2023 Genesis GV60 Performance Is EV Quick And Stuffed With Tech
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- Опубліковано 30 чер 2024
- The all-electric Genesis GV60 is the brand’s first electric vehicle built on a dedicated EV architecture. It has a completely different vibe than platform sharing Hyundai Ioniq 5 and Kia EV6. Quick, quiet, nimble and packed with tech features, the Performance will get you where you’re going in unique Genesis style (that not everyone’s going to love). Tom tests a Performance model in Uyuni White and a Torrent Navy interior that retails for $69,560… if you can even buy it where you live. It's only available in Arizona, California, Connecticut, New Jersey, Nevada, New York, Utah and Washington. Oh, and that Chrystal Sphere!
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00:00 Intro
1:00 Pricing/Availability
1:40 Design
2:36 Powertrain
3:33 Chrystal Sphere
4:24 Performance
5:31 Range Testing
6:50 One Pedal Driving
7:44 Ride Quality
8:55 Charging
10:20 Interior
11:51 Interface
12:24 Face Recognition And Tech
13:57 Back Seat
15:26 Cargo
16:38 Red Light Green Light
17:44 Summary
18:50 Epilogue
20:17 More Tech
20:59 Close
22:02 Blooper!
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Hey Tom - for the record, I always prefer your videos over Doug's.
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Your videos have always been better than Doug's by leaps and bounds. Thanks for the fantastic content!
Agreed, less quirks more features and useful.
Yeah the Doug's scores/ratings is just pointless and biased
For the last two months in August and September electrify America has been offering free charging in Orange County California! Since my 2 EVs replaced my ICE cars that’s about $1000 saved on gasoline
The GV60 Performance hits the sweet spot with tech, range, and performance. It's a shame that it's so expensive though, especially since Hyundai group has lost the $7500 EV tax credit.
Great review Tom
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Thanks for the review Tom!
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Great review Tom. Thorough and informative.
My friend bought one in southern NJ last week. Car is coming this month. Not bad.
Love how you intergrated the ELR in this review. Do you still have yours? Love your work!
Great video as always. Regarding the auto-seat adjustment for the driver, the facelift of the first generation G90 has it.
When Tom says the head up displays are hard to capture accurately on camera, I believe him!
Just a thought, how many sets of tyres to EV's go through a year?, there is a hell of a lot of power going down on the road, esp, if they are driven with gusto. :) plus the extra weight EV's on top of that.
Great job, as usual Tom
Im gettinf my gv60 monday. Thank you for going over all the tech where other reviewers have not :)
Hope you enjoy it!
how's it been for you. getting mine in a few months.
Hi Tom, UK viewer (Glasgow), always precise, no umms and ahhs, you clearly do your homework...preparation really is the key. Thank you.
I appreciate the high quality and plain spoken way you perform reviews. I have to say, the GV60 argument seems weak considering the in-house competition from the Ionic5 and EV6. Two requests; 1. Review more vehicles for the "common man". Lately it seems you're concentrating on premium models. That may be a reflection of availability. 2. Shorten the length of your reviews. Not long ago your video reviews were closer to 10 minutes. I often skip longer videos, preferring to get a " quick take". Of course serious shoppers may appreciate the in-depth review. Regardless, I continue to enjoy your excellent reviews.
Great and well done video, as it is your tradition. Thank you for making your videos interesting, informative, and fun. Just as a side note, some car manufacturers don't do wireless Apple CarPlay because of loss of sound quality when compared to the wired connection. Cheers.
Then plug it in. There should be a choice. Most can't tell the difference in audio anyway.
@@DrivenCarReviews🙂 I wish I would have a choice when it comes to spare tire with all cars - don't let me start on run flat tires 😞
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I like the design. I have no use for an EV, but I like the looks. Hyundai can do no wrong in the design dept. these days.
I would love to have one of these...maybe in 3 years when they actually have some available at the dealerships.
Gv60 needs to roll out v2x on all models. I would buy instantly
Tom, can you do a long term review of your second generation Volt?
