a reverb tank after the fact??
It might be different in your room, but on your videos, the Fender Pro Reverb is the best tone I've ever heard you get, that's a truly wonderful sound. Just sayin' . . .
Do you have the means to capture the Bella in ToneX? I’d love to buy a tone model of it from you, and I’m sure others would as well!
I’d also love to see you attempt to recreate it in the Helix.
corporations have one problem with their business model and that's greed.... they find reasons to price gouge you even more instead of finding ways to give you better value without compromise...and in the end they are shooting themselves in the foot... yeah they get the quick gain, but long term... FAIL !!! an example of how a company takes good decisions for the consumer...Vola guitars decided to cut out middle men and is now selling direct and reduced their prices !!! so while Fender and Gibson are charging more than double vs prepandemic prices which is BS, Vola are trying to make things more affordable for their clients. I will never again pay the prices they are asking nowadays, and I see many videos online now about it.....
The amp makers are charging insane amounts now too!!! Many can barely afford one good tube amp so the less people buy.... prices rise and the vicious circle continues....
In terms of doing a similar thing but at different price points, which would you say you preferred more the deluxe reverb, the Bella reverb or the traditional clean, and why? @johnnathancordy