Racing Lines | MotoGP Explained
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- What racing lines do MotoGP riders such as Marquez, Dovizioso, Rins and Rossi use? What is a defensive line? Why would you use a squared off line vs a progressive line?
Lets figure it out.
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The way he explains this is just absolutely brilliant. It's like a high class lecture
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Great content again Mike 🏍
the way I've always startted to figure out the best line is to work my way backwards from the exit in to each corner or corner complex. prioritizing the corner exit speed at the end. The longer the straight the more the exit is the priority. then you have to just keep tweaking and testing the line the bike and the style until it fits the track and conditions.
Really needed this - Used to think so much, finally made sense thanks to U, Brother!! :)
🔥 music selection at the end!
God bless you Mike;
This video was so clear and helpful! THANKS!!
Excellent video! Can't wait for more.
very helpful video. thank you
Damn you're good Mike...
do you do any hour long go fast classes?
Hey Mike, Love the song on your outro of the video, what is the name of the band singing?
watch out - chaun davis
wow
Everything can be broken down to a science.
este deveria ter em espanhou tambem
Which song is played during the intro?
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Is he explaining racing line or teaching us physics??
Mike's content is fantastic, but he seems to be working on the assumption that his viewers have a good grasp of physics.
He also drops in a lot of equations without fully explaining what each variable is, and what it does.
This certain isn't a criticism as it's difficult to assess the understanding your subscribers - dumbing down wouldn't do the channel any favours, but he could possibly spend a a small amount of time explaining the equations.
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Uh wut lol
Underated youtuber
He is doing well and is growing steadily. Life isn't fair anyways. If it was, he would of course have grown even faster for having such high quality content from the start. He was under 10k subs for a disproportionate time, but now over 100k. It seems the growth is somewhat exponential HIs videos are still good and in many ways much better. The motard racing was an immense increase in enjoyment. He is not just talking but doing, and doing well enouhg to be entertaining to watch him do it.
i dont even have i bike yet or watch moto gp but his channel is still really good
4 dislikes from people who don`t watch MotoGP xD
No, he missed several other lines, doh!
17 dislikes🤣
Man your production quality has increased so hard over the years. Great stuff! Great video
I applied these teachings to motogp23 game and it's wonderful. Love it
Excellent video as always Mike.
In your Line Selection Criteria - #6 Opponent Strengths/Weaknesses, I'm sure that the riders take into account the mentality of their opponents, and try to read what their opponents are likely to do, (and this would vary depending upon what stage the race is at) in any given situation - some riders like the late Marco Simoncelli, Andrea Iannone, and even the younger Marquez and Rossi were known for making late, balls out lunges, forcing the issue, (even employing the "dark arts") while some riders will ride far more conservatively, biding their time, reading their opponents over a couple of laps before committing to a move.
This of course comes under strengths/weaknesses, but mentality is slightly different from skill set.
Rossi was a master at reading the minds of his opponents - seemingly more aware of what his opponents would do before they knew themselves.
This isn't a criticism of your list, just a minor addition, and of course it's only my opinion.
Well delivered!
Rider preference, thanks, now i got my answer 😇
That's why, even in the same corner, someone might choose different line
"There's always something new to learn.", love that phrase. Also keep up the good work dude! I learn a lot in this channel
Salute to those pro riders!! so many things going on their mind at 200+km/h!!!
Now i realized why getting the best time is crucial. It means you have figured out the best lines and the how-to's to traverse those lines.
so many things to be thinking and keeping track of. brain calculations running at 1000 fps all while doing speeds of up to 200mph. Crazyyyyy.
E=mc2 and don't Google it. I believe that your an intelligent person not just a crash dummy on a jet with wheels.
Like an ice skater pulling her arms in to spin faster. How would that equation look. Huh boo?
You have lots of good content historically. This is next-level stuff. Thank you and well done!
God bless you Mike!
Editing etc is once again very good and entertaining, but try to get the facts to same level.
Squared off line was used in two stroke era. It is not a fast line, but a safe line when power spike kicks in.
With modern bikes trail braking is always used. So the actual line before (late) apex is a bezier curve.
And line after apex is also a bezier curve. More straightish if apex speed is low and engine power is high. And more roundish if apex speed is high and engine power is low.
That is why motogp and moto3 uses different lines on same track.
A defensive line is just more straightish before apex, to keep the "door shut".
Tell that to Lorenzo.
There is no such thing as centrifugal force. Think about it F=ma and the acceleration is in the direction of the force. this is the opposite of your diagram. The force that changes your direction is towards the inside of the curve or you would not turn, it is called centripetal force and the illusion of the outward force is your inertia.
squaring the angle looks like a very "unfair" tehnic. i am a total rookie btw: but still i ve driven enough vehicules to tell that it makes the dude behind braking.
Squaring off also provides awesome advantage on road riding as you win visibility along the corner while entering on a moderated speed. And you're able to exit with better visibility of what comes next and a closer line when accelerating so that you avoid ending up on the opposite lane (Or too near from cars coming in opposite direction). :)
I tend to square most corners. I like to drop in to the turns. Long sweepers I like to turn in earlier and follow the curve.
I totally understand why this video only have 33k views. Not all people understand shit like formulas.
my nose bled
brilliant explanation tho. 💚♥️
I watch f1 I just didn't know if the racing lines is the same for bikes. Since the inside wheel turns slower
Thank you for your knowledge 💯🏍
“defensive line” sums up as “parking it” lol
Nice
2:25 "turning in quick."