Dang man I wish I had your access, I’ve been calling all over the Seattle area trying to see if anyone had one I could see in person or test drive. Nobody has one. I want to make the move to EV but also treat myself to a little luxury and this seems like the car.
Bought mine 3 weeks ago in LA. Pretty car. Really enjoy it
@@robinburrell4421belated follow up, I ended up doing the same thing, driving to LA and buying one and road-tripping it back home to Seattle, that was over eight months ago, and my only regret is driving my trade-in down to LA. Love the car, would love to bend the ear of someone from Genesis with a few suggestions of a few improvements
That crystal ball´s gonna look pretty interesting when that thing got a short circuit LOL, brands play with people´s mind... Grat review as always, anonymous design thou
Wireless CarPlay is certainly convenient. Using it, Apple Maps, streaming music or listening to a book on a long trip decreases the iPhone’s battery about as fast as a Hummer eats a tank of gas. You end up plugging in the iPhone anyway. It’s always something! Another great review, Tom. Thanks!
That's why wireless charging and wireless APC is a good combination.
@@DrivenCarReviewsonly for short drives! On longer drives, so far between the qi charging loss heat, and the heat from running location services it turns every in-car wireless charger I’ve used into a phone oven, roasting the phones battery. So I always plug in and eschew qi charging if it’s a long trip and I’m using waze.
Gorgeous vehicle
Another great review, thanks! An Ioniq 5 owner on UA-cam says that Level 1 charging on his EV results in a 30% efficiency loss when comparing electricity used to electricity added to the battery. This compares to a 10% efficiency loss using a Level 2 charger. Have you done any testing on Level 1 vs Level 2 charging efficiency?
Waiting for the "spilled latte test" on the crystal ball shifter ☺
This vehicle is impressive 👍
Always the best reviews. PERIOD. Thanks Tom.
Beautiful car. I also like the Ionic 5.
The blue interior is stunning, I’ve experienced it in person, but I wish it was available on more exterior colors. Available only on white and highlighter yellow.
I just bought one in silver with black interior.
Tom the whirring sound you are hearing under 25 is the external sound so that pedestrians can hear the car. It definitely turns off around 25mph.
Yup. Didn't make that clear.
@@DrivenCarReviews Can you imagine if every car had those noisemakers? They are louder than ICEV right now, especially luxury ICEV which can be near silent.
I like it Tom
Thanks!
Thank you Jonnie!
The Ionic 5 is the best of the trio.
Bang for the buck, I might agree.
Another great video. Evil twin is wrong by the way!
In the Kona electric the most aggressive regen stopping was done when you held on to the left paddle. Is that not the case with these eGMP cars?
I didn't try it that way but I don't think so. The paddle is used to select a level, and it says there.
Love everything about this car. But for about $70K, I need minimum....minimum of 300 miles. Because I know winter will eat 25% of it up. Can't imagine starting the car in a frozen winterland with a full battery knowing I'll get only 190-200 miles. More than enough for city driving. But if Tesla can deliver 300+, everyone can.
Sooo… do the brake lights come on when you lift your foot off the throttle and in aggressive regeneration mode?
Yes
May I suggest a "Mississippi" tune-up? They should track seconds pretty precisely, so a triple meter will get us there: 1 2& 3& 1 2& 3& (one Mississippi, two Mississippi")--instead of the duple meter 1 &a 2e(&) 1 &a 2e(&)--which makes the timing longer than seconds. This is hard to put into typing, sure! (Music notation would work.) But make it like a jazz waltz (triple) rather than a walk (duple, 1 2) to get seconds. Fun fact (since you give us so many): This is what Shari Lewis (the great ventriloquist, singer, dancer, etc.) was taught by her education professor father in New York City.
Fun Fact : I Think theres more dedicated Genesis Dealership in Canada than in USA.
Thanks Tom, the cargo is indeed a tie breaker for me, and I'll keep my Ioniq5 reservation. Also i can't wait until Volvo / Polestar releases an eV-90, will be the choice, choice.
EX-90 debuts next week!
I think Volvo are worth waiting for. I am tipping the Volvo ev rollout to be the euro beater.
