The FALL of OceanGate | This is INSANE
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- On June 18th, 2023, the Oceangate Expedition lost contact with its deep-sea vessel the Titan sub, a submarine designed to carry five people, while it was en route undersea towards the Titanic wreckage. The individuals on board were Stockton Rush, Paul-Henri Nargeolet, Shahzada Dawood, Suleman Dawood, and Hamish Harding.
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The fact that the 19yr old was absolutely TERRIFIED and did NOT WANT to go, and only did to appease his father and not to upset him, esp on Fathers Day, is the most tragic part of this entire situation.
Absolutely correct, a tragedy indeed :(
I feel so badly for that boy. 😞
Please take care to realise the carbon rod requires a tensile pressure of 26.44 Pounds/Sq inch of crayton and atock shipments. Basically, this means if you wire the cromop scale when testing the yonk stern at depths below 130m you will need to acquire stretched capable trited hydrofoam whilst helping the tritelp emerge at the correct temperature. If the mercury filament fails when reaching -20 Kelvin I would opt for the Dregro srometer when tethering the andridge motor.
@@italkedtobarzini4015Neeerrrrd!!
Yeah, he actually seemed like a real nice kid too. Not a dbag like a lot of other rich kids. RIP. 😕🙏
I'll never forget what an old Navy man once told me; "The Sea is not evil or mean, son; she's indifferent, and that's much much worse."
Very true... the ocean is the most powerful force on the entire planet...
I am retired Navy HT, I am a surface warfare sailor, been on subs just for repair but I came up with this saying that the sea is the big three.
The sea is
Unforgiving
Unpredictable
Uncontrollable
Excellent quote, I got a real sense of this when.I nearly drowned trapped in the waves along a rock face, my life death struggle meant nothing...
@@swamp365Thank you for your service!!!❤
@@tfptravel.food.peace.3788 your welcome 🙏 thank you 🙏
Stockton Rush basically said safety is wasteful and that he could achieve a level of safety by breaking rules. The sea said respect me or die. The sea won. The sea always wins.
Ahem, that's The Sea Is Always Right!
To ignore or treat lightly the power of water is not a smart move.
i still dont get PH Nargeolet getting onboard that vehicle, with all the experience he had onboard many different subs
Ismay back in 1912 said the …same about the safety boats. That is why the Titanic had so few. In the middle of this tragedy, the words of Rush sound so arrogant. Not to mention the name of the submersible, « titan ». A noun vs. adjective « titanic ». Hubris and hubris again.
I gotta agree with Stockton. We as a society have no stomach anymore for any kind of risk whatsoever.
Im an engineer who designs pressure vessels and have used advanced materials. This makes me very angry. As a commercial operation ie providing a paying guest they have to provide a duty of care to those in their charge. They failed the basics. This was not pushing the boundaries of innovation this was pushing the boundaries of safety. The company and is directors and management should be charged with manslaughter. They knew the risks that the paying guests were undertaking but did not disclose all of these risks. I watched the UA-camr’s video of the test dive. They lost comms and lost propulsion on a test dive. There did not seem to be redundancy in the design or systems. Quite simply the pressure vessel was the wrong shape, wrong material and not even rated to the operational depth. They used window material rated to 1345m and operated that way outside the manufacturers safety factors. They also had nothing inside this craft that was fire rated or had fire suppression systems. These were not adventurers they were people misinformed who gambled their lives in a craft that would eventually fail.
Titanic roulette ...
Linkedin seems to have scrubbed Ocenagates chief of engineering Tony Nissens page . he had some weird stuff in his history. Project Wanderlust for example.
Agreed but if we being accurate here, they had a fire extinguisher and smoke mask… but who’s paying attention
Stockton was a troubled person who built a booby trap to take his own life, and conned others into joining him...without remorse
I agree 100 percent. Just like with the covid vaccines.
You have to admire the man that spoke up got fired because he's worried about people's safety inside that submersible nobody's ambition should get innocent people killed
Inspirational
sadly, that happens far too often. Companies do not like anyone throwing a spanner in the works. They don't want to hear about anything negative!! Good for him, for having the morals and honesty to Stand up to the company. It says a lot about the company, that they were willing to hide things, and gloss over anything that would have been an issue. They should never have been offering trips for money.
An engineer with integrity. Probably got replaced by a cheap youngster who he could boss around.
the super-rich don't like to hear the words 'no' or that they are 'wrong'
@@autarko sadly, that is what happened. He hired young engineers, instead of ones that had lots of experience over decades.
James cameron pointed out something so interesting .... the similarities between titan and titankc involve the ego of the men in charge. Titanic captain was repeatedly warned about ice. Titan pilot was repeatedly warned about safety concerns from people consulting and even his own employees. Both blatantly ignored and couldve been avoided.
The titanic was the safest ship and extremely well built; it was more so a freak accident that lead to the Titanic sinking, whilst the CEO of Titan built the most shoddy thing ever
The titanic was so well built it could've smashed into an iceberg head on and survived; it got super unlucky it scraped an iceberg and got over 6 flood proof bulkheads exposed, thus sinking it
Ego of people. What, women don't have one? Come on
Capt Smith knew of the ice and even took the southern route to avoid the bulk of it.
@@pyropulseIXXI Agreed, the main problem with titanic was that not enough lifeboats for all the onboard souls existed, and the lifeboats that were filled most of them were under the capacity of 65. Some of them didnt even have 20 souls on the boats, typically the very wealthy high class passengers with 1st class tickets would be placed in a boat with 65 capacity and only have 25 on board. Funny thing is, these lifeboats on board were actually more than was required by law.
There was enough boats to save about 1100 people but only 700 people were boarded. There also was a ship that could have made it to the titanic before it sank called the SS Californian that ignored the rocket signals. The captain would forever be disgraced for this negligence, as rockets were not an internationally approved emergency signal at the time. i may be wrong but the SS Californian was at most 30 miles away from the titanic while it took on water and could have arrived and saved most if not every passenger.
The titanics job was to not sink while in water. It accomplished this role but the fog and the iceberg being seen at the last minute took the titanic outside of its operating envelope (not designed to scrape against icebergs). As far as if there was no icebergs, the titanic would have done a fantastic job. The problem with the Titan submarine is the fact that it was not properly designed for the operating envelope that it would be used for, its a submarine that has an insufficient hull
@@GlossaME lmao what???? I didn't speak about men in general, stop being so sensitive. They just both happened to be men. Lmao
"Safety is wasteful" belongs on the list of famous last words. True, they weren't his last words, but it explains a hell of a lot about what happened.
Many things SR said qualify as famous last words. Most things he said.
Safety is Wasteful should be on his headstone 🤬
I would classify rush as incompetent at best and probably more accurately as a dangerous lunatic that murdered 4 people.
Right up there with "Not even God can sink this ship."
There is a evey old saying that "pride goth before the fall.", and "tempt not ( or put to the test) the LORD YOUR GOD!".
In my experience wealthy powerful people do not understand the concept of “no.” The ideas of “You can’t have this” and “You can’t do that” don’t exist for them. I would guess that not one of them (except maybe the poor son) ever considered that any warnings or risks applied to them personally. They set themselves above, and thought themselves exempt. That’s the worst kind of stupid.
