Bought this after watching your video, and used it for the first time today.. It a totally new way to train with the eccentric mode that really gets a great workout. Definitively worth the money.
I will never ever buy a single device that is subscription locked so this is a dream. There's been a few devices I was very interested in, but the subscription is an instant NO.
for anyone else wondering it's $2100 for the unit without accessories and it goes up to $5022 if you want a pair of them with all the accessories if I had the money to go for something like this I'd definitely support the company without a subscription based model and with openness towards universal accessories (shown by using the simple carabiner). The only disappointing/unforgivable thing is the lack of android support, but hopefully that's actually on its way.
Well tbf anyone getting this likely uses an iphone. That crowd is more willing to drop 2K on something like while the rest of us are highly sceptical with pricing like this
That seems reasonably priced. I paid around that much for my rep ares, rack, and accessories. Stuff like this is the future for sure. I personally would wait till this stuff gets more reliable. With my rep ares if something breaks it's a cable and a pully which are cheap fixes...something breaks on this it's a whole new $2000 machine.
I have a pair and they’re some of my favorite pieces of kit. Unfortunately the cost will likely keep a lot of people away, I know I was hesitant having never used it before but after spending a few months with them I can see the value prop with everything included. Have been using these more than my selectorized lat pull down/adjustable cable column.
how is it for lat pull down? Was thinking of getting Athena + lat pull down for my PR5000 but don't think the lat pull down will fit in my 96" garage. This seems like it could be a good option
This machine is perfect for me. I used to be a personal trainer and I want to start doing it again on weekends, traveling to clients homes. This would be soooo much easier than lugging around dumbbells and bands
@11:06 I've tried the ARX half a dozen times until the business that used it went out of business because it is just such an expensive machine. The guy that purchased it has truly become the strongest man I know and having tried it just blew my mind on how it can create that load... I see myself purchasing them just on that recommendation of the similarity to an ARX, but this thing looks like it'll fill so many voids in home gyms or when you're traveling. Thanks for the great content
ARX accommodates every inch of leverage-advantage. The full-strength one can exhibit at near extension of a fresh ARX negative leg press rep is >1,000 lbs for almost anyone. People don't know what sustained full effort is until they've tried ARX.
@@lazur1 Just to be clear, I wasn't knocking ARX for the ability to train folks. It's an amazing system... The pricing model doesn't work for the common consumer. A regular r person isn't going to afford to have one in their home gym and it's not a straightforward as it seems to be able to run a gym and be truly profitable on ARX. Sure people are doing it but at $100 a session just to keep the lights on It's unaffordable or only for folks with deep pockets. The product mentioned in the video at $2,000 has a much more manageable price as an ex gym owner, I could manage to make that worthwhile. For most clients being able to change that strength curve is going to create hell of adaption for the muscles. Not ARX adaption but a strong stimulus. If I were still running a gym I could literally pay an employee an extra $10,000 a year versus having the sunk cost of paying for a specialty piece of equipment. Honestly with the overhead of a place like 24 hour fitness or planet fitness they could afford to bring ARX in because they have the kind of overhead that would make sense. From a training perspective, the first time I tried ARX, I had such a massive energy output It rivaled Any workout I'd done in the past. I felt so bad. I checked my blood sugar and I took a glucose tablet and I'm not diabetic lol. I am the biggest ARX fanboy and I'm just saying the money don't work for the common person. But if you added that device above in the video plus a kbox for eccentric training, you're going to produce amazing strong athletes at a fraction of the cost.
I don't comment on many videos but this was very informative and the most innovative piece of equipment reviewed for home gym owners. I have already added to the cart for my home gym! TKs Coop
Amazing product but its price is insane. If it were less than a 1000 perhaps an argument could be made but 2100 is more than most people's emtire home gyms and more than most independent functional trainers.
Yeah, between Costco savings on the FTX, 90lb pair of power blocks, bells of steel bench and trap bar, Amazon power rack and cheap plates/olympic bar on Facebook marketplace, my home gym is still cheaper than buying a pair of these and I can still buy a leg press/hack squat machine and still be under the price of these.
ISSUE is start up company w terrible warranty. U blessed w lots of space either extra rooms or basement. this product is for people living tight in NYC, San Fran small spaces that lost a ton per square foot. they r not housing functional trainers. @@cv2633
Others had a different take than I. I see great value in saving floor space. MY ISSUE is limited warranty for only one year- if the product was warrantied for 3 to 4 years ( steel is warrantied way longer I see more value). w this u can spend 5k buying a set and if it BREAKS after just 13 months its a big loss of cash. @@chrisjefferis1930
Finally a company understand what we need a cable system in a garage gym that can attach to a rack. Great job. I have been waiting for this product in a few years now. I have seen a few simular but they did not do the job. Ancor, vetruvian, maxfit.....and so on👌👌👌👌👌👏👏👏👏👏❤❤️
@@FEV369 Just get a complete homegym with cables like the monster G6, it costs only as much as a single voltra but it replaces a powerrack with pullup and accessories like a dip station + a dual adjustable pulley
These are pricey for sure but still are amazing/gamechanging tech. 'Free' content idea: I'd love to see a homegym set up with a pair of these as a core. Outside of traditional deadlifts and maybe squats, 400lbs of resistance from a pair is more than enough for the majority of lifters and for people who don't/can't have a traditional home gym setup with mats/power rack/barbell. The maneuverability of these make them way more versatile than a tonal style set up.