@@-Derp- I hope so! That long wheelbase makes me think of good ev range numbers, and I'll happily take the 'old' interior with Polestar infotainment if it hurries the project up.
12:08 Tom- the wireless Car Play/AA issue with Hyundai/Kia isn't a technological issue. A Hyundai rep at an event last year said it's more of a licensing dispute with Apple/Google over whether their GPS map or Hyundai's maps are displayed as the default on their larger screens. Seems quite silly to me but that's what he said. Hopefully it's resolved soon.
Yeah I heard about this recently as well. I do have a Motorola wireless AA adapter but would rather have it built-in. They need to just go to an all Google system with Google maps like how it is in the Accord Touring.
The GV60 or Cadillac Lyriq has not been seen in my area but there are Teslas everywhere...
We do have a few Hyundai Ioniq 5, Kia EV-6, Electric Ponys, and Volkswagon ID4 though.
I saw a Lyriq in the wild for the first time. GM is ramping up production slowly.
Cadillac has only delivered 36 Lyriqs so far. They are taking their roll out very cautiously.
Sorry I saw you still had your ELR. How is that working for you?
It’s a great car. The only issue I’ve had is the CUE screen going bad but that was covered under warranty, just like everyone else’s.
It may be advantageous to buy from a Canadian dealer as they don’t mark up their cars and the great exchange rate.
Great review and thanks for doing a HIGHWAY range test. The "city" and EPA "mixed" range are stupid. No one cares about the "city" range of an ICE car-- range means LONG range.
imo, it looks like a Porsche from the rear. I like the look.
Nice review, but the question no reviewer has addressed is, when the motor/solenoid in the "crystal" shifter burns out or stops working, what is the over-ride to put the vehicle into gear then? No response from 6 other reviewers so far. Just asking.
If you look at the console near the “D” there’s a tab that can be removed with a key. I believe if you push down in there the sphere rotates manually to operate the selector. I’ll confirm with Genesis.
Confirmed by Genesis.
'Natural language?' I think you mean Polestar Tom? :)
Battery range? How far. Can you go between charges???
Here ya go- 3:10 and 5:30. Charging at 8:55
Not as attractive as the Ionic 5 even though it may be more luxurious on the inside. The Ionic 5 is still my favorite EV at this point but the Caddy Lyric(?) is truly gorgeous. Overall, the EV market is heating up and offerings like these should coax more people into making the transition away from ICE-cars. Still, what the world needs is a great entry-level EV that offers up a little more space, speed, substance and features that what is out there now. A Civic EV (in the same price range) is what the masses need, me especially. Make a Civic EV estate and I'd be sold. So yeah, I want a unicorn and will likely never get what I want for my next new car. Anyway, another great review.
The Chevy Bolt is an excellent EV, especially for the price.
@@DrivenCarReviews True, and it looks nice, but it's no Civic in terms of quality and reliability. Still, it is a worthwhile EV to recommend to those that have to have one and live on a budget.
@@christopherprose3881 I suggest you look again. The new Bolt is very high quality and extremely reliable (now that the pack issue is addressed). The only issue is charge speed. GM has announced it's expanding production significantly.
@@DrivenCarReviews Very cool. I had no idea. Thanks for the advice.
@@DrivenCarReviews loving the hair cut you got
In 8 states in the US when someone says: "Well, I don't have a crystal ball.." You can answer now, "There is the GV60 from Genesis..."
Why the heck did sales skip from Washington to California right over green Oregon?
Plus, is it even legal under federal Interstate Commerce Act for a company to restrict which states are allowed to sell an item? Must be the vehicle dealer monopoly franchise laws.
Nope. Oregonians can buy one, they just ned to go to CA or WA to get it. No problem in Portland.
PS Centralia Burgerville's asparagus "fries" look amazing. Am I right or am I right?
Green beans actually. They were VERY good.
Crystal Ball is all reasons to buy
Honey, I’m off to Centralia.
- What, again!?!
It’s for work. 🍔 😋
GV60 looks great!
