I still remember when Hecz said the CDL or Activision or whoever was in control of people buying the org spots “you don’t fit the type of owner we’re trying to sell to” like that’s insane, I’m glad Hecz is gonna be petty to those corporate greedy freaks.
That would have been absolutely diabolical 🤣 at the end of the day the league always wants play politics, Hecz would have given them a taste of their own medicine. The league for sure would have had to play nice right away to get the numbers right. I love it.
Hecz could have definitely paid them the same salaries as he did for them in the league, but the issue is challengers don’t have near the prize pools event after event like the cdl. Thats a lot of money to miss out on if you’re a competitive team.
Idk man the rumored (and some confirmed) salaries at the start of the CDL were insane. I think enable said he was making 300k/yr I personally think it would be hard for any team, even optic to maintain those inflated salaries for 5 players (+coach & sub) regardless of if they're in challengers or CDL.
@@landon94 yes but that's with league prize pools, non-split viewership and other immeasurable factors. If scump had a team in challengers the league viewership would undoubtedly be split (my estimate would be 60-40 with 40% watching the CDL) could huntsman (not optic) afford 5 inflated salaries in a smaller market than the CDL I'm not so sure
If you want to play ranked. I feel every top 250 player should have to do PC and or console checks. Otherwise there is no recognition and they remove your name and profile. Every cheater baits they are cheating that way when they are caught they have an automatic fall back excuse.
they need to implement the same system as valorant or cs, they have an (invasive)anti cheat. that means they have premision to check the console/pc for cheat systems. and not only top250 but every rank because they start to see a lot of cheaters in diamond already
Imagine how crazy it would have been for scump/formal to be winning in challengers, bringing more eyes to that scene than the actual league. I wonder who would have joined them on a team because anyone sensible (arcitys/envoy/gunless/prestini) would NOT have agreed to play for the huntsman in challengers just because hecz was sending a message 😅
It blows my mind that I wouldn’t be surprised that the guy caught with cheats possibly “baited” for attention. If that’s the case, (which I don’t believe) then he’s putting a target on his back just to get a reaction. The problem is that people are this mentally unwell these days, that we actually consider that being a possible scenario. People are just desperate for approval more now than ever.
I don't get why people act like cheating is only a cod problem... no game without kernel level anti cheat will ever be able to combat the problem... kernel level anti cheat is a whole other problem within itself but cod, apex, siege, CS, even comp scenes like assetto corsa and f1 have cheating allegations every single big event. No one can work this out.. not just Activision
@buggg5750 ... cs2 is absolutely plagued with Cheaters😂 there's never been a true cheating allegation in the cdl besides maybe wake which was realistically a meme... so your point is kinda moot... the discussion was surrounding Cheaters in ranked... which plagues most other online games...
@@great-catsI don't know if you're aware but he was talking about ranked Cheaters like its solely Activisions downfall... hense why I said not 1 publisher outwith riot with kernel level anti cheat can stop cheating outright...
Honestly the maps are terribly made in this game sometimes trucks won’t load and I can see people through walls the entire game, but people think I’m hacking but it’s really not my fault the game gave me that advantage because it’s wouldn’t load up the map properly, and other times people forget they can be pinged by a teammate, also idk why people think I’m hacking if I’m in plat 2
I think gunless/envoy/arcitys would have gone elsewhere (probably Seattle like they originally were rumored to) which would mean slacked/apathy/karma would have not been on Seattle (hypothetically). I could see a team of karma/scump/apathy/slacked and MAYBE formal playing in challengers if they had no other options
they just need to focus on cheaters and nothing else before anything. just take a break and head back to MW3 with the better maps with the b06 updates and guns/movement. i think he was actually cheating and had a back up in mind showing everyone that they had a back up lmao.
Hecz just doesn’t have the money to bully these corps like that…. Even if he went through with his idea of strengthening challengers , challengers was still owned and operated by the CDL. All they would do is put more money in their pockets by strengthening the less viewed streams all while the main vod gets decently similar numbers
It’s doesn’t matter! He is guilty by his own hand! He should be reset or banned….period! It’s like Bobby Poff admitting to paying people to grind “only camo”. Too bad, so sad, if you are making millions playing a video game and risk it to cheat for camo’s, shame on you!