So excited for the review! One of the coolest products I have seen in a while and it totally makes sense that engineers from DJI made something like this.
Last thought; an idea might be for them to offer a sturdy vest with attachment (like a weight vest but no weights needed) so that with something to elevate like 2 chairs you could use this for the equivalent of "weighted pushups" similar to bench press when you travel, or to possibly replace any need for barbells at all even at home, if one likes using this instead of live weights
Very interesting product and loved the review. Would be nice to see what the app features are like can you build a workout within the app that way you don't have to spend too much time changing the load on the screen. Also, do we know how long the battery will last and cost to swap it etc? Is the screen prone to cracking if you drop an accessory on it? Is this something you would have to be careful of when using it?
$2100. I didn’t hear the price mentioned ONCE. - Sliding rack mount, $249 - Adaptive rack mount, $159 - Fixed rack mount, $99 - Bar mount, $59 - Travel platform, $199 - Travel suitcase, $349 Wish it wasn't battery powered, but very cool. Battery specs: - 1700 mah - 140 W charging max Plus, I don't trust the no subscription promise. Companies go back on this every second of the day, then act as if they are doing us all a favor.
I think it's fairly priced, but want to see the reliability before giving up my Rep Ares. If you read their website the amount of resistance you use greatly impacts its battery life which makes sense. They only tested it between 40-100 lbs....which makes me think using it at 200 lbs very long is a stretch. When this becomes reliable technology I'll jump onboard. Makes a lot more sense than a cross functional trainer and easier to move and use when traveling.
@@trollzone1It's not about affording it. It's the fact that for the same price as this full system you can build a premium conventional gym that you will never outgrow and will last you the rest of your life, while this thing will likely be in the landfill within 10 years. Not a good investment. Unless, I suppose, you can't afford a house with space for a real gym.
I think I'd stick with a Unitree Pump. It only goes up to 44lbs of resistance, but they're only ~$300 USD. I bought a couple when they first launched and they served me very well until I got my Rep rack with Athena. This has better control of features, but that price tag is a huge limiter.
I totally agree about the unitree pump. The other thing that I am struggling with is I don’t own a rack (no room for one). So the mounting options for this device seems to be a bit limiting. The unitrees can mount to just about anything including doors, and the fact that you can sync several of them together with all of the features that Coop demonstrates in this video seems to be a better value. I just checked, and the unitree’s are going for around $200 now, getting 6 of them (240lb max) would cost 1/2 of this device with what I think is a ton more mounting flexibility. I guess a downside for the unitree would be the battery life. However, for me, it’s not that big of a deal to simply charge them every two or three workout sessions.
Subscription models ensure the company continues to support and improve which adds to the products longevity. People that are saying they’d rather pay more now than pay less and use a subscription service for continued support and improvement don’t truly understand how products work. This is why Tonal and other companies aren’t making a “new” version every year to try and make you want to upgrade. If you buy something and you want the product to improve and not be a forgotten paperweight after 5 years you want the company to have a reason to continue to invest which is why I prefer subscription models. This is like the age old argument “I never finance, if I can’t use cash I don’t want it”. This is because people don’t understand the benefits of financing the same way they make fun of people who lease cars. Continue to educate yourself on the evolution of business so you don’t fall behind and lose out in the end.
Ive been waiting for magnetic resistance training devices where you can dial in the weight precisely but this is as close to that as probably safer. awesome tech
When tonal first came out I was asking if I could move this in a vanlife type situation. They said no. This is gold just for the mobility of it all! So excited!
Buy one rack pillar and add a drawbar to fit your 2" towing receiver and store on a roof rack when not in use? Or mount a single rack pillar cut down inside of van? Or maybe they make a wall mount? Good luck!
Great idea but there is few similar products for fraction of price. The only reason you would buy one of resistance pulleys is to avoid paying whole price of the standalone cable station (that is around 2.5k for 100kg stack). I know the size also matters but then if you can fit a power cage then it's also cheaper to get power cage with cable pulleys (yes they build them). Don't get me wrong, if that device would be for 20% of current value I would for sure consider getting 2 for my power cage. 🤞 they will lower the cost by removing the screen and battery just to have a pure mechanical device that is affordable.