I understand the yellow line is exaggerated. It will be a smaller radius than the blue line. But in either case, wouldn't the rider need to lean the bike in quickly? The blue line is a constant radius, correct? In order to start following that circular line as close to the outside line as possible, he has transition from straight line to this circular arc as quickly as possible, no? Doesn't that mean the rider taking the blue line (at higher speed) has to lean the bike in just as quickly and deeply as the one making the yellow line (at lower speed)?
If the rider leaned the bike more slowly, wouldn't he have to start turning earlier? Wouldn't the bike would drift away from the outside line earlier, so the final, tightest radius circular arc would have to be smaller? Seems to me that if a racer is going to take this sort of line where he leans in slower, he is probably going to be braking a bit more as he starts to lean and trailing that brake off closer to the point he reaches the tightest part. Versus the classic "largest radius possible out-in-out" line.
The racer would be braking later and trailing deeper to maximize his use of the bike's traction circle whenever he's not leaning in quick. He's got 100 points, and the racer is going to try to use up to 99 of them as much as he can, so long as he has world class skill and is OK with crashing now and then.
He'd be flirting closer to the edge of traction for longer, so that he can make this lazy, spiral line a bit faster. And if he flirts close enough to the edge of his traction circle for long enough, braking as near as hard as possible throughout the entire corner entry and making a smooth transition to maintenance throttle on time, this line can sometimes be slightly faster in times than the classic out-in-out line.
Otherwise, the classic wide as possible circular line can be taken at the same or slightly higher apex/carry speeds, and there's no further need to prod the limits once you're reached your line. Just hold a steady speed, lean angle, and arc from here til the exit starts. You've already made it, once you've reached your line/lean. The video mentions a higher risk with this approach due to greater time spent leaned deeply. But one you've learned the track, you'd know which corners have bumps and bank angle changes and what lines you're trying to make.
As the video mentioned, Jorge and many other successful racers favor these kinds of classic wide-circle lines, and you could say they do ok. But with the advent of traction control, some of the top racers are pushing the limits of trail braking more frequently, especially on the wider tracks where slow spiral lines will have a bit of reward if you are willing to risk it. With TC evening the playing field, the margins are smaller. You have to take on more risk, more often, to gain a slight advantage over the rest of the field. In a racing sense, trail braking is not safer. It's the expert/pro approach. It's taking on more risk and more workload for sometimes slightly better lap times, or better blocking/passing.
I love your channel. I always learn something..😷👍
Perfect. I know now trail breaking
Excelent video, as always. But you're talking way too fast. 😛
Playback speed 0.75x
Some of us can keep up. Too much time is wasted filling videos with space.
Im not smart enough to understand this
Me not being able to ride my vespa on the street
Only those dingo that put dislike
I had an argument with a friend about racing lines because I play racing games with cars and he recently started playing Ride 4, he had a video where he went really wide on a corner I said that he would've been faster if he hugged the inside, the only argument he made was that "it's a motorcycle" so after some words on the search bar I found my answer, I understand what he meant to do but he overshot his intended line
talking about line racing, VR46 is a racer who can overtake without forcing opponents out of the racing line ,, and that's perfect ..
Did you mean forcing Pedrosa out of the line on straigh track?
Is nice bro !!! Thankss
V shaped lines go brrr
misano 2019 also a great example. yellow ppl always said marc brake checked fabio. they should ride a bike them self, lean at 50 degree, then hit the brake, preferably the front one, we will see something interesting lol.
marc prepared this for a whole race basically. studied every last bit which line fabio will take in that corner. then marc just closed the inside line. he also said if this plan failed he had another trick inside his sleeves in the next corner.
great video. thanks
Holy fk racing theory 101 folks. Subscribed
Another awesome insight backed up by science. Couldn’t have said it any better. That’s the difference between an average to good racer, to the best! They have more tools in their boxes. 👍😎
Can U add subtittle?
can you explain how do riders actually get the points during race?
What’s the background music???
thanks for sharing your knowledge, i was wondering why haha!
Great
Rigtig bra video, Micke. Det vil jeg prøve, næste gang jeg er på banen. :)
always watchin motogp'ive tried this many times'sir'fast cornering'on the streets'risky but in a safe time'without traffic'and people'it gives less stress for the bike too'
What even is this sentance lol
Hello!
The corner curve person studied!
Thank you! That's the best video about the lines I've ever seen.
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Wow. He is better than my physics teacher.
Thank you for making this video in my request
Another great video Mike, keep them coming!!
Great and well explained and well done thanks.
another informative video ...well done
Very good video Mike, thank you
I think this video could be better. The examples are not very good although most of the reasoning is good.
The typical “braking as late as possible” line is more of an early diagonal to the inside of the turn than a late turn-in. In fact in almost all of the examples I think it is important to highlight what effect braking has.
Also worth mentioning that simply the shortest distance possible is sometimes the quickest way around a curve. Going out wide in the middle of a long corner might allow a faster exit with a second apex, but at the cost of travelling a much greater distance, though you did touch on this in the the “what comes after?” part. There is much more to be said about all of this stuff.
Great content Mike! You're the best.
Good video contains a lot information
please, tell me again but a little slower ... thank you
You can change the speed in settings.
Maximize exit speed.
Im the Like number 1000
Stoner was the best
Good explanation. :)
That's why no race track can be square.
It's perfectly possibly to have a square racetrack - it just wouldn't be a good racetrack, and depending on how wide the track is the racing line could actually be a circle.
amazing video as always!
Lorenzo the king of cornering..😍
ROSSY and Rins
Please in español!!!!
This is great!
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Finally I see a video sharing the real trajectories, not only the theoretical ones. Great job!
ah yes, that makes so much sense 😋