My husband always says, "you can't fix stupid".
Nah, they are thrill seekers. For them they already have everything, what's gonna happened in a unapproved submersible, paid 250k for it.
he could have run an ultrasound test on the hull, but he used an untested method instead
I'm sure they considered their safety. Rich has nothing to do with it. But there were subs who had made the journey before and that is enough to convince most people.
@@dragonninja3655your delusional bud i agree to the blokes comments and rich people think they above everything and everyone
One correction- the sub was not state of the art, it was experimental.
it was art, didnt say what kind of art, a guillotine or an electric chair is a kind of art too
@@Gamepak no, he clearly says state of the art submersible not 30 seconds in this isnt a debate.
Exactly! ‘State of the art’…? It looked like something cobbled together off scrap heap challenge!
@@moonstar9101 it was something one could make in their shed. nothing was state of art
Yes, it was experimental, that is why it should not have been used for entertaining tourists...
I feel bad for the 19 year old. He didn’t want to go, he just didn’t want to disappoint his father. He had an entire life left to lead and its been stolen from him.
Dumb
I know, risking your life so you can look out of a tiny window at a rusty old wreck..
i was thinking the same.....I hope he and the other passengers died without knowing what's happening- I had nightmares imagining being down in this tuna can knowing I hav to die...horror.
@@martaiswatchingyoutube5063 Unlikely, they probably didn't even realize there was a problem.. When implosions happen they happen in 1000s of a second and you die instantly..
what do you guys do? read people magazine and eat at wendys til the end of time?
Essentially it was a homemade submarine created by someone that didn't actually know what he was doiñg, but was a great salesmen.
Wasn't it held together with epoxy? That's GLUE, man.
AND THEY ALL HAD SOOOOO MUCH money they could get away without having to have ANYONE step in and say " NO NO NO" They could pay off any and everyone and so in the end the big egos and big money came back to bite them in the @ss. My heart goes out to the 19 year old son.
It's sad how one man's ambition took 4 extra lives
I still find its lack of a tether, astounding. It's like how can I commit suicide in the worst possible way?
@@ferociousgumby thats what keeps the space shuttle tiles on also. its not elmers glue ya know.
I just find it astonishing that Rush could sell this package to two veteran deep sea explorers, into going aboard this death contraption ..I can understand Dawood but the other two were experts in the field…he must had been a silver tongued devil to charm those two gentlemen into taking the trip
The Titan had already taken 2 or 3 other voyages down. The issue was the carbon fiber hull wasn't inspected for stress or ever tested & certified for a life expectancy of the hull.
I'm pretty sure you're right. There was a different father and son that was supposed to go on the sub, but they backed out due to the safety issues. They said they met up with Stockton in Vegas, and Stockton was trying to convince them to go using high pressures sales techniques. Pretty much everyone who knew Stockton before this, who publicly made comments, said he had a strong "I know everything" and a "I'm the smartest guy in the room" attitude. Arrogance can easily be confused with confidence, and those that knew him recognized the arrogance. That's why the first father and son backed out, because they already knew him.
Yeah, Id say.
The "veteran deep ocean explorers" are not really experts on the construction of deep ocean submersibles (they should be but not necessarily), just like pilots are not usually experts on the construction of airplanes. They are just trained to operate these vehicles in certain ways. Then there is also something called common sense.
Agreed. That was one of the first things i thought of as well.
The worst tragedies are those that are preventable.
Good thing they are alive!
The only tragedy here is the kid. Billionaires dying is good and cool, and I frankly can't be sad about a guy who would fire the only engineer telling him he was going to kill people, getting himself killed.
Jep especially the ones that we already learnt the lessons in 1963. If they had followed those ancient rules they'd be alive so we don't really learn much new either which is the one positive thing about accidents.
I know right... who didn't pack the snorkles🤿🤿🤿🤿🤿
Well said.
Considering they fired and sued the only person with any common sense in their company, I can’t feel bad for the CEO.
I wish he had not gone with them so he could face all the backlash, lawsuits and prison time
@@uggggggghhhhhnaw, he was where he would face consequences. They all signed waivers and were in international waters. It’s incredibly unlikely he would have faced even any monetary consequences much less legal ones. 🤷♀️
@@uggggggghhhhh i hope the families of the dead can sue his estate for conning them into this literal death trap.
who that?
He was a narcissists
I cannot say how disgusting Rush was! HE BOASTED about taking short cuts and was WARNED by MANY! But because they did not go along with his approach, he called them in the box! Well sometimes when you step out of the box, you fall of a cliff to your death!
Rush was a greedy recklesss cocky person. With him it was ALL about using cheaper supplies so he could pocket the $$. i would not have gone down there even for 0.50 cents. Fuk dat. i feel ZERO sorrow for his loss. RIP to the other 4 victims. IF i was the adrenaline junkie id go on James Camerons submersible. but that aint even gonna happen!
Well, if there would be no 4 victim, it would be an amazing Darwin award death.
I understand thinking outside the box when it comes to office work, but not when it comes to gambling with human lives. At the very least, it’s better to do it on your own and not involve civilians, like what the Wright Brothers did.
@@beanpasteposts Thinking outside the box even can work, as long, as you don't ignore security and safety rules, and include 3rd party members for safety checks.
The guy is a damn fraud like Trevor Milton and Elizabeth Holmes. They use their white privilege to get away with crap like that.
The fact that he was laughed at in his face when he showed the controller should have given him some signs.
Rush knew MUCH more than the other passengers. I don't think they realized how much he ignored safety warnings...
He unfortunately Rushed it…
@@thoryr dont rush or you get crushed, ancient viking proverb. legit, fact checked.
He did more than rush it. He disregarded all sorts of safety rules.
Rush is responsible for this tragedy. He was a classic narcissist
He always ignored
The Titanic wreck should be a reminder that arrogance, pride, and not prioritizing people's safety lead to deaths of thousands of people. Unfortunately, people never learn. History once again repeated itself.
The Vasa was built in 1628, and sunk in like 20 minutes due to the rushed building job at the insistence of the people at the top. This was hundreds of years before Titanic, and ocean liners still haven’t learned.
@@tiahnarodriguez3809 To be fair, Vasa was also before mathematical modeling. With a new, much heavier, weapon type.
The titanic was the safest and most well built ship of its era
@@tiahnarodriguez3809😊a
@@pyropulseIXXIthe mistake was the captain full speeding in an ice field..
Titan vessel was constructed of Carbon Fiber that is a solid polymer composed of thousands of strands of fibers held in place with an epoxy adhesive. I knew that thing wasn't going to last for many dives. In contrast James Cameron took numerous deep dives ( I believe 63) some deeper that the Titanic in an all steel submersible and it held up without any problems.
meh yeah but it's tensile strength is higher then it's compressive strength which was it's weakness for being used in a submersible plain and simple
The fact that he is known as a "Maverick" engineer is enough for me to be a huge red flag in itself. Also for the father to pressure his son into doing something so dangerous without accreditation shows he only thought of himself, not only willing to put himself at risk but his own son. What kind of father would put his son's life at such risk for a 20 minute adventure knowing the danger!? Disgusting!