It be cool if they made a kit to make it a portable row machine, they could possibly turn into a ski erg sooner with a software update, assuming you'll mount it to a rack/wall you'd only need a new cable attachment
Couldn't wait to see your review of this. I don't think this is the answer for cable machines, but certainly is moving innovation forward in the home gym space. Too bad the pricing. If it was $2500/pair, I would jump all over this. Also. I wish these companies would stop with this subscription model. It's clouding the actual cost of the items.
If you have two of them, and attach a barbell, would you be able to get 400 pounds of resistance total? 200 per each side? Or is there a reason where the weight distribution would be different and not actually 400? If so this could be great for heavier deadlifts, squats, bench, etc
The heavy negatives is an exciting prospect. For curls the only thing similar using standard cables is cheating the weight up with a bit of leg power then strict form on the eccentric.
I could see this in retirement homes. If people can attach a “rack”/frame to a wall it would easily allow older folks to have a functional trainer in their room.
I truley think this product or one similar will be the next essential versatile option same as a dumbell/barbell/cable. There are just too many applications for this. One thing I hope they program would be the inverse of band tension, replicating what something like Prime equipment can accomplish.
Changing the resistance on the return ... being able to mix it however you want is a game changer. And in time I would expect putting in an actual resistance curve, which would be greater still (unless it already does that). I would say, within a few years there will be all kinds of this device, at various prices.
*For anyone who's thinking of getting two units to do bilateral movements* (like dead lifts and bench presses). I just want you to understand that the experience may not be what you expect. Because it's two motors that aren't synced, they create this really unstable and jerky movement when attached to the same bar. Take a look at 10:30 in the video to see what I mean. In my opinion, these are really cool but don't bother getting two. Just get one and use it for exercises where 200lb is enough weight. I should say I haven't tried these but I've tried another similar product (made in Italy that I forgot the name of)
In the clip @ 10:30 he is not using two devices. There are two cables connected to each end of the bar to the same device. That configuration will be unstable. But you do make a good point otherwise and it would be nice to see how 2 separate devices would feel when used together.
Buying two is the only thing that makes sense. Most people would want these to mimic a functional trainer. How you gonna do cable flys with only one of these?
Being able to change the concentric and eccentric weights is a game changer, but I can't justify that price. I'll be interested to see how low the price can eventually go.
Had been waiting on that review for some time! Once they come out with a 400lbs V2, it'll be an absolute must-have. Still gonna probably grab a pair of 1s as is.
Great review. Coop how did you anchor the black 3x3 upright that you attached the Beyond Power Voltra to? Is it attached to the floor or table? Being able to have a single 3x3 upright you could then use for dips, resistance work from this or using a leg roller for split squats seems really useful
This is an amazing machine, and basically the idea I have had in my head for a long time. The problem is the price tag, this is a $300-$400 machine at scale. You are 100% paying for being the innovation leader. $2k is mental, I don't need magnesium alloy body, I don't need an electrically actuated mounting mechanism, I just need a solid case that contains a field operated motor with batteries and some PID control for resistance. I'll wait for the $350 mass made Chinese version, hopefully not too far away, as I have been waiting for years.
Is that an old Baldwin Denim hat? I have one of those, and it's been a long time since I've seen someone else with one. I don't even think you can get them anymore, because I don't think Baldwin Denim exists anymore.
Wow these are expensive! 😵. Super sick product. I was thinking I could mount two off my 6’ storage rack to get a wider distance for flys. Ha, at $4200 for two I may hold off for now 😂. Love the product though. Thanks coop!
Really interested in the negative being heavier, as is supposed to be really good for development. I hope these turn up in gyms, as I do not want to pay a few grand for one.
Hey Coop! Would you do a review on the body solid pro weight assist dip chin up machine? Ive lost 56 lbs so far using an all in one gym plus Nordictrack select weight dumbbells, Rep Ez curl bar, Rep ab3000 2.0 bench. I am Interested in a dip station but still to heavy to do all of my body weight for dips or chin ups. I saw this machine online and thought it would be great for building up to full body weight exercises. Thanks for all the great content! Jim
These new electrical weight systems are truly awesome. Fantastic devices. Very female and beginner friendly. Very clean, no mess, small space,... These are best for penthouse weight rooms, hotel gyms, office building gyms,..... For the home, I prefer bars with chalk and blood, combined with rusty steel noisy plates, smash a finger get pissed off and then hit a new PR.
I can totally envision people putting this in the van life builds. Personally i would have it atach to the outside of the van or when you open the door it attached to the inside(not on the door)
The features and convenience are pretty cool. Hiwever wish they didnt include the touch screen and it was just a few buttons like on a remote. They could have a movile app with all the extra tweaking and features instead.