Which are those lucky states or you can buy one
Damn, I always forget one graphic. Arizona, California, Connecticut, New Jersey, Nevada, New York, Utah and Washington.
Tom, why are 20"+ wheels a thing on EVs? Weight is the enemy of the EV, so why is it artificially being added in the form a humongous wheels? Is it a tire load issue? Or is it purely in the name of "style"?
Great video, Tom. I’m trying to understand the GV60s value proposition compared to other EVs at this price point. The exterior, IMO, doesn’t look premium. Sporty, yes, but it doesn’t seem to fit in with the rest of the Genesis offerings design-wise. For me, the interior may have great materials but the design looks a lot like the much cheaper Ioniq 5. In fact, I think a loaded Ioniq 5 is the GV60’s biggest competitor. Genesis is definitely going after the higher end of EVs. The GV60 starts at $59k. The Electrified G80 starts at $79k. I’m guessing the Electrified GV70 will slot in around $69k. That E-GV70 may end up being a bigger seller than the GV60 due the the more premium design inside and out, but that will depend on what kind of range and performance the E-GV70 has.
I definitely think it looks premium
Huh. You may be right on pricing and value, but I don't understand how you say this doesn't look premium. And despite sharing a platform (maybe?) with the Ioniq 5, it looks absolutely nothing like the Ioniq 5. If someone had slapped a Tristar on the front, I would easily have thought this was a Mercedes.
Great job the review, as always. Until Hyundai starts making way more of these, it's somewhat futile watching this review. Almost make me want to suggest that such vehicles be de-prioritized in Tom's review process over vehicles that can readily had.
KIA charge door looks breakable as well, prefer something more solid and simple. Sadly worried that Ioniq6 maybe also limited sales in 8 forward thinking states.
Tom. I think you are under estimating your neighbors…I’m sure they would love to see you do a 0-60 and a little drifting…
I think my neighbors would understand. This is not my neighborhood.
I don't understand how BMW has removed iDrive controller from all their newer EV ..... At least Genesis keeps controller
Ha I don't miss the engine sound. In fact, I am annoyed to turn on artificial sound.
They Hyundai Motor group supposedly has a disagreement on the Navigation priority from what I have heard. So models with built-in Navi don’t get wireless and those without on board gps get wireless connectivity. No evidence to back this up but they do out a good deal of effort into the maps and Navi system so it seems plausible they want their system to have priority over Maps. Take this with a grain of salt.
Hyundai does have wireless apple car play for economy models without Nav. If you need a car with inbuilt navigation, you dont get Wireless car play.
But as I said, not in the top interface. Which is odd.
@@DrivenCarReviews Yeah i got elantra N recently and it doest have wireless. If you see a black one in seattle area it may be mine lol. the wireless charger it came with is pointless as the new iphone 14 with the camera bump disconnects once every sec
I think if given a choice the new Caddy Lyriq is appealing but no way of knowing Reliability. I would have to get a Very Long warranty.
i tell u. now unless it is like the Citroen Oli. i am not tempted at all. only orderimg the taycan cross turismo as a trophy. more desire to use the Oli as a daily. Of course since i can only afford to pay so much in insurance. i would only able to afford the Taycan. on to the genesis. i would be tempted to get it as my first car which i kind of did. but once i know better, i quickly traded it for a used S2000 instead.
Which one would you buy Tom, GV 60 or electrified GV 70?
Both are nice. Doesn't matter what I'd buy. What do you like? That's the one you should get.
That's the problem-I like them both!@@DrivenCarReviews
Saw two of these on the road yesterday, one red, the other in rose gold. Girlfriend said it looked horrific, while just a couple weeks ago she applauded Hyundai for the Ioniq 5.
Sorry but your comments about 120v and 240v charging is not practical. 68 hours to charge is not ok. always get the 240v for your home. Installation generally less than $750 and charger costs$550. Plus you can charge off peak hours.
