In proving his point, he also disproved it at the same time - the only time it's a valid reason to blame your teammates "Why aren't any of you smurfs, dropping 100 kills smh my head head"
I used to be mad at people picking off meta heroes / not doing a good job. After I saw your guides my mindset changed to "if I'm losing games, it's entirely my fault for not carrying, and until I do I don't deserve a higher rank". After that I started winning a lot by fixing my mistakes.
agreed its better to play characters that you are comfortable with rather than play a meta character that you are not familiar just bc your teammate told you to switch
i get that the mindset shouldn't be blame your teammates but "it's my fault i should've carried" is and even dumber mindset if you're plat+. you literally can't carry a team on your own that's why it's a team game. if you're losing while putting up chamberlain numbers it's not your fault lol any "get better" won't change that
This legit shows how most people just do not know how to play moira, just with healing orb alone and some spray here and there u usually have the same if not more healing than any other in the game, while semi free to do dmg... I feel like the biggest problem DPS moiras have is that they use their dmg orb over the healing orb way to often...
That’d be rly interesting I think. Everyone in bronze seem to think “healers” (as they call them) are only there to heal bot and that’s it when really that’s useless in most ranks but ESPECIALLY bronze with a completely incapable team. It’d be cool to see whether it’s possible to get out of bronze with no damage done at all since it relies so heavily on his teammates. Not to hate on this video, it was entertaining and obviously meant as a joke but for someone of his level, obviously this challenge is easy, bro got over 70 elims in one game as bap LMAO he doesn’t exactly have the dps skill of a bronze. I find it funny how toxic his teammates were even tho he was winning games when they’d probably love it if he was heal botting and had no damage even tho that’d almost definitely get him less wins.
TBH, if you’re heal-focused but surviving and healing the right allies, you can still do a lot in low rank. A lot of low-rank players refuse to help anyone while they are being aggressive, whether it’s because they’re scared or just don’t notice/aren’t prepared, and they end up dumping a lot of healing into fights that are already basically lost (or could only be turned around with damage). If your teammate disengages before you heal them, it’s too late.
@@oscarjenkins7505 I asked why I had the most kills on my team in a match at one point when I wasn't playing for damage and my other dps replies "least healing though". Bear in mind for the entire 2 rounds this person got 2 kills and he wanted healing. He would literally only shoot the Roadhog and get 1shoted constantly. Bear in mind this person was playing Tracer too. People in lower ranks just think supports should jam as much healing as possible up their ass cuz if they die it's not because you got 1shoted by the enemy sniper, it's because you didn't get healed
i really like seeing your mental through these games. often the hardest part is not letting my teammates tilt me. its also really funny that they think they won despite their battle mercy, not because of you
I'd like to see the opposite video too, where you only heal as a support. Because that's the other excuse: "my healing is useless because my teammates are stupid, nothing I do as support matters". Maybe show how smart heals can swing the tempo of games in your favor even if your teammates are low rank.
Id love to see this. This vid already defied my expectations. we already have a baseline for the damage theyre doing and kills theyre getting. we can clearly see what a "standard bronze player" looks like. seeing him trying to save that would be a christmas miracle😂
theres no point doing that, he said in a previous vid the only way to carry matches is with damage not healing so if he gets bad teammates he could infinitely heal them and they could still miss all of their shots and never kill an enemy
@@santiagogalf Hmm, I don't buy that argument. Statistically the other team is not going to have better players than yours, so if your team's missing their shots, the other team is as well. In that scenario, identifying the (relative) strengths of your team and smartly doing healing and other support effects (e.g. discord orb, sleep, anti-nade, damage boost) to give them an edge, plus maybe shotcalling, seems like a reasonable way to climb as a support.
@@Aurora12488 statistically, there is a 60 to 70 percent rate the other team gets better players. The rank system in ow2 is like this: "if u are good, your teammates will be bad and the other team will be good". Why? To push u to learn more skills. As a main support, I can vouch for this. I always start the matches healing more than dpsing. And in 80% of the cases, I have to start dpsing more than healing in the second round, if I wanna win. All the games I have won are the ones in which as a support I did a lot of damage. I sometimes have more kills than my dps and tank. And yeah, I am still in bronze even if my stats are clean. I know that's a me problem, I am trying to figure out what matters in ranking up. Cuz my feeling is that the only thing that matters are the stats, not the win/lose rate. But I am still experimenting this.
Crazy that people flame and report you when your team is stomping. Even in diamond, I get yelled at for not heal botting as an Ana main, but since I've started prioritizing damage I've climbed from gold to diamond with a 60%+ win rate. It really works.
I just realized that in the Kiriko game, the enemy Mercy/Moira player who said “bro go heal your team” only did 900 more healing than Awkward did with Suzus and passive healing only.
@@bihazards and that's the point. A good DPS can climb out of bronze. But can a Support? All we saw was a good DPS picking good DPS supports. Guy spent 0 effort on actually being a support. Like wow a dude with great mechanical skill at DPS can do DPS! What a shocker.
@@PhabioTheHost here's the thing. A good support is not a heal bot. If all you do is shoot teammates on ana, you are a bad ana. If all you do is right click on bap, you are a bad bap. Good supports climb out of bronze, not because they are heal bots but because they know how and when to be aggressive and carry the team.