DJI engineers have done some amazing things. They recently revolutionized the 3D printing home market with Bambu Labs. Real innovation and great quality, I feel like DJI was the start of China getting in the game for high end electronics.
What is the pull chord made of? The chord material looks like woven nylon or poly. This would be the most likely part of product to fail. If so, how expensive would a new pull chord cost and would it be a DIY replacement?
I'm very curious about electronic resistance trainers. But I have yet to see one that makes sense. The Voltra is $2,500 for 200 lbs of resistance -- not a good deal. They show people hooking 2 of these to a power rack, which gets you 400 lbs, but costs $5,000!! Note that the mounts are extra, at least $250. Also, the "cable" is string that looks like it would be worn out in weeks, and costs $100 to replace. The battery is $400 ($800 for a pair) to replace. Altogether, looks like it would cost around $3,000 over the next couple of years to maintain one, or $6,000 to maintain two of them.
Very impressive product and as always, great review. Still. With how much gym cost has dropped, at least in my area, would it be cheaper to go to a gym?!
I'd never get this for rdls, the rom is already limited by the plates being too big and this seems to start even higher, surely you aim to increase flexibility as much as possible in your hamstrings.
i will buy one for my 3 week safari trip in east africa this is a game changer...there are no gyms out in the masai mara and i was going to rely on bodyweight exercises
All talking about price of that thing, but none of you have commented on his incredibly well groomed moustache… let’s take a moment to appreciate that marvel 👨🏻🎉
@@GarageGymReviews review it soon. This is one of the most intriguing products I've seen. It basically make my rep ares seem obsolete...assuming it's reliable and give the same continuous force. I know some devices like this don't.
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Bought this after watching your video, and used it for the first time today.. It a totally new way to train with the eccentric mode that really gets a great workout. Definitively worth the money.
I will never ever buy a single device that is subscription locked so this is a dream. There's been a few devices I was very interested in, but the subscription is an instant NO.
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this. People need to fight this to stop companies from subscription leak.
I think even the fact that you have to get an app to use it is bad enough and would stop me buying it.
Don’t need a subscription for a 300 dollar cable machine, and mine has max capacity of 500lbs lol.
whats your whoop username?
for anyone else wondering it's $2100 for the unit without accessories
and it goes up to $5022 if you want a pair of them with all the accessories
if I had the money to go for something like this I'd definitely support the company without a subscription based model and with openness towards universal accessories (shown by using the simple carabiner). The only disappointing/unforgivable thing is the lack of android support, but hopefully that's actually on its way.
Well tbf anyone getting this likely uses an iphone. That crowd is more willing to drop 2K on something like while the rest of us are highly sceptical with pricing like this
@@YunisRajab That's not true, maybe true in the US but outside the US not at all.
@@YunisRajab what a dumb comment.
That seems reasonably priced. I paid around that much for my rep ares, rack, and accessories. Stuff like this is the future for sure. I personally would wait till this stuff gets more reliable. With my rep ares if something breaks it's a cable and a pully which are cheap fixes...something breaks on this it's a whole new $2000 machine.
If its the same cats who did DJI they for sure will add Android support, as its not something foreign to them.
I have a pair and they’re some of my favorite pieces of kit. Unfortunately the cost will likely keep a lot of people away, I know I was hesitant having never used it before but after spending a few months with them I can see the value prop with everything included. Have been using these more than my selectorized lat pull down/adjustable cable column.
Same. Cost will go down over time. Weight will go up. This is just the start. - Coop
Dang Brandon, well that's quite a testimonial!
Looking forward to your review as well.
how is it for lat pull down? Was thinking of getting Athena + lat pull down for my PR5000 but don't think the lat pull down will fit in my 96" garage. This seems like it could be a good option
I heard about them from your channel. Waiting till I recover from a surgery to get at least one. A pair would be pretty sweet too though.
This machine is perfect for me. I used to be a personal trainer and I want to start doing it again on weekends, traveling to clients homes. This would be soooo much easier than lugging around dumbbells and bands
"Open the pod bay doors, Hal."
"I'm sorry, Coop. I'm afraid I can't do that."
@11:06 I've tried the ARX half a dozen times until the business that used it went out of business because it is just such an expensive machine. The guy that purchased it has truly become the strongest man I know and having tried it just blew my mind on how it can create that load...
I see myself purchasing them just on that recommendation of the similarity to an ARX, but this thing looks like it'll fill so many voids in home gyms or when you're traveling. Thanks for the great content
ARX accommodates every inch of leverage-advantage. The full-strength one can exhibit at near extension of a fresh ARX negative leg press rep is >1,000 lbs for almost anyone. People don't know what sustained full effort is until they've tried ARX.