"Don't worry, Son. Even if we die, at least I'll die knowing I took you with me."🤡🤦
Absolutely disgusting. A truly vile excuse of a father.😡
This whole thing is a tragedy which could easily have been avoided.
Better to listen to mom than dad. He is over rated!
@@timothyvanhoeck233 I couldn't have said it better myself!
The titanium end caps were held on by EPOXY!!! Yeah, the stuff you use to build models.
Only by ignoring other people’s primary needs, one can quickly become a billionaire. Having empathy with people is detrimental to amassing a lot of money quickly.
The CEO clearly had delusions of grandeur and was winging it. I'm surprised the other passengers trusted him in spite of the well known issues.
People put far too much trust in wealthy people simply because they're rich. They seem to think they're gods for having accumulated huge amounts of money.
All the money in the world cannot buy you a brain.
@@heronimousbrapson863 To be fair, they might've just assumed that someone would've shut them down if they were doing things incompetently. If you're not an expert in what rules and regulations there are for a given thing, in modern society you just tend to assume that there are some and that some absolute clown didn't somehow have the resources and pull to go so far as building and launching a sub to go 2 miles under the ocean. I know they signed a waiver that said something to the effect that it wasn't certified, but once again, they might've just thought they were getting a sort of early adopters first dibs on something that was going through all of the necessary development and research by competent people on it's way to becoming certified.
In the waiver where it says it's not a certified submersible is when I would have said "No, I am not going on that and I'd like a refund." Obviously being certified doesn't eliminate the chances of it sinking BUT it does mean that there was rigorous testing done by 3rd parties and gave it a pass. You can obviously tell that this death trap would have never been certified which is why it was put in the waiver.
He also built a 2 seat experimental aircraft. I don't know if it had to meet a certain standard? He seems to be rather dismissive of any safety measures. Should never have taken paying passengers on the ridiculous submersible
Stockton clearly didn't respect the reality of cycle fatigue. He figured if it made it down there once it would do it a million times. It only took 3 or 4 trips down to fatigue the hull enough to implode.
Yep. That's the reality of it. Every dip, weakened the ship and since he's a selfish prick, never fixed or did his due diligence
Exactly
It never made it down to the that level every time they tested it they had to comeback up after just 2,000 meters, The Titanic sits 3,800 meters. So they weren't even close to getting to the Titanic yet he went ahead with the trip. The people who tested it said the Sub started to show signs around 1,500 meters and they were unable to go any further than 2000 meters, The Titan was at 3,500 meters when it imploded. The sub was probably cracking and warning signals had to be going off.
he thought that his Disney Ride can would last? geeze what a Moron
It made about a dozen trips to the Titanic before it finally gave.
As a former RNLI crewman it never failed to amaze me that innocent individuals can be drawn to the sea and have faith in a so called skipper who doesnt take safety seriously!
These kinds of subjects are really interesting to me. No pleasure in death, but the sheer anxiety of being somewhere where absolutely no help is possible. I’ve been on a Mount Everest binge. Shits crazy.
I have been getting into cave diving deaths. That shits crazy too.
@@dilligaf1009 haha, funny you mention that, same here like a month ago. Terrifying!!
The hubris of Stockton Rush cost himself and 4 others their lives. There is a difference between taking risks and disregarding safety. To fire the safety guy who is telling you things you don't want to hear is beyond ironic. 🤨
yeah well when you do not care about any level of safety that is what happens when you make it with a play station controller and install a thruster backwards I would never go on such a shoddy built sub🤣
And then in the submersible he heard things again he didn't want to hear: the sounds of it starting to implode
It's murder as far as I'm concerned.
he was greedy. i bet he was thinking that stupid move would save him money. this rush guy sounds like he was a real money grubber. a greedy delusional man who just wanted to make money. what type of man decides thousands of pounds of pressure would not eventually crush pretty much everything? this guy. man. he is like a drunk guy who kills himself and all his friends drunk driving. this man was a con artist.
Rush was a garbage person with a narcissist cancerous personality. He was a megalomanic
I work in personal Injury law, including wrongful death. Waivers don’t matter in regards to negligence. If that vessel was made with evidence of blatant disregard for the occupants lives and safety, then the family can sue. The same when doctors get sued, even though you sign a waiver when getting a surgery.
I don't understand how negligence works legally. In this situation would the company be liable or could it be on the engineer who designed the hull? There is so much of a grey area scientifically it just comes down to how well the case is presented.
You're the scum of the earth Mr lawyer guy. They all got in the thing voluntarily and the families are all billionaires already. Let alone the fact that the CEO was in the sub when they all died. You only give a shit because as a lawyer you'd be taking a large cut of any settlement.
@@autarko you can have multiple defendants, and remove some as a case goes further into litigation. I wouldn’t have the answer to your question since I don’t have any documents, emails, vessel parts, etc. to look over. That’s their attorneys job to investigate and see if they have a case.
But what choice of law applies given the location of the accident?
Why don't you prioritize real news instead of focusing on these idiotic thrill-seekers who got what they deserve! There are nearly 700 people feared dead after a fishing boat capsized off the coast of Greece, including over 200 children. Yet, there is zero news coverage or assistance from anyone. They were left to die when they could have been saved. It's sickening how all the resources were wasted trying to rescue these clowns!
What Rush didn't seem to understand is that the willingness to take risks is NOT synonymous with recklessness. While he seemed to consider thumbing his nose at safety to be a positive characteristic, the truly great adventurers embraced safety as a means to mitigate the risks.
Yes, there is a calculated risk, and an ignorant risk.
He chose the latter.
When you are at that depth approximately 100,000 Thousand Tons (not kilograms or pounds) of pressure is being forced on the submersible. They died so fast their brain didn't even had a chance to register that they are about to die. It takes your spinal nervous system 0.40 nano-seconds to register any pain, they died in 0.20 nano-seconds. This was honestly the best option cause option 2 was running out of oxygen slowly and that would've been infinitely painful. My heartfelt prayers go out to them and their family.
That's dying. Many agree they heard the cracks from the fiber like a splitting or eggshell break and without a doubt heard the alarm going off. They were trying to come back up. They knew. And that's what makes it more horrific.
@@TKUltra971 what is also terrifuing is probally they were in pitch black darkness unless they still had there light sticks going when and if the carbon was breaking cracking
@@user-kf8ry8qr9h Why would they have lost power before hand? A power failure was just a guess that was proposed when we didn't know it imploded.
@@TKUltra971 You dont know that.
None of these numbers are correct... but I guess the point still is.
“The bodies may never be recovered”
Bruh, what bodies? They were completely destroyed underwater.
From biology to physics in milliseconds, not enough time for the human brain to register.
Implosion goo
You ever heard of the byford dolphin incident? Obviously not. The same thing happened. And there were bodies. They were mangled and in small pieces but they were recognizable as human body parts. You can look at the photos of the autopsies online. They don't turn to goo or disappear. This ain't a movie. With that said, no one's gonna find any body parts. The oceans too big
the force of the implosion is like the empire state building made of lead falls on you from a decent height. there is not much left..maybe the shoes..
@@chriz9959They were barefoot
The tops of the world's highest mountains are "unforgiving."
EDIT: yes, exposed to the Death Zone, a person *can* die
The bottom of the sea is better classified as "incompatable with human life."