It’s weird but I’ve been seeing a lot of people that are playing like WZ or MP streaming on YT when I get caught up scrolling through shorts they either have bouncing red boxes going around like you have walls but it’s fake and it’s kinda become some sort of trend idk it’s dumb as fuck honestly. Clown behavior honestly from all around the cod community lately… smh…
The cheating thing is killing the come up of new players Jurjii got falsely accused by both crim and Havok. Now I love crim, and Havok. But I did watch jurjiis videos including the almost an hr long one. As soon as a pro hackusates it's like a curse, makes ppl harder to want to play with you Havok didn't even want to see the proof I understand they don't have time for all of this but it effects newcomers badly
I get the bait if he’s actually legit, because it gets people talking about him and if he’s actually legit then he has a better chance of getting picked up somewhere or grow as a creator. It’s hard to get recognized nowadays with cheating at an all time high.
This may be an even dumber take than the bait itself. If you’re good enough, you’ll be recognized. All this does is ruin your reputation and taint your name.
Bro listen carefully-only way pro players can progress and train to be better are when playing against good players who cheat,there are no cheaters anyway in cdl… But for us immortalls we need good anti cheat!!!
It depends on if you get carried or not too. There’s still bad players at those ranks tho lol. The hidden MMR is annoying af, I was getting hacked on in silver 😂
There’s so little to watch without league matches right now, I can’t blame him. I tend to watch or listen to alot of the same videos/podcasts while I draw so I’m sure Rab spends plenty of time editing
I was becoming aware of the pro scene via Scump/FormaL etc. just before the CDL but didn’t really get deep into it until that Huntsmen year. I probably would have thrown down with the boys in challengers because that would have been my only frame of reference.
Have you guys heard about the download for CS 2 that works against aimbot? It is something that a non-cheating player can download and it makes the cheaters not be able to keep their aim on the player that has the anti-aimbot downloaded. I think that we need to develop this for Cod
I actually just watched a video last night about that, and I agree with you! It also does things like cancel bomb defuses & makes you accidentally shootyour teammates if your team ever steps in front of you. It’s actually genius
1) solving the cheating problem is easy, turn off cross-play and have console only leaderboards. The hackers can have their pc leaderboards. 2) hecz has no right to a spot as he sold optic. He didn’t care about it anymore and wanted money to go travel. No reason to act butthurt afterwards. And don’t forget, talk is cheap… you can always say I would’be done this and that
NPC ass response saying he wasn't entitled to a spot. OpTic literally WAS (kinda still is) competitive cod. The only reason Kotick had any product to pitch to his buddies is because of people like Hecz, if anybody is entitled to a spot he should be first.
THE ANTI-CHEAT is working "PERFECTLY"! 👍 You are all using cheats, be honest! Only two players are not cheating in the CDL & they haven't been born yet. Just trolling😂😂😂😂
It’s so damn easy. Move everything back to console and don’t do pc crossplay, this would exclusively kill pc cod but who cares, cod should be on console. I would buy a console just to play cod if they made me. It’s so simple. Why are people so incompetent it’s hella frustrating
bc 120 fps in 2025 is terrible.... no one wants to play on a console dude, theres way more or equal to the amount of ppl on ps and xbox as pc, so theyd lose huge money
Let be honest the CDL is boring. League games boring. Events need to have more teams and if Scump, formal, Crim, Karma suddenly started playing challengers now, they'd have more viewers based on the entertainment factor. Damn I would prefer watching Nadeshot, Bigtymer, Scump and a fourth just having a laugh in challengers.
Yeah that dude definitely got caught and is trying to play it off after with the “it’s a joke guys!!!”
I strive for Hecz level of pettiness
What a stupid comment, if Hecz didnt get into the league he shouldnt have gone to challengers and made it as popular as he could, Brain dead..