@@lazur1 Just to be clear, I wasn't knocking ARX for the ability to train folks. It's an amazing system... The pricing model doesn't work for the common consumer. A regular r person isn't going to afford to have one in their home gym and it's not a straightforward as it seems to be able to run a gym and be truly profitable on ARX. Sure people are doing it but at $100 a session just to keep the lights on It's unaffordable or only for folks with deep pockets.
The product mentioned in the video at $2,000 has a much more manageable price as an ex gym owner, I could manage to make that worthwhile. For most clients being able to change that strength curve is going to create hell of adaption for the muscles. Not ARX adaption but a strong stimulus.
If I were still running a gym I could literally pay an employee an extra $10,000 a year versus having the sunk cost of paying for a specialty piece of equipment.
Honestly with the overhead of a place like 24 hour fitness or planet fitness they could afford to bring ARX in because they have the kind of overhead that would make sense.
From a training perspective, the first time I tried ARX, I had such a massive energy output It rivaled Any workout I'd done in the past. I felt so bad. I checked my blood sugar and I took a glucose tablet and I'm not diabetic lol. I am the biggest ARX fanboy and I'm just saying the money don't work for the common person.
But if you added that device above in the video plus a kbox for eccentric training, you're going to produce amazing strong athletes at a fraction of the cost.
I don't comment on many videos but this was very informative and the most innovative piece of equipment reviewed for home gym owners. I have already added to the cart for my home gym! TKs Coop
This is one of the coolest innovations in gym technology in my lifetime.
Amazing product but its price is insane. If it were less than a 1000 perhaps an argument could be made but 2100 is more than most people's emtire home gyms and more than most independent functional trainers.
Yeah, between Costco savings on the FTX, 90lb pair of power blocks, bells of steel bench and trap bar, Amazon power rack and cheap plates/olympic bar on Facebook marketplace, my home gym is still cheaper than buying a pair of these and I can still buy a leg press/hack squat machine and still be under the price of these.
It's 5000+ for the set. Unless you are only going to use one, which makes zero sense.
ISSUE is start up company w terrible warranty. U blessed w lots of space either extra rooms or basement. this product is for people living tight in NYC, San Fran small spaces that lost a ton per square foot. they r not housing functional trainers. @@cv2633
@@chrisjefferis1930 and the required bolted-down rack also takes up floor space and money
Others had a different take than I. I see great value in saving floor space. MY ISSUE is limited warranty for only one year- if the product was warrantied for 3 to 4 years ( steel is warrantied way longer I see more value). w this u can spend 5k buying a set and if it BREAKS after just 13 months its a big loss of cash. @@chrisjefferis1930
Finally a company understand what we need a cable system in a garage gym that can attach to a rack. Great job. I have been waiting for this product in a few years now. I have seen a few simular but they did not do the job. Ancor, vetruvian, maxfit.....and so on👌👌👌👌👌👏👏👏👏👏❤❤️
Just get a cable machine... it's a rack with cables attached, oh and it costs less and you can do more with it.
@@FEV369
Just get a complete homegym with cables like the monster G6, it costs only as much as a single voltra but it replaces a powerrack with pullup and accessories like a dip station + a dual adjustable pulley
1:56 "Sick looks and a really nice package", I thought you were talking about me for a sec 🤣
These are pricey for sure but still are amazing/gamechanging tech.
'Free' content idea: I'd love to see a homegym set up with a pair of these as a core. Outside of traditional deadlifts and maybe squats, 400lbs of resistance from a pair is more than enough for the majority of lifters and for people who don't/can't have a traditional home gym setup with mats/power rack/barbell. The maneuverability of these make them way more versatile than a tonal style set up.
How long will it last, though? I have some plates we picked up used on the 70s. Use them all the time.
So excited for the review! One of the coolest products I have seen in a while and it totally makes sense that engineers from DJI made something like this.
Last thought; an idea might be for them to offer a sturdy vest with attachment (like a weight vest but no weights needed) so that with something to elevate like 2 chairs you could use this for the equivalent of "weighted pushups" similar to bench press when you travel, or to possibly replace any need for barbells at all even at home, if one likes using this instead of live weights
@mikethestockimpaler3049 you could do this currently by attachment this unit to the chain attachment on a Kensui EZ vest.
I love the idea, but I REALLY wish it had a dial to select the weight. Analog controls are better in the gym imo.
A grabbed 2 Unitree Pumps for under $350 total, on sale. Not nearly as heavy duty as this, but is has door anchors. I'm really enjoying them.
Very interesting product and loved the review. Would be nice to see what the app features are like can you build a workout within the app that way you don't have to spend too much time changing the load on the screen. Also, do we know how long the battery will last and cost to swap it etc? Is the screen prone to cracking if you drop an accessory on it? Is this something you would have to be careful of when using it?
Very cool. I love my Tonal because it takes up so little space, but if you have a rack, this makes a lot of sense.
$2100. I didn’t hear the price mentioned ONCE.