True, it's not practical for some, but it is for others (or necessary) . Everyone situation is different. Running 240V from my very old house to my garage (that's detached, concrete and buried into the side of a hill) is very expensive. I've been quoted $4K if I had someone do it. Live in a condo or town home? 120 might be the only way to go. I know someone that can't upgrade to 240 and they do very well charging on 120 and occasionally hit up a public DC fast charge station like once a month.
Kinda looks like a Nissan Juke 😊
You do not need to spend "thousands" on a level 2 charger. Have a 240 outlet install, for like $200 and use the EVSE that comes with the car.
You might if your panel isn’t close to where the car is charged. It depends on a lot of things. Every case is different. My garage is detached and set into a hill. Hiring someone to bury a cable and drill through concrete is estimated at $3K.
@@DrivenCarReviews Oh ok, but you made it sound like it's going to cost thousands for everyone.
I love your videos, their relevance and their superb quality. You well explain the advantages of EVs. Where I live in Iowa the right wing has declared war on EVs, despite Iowa being one of the top states in wind generation. Paradoxes being a staple of the far right, their reasoning is the promotion of corn based ethanol, while simultaneously also opposing carbon capture pipelines. Right wing extremist politics has accelerated the brain drain with rapidly deteriorating cognitive ambience.
In photos and video, this doesn’t appeal to me. A few weeks ago I saw one in person. It’s tiny, looks dumpy, I was even less impressed. Not a chance I’d be interested in this in anyway! Sadly even the Hyundai Kona looks way better.
Saw my first GV60 a couple weeks ago....AND it looks very goofy and cartoon-like. I was seriously considering this vehicle, but after seeing it live, the design just feels one step removed from the last of Powell Motors (The Simpsons).
And some people love it. Like I said, very polarizing.
Just make friends with an electrician for a 240V plug
The guy has a iPhone 6 at 3:35 , just imagine when he sees an iPhone 14
Good for him. I keep my phones for as long as I can.
@@DrivenCarReviews But do you still love your ELR? My 2012 Chevy Volt has 134k and still gets up to 35 miles of EV range.
I definitely prefer the evil twin.
I know is not in the same category but I think the VW ID4 has much better design, same practicality and lower price.
Curious: Why are (most) OEMs ignoring PHEVs & (Range Extended EVs)?
It eliminates the biggest downside of BEVs: finding a charger on a road trip that isn't occupied, ICED, vandalized, broken or in a private lot.
Spending a charging session on a rainy night with crying toddlers or a whining doggo will keep people happlily in their 15mpg SUVs.
A PHEV gives owners 15,000 miles pure electric commuting annually on cheap, clean home electricity.
What gives?
Oh, I prefer the GV60 to the Lyric . . . but DGMW, the GV60 does kinda look dumpy.
Still a bigger fan of the Ioniq 6.
“Save thousands on the Level 2 installation”. Come on Tom. That’s BS. The chargers cost from $300-700 and an electrician between $500-1,000 depending on how complicated your install is. Plus you get a $300 tax credit from the federal government and other incentives from local governments and utilities. For someone who is testing EVs all the time you should definitely get one.
Not at all BS. According to many sources, the average cost is $2K when all is said and done. And when it comes to older homes, or ones with detached garages, it can be double that. My house is especially bad. It's 105 years old with a detached concrete garage set into a hill. I had an outfit bid $4,400 to do everything, including burying the cable and updating the panel. Another bid $5K. So 120V with two PHEVs is working just fine for me for now until my electrician friend gets some spare time and I get some exercise digging 30 feet of trench.
@@DrivenCarReviewsI’m sorry to hear about your situation but don’t throw everybody in the same bag. I got a nice ChargePoint Flex home charge for $700 and a separate 240V/50 Amp circuit for $650 here in Ballard (Seattle). Minus a $300 tax credit. In Snohomish county, like in many other places, they throw in another $500 incentive.
@@mcrkon I'm happy for you, that's awesome. Great price. I have to be realistic though and the national average is around $2K including tax breaks and incentives. I'm not using my personal situation in this case, I'm painfully aware it's on the high end. FYI, my brother-in-law had an average install with an attached garage. Needed a panel update. Including charger and credits, it came to $1,800. And that was the low bid. Part of it was the cable run where he wanted the charger located, which was the other side of the garage from the panel. My brother's install was much less. Newer panel that was 5 feet from where he wanted it located. An easy update he did himself. Lower than your price.