@@jaskbi yeah your comment is pretty stupid
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jaskbiactual NPC spotted
@@jaskbi Found Bobby Kotick's burner account
I still remember when Hecz said the CDL or Activision or whoever was in control of people buying the org spots “you don’t fit the type of owner we’re trying to sell to” like that’s insane, I’m glad Hecz is gonna be petty to those corporate greedy freaks.
Officer I didn’t aim a real gun at you , it was plastic get baited ahh vibe
Falcon Scump against Optic lmao imagine the views that would pull
nun because it woulkdve never happened
@@Dakota-z7gyou have a great imagination buddy. Congrats on nothing
@@R-Hoffy 😭😂
@@Dakota-z7g Are you okay brother? lol
Who cares bro, why are people so obsessed with optic and scump still
His loyalty to H3CZ and vice versa surely worth more than a contract lol
100% hacker 6:00
COD IS RUINED AND SHIT NOW AND IT HURTS ME!!!
That would have been absolutely diabolical 🤣 at the end of the day the league always wants play politics, Hecz would have given them a taste of their own medicine.
The league for sure would have had to play nice right away to get the numbers right. I love it.
Hecz could have definitely paid them the same salaries as he did for them in the league, but the issue is challengers don’t have near the prize pools event after event like the cdl. Thats a lot of money to miss out on if you’re a competitive team.
Idk man the rumored (and some confirmed) salaries at the start of the CDL were insane. I think enable said he was making 300k/yr I personally think it would be hard for any team, even optic to maintain those inflated salaries for 5 players (+coach & sub) regardless of if they're in challengers or CDL.
@mkwsoxfan I mean didn’t he pay them enough for them to play for huntsmen?
@@landon94 yes but that's with league prize pools, non-split viewership and other immeasurable factors. If scump had a team in challengers the league viewership would undoubtedly be split (my estimate would be 60-40 with 40% watching the CDL) could huntsman (not optic) afford 5 inflated salaries in a smaller market than the CDL I'm not so sure
LET THE CIRCUIT GO BACK TO CONSOLE PLS
If you want to play ranked. I feel every top 250 player should have to do PC and or console checks. Otherwise there is no recognition and they remove your name and profile. Every cheater baits they are cheating that way when they are caught they have an automatic fall back excuse.
Just go back to console. Fixed
Console is forced to play with pc my bro no cross play option
they need to implement the same system as valorant or cs, they have an (invasive)anti cheat. that means they have premision to check the console/pc for cheat systems. and not only top250 but every rank because they start to see a lot of cheaters in diamond already
As someone who watches a lot of comp for other esports, it's across all games. Cheating has become normalized it's absolutely insane.
Imagine how crazy it would have been for scump/formal to be winning in challengers, bringing more eyes to that scene than the actual league. I wonder who would have joined them on a team because anyone sensible (arcitys/envoy/gunless/prestini) would NOT have agreed to play for the huntsman in challengers just because hecz was sending a message 😅
It blows my mind that I wouldn’t be surprised that the guy caught with cheats possibly “baited” for attention. If that’s the case, (which I don’t believe) then he’s putting a target on his back just to get a reaction. The problem is that people are this mentally unwell these days, that we actually consider that being a possible scenario. People are just desperate for approval more now than ever.
Lmaoooooo I’m glad I’m done with cod cause Jesus the cheaters aren’t going anywhere and they’re everywhere in cod 😂😂
Scump instead of Huke on Empire. They would have won everything they played that year
It’s doesn’t matter! He is guilty by his own hand! He should be reset or banned….period!
I don't get why people act like cheating is only a cod problem... no game without kernel level anti cheat will ever be able to combat the problem... kernel level anti cheat is a whole other problem within itself but cod, apex, siege, CS, even comp scenes like assetto corsa and f1 have cheating allegations every single big event. No one can work this out.. not just Activision
idk if you knew this. But this is a COD pro news channel
CS hasnt had a true cheating accusation at a high level in a long time.
@buggg5750 ... cs2 is absolutely plagued with Cheaters😂 there's never been a true cheating allegation in the cdl besides maybe wake which was realistically a meme... so your point is kinda moot... the discussion was surrounding Cheaters in ranked... which plagues most other online games...