EDIT: exposed to the Midnight Zone, a person *will* die.
Significant difference.
It is not a tourist destination.
Nope sorry they had a immediate insta death that was painless.
No time to react
@@jeremy3824doesn't mean they didn't know this would've been impossible to survive xD
The tops of the world's highest mountains is known as the death zone.
They all signed waivers knowing they could die man..its not for tourists.Its a risky adventure with a great reward if completed.
Why don't you prioritize real news instead of focusing on these idiotic thrill-seekers who got what they deserve! There are nearly 700 people feared dead after a fishing boat capsized off the coast of Greece, including over 200 children. Yet, there is zero news coverage or assistance from anyone. They were left to die when they could have been saved. It's sickening how all the resources were wasted trying to rescue these clowns!
Missing some detail here. The hydrophone network heard the implosion on Sunday when they lost contact. The whole media circus was a bit weird but I guess the coastguard was reluctant to actually say they knew it imploded until they had the visual confirmation
An extra thing I would like to add is that the titanic sits at around 13500 feet (4000m) and the Titan can withstand going down to 14000ft.
I don’t know about anyone else but if I was to do down I would want a larger margin than just 500ft.
True. Although, that's what they said. Since they never truly performed tests on the submarine, I wonder how they came up with that number.
@@line_bgo yeah. I wanna see how they did the math without testing and certification and then put it up on their website
@@line_bgoright? I havent even heard that they did even ONE unmanned mission when you think they would of wanted to do at least several if not numerous unmanned missions before risking human life in the vessel.
It’s called “engineering” that’s how they came up with the number. Rush failed to accept that that number may only be good for one or two dives due to cyclical failure
Also another dad and son passed on this trip after the son expressed a deep fear . The owner offered to lower the cost to 150 thousand each but they said no thanks and that's how the other dad and son got to go on this trip 😞 then to learn the other son didn't want to go either but did to please his dad...so heartbreaking😢
Names? How come no one has mentioned this?
Last name was bloom … jay bloom and his son sean i think… just saw the bees story
😢
@@ShadyBooty There's a CNN interview with them on UA-cam. I think their tickets when to the other father and son. :(
Don't feel sorry for someone who's lived the high life their entire life.
Why are there so many billionaire bootlickers here, it's ridiculous.
I feel terrible for the guy that tried to warn the CEO about the safety issues surrounding this vessel. He must be feeling horrible having been fully aware of the plethora of problems and being powerless to stop this inevitable tragedy.
The CEO knew also
@@AJdet-2 and didn't care... He made that very clear. Narcissist woke psychos know better than us peasants.
He should feel fully vindicated and not one bit guilty about anything because he lost his job trying to protect the CEO bully and others from exactly this situation. Nature doesn’t care about DIVERSITY hires.
It's not on him. He tried. He shouldn't feel guilty.
It's all on them. They knew and went ahead anyway. All for money.
I too have these exact feelings every time I try to warn a socialist democrat of the inevitable destruction of the economy whenever they vote this way. Same situation.
In regards to the bodies being recovered, it isn't possible; There is essentially nothing left of the five men to recover due to the implosion, followed by an explosion, and the extreme depth that it took place.
stockton rush's arrogance and disregard for safety was absolutely shocking and in the end it literally backfired on him the sad part of it was is that the other four innocent souls also lost their lives
I still can't believe veteran Diver Paul Nargeolet with 30+ dives to Titanic over 30 years, trusted this thing
Exactly, it makes no sense to disregard safety the way he did
@@tony--james exactly as a veteran with all that experience you would think he would have had more sense than to take such a risk in that death trap
Who told you they're innocent
They are billionaires. There are NO innocent billionaires.
What confuses me is WHY Nargeolet and Harding went onboard. With so much underwater and diving experience between them, surely they MUST have known better. RIP.
They were either idiots overrated as experts or they got paid enough to accept their inevitable demise. 77 years old, you're about to die anyway, might as well leave your family extra cash - or, again, they were clueless clowns who just got lucky till now.
Please take care to realise the carbon rod requires a tensile pressure of 26.44 Pounds/Sq inch of crayton and atock shipments. Basically, this means if you wire the cromop scale when testing the yonk stern at depths below 130m you will need to acquire stretched capable trited hydrofoam whilst helping the tritelp emerge at the correct temperature. If the mercury filament fails when reaching -20 Kelvin I would opt for the Dregro srometer when tethering the andridge motor.
@@italkedtobarzini4015I can only say one word to express my confusion: What.
They love the thrill of taking risks and that’s why and they paid with their lives.
It was just a matter of time that they would have died doing some other crazy activity.
@@italkedtobarzini4015 You are so full of crap lmao
Calling the Titan "STATE OF THE ART" may be an overstatement.
In an art museum it can be called state of the art... The design is pleasing to the eye, but not safe in the depths of the ocean...
Wasn't anything state of the art about it for sure. Not even two decades ago would it have been.
I was looking for this comment.
It was Gerry rigged with lights from camp world and controlled with a game controller.
Give me a damned break!!!
Looks like its held together with HOSE CLAMPS!🤦♀️🥴
@@tonis204 ..they shoulda used some Flex Seal℠, I saw a commercial where they put a screen door on a boat..
If they did that the people inside coulda just opened the screen door and swam to safety 🤔
It was JANKY XD
The CEO killed them all . He deluded himself he knew better than the experts , who had warned him many times .Also he is on record saying , I'm sick of 50 plus ex submariners being in charge of safety. He went on to say he wanted a more diverse young group , because they have more inspiration . Yeah right , we saw how that worked out .
Go woke end up dead at the bottom of the ocean. He didn't get inspired by 50 year old white guys I guess.
No, their arrogance killed them all. Every one of them knew the risks. They were all multimillionaires who could have afforded to spend $5k getting an engineer to check it out.
But these people wan5ed some experience to boast about and are used to paying to get what they want.
Unfortunately for them the laws of physics can't be bribed.
@@cccmmm1234 No the risks were played down massively to get their money . The CEO is a murderer and should be remembered as such .
@@stevewebb7126whom are you to say what they knew
@@stevewebb7126 the dangers were obvious to anyone with any engineering experience. They all signed inch thick piles if waiver documents so they knew.
Sure he was irresponsible, but these people are hardly victims.
Calling the Titan "STATE OF THE ART" may be an overstatement.. The worst tragedies are those that are preventable..
How did the seasoned vets like the French guy not be able to see this was a bad idea? That's what blows my mind about the whole thing.
Arrogance
Would you climb a mountain that has a death zone, probably not, but plenty of people will.
Agree
because people like to take risks regardless of the consequences.
You reach an age where you're like "if I die now, I'm fine with it." I guess he was at that age and willing to take the risk.
My husband works in steel fabrication and structural engineering and as soon as he learnt about what the sub was made of (mainly carbon fibre) he commented that it would crack and break under that much pressure, sadly he was right...RIP
They are now part of the Titanic history and will always be remembered.
The design of it sure didn't help either. There's a Reason why pretty much every vessel that's designed to hold people has a spherical compartment for the people; spheres evenly distribute forces, which is somewhat important when you're dealing with that much pressure depth.