- Sliding rack mount, $249
- Adaptive rack mount, $159
- Fixed rack mount, $99
- Bar mount, $59
- Travel platform, $199
- Travel suitcase, $349
Wish it wasn't battery powered, but very cool.
Battery specs:
- 1700 mah
- 140 W charging max
Plus, I don't trust the no subscription promise. Companies go back on this every second of the day, then act as if they are doing us all a favor.
It's not connected (AFAIK) so it's hard for them to brick it - you'd need to install an update without reading the small print
I think it's fairly priced, but want to see the reliability before giving up my Rep Ares. If you read their website the amount of resistance you use greatly impacts its battery life which makes sense. They only tested it between 40-100 lbs....which makes me think using it at 200 lbs very long is a stretch. When this becomes reliable technology I'll jump onboard. Makes a lot more sense than a cross functional trainer and easier to move and use when traveling.
@@trollzone1 you think dropping 5200 on a pair of them is fair pricing? 🤡
@@jishani1not being able to afford it makes you a 🤡
@@trollzone1It's not about affording it. It's the fact that for the same price as this full system you can build a premium conventional gym that you will never outgrow and will last you the rest of your life, while this thing will likely be in the landfill within 10 years. Not a good investment. Unless, I suppose, you can't afford a house with space for a real gym.
I think I'd stick with a Unitree Pump. It only goes up to 44lbs of resistance, but they're only ~$300 USD. I bought a couple when they first launched and they served me very well until I got my Rep rack with Athena.
This has better control of features, but that price tag is a huge limiter.
I totally agree about the unitree pump. The other thing that I am struggling with is I don’t own a rack (no room for one). So the mounting options for this device seems to be a bit limiting. The unitrees can mount to just about anything including doors, and the fact that you can sync several of them together with all of the features that Coop demonstrates in this video seems to be a better value. I just checked, and the unitree’s are going for around $200 now, getting 6 of them (240lb max) would cost 1/2 of this device with what I think is a ton more mounting flexibility. I guess a downside for the unitree would be the battery life. However, for me, it’s not that big of a deal to simply charge them every two or three workout sessions.
The fixed mounts that he didn’t show could screw into just about anything that can take the load
Feel the same way. This thing is great for people looking to add cable flys to their rack
Subscription models ensure the company continues to support and improve which adds to the products longevity. People that are saying they’d rather pay more now than pay less and use a subscription service for continued support and improvement don’t truly understand how products work. This is why Tonal and other companies aren’t making a “new” version every year to try and make you want to upgrade. If you buy something and you want the product to improve and not be a forgotten paperweight after 5 years you want the company to have a reason to continue to invest which is why I prefer subscription models. This is like the age old argument “I never finance, if I can’t use cash I don’t want it”. This is because people don’t understand the benefits of financing the same way they make fun of people who lease cars. Continue to educate yourself on the evolution of business so you don’t fall behind and lose out in the end.
Ive been waiting for magnetic resistance training devices where you can dial in the weight precisely but this is as close to that as probably safer. awesome tech
What about the smart trainer from Maiak? Goes up to 220 lbs I believe and it mounts on squat racks.
Don't believe it costs half your house either....
I saw that recently. But as far as I can tell, the Maiak machine is not available for sale yet.
This thing would be perfect for the space station
When tonal first came out I was asking if I could move this in a vanlife type situation. They said no. This is gold just for the mobility of it all! So excited!
Buy one rack pillar and add a drawbar to fit your 2" towing receiver and store on a roof rack when not in use?
Or mount a single rack pillar cut down inside of van?
Or maybe they make a wall mount?
Good luck!
My first thought watching those deadlifts.. that bar is eventually going through that screen when you let go :D
How long does the battery last with regular usage and the price of replacing it?
Great idea but there is few similar products for fraction of price. The only reason you would buy one of resistance pulleys is to avoid paying whole price of the standalone cable station (that is around 2.5k for 100kg stack). I know the size also matters but then if you can fit a power cage then it's also cheaper to get power cage with cable pulleys (yes they build them). Don't get me wrong, if that device would be for 20% of current value I would for sure consider getting 2 for my power cage. 🤞 they will lower the cost by removing the screen and battery just to have a pure mechanical device that is affordable.
You should review the Unitree pump
It be cool if they made a kit to make it a portable row machine, they could possibly turn into a ski erg sooner with a software update, assuming you'll mount it to a rack/wall you'd only need a new cable attachment
The ability to change loads like that is HUGE !
This would be the best rehabilitation tool .
Couldn't wait to see your review of this. I don't think this is the answer for cable machines, but certainly is moving innovation forward in the home gym space. Too bad the pricing. If it was $2500/pair, I would jump all over this. Also. I wish these companies would stop with this subscription model. It's clouding the actual cost of the items.