Great video. Please start including battery degredation and battery replacement costs. O've been hearing numbers from $12,000 to $20,000 or more. If this is true, it will be a great scam for automakers to screw us all over 7-10 years after we buy the car.
I just don't understand the EV horsepower race. If their purpose is really to conserve / reduce energy consumption. Can't they get extra range without extra horsepower? Who needs 0 0-60. Yeah, its fun but it's pure dissipation. Give me a car with 300 miles range and I settle for 0-60 in 8 seconds.
Power has always been an arms race, and always will be. It's part of vehicle marketing.
@@DrivenCarReviews electric vehicles are supposed to help,save,the planet..power is a bullshit argument, especially for the electron activists
Long Range, Standard Range or Performance are Tesla’s options.
I doubt that smaller motors would improve the range noticeably..........Paul
Most EVs are still about $20K out of the average, so manufacturers still have some wiggle room to play with some of the parameters (HP). Once the generally accepted range for EVs comes down to more realistic daily use cases, maybe around 150-200 mile range; then we'll start to see EVs that are probably cheaper than ICE vehicles.
Someone planning lots of trips to the toilet? 😮
Sorry..........I'll take a Lyrik, Please...............Paul
The "Lyriq" isn't too bad either Paul.😏
Exterior is meh. Those metallic surfaces in the interior plastic? Why get this when there is IONIQ 5?
Most of the metallic on the center console, doors, and dash are real metal.
16:25 onwards: 2 ply? Really?! If you get a GV60 over the Ioniq 5 or EV6, you certainly will get 4 or 5 ply toilet paper over 2 ply.
Free charge because their system has been broken for a month.
you get the same performance, same quality, same...everything...from EV6 or Ioniq...
"Stuffed with tech"... A concept I think that is really slowing down the implementation of EVs. Power windows. Power mirrors. A kick'n stereo. That is 100% of the electronic nonsense I need in a CAR.
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Ambient lighting. Internet access. Doors that open automatically. DOOR HANDLES (for Christ's stake) that open automatically. Fobs, yeah you heard me, fobs - I have the mental and physical capacity to operate a KEY. Oh god, screens. Giant screens. Multiple screens. Touch screens. HAPTIC ANYTHING. Don't get me started on the NANNY TECH... oh god, look over my shoulder to check my blind spot? The horror! And this is just the tip of the proverbial iceberg...
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All this 'tech' really does is jack up the price. I have to imagine you could easily knock off $10k-$15k off these EVs if you just got rid of the 'tech baggage'. Aaaand, we all know how our phones, and laptops suffer from being based on the computer chip. I can see it now, stranded on the side of the road talking to tech support... "well sir, have you tired turning the car off then back on again?" Ha ha ha ha... I'm laughing so that I don't start crying...
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The car company that comes out first with a 'basic' 99% analogue EV (short of a big battery with long range, and quick charging times) is going to win the EV war. Seriously, what is the average price for the EVs that get 350-400 miles a charge? It has to be $70k-$80k. That's over double the ICE equivalents.
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I was in the market this year for a new pickup. Sure, the Rivian is one of the most amazing vehicles on the planet (as good off-road as a jeep, supercar acceleration, and semi-luxury cabin). But when a PICKUP starts at $80,000. (Key word STARTS)... I ended up with a Honda Ridgeline, for all of $42k. The $38k I saved will buy a lot of gas. (And I have zero charging issues, range anxiety, etc).
Tom, I don't think it cost "Thousands" of dollars to add a level two charger. Very poor video to make people think in Thousands of dollars. Please get real.
The ugliest of the three. The Ionic is a boring rehash of early 1970s Italian slab-sided design. Kia is the best looking.
Yet another propaganda video totally ignoring all the faults and dangers of EV’s.
Nope. Pretty well rounded look. EVs don't work for everyone, but they offer big benefits for a lot of people.