That thing looked like a hot water heater with some angle iron welded to it. All aboard!!😂😂
@@jerardnorgren3411I said it looked like modified septic tank myself...
@@ShapeupShiptout Lol. I also said that it was basically an under water pipe bomb. A metal tube with 2 end caps. Basically a homemade depth charge!!
All of you are experts? 🙄
For those who think that the boy was scared, there is an interview with his mother. She was programed to go, but the son insisted, and she gave her place to the boy. The boys insistence saved her life.
I just commented on that situation and my concern is, initially, it was said the boy had real fears about going but ultimately gave in to believing he would bond with his Father by going?
@@Loulovesspeed ok. but the mother told the interviewer the contrary.
I have heard (don't know the source though) that a recent interview or statement with the mother said that her son did want to go and that the aunt hadn't had contact with the family for a while.
But once again this is just floating out there in the web and I do not know of a concrete source for this.
It is also possible that the son was scared at first then wanted to go to both please his father and his own curiosity.
And she will have to live with this horror for the rest of her life. 😓😥
Yes you are 100% correct
Who would have thought that claustrophobia could actually be life saving. No amount of money would convince me to get on that capsule. It looks absolutely horrifying.
The more information is out about this horrible tragedy, the more I start to feel that Mr Rush was not only a name. It seems he was a reckless and arrogant adrenaline seeker who selfishly put other people's lives on the line. So sad. 😢 RIP to the crew, especially the boy, and peace to their families.
I mean he did everything he could to NOT have experts in the field in his company.
We have a Pilot CEO hiring people with expertise in Aerospace engineering and Airforce. Makes no sense.
@@midnightfenrir if you build it they will come.
Well said my friend!
I was crushed by the news.
I agree.
You couldn't pay me millions to get into this cylinder and take this insane trip. The sea is so unforgiving.
Would you do it for 12,000,000 ?
and....maybe this is a dumb statement...but shipwrecks are ugly too. lol i mean i see why a rich person who has done it all would maybe wanna just do something different but ....this isnt for me either.
the sea is like freaking math. either you get the right answer or you don't.
@@TKUltra971 SO TRUE SO TRUE
@@user-ih9dg3uz5y no because what good is $12 million if youre dead and cant even spend it?
I dont think they had time for dread. The moment they went dark they had joined the oceanic food chain. Their lives ended more rapidly that a bug hitting your windshield as you roll down the interstate at 90 miles an hour.
Careful , they were not bugs , not a nice comparison dealing with human beings here .
I liked the comparison, it really out it into perspective. And what makes us better than bugs anyway? We are just food to them.
@@seventysue8090 Food to who?
@@seventysue8090 What ?
@@gazzertrn the bugs
I feel horrible for the 19 year old. He is the only truly innocent person involved in this. Rest in paradise.
I think he's resting in a sharks belly
@@mikekoz6351 damn you got the whole squad laughing 😐😐😐
@@mikekoz6351could’ve done better on that joke bud. :/
i blow up into smithereens
@@mikekoz6351he’s resting in festering slime
Thank you for this video!! I am not trying to victim blame in any way, but the idea of those 4 people going 13,000 feet into the Atlantic in that particular submersible with someone to whom safety is not particularly important is more than a little terrifying to me.
Why not, the Oceangate CEO was entirely responsible for not only killing himself but taking 4 innocents with him.. He was warned multiple times by experts this craft was not safe yet he hand waved them away like he knew better.. He didn't as he found out..
It's not only terrifying it's dumb as. Except for the kid who died it's a load of whatever from me. I feel bad for the kid. The innocence of youth excuses him. The others were old as dirt and should have known better than to get in some rich narcissists toy boat, sorry
I’m so claustrophobic, I won’t even get on an elevator, so just the thought of getting into that submarine would be absolutely terrifying.
Very welcome! thanks for stopping by!
And also paid 250k
This is what happens when ego, power, and pride get in the way of safety. That man killed those 4 innocent people.
No he didn’t.
families cant even try to prosecute him for it.
@@anthonybayawaiii7286waivers are dismissed all the time by judges
@@ohnooooooooooooooooo I mean he’s dead they dont have a chance to put him behind bars
@@anthonybayawaiii7286 oh ye I'm sure hes regretting it either way
Imagine this.
Wind a thread of sewing cotton around a soda can until it is completely covered, then paint the string with epoxy resin, then when it’s hard, remove the soda can from inside the cotton/epoxy tube you have built.
Now, put a balloon inside your cotton/epoxy cylinder and blow the balloon up. You will be able to inflate the balloon to quite an impressive pressure before the cotton/epoxy cylinder fails from internal pressure.
That is what happens when you build a plane out of carbon fiber. The internal pressure of a plane at altitude is higher than the outside atmosphere and it’s like the example above of the cotton/epoxy cylinder.
NOW. Take the same cotton/epoxy cylinder and press on the outside lightly with your fingertips. It won’t take much force at all to cause your cylinder to collapse from OUTSIDE pressure.
Carbon fiber is INCREDIBLY strong (much stronger than steel) in tensile strength. If you try to pull and stretch it, it resists and is hard to break. But take the same thread and push at it from the side. It will bend with very little force at all. That’s because carbon fiber has no inherent STIFFNESS. It requires epoxy resin on it to give it any rigidity at all.
That’s what happens when you build a submersible out of carbon threads and epoxy. The inherent strength of carbon fiber to resist tensile load is useless against compressive forces trying to distort your cylinder from outside pressure.
The kid is the only one of these five that I feel truly bad for. While the other three passengers (NOT crew members) may have been misled by Rush, they could have researched Rush's claims a bit more carefully before putting a quarter of a million dollars and their very lives on the line.
Legal Adult. Stop Cappin for the 19 year old Grown Man
The CEO skirted safety and ignored all of the experts for one reason, and one reason only: for profit. He didnt love exploration or nature. He just thought he could get richer and all those safety rules were for losers, not him. If he had done it by himself I would not have cared. You have the right to be wrong and lose your life. But he took others with him, and charged them for their deaths.
Those people paid to go with him! It's their own fault that they all were down there!
@@tearose9938yep
Agree
Can't charge him ya bloody fool he was in the sub.
@@snickzonesnickzone5242 Lol, he charged them money for the trip......you cant read but I'm the fool.....hahahaha
Ego, Cheapness and Recklessness got these men killed!
What a blunder
Understandably, they don’t want to tell the families that their loved ones’ bodies would’ve turned completely to goo and leaked out into the ocean, so there are no remains to recover. I don’t know if this knowledge would bother me more or the thought of remains floating to be eaten by sea life. I don’t think one could help but wonder, but I’m sure they’ve been told implosion and death occurs in a nanosecond, before the brain can process anything, so they wouldn’t have been aware. I really hope the passengers didn’t experience the hull failure alarm, that the implosion occurred immediately. It seems like it would’ve, but I don’t really know.
This Rush guy sounds more and more as if he thought he was invincible. Anyone who thinks that safety is just an impediment or some kind of unnecessary constraint when diving in a tiny sub over 4,000 meters down into the ocean hasn’t got their head screwed on straight. Diving 100 meters down has serious life threatening risks where if one thing goes wrong, you all die. Not to mention that in an emergency situation it can take a really long time for any help to come. Why a person wouldn’t ensure that every safety precaution is taken to ensure not only success but that the divers return alive is borderline criminal. Let’s face it, the man was responsible for every other life on that vessel. So they signed a waiver? Did that waiver explain all of the safety design elements he refused to include or the corners that were cut, or the warnings that he chose to ignore? Sure it’s easy to damn this man now. He made it just a little too easy. What a tragedy.