If you have two of them, and attach a barbell, would you be able to get 400 pounds of resistance total? 200 per each side? Or is there a reason where the weight distribution would be different and not actually 400? If so this could be great for heavier deadlifts, squats, bench, etc
445 with weight off the bar
Imagine this paired with a bulletproof isolator on their single post stand. Incredible.
The parachute mode seems interesting as a way to auto regulate resistance based on your power (like actual dropsets)
I'm so glad we get to see a review of this soon. I looked at it recently and it seems awesome but its way too expensive to blind buy.
The heavy negatives is an exciting prospect. For curls the only thing similar using standard cables is cheating the weight up with a bit of leg power then strict form on the eccentric.
Very interesting. I'm curious how long that thin rope lasts and if they will have replacements for it.
I could see this in retirement homes. If people can attach a “rack”/frame to a wall it would easily allow older folks to have a functional trainer in their room.
When the most revolutionary thing cost as much as a decent budget home gym set up x.x lol
I truley think this product or one similar will be the next essential versatile option same as a dumbell/barbell/cable. There are just too many applications for this. One thing I hope they program would be the inverse of band tension, replicating what something like Prime equipment can accomplish.
wow this looks amazing. definitely top on my wishlist
Changing the resistance on the return ... being able to mix it however you want is a game changer. And in time I would expect putting in an actual resistance curve, which would be greater still (unless it already does that). I would say, within a few years there will be all kinds of this device, at various prices.
*For anyone who's thinking of getting two units to do bilateral movements* (like dead lifts and bench presses). I just want you to understand that the experience may not be what you expect. Because it's two motors that aren't synced, they create this really unstable and jerky movement when attached to the same bar.
Take a look at 10:30 in the video to see what I mean.
In my opinion, these are really cool but don't bother getting two. Just get one and use it for exercises where 200lb is enough weight. I should say I haven't tried these but I've tried another similar product (made in Italy that I forgot the name of)
He's only using a single unit in your example. Your point might still stand, but I wouldn't link that clip as proof that the two won't work together.
@@BrandonSchwartz1 you're right, my mistake.
In the clip @ 10:30 he is not using two devices. There are two cables connected to each end of the bar to the same device. That configuration will be unstable. But you do make a good point otherwise and it would be nice to see how 2 separate devices would feel when used together.
Buying two is the only thing that makes sense. Most people would want these to mimic a functional trainer. How you gonna do cable flys with only one of these?
@@hitleractually8180 🤦♂ that's for your username.... 🤦♂ and that's for thinking that cable fly's are the pinnacle of cable training
Being able to change the concentric and eccentric weights is a game changer, but I can't justify that price. I'll be interested to see how low the price can eventually go.
Had been waiting on that review for some time! Once they come out with a 400lbs V2, it'll be an absolute must-have. Still gonna probably grab a pair of 1s as is.
Great review. Coop how did you anchor the black 3x3 upright that you attached the Beyond Power Voltra to? Is it attached to the floor or table? Being able to have a single 3x3 upright you could then use for dips, resistance work from this or using a leg roller for split squats seems really useful
This is an amazing machine, and basically the idea I have had in my head for a long time. The problem is the price tag, this is a $300-$400 machine at scale. You are 100% paying for being the innovation leader.
$2k is mental, I don't need magnesium alloy body, I don't need an electrically actuated mounting mechanism, I just need a solid case that contains a field operated motor with batteries and some PID control for resistance. I'll wait for the $350 mass made Chinese version, hopefully not too far away, as I have been waiting for years.
Is the cable long enough that you can have the travel-board on the ground and overhead press with it?
great, i might have to get a crossbar for my power rack so i can attach it to the floor and use this for weighted pullups...
Is that an old Baldwin Denim hat? I have one of those, and it's been a long time since I've seen someone else with one. I don't even think you can get them anymore, because I don't think Baldwin Denim exists anymore.
Wow these are expensive! 😵. Super sick product. I was thinking I could mount two off my 6’ storage rack to get a wider distance for flys. Ha, at $4200 for two I may hold off for now 😂. Love the product though. Thanks coop!
For flys, I was thinking of attaching my safety arms sideways and sticking these on the ends.
Thats a great idea! My rack is a 2x3 so I can't put my spotter arms in that orientation. Gah! @@larrysanderson9796
Really interested in the negative being heavier, as is supposed to be really good for development. I hope these turn up in gyms, as I do not want to pay a few grand for one.
Hey Coop! Would you do a review on the body solid pro weight assist dip chin up machine?
Ive lost 56 lbs so far using an all in one gym plus Nordictrack select weight dumbbells, Rep Ez curl bar, Rep ab3000 2.0 bench. I am Interested in a dip station but still to heavy to do all of my body weight for dips or chin ups.
I saw this machine online and thought it would be great for building up to full body weight exercises.