@@great-catsI don't know if you're aware but he was talking about ranked Cheaters like its solely Activisions downfall... hense why I said not 1 publisher outwith riot with kernel level anti cheat can stop cheating outright...
@@great-catsthe hypocrisy of your bio to then leave this comment is special...
Honestly the maps are terribly made in this game sometimes trucks won’t load and I can see people through walls the entire game, but people think I’m hacking but it’s really not my fault the game gave me that advantage because it’s wouldn’t load up the map properly, and other times people forget they can be pinged by a teammate, also idk why people think I’m hacking if I’m in plat 2
No way super competitive guys like Formal and Gunless would accept playing in Challengers
I think gunless/envoy/arcitys would have gone elsewhere (probably Seattle like they originally were rumored to) which would mean slacked/apathy/karma would have not been on Seattle (hypothetically). I could see a team of karma/scump/apathy/slacked and MAYBE formal playing in challengers if they had no other options
I heard scump nearly streamed this month.
Bahahahaha "I can't believe we're analysing this" ....
they just need to focus on cheaters and nothing else before anything. just take a break and head back to MW3 with the better maps with the b06 updates and guns/movement. i think he was actually cheating and had a back up in mind showing everyone that they had a back up lmao.
Hecz high off that pine park 🤣
Hecz just doesn’t have the money to bully these corps like that…. Even if he went through with his idea of strengthening challengers , challengers was still owned and operated by the CDL. All they would do is put more money in their pockets by strengthening the less viewed streams all while the main vod gets decently similar numbers
Optics more than half of cdl viewership
Pissed on maestro in vanguard
It’s doesn’t matter! He is guilty by his own hand! He should be reset or banned….period!
It’s like Bobby Poff admitting to paying people to grind “only camo”. Too bad, so sad, if you are making millions playing a video game and risk it to cheat for camo’s, shame on you!
2019 challenger hecz team: Scump, Formal, Karma, Dashy and Doug(Crim beef would be too recent). 100% take out the league
Slow news day when we’re talking about some random dude that’s “cheat baiting” people.
It’s weird but I’ve been seeing a lot of people that are playing like WZ or MP streaming on YT when I get caught up scrolling through shorts they either have bouncing red boxes going around like you have walls but it’s fake and it’s kinda become some sort of trend idk it’s dumb as fuck honestly. Clown behavior honestly from all around the cod community lately… smh…
The cheating thing is killing the come up of new players
Jurjii got falsely accused by both crim and Havok. Now I love crim, and Havok. But I did watch jurjiis videos including the almost an hr long one. As soon as a pro hackusates it's like a curse, makes ppl harder to want to play with you
Havok didn't even want to see the proof
I understand they don't have time for all of this but it effects newcomers badly
I get the bait if he’s actually legit, because it gets people talking about him and if he’s actually legit then he has a better chance of getting picked up somewhere or grow as a creator. It’s hard to get recognized nowadays with cheating at an all time high.
This may be an even dumber take than the bait itself. If you’re good enough, you’ll be recognized. All this does is ruin your reputation and taint your name.
Well no one’s touching a guy with allegations attached to his name lol. Dumb ass stunt if it is
hecz is insanely delusional, respect tbh
He's smart enough to know though that OpTic fans would believe him and his side rather than the truth.
Nah I can see it happening with the optic fans. There loyal to deatj
CS has had a few pro's cheat in tourneys, at least Cod isn't like that
Homeboy is cooked. Just don't cheat and you cannot get caught.
Great content.
Bro listen carefully-only way pro players can progress and train to be better are when playing against good players who cheat,there are no cheaters anyway in cdl…
But for us immortalls we need good anti cheat!!!
I must be ass cause im platinum and havent seen a hacker 😂
Yeah you are. Once you hit diamond or crimson it’s unplayable
It depends on if you get carried or not too. There’s still bad players at those ranks tho lol. The hidden MMR is annoying af, I was getting hacked on in silver 😂
You don’t need to spend 10 seconds describing the Ms mate. We aren’t spastics 😂
bruh. this dude is always watching everything lmao.