I understand to take risk but not when you have other peoples lives in your hands I cant imagine how scared that 19yr old was🥺🥺🥺 my condolences to the families
Why don't you prioritize real news instead of focusing on these idiotic thrill-seekers who got what they deserve! There are nearly 700 people feared dead after a fishing boat capsized off the coast of Greece, including over 200 children. Yet, there is zero news coverage or assistance from anyone. They were left to die when they could have been saved. It's sickening how all the resources were wasted trying to rescue these clowns!
Don't, they did not know they died it happened so fast.
@@holstatt6896 he was terrified before he even went... his aunt says he had a bad feeling about it and his feelings were always right. he only went coz of his father.... they say it was to bond with his father for fathers day. a paskistani kid doesnt argue with their parent... simple as that
Please take care to realise the carbon rod requires a tensile pressure of 26.44 Pounds/Sq inch of crayton and atock shipments. Basically, this means if you wire the cromop scale when testing the yonk stern at depths below 130m you will need to acquire stretched capable trited hydrofoam whilst helping the tritelp emerge at the correct temperature. If the mercury filament fails when reaching -20 Kelvin I would opt for the Dregro srometer when tethering the andridge motor.
Holstatt - I’m afraid they might of heard the hull cracking before it imploded.🫤
James Cameron said that just before communications were lost they reported some kind of problem and had to release the sandbags and were trying to resurface when all communications abruptly halted. And it was eight hours before the mothership reported the sub missing to the coast guard.
With the cost of a rescue mission they want to make sure it's really missing first.....
@@Yukanhayt-Mhenowit's vile that they would be more concerned with the cost of the rescue expedition than with saving people's lives
@@cardenasr.2898 The entire operation of OceanGate was based on being as cheap as possible.
Fascinating
This is the first I heard that Titan gave off distress signals. Up till now, I suspected a relatively sudden implosion without a lot of time for the people to consider their fate. I liked that better than the truth..
@ktagliam - Implosions aren't any more "relatively sudden" than an explosion. There was absolutely zero time to think about anything. Imagine yourself sitting on a high explosive and it goes off. In a nano second, you would be very dead and incapable of thinking about anything......you would just be turned into particles quicker than a light switch can go on or off!
@@Loulovesspeed I guess we'll never know the full truth. Have there been warning signals while descending? Some odd noises? What was said and done? It's more comforting to think it all happened without any of them having an idea about it...
They had enough time to release the ballast and try to ascend….they knew something was up 😮
@@chrisvig123 How do you figure they had enough time to do anything?? There is no advanced warning, then, in less time than a brain can think - like one 1,000 of a second they are deceased and obliterated.
Terrifying the only one my heart goes out to is the young man who just wanted to please his father everyone else was a case of grown men with too much money and too much time on they're hands
It is not an experimental vessel when it carries paying customers - it is a vehicle for hire. The purpose of experimental vehicles is to evaluate system performance under stress within a controlled environment to understand the performance of materials and systems. No aircraft manufacturer sells seats on test flights. Test pilots fully understand the risks involved and trust that engineering standards and principles are followed.
THIS!
But I got 250k... come on buddy, let me sneak on.. jk You couldnt PAY me any amount to get in that thing
💯💯💯💯💯
you are incorrect. experimental is a designation describing a design that has not been proven to be commercially viable. charging people money to ride in an experimental craft doesn't magically make it not experimental anymore. it was the only commercial submersible in operation worldwide to not be certified. it used a type of construction that is brand new and has never been attempted before, for good reason because the risks of catastrophe are well known, which is why experts around the world repeatedly told the builder that he was going to get people killed
@@peabody3000 Check your statement - you contradicted yourself. The sub can not be both experimental and commercial. Since it had paying customers (which were agressively solicited) means that it was commercial vehicle.
#1 the hull was carbon fiber.
#2 it imploded, not exploded.
They will never find the lost souls. They were crushed to the size of a softball, incinerated by fire, then decimated into billions of tiny particles.
Most accurate comment here.
like the whole rescue thing. they knew it was giving false hope. they knew an hour and a half into the dive it had imploded.... they heard it. and yet spent billions on a false rescue when they knew it was hopeless. even if the bodies were whole theyd never recover them and they cant make 'arms' on a submersible. there are 10 subs in the world designed to go to 4000 feet and the titanic is at 12 500. they KNEW there was never gonna b a possibility of rescuing them
The occupants were expelled so it exploded after it imploded.
@@jeaniechampagne8831it imploded crushing the air and then down to such a small volume that the air combusts in an explosion which could push out slightly and then that explosion would be crushed down again and possibly exploding again if there were any oxygen left. And yeah they were incinerated in a crushing implosion/explosion/implosion and potentially another explosion and implosion.
@forfun6273 Adiabatic Compression is one hell of a drug
The mom said otherwise. It was supposed to be her going and not him, Apparently he wanted to break a record of doing a Rubik's cube while being near the titanic, rich people problems. He was probably nervous but im sure he intended to ticktock it.
Thank you! That is exactjy my first thought when learning about this.
So crazy that anyone signed up for this when you hear how it was built and run. I was glad for the occupants to hear that the vessel imploded... the thought of being lost down there for several days while you run out of oxygen would be one of the worst imaginable ways to go 😥 rip to them
hindsight is 20/20
I think Stockton Rush was a super narcissist 🙄🙄🙄🙄
A criminal as well
Arrogant, egotistical, smug,come to mind also...
Probably every great inventor, artist etc is/ was...
The video covers most of the basic details pretty well, including disasterous flaws in the design of the Titan. But some of it is giving a very misleading impression about submarining in general.
1. Military submersibles are incapable of deep submergence. They use the ocean mainly to hide, not to explore, so being able to reach the deepest depths isn't worth it. I believe the deepest non classified dive depth is something in the range of 500 meters. The Los Angeles class nuclear submarines are suspected to capable of 950 meters. But that's still less than a quarter of the way to the Titanic Wreck. Withstanding water pressure requires exponentially more engineering the deeper the sub goes.
2. DSVs are built for one thing, operating at extreme depth. Everything else is utterly secondary. No DSV on earth is designed to transport itself to its operating location. All of them are designed to operate with the help of a surface support ship.
3. No DSV uses oxygen cracking from the ocean. That requires electrical power. This is something that a nuclear submarine has ample to spare thanks to its reactor. But DSVs operate on battery power. It's simply more compact, and less to go wrong, to operate on bottled oxygen. 96 hours of onboard air, assuming Ocean Gate isn't lying or overly optimistic, is actually pretty typical.
There's host of things that were wrong with this sub, but these elements, at least, aren't the biggest issue.
I remember from college engineering - the topic of designing hemisphere ends to a cylinder pressure vessel. It's complicated and that was for plain old steel
I’ve worked with so many people like this. They don’t understand rules and safety. They think that it’s a question.