Thanks for all the great content!
Jim
These new electrical weight systems are truly awesome. Fantastic devices. Very female and beginner friendly. Very clean, no mess, small space,... These are best for penthouse weight rooms, hotel gyms, office building gyms,..... For the home, I prefer bars with chalk and blood, combined with rusty steel noisy plates, smash a finger get pissed off and then hit a new PR.
This thing is incredible. I hope the app is well designed to keep track of workouts.
Looks great for reverse squats, I’ve been looking for a good solution for that.
Someone needs to start a chain where you can try these products out. Crazy to spend this much without a demo.
I can totally envision people putting this in the van life builds. Personally i would have it atach to the outside of the van or when you open the door it attached to the inside(not on the door)
The features and convenience are pretty cool. Hiwever wish they didnt include the touch screen and it was just a few buttons like on a remote. They could have a movile app with all the extra tweaking and features instead.
This is exactly what Ive wanted for a long time! Price is a bit out of reach for me, especially for a pair. But I hope they come down.
I would love to see Coop review the Isokinator by Koelbel Research.
DJI engineers have done some amazing things. They recently revolutionized the 3D printing home market with Bambu Labs. Real innovation and great quality, I feel like DJI was the start of China getting in the game for high end electronics.
This product looks insane
Should come with extra ropes.. how hard is it to service?
What is the pull chord made of? The chord material looks like woven nylon or poly. This would be the most likely part of product to fail. If so, how expensive would a new pull chord cost and would it be a DIY replacement?
I'm very curious about electronic resistance trainers. But I have yet to see one that makes sense. The Voltra is $2,500 for 200 lbs of resistance -- not a good deal. They show people hooking 2 of these to a power rack, which gets you 400 lbs, but costs $5,000!! Note that the mounts are extra, at least $250. Also, the "cable" is string that looks like it would be worn out in weeks, and costs $100 to replace. The battery is $400 ($800 for a pair) to replace.
Altogether, looks like it would cost around $3,000 over the next couple of years to maintain one, or $6,000 to maintain two of them.
If you were to lose control and the handle flies out of your hands, any Chan’s of the display getting wrecked ??
Have you tried belt squatting with this?
The cost of two should be on par or close to the cost of functional trainers. I'm either getting the Rep Fitness Arcadia, Athena, or this.
Very impressive product and as always, great review. Still. With how much gym cost has dropped, at least in my area, would it be cheaper to go to a gym?!
Make a bench with attachment points that use that
I want constant change in resistance with timed reps like an arx
I'd never get this for rdls, the rom is already limited by the plates being too big and this seems to start even higher, surely you aim to increase flexibility as much as possible in your hamstrings.
1. Can you use it without the app?
2. Can you set it to kg’s?
They shuuld make a wall instalation for these. On wood and or on concrete.
i will buy one for my 3 week safari trip in east africa this is a game changer...there are no gyms out in the masai mara and i was going to rely on bodyweight exercises
good luck charging it :)
Whoo! I've been waiting for this review! Thanks so much!
awesome stuff
looks really advanced, i however will have to keep using my Amazon resistance bands at that price point
Using this with a squat rack. With no other weight on the rack, what would be the best option to weigh down the rack while using these?
Friday GGR! Best way to start the weekend :)
Lets go!
Is there an app to control it easier and monitor your workouts ?
This could be really awesome for traveling actually. Looking forward to the comparison Coop!
Can you do static holds with this one? If so, if you raise it on 100 and hold it, will it be 100 or what you set the lowering weight to be?
All talking about price of that thing, but none of you have commented on his incredibly well groomed moustache… let’s take a moment to appreciate that marvel 👨🏻🎉
Been waiting for this review
Does it do eccentric and concentric at the same time?
Wonder if that screen can survive getting smoked by a dropped handle…
Maybe we'll see what happens in that scenario in the full review!
I've thought about that too. Potentially why their handles are carbon fiber and not metal. - Coop
@@GarageGymReviews review it soon. This is one of the most intriguing products I've seen. It basically make my rep ares seem obsolete...assuming it's reliable and give the same continuous force. I know some devices like this don't.
What about Sole SRVO? No subscription, universal carabiner attachment, but only $1650.
The string seems to be the weak point. Curious to see how it will hold long term...
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Mini tonal without the screen. Basically tug of war with a motor.
Can you use it 90° tilted? Does the screen tilt as well?
That I pretty similar to the box a Phantom 4 comes in.
We need color options (black at least) and protection for the screen. Then they can take my money. Until then, I'll patiently wait...
The only drawback is that I'm worried that the screen on the tensioner will be broken when you can't control it to bounce back too fast
Does anyone know what jacket coop is wearing from arcteryx?
Someone’s gotta find a way to hook these up to a cable stack w/ like a gym pin or something. Would open up insane capabilities