There’s so little to watch without league matches right now, I can’t blame him.
I tend to watch or listen to alot of the same videos/podcasts while I draw so I’m sure Rab spends plenty of time editing
I think cod will be dead within the next 20 years
Has 4 Eyes apologized for the baseless accusations against Pred and him possibly being kicked for gambling?
hes covering news and leaks not accusing people of committing federal crimes you donut
I was becoming aware of the pro scene via Scump/FormaL etc. just before the CDL but didn’t really get deep into it until that Huntsmen year. I probably would have thrown down with the boys in challengers because that would have been my only frame of reference.
Feels Weird being this early
Have you guys heard about the download for CS 2 that works against aimbot? It is something that a non-cheating player can download and it makes the cheaters not be able to keep their aim on the player that has the anti-aimbot downloaded. I think that we need to develop this for Cod
I actually just watched a video last night about that, and I agree with you!
It also does things like cancel bomb defuses & makes you accidentally shootyour teammates if your team ever steps in front of you.
It’s actually genius
1) solving the cheating problem is easy, turn off cross-play and have console only leaderboards. The hackers can have their pc leaderboards. 2) hecz has no right to a spot as he sold optic. He didn’t care about it anymore and wanted money to go travel. No reason to act butthurt afterwards. And don’t forget, talk is cheap… you can always say I would’be done this and that
Didn't care anymore? You are delusional
NPC ass response saying he wasn't entitled to a spot. OpTic literally WAS (kinda still is) competitive cod. The only reason Kotick had any product to pitch to his buddies is because of people like Hecz, if anybody is entitled to a spot he should be first.
THE ANTI-CHEAT is working "PERFECTLY"! 👍
You are all using cheats, be honest!
Only two players are not cheating in the CDL & they haven't been born yet.
Just trolling😂😂😂😂
since crim i play another game
I enjoy OpTic content but to call their content compelling is crazy. Trivia videos keep H3CZ on the edge of his seat apparently
Love their content but imo ZooMaa’s content is waaaay better
Take a shot everytime he says "the rest is history" please find new sayings
Go take a cold shower mate
It’s so damn easy. Move everything back to console and don’t do pc crossplay, this would exclusively kill pc cod but who cares, cod should be on console. I would buy a console just to play cod if they made me. It’s so simple. Why are people so incompetent it’s hella frustrating
bc 120 fps in 2025 is terrible.... no one wants to play on a console dude, theres way more or equal to the amount of ppl on ps and xbox as pc, so theyd lose huge money
@@joshnorris8970more than they are now with no one wanting to play it?
@@Seven3o5 they made their money dude, game already sold record amoutn of copies. they could care less about the lack of players now
@ there are also battle passes and skins that people buy if they play the game.
Tactical crab 🦀
Wild
Imagine the optic dynasty reformed in challengers cdl viewer should would’ve been cut in half minimum
More like a third
Honestly if hex had the cdl its in a way better spot then currently dude has a mind for the esport
Would have been hilarious seeing the beta streams having 5-10x the amount of viewers that the main channel would have got.
Scump makes more streaming so he wouldn't care
THAT PLAN MAY ACTUALLY WORK NOW MORE THAN EVER ...
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maestro been around for years doesn't hack
maybe just maybe, he’s been cheating for years?
Let be honest the CDL is boring. League games boring. Events need to have more teams and if Scump, formal, Crim, Karma suddenly started playing challengers now, they'd have more viewers based on the entertainment factor. Damn I would prefer watching Nadeshot, Bigtymer, Scump and a fourth just having a laugh in challengers.
Dad i need some money asap. Mom sent you the paperwork for child support. You make too much money to not give some to me. Kisses and hugs daddy
Aches is dogshit, always has been, just came here to say it
Aches was godlike for years. Can’t rewrite history
4 views in 8 seconds? Yeah this channel is dead
Cringe. Dumb. Overused. Not funny
Downvote… Rab is our CoD Daddy