It was irresponsible of that father to bring his 19 year old son on such a risky voyage.
I'm 62 yrs old work two songs @ several nieces @ nephews, and in my opinion,a 19 yr old isn't even close to being a mature adult @ the fact that his dad could push him into going down in that tub when he really didn't want to go is one of the many ways to prove it. I feel so sorry for that young one, it's so sad.... His dad obviously thought his $ would not only buy him whatever he wanted, but make him immune to danger and stupidity also....
It was irresponsible for anyone to be on such a risky voyage
They were about to make another Guinness world record
By solving Rubik's cube in the deepest part of the word
And he was excited about the trip his mother gave an interview
The 19yr old was an adult who could make decisions for himself. That OceanGate vehicle had also been in service and diving regularly for over two years prior to this tragedy.
@@quietcosmos. The decision’s of a nineteen year old are short sighted and often foolish to say the very least, that’s what parents are for, guidance. And your belief that the sub was safe is based on the fact that no one had died….. YET?
“At some point you have to take some risk”
Agree. What you don’t want to do is dismiss risk which is pretty obvious happened here.
your born with a brain use it
some dont have one
Thank you for a great video
- The deep, dark depths of an unreliable, unexplored and unforgiving environment….the fear of the unknown…IT’S ABSOLUTELY FREAKIN’ TERRIFYING!!! 😱
RIGHT?????😮😬😬😬
James Cameron went down there like 30 times...
Terrifying while terrific as the same time. Alluring to the human psyche, just like a horror film.
I'm just terrified even thinking about it
Nanosecond...they didn't even know they died. Sad ending
That Rush guy and his arrogance caused the demise of those other men.
Be rushed so fast
As a former Navy serviceman
I can vouch that Gaming controllers are used in all kinds of sensitive military "equipment " like drones and much more . So the controller its not something that would be of concern but the way the submersible was made ( materials) and lack of safety messures is what was ultimately it's doom in my opinion. Sad really.
If you think about it it makes perfect sense. Almost anyone in their early 30s and younger knows how to use one of them as instinctively as knowing how to breathe. It'd be crazy not to take advantage of a skill like that since you can connect a controller to pretty much anything and be able to find someone to operate it without going through exhaustive specialized training.
The US does NOT use 'game controllers' Just because the controls look like a game controller does not mean it is a Nintendo. EMP is a thing - ever heard of it?
With all the experts on this submersible, no one paid attention to the red flags.
THEY IGNORED SAFETY
Oh my God
The CEO was an egotistical nightmare! He literally failed to care about safety regulations and dismissed any certification, the way a small child dismisses broccoli! His childish response to a VERY SERIOUS matter is baffling. I don't care if he was NICE, he was reckless and irresponsible! The 19 year old kid seems to be the only genuine victim! This is proof that you can be "BOOK" smart, but lack common sense! He knew that dropping this piece of crap into international waters would free him from regulations while throwing a tantrum when anyone tried to hold him accountable! Innovation means NOTHING if everyone is dead! Between his horrific email responses, termination of Whistleblowers, threatening with SLAPP lawsuits, dangerous behavior regarding human life and almost cult like mentality regarding innovation, it's apparent that he simply wanted to do what he WANTED, but ignored what was REQUIRED! Unfortunately 4 other people were lost with him due to his reckless & dangerous ego! This is not innovation! This is flat out greed & ego of one man... trying to prove a DUMB POINT... without responsibility!
U are so true! Couldn't said it better grattz
Why don't you prioritize real news instead of focusing on these idiotic thrill-seekers who got what they deserve! There are nearly 700 people feared dead after a fishing boat capsized off the coast of Greece, including over 200 children. Yet, there is zero news coverage or assistance from anyone. They were left to die when they could have been saved. It's sickening how all the resources were wasted trying to rescue these clowns!
These are my thoughts exactly. Not to mention that taxpayers from 3 countries are on the hook for his pet project/hobby. No contingency plan. No 2nd sub. Oh wait, I know who has those, the government. I don’t want to follow the rules of the system, but I want the benefits of the system. The rugged individual, pull yourself up by your bootstraps doesn’t apply to people like him, only us little people. The only sympathy I have is for the 19 year old and the people who loved him.
FACTS !!!!
@@amusedBYfools Millions that he earned back by charging over $250,000 per person... each trip. So he netted positive revenue and created shortcuts around expenses on safety measures to save more money! More often than not, the wealthy people have the most greed. That's common knowledge as well. People should stop treating the ultra wealthy as if they are exceptions to all liability, rules, laws & regulations.
This is truly a tragic story…
But common, how you gonna pay 250k for a ticket on a submersible controlled by a knock-off PlayStation controller?!?
RIP to the victims 🪦 💐 ⚰️
Rush isn't a victim. He got what he deserved, unfortunately it cost these other 4 people their lives.
RIPped off
You'd have to be a bit of a mug.
People shouldn't see this as such a sticking point. The controller isn't even the part that failed. And in similar situations, including commercial work surprisingly, controllers like this are used. In robotics, it's a Bluetooth input device. Just something to send on command signals.
@@Lezzyboy87lol you wrong for that.
Some of humanity's greatest achievements have been to make unthinkably dangerous activities safe. We have always done this by MAKING rules, not breaking them.
You make rules after you make mistakes. There is no way to avoid mistakes. Even in this particular case, nothing was done outside the “rules”. This event might actually trigger some new maritime law regulations. And that might not necessarily be a good thing. Rules are often borne out of idiocy, but are applied to everyone at large.
The guy had money, and chose to build the Oceangate submersible on the cheap.
I get how you might think this statement is true and relevant but it is neither.
I can’t understand how intelligent wealthy people didn’t research and understand this. James Cameron says The Explorer’s club all knew yet these very same people climbed on that thing. The portal wasn’t even up to the depths. If all these things were known then why didn’t someone stop this before this? The 19 year old is the victim.
Because ego and money got in the way of rationality.
Not victim if u sign risk waiver
If all of your information comes from the owners of the vehicle, how do you discern if it is valid info or marketing.
Same thing when you buy a 1st class ticket VS economy. You trust the pilot NOT the plane. This dude sold them pipe dreams
People often so dangerous Things. And Sometimes they die, doing them.
Most of the blame is on Stockton Rush, but you can't put all of it on him. The three men read the waiver, they understood that it was not regulated or certified, and they still chose to go down. It's just unfortunate for the kid.
Absolutely agree
Stupid CEO couldnt even make a good sub and we figured that out how long ago?
That so far off the mark like when LA Beast tried to make his fungus tea.
I blame his team too.
when u read it was designed in collaboration with NASA,Boeing ..... what more questions do u have?
Thank you for this comment, exactly what I've been thinking as well. As much as they didnt build or operate the sub doesn't mean they don't have any blame in what ended up happening to them..
The more I learn, the angrier I get. I feel that Stockton Rush’s cavalier attitude towards safety cost these people their lives. I’m curious to know what, if any, safety guidelines exist for deep sea vehicles like this, and whether OceanGate was following them. ❤ I feel especially bad for the woman who lost her husband and her son on the same day. RIP intrepid adventurers. By everything right, you really should be telling everyone about the amazing experience you had at the bottom of the sea, looking at the most famous shipwreck in history. (Noah’s Ark doesn’t count!)
stupid is as stupid does and this incident is the perfect example of that saying in a nutshell.
Regarding the young son on board: his mother and sister were on board the boat as well. His mother was originally going to go on the sub but switched seats with her son at the last minute. Additionally, 17 year olds were not allowed on the boat but the parents signed extra wavers to allow their daughter on-board. The young man was scared but also requested to go at the last minute. An argument could be made that both parents put their children in danger by ignoring the warnings of death and skirting safety rules by requesting special treatment. The mother is equally complicit in her son's demise as she is the one that gave up her seat on the sub and for allowing her 17 yeear old daughter on the ship.
I don’t care if 4 passengers were rich or not I feel bad for them, they trusted Ceo, he was blind by his ego, using people as experiment. He didn’t cared for safety. He was a Menace if just would’ve listen to everyone that advertised him. That thing was a death trash can 😩
The fact that your first sentence even needs to be said is really sad to me. I don’t understand how five people dying is hilarious just because they were rich.
Yeah, some people are just scumbags. Wishing death on someone just because they have more money than them? Braindead. They have to realize they are rich to much of the world. Do the poorer people in Liberia laugh whenever an American dies because "they had it so good and have so much money"?
Only 3 of the people were passengers. Stockton Rush (CEO) was the pilot, and PH Nargeolet was employed by Rush as a "tour guide" for his knowledge of the Titanic. So he didn't pay to go in that ride, he was paid to go there.
The other 3 were the paying passengers.
@@WithDiameter theres a MASSIVE difference btw just not caring and finding death funny. Learn it.
@@WithDiameterright you don't know how they got rich, maybe they put in hard work and didn't deserve what happened.
Yes it's a very tragic story, but what I find even more tragic are the people who looked at that painted can of soup and were like: "yes, this will totally take us to the bottom of the ocean no problem. 👍"
Rush was very persuasive, very personable AND claimed Titan was totally safe, tested to destruction etcetera. Passengers has NO IDEA about all the e mails warnings and issues. I saw Rush presentation in 2019.
😋 mmmmm soup......
The tragedy is: It REALLY took them down to the bottom of the ocean - unfortunaltely a one-way-ride...
Their chances would have been better in a sardine can.
@@KelelahsPreciousOnes I dunno those Sardines didn't fair too well.....🤣
Thank you for covering this so quickly. It's been difficult to get a decent sense of everything that happened with the media going wild over every little detail so this was a well needed clear and concise summary.
I would just recommend being careful in how you phrase the sequence of events as its happening. Especially with this being an incident that just took place, making claims about how the individuals were feeling during the decent might be especially hard and triggering for people who knew them. None of the passengers survived to tell the tale so whether they felt any sense of anxiety, dread or panic before the event is mostly conjecture and that can be a sensitive space to touch on.
Overall good work, I love your videos!
Imagine climbing inside and hearing them drilling the door shut.
You’re locked in.
"If you want to be safe, don't do anything. At some point you have to take some risk." Okay thanks for the sage advice. I would never have thought once in my life there was something in between doing nothing and dying.
I'm not going sea in a tuna can
Doing something at extreme risk and danger
Exactly. Driving my car is risky, but I can mitigate some of the risks by driving a safe vehicle, wearing a seatbelt, and driving carefully. With a steering wheel, not a knockoff game controller.
Just one example.
There is such a thing as a calculated risk, but you must do the calculations before you take the risk.
I feel bad for the kid and the researcher. The CEO was a monster who cut corners and totally knew it. It was not safe at all and he should have never taken those people down in that thing
I also had heard the boy wanted to set a record for doing his Rubik's cube the deepest in the ocean. I do my Rubik's cube every day so that caught my eye. Besides doing it deep under the ocean, he was talking about also setting a speed record. Anyone doing the cube at that depth would set a record. l had heard he had even contacted Guinness about what he would need for the world record. I am now hoping that is not why he supposedly overcame his fear of going down, to set that record. If it is, it is a very, very sad and tragic reason to have lost his life. I find myself still thinking about him as I do my cube every day. It's fun, but not to die for.
The fact that this was aloud to go on operating without it even have been tested properly is disgusting it was going to fail as soon as it dived
The worst thing is not even the depth, but the fact there was like a timebomb inside the vessel - 5 men inside and in any moment, one or even more could have farted inside and it had nowhere to go!
And they were sealed inside
I'm just amazed at how many resources where dumped the second that ticking time bomb of a vessel disappeared...
Because two 'significant persons of interest ' were onboard. Btw, Rush wasn't one of them
...
as opposed to what? Just sending a guy out in a dinghy with a megaphone calling their names?
There’s probably a really good reason why every other deep sea submersible took teams of engineers, years to develop.
Incorrect assumption here. This also took years to develop. But it wasnt "developed" by the right people (aka Boeing and not wanting to hire "50 year old white dudes").
Apollo one, challenger, Columbia, and titanic all in the period of 100 years.
I’ve only been on this earth for 33 years, but it never ceases to amaze me how many times “accidents” are a result of human hubris.
Seeing the little map pop up at 15:41 reminds me how "close" the Titanic wreckage is to me. Ironically enough I was born and raised in Glace Bay (on the little island of Cape Breton that is just East of the HMCS Glace Bay on the map). It's a big part of the Atlantic Ocean and maritime travel history. The Atlantic Ocean, and oceans in general, are very dangerous and unforgiving.
I live in St. John's, Newfounland. I remember on Thursday we saw the big dark planes flying really low probably from the search operation. Then we were still hoping they will find them and then just in an hour or two there was this notification from the CBS News app "Missing Sub Was Found in Pieces"...
That's a horrible tragedy. May all 5 crew members rest in peace.
David Bowie what is like to live in Newfoundland?
stockon can rest in pieces
@@user-ih9dg3uz5y it's amazing. I'm proud to be a Newfoundlander.
From my understanding the tail of Titan actually wags when it detects anomalies in the hull, before it cracks and explodes, it was actually one of the safety system devices according to Stockton.
It's so ironic how he dismissed safety just like the makers of the Titanic
RIP to the lost souls. Well done reporting of this preventable tragedy. Thank you.
Since the main hull was not properly engineered, it's amazing they got away with the dives they attempted previously ! Carbon fiber has to rely on the epoxy matrix for strength in this case with external or compressive forces, it's only a mesh of wrapped fibers, with large voids of space in between.. since the wrap was primarily helical, and not significantly biaxial or criss crossed, it was like a slinky toy when compressed... meaning that ANY deflection would result in displacement or fracture of hull instantaneously. They relied instead on the overlapping of a wide tape matrix to make up for a more difficult layup or schedule.
There was NO way the rtm system could give any significant advance notice of failure. It would likely not even be able to diagnose damages after dives since the pressure conditions differ... a proper engineering system would have included a damage monitoring system checking fiber integrity, and detection of water anywhere in fiber matrix. I suspect if this had been remotely piloted it might have survived one or two dives to Titanic's depths before failing... the multiple shallower dives gave then false confidence it was "proven" reliable. There are good engineering and scientific reasons carbon fibers are used mostly in tensile applications and not in compressive applications. They never should have been able to fire and sue into silence the engineer who told them their designs limitations and flaws.