I love Awkward so much, his content is pure fire the mindset is top tier and his explinations on vods are clear cut. 10/10 the content we've always needed.
yeah i find it interesting as well especially because when you think about it, youll see that people notice the negatives and the bad about your moves alot easier than the good. really shows you that you shouldnt care much about what people say
@@acativ9 yeah to be fair I'd probably be quite mad if we were standing on payload and my support was blatantly refusing to heal me regardless of how well they were doing 😂 still funny for a youtube video
In his zen unranked to gm in placements people were trying to tell him he was bad lmfao. There are times people have decent tips, but 90% of the time it's idiots who are mad. If you don't want to pick the good from the bad, safe to just squelch
@@SleepyxFish I had a game with Zen Lucio once. Instead of asking them to change I decided to change my play style to account for the lack of heals. Long story short we absolutely stomped because as awkward says there is no such thing as meta below GM. Edit: Actually it’s happened quite a few times by now, and I’m pretty sure I’ve won more often than lost.
bronze/silver players have this delusion that lucio is one of the best supports to play... not for his speed boost or peel capabilities or even for his damage but because he can heal multiple people at once without having to aim. It's not unusual to run into mercy/lucio or zen/lucio comps and have the lucio lead the lobby in healing by the end of the match against teams running anna or moira. works great until those players hit a rank level where the sojourn/ashe/widow players can aim and lucio starts dying early in fights cause he's on the ground in the open.
@@InceyWincey The thing is we had moria lucio (moria was getting caught out and doing more dmg, while the other team had extreme spam with a junk . I'm not a tank player by any means) but I believe I switched up my playstyle during the game, and ended up winning (even though me lucio went back and forth with each other)
its shocking how despite the picks awkward got and wiped half of their team out they still complained about healing even though at most the enemy dps output was zero cause half of them are dead this shows they really do deserve the bronze rank
Well, you see... This is a team game where people that queue a role should fill said role and play in a team instead of being that person who "carries", because that is why they are in the same rank. To be a team and fill the gaps. Not to go in "ooga booga I have no dps I go brr" and then other people on the team literally end up as a fail on the rank up because of having to keep dying for no reason than just the support "having to carry" (you don't, nobody needs to carry, it's not a deathmatch, it's a team game and if people work together it always works)... This is why you see so manny supports be blamed in low ranks, they see these and end up forgetting to heal at all or not relying on the team ever without even asking for communication and help. I am a support main, I'm in Plat 1, climbed solo just by staying calm and doing actual comms as people got surprised over callouts in lower elos. Silver 2 on tank and dps for the same reason. Not even doing well in general but doing a team coordination.
@@kosmonautttt If you want to show me a video of a high elo game where a person carried with nobody else doing anything as they have most stats and picks, disproving me, be my guest.
@@satamikoif you're in plat, you can easily carry, if you're in gm, it's much harder, but you still can, and it's more common to be a team diff, but that's just an excuse and has no real use when saying it.
I know its really a long shot, but I'd love for Blizzard to create a metric for player impact in the game, to shut down false reports. Awkward got reported so many times, and for what? Not conforming to their expectations? He was doubling or tripling the DPS in damage AND eliminations. The delusion you would have to be, to get mad at being carried just blows my mind.
One of my favorite things Seagull said is that if you wanna get better and climb, you have to take full responsibility. Your team isn’t the reason you can’t climb, not your heals, tank, dps, anything. If you wanna climb, you have to realize, you are the reason that you’re losing, and you alone.
"Proving" by being a GM player farming bronze players. Ok then let me prove thag you don't need a goalkeeper to win in football. To do that I am going to roll a team of schoolchildren and I we are only the Argentinian national team.
Mad cuz bad. They can't fathom they are having their butts carried by a dps healer, so they react based on some limited preconception(s) (to win, one must do this and not that), due to their little insecurities and wounded (by fear of loss?) egos triggering the need to vent their spleen on some scapegoat(s).
Honestly super impressed by your displine to not just play the game normally out of habit, amazing video this is the type of overwatch content that more people need to see!
I got yelled at in a game yesterday because I was "doing too much damage as ana which means I was not healing enough." Even though we won he kept yelling at me. thanks for the videos!
You go and play dps and see how fun it become if your support refuse to give you any heals and just say "im supporter not healer, just position yourself better" Ofc you can still win the game but its a pain in the ass getting there.
@@Abc86aikanyone who doesn’t have an ego and isn’t an idiot wouldn’t give a shit about their support not healing them if they’re winning and topping the charts. Support players shouldn’t try get themselves killed to to heal idiot dps players that are in bad positions, that’s how you get the entire team wiped
Imo you can blame teams only for specific games. If you say "bad teams are the only reason I'm in X rank" then that's copium. If you see your rein charge in alone everytime or see DPS getting a negative KDA then you can point out in that game what was lacking. As bad as the overwatch Matchmaking is, you won't get bad teammates every single time to the point where you can't rank up.
You can literally blame your teammates every game and not be wrong. It's the mentality involved that is wrong. If you only blame your teammates, who are likely just as bad as you, you won't see what you're doing wrong and you'll never improve.
i think the complaints about not healing are part of the "default" problem in low ranks. everyone has this conception of how the game is "supposed" to be played. Like that every fight should happen on the cart every time," or that "healers are supposed to heal," etc. They get upset with people they see who don't do these things. But in actuality, they don't understand how the game actually works, so they don't understand why things are happening. This is why low ranked players think Orisa is OP, because they're all shooting at the Orisa and ignoring the two supports keeping the Orisa alive. So Orisa feels really OP when really its their fault for not killing the supports the Orisa needs to stay alive.
This is exactly correct. I've been a bronze silver player for years because I love trying to help my team. I'm never trying to carry via elims, aside from rare opportunities. I understand why I'm low rank. I'm playing the way they expect me to play. I like it. What they expect and how they often play is very wrong though. Healing people that play wrong doesn't often help win games. Of course the other team is playing wrong too, so sometime the support difference matters.
@@ez243 I was an Ana one trick when I was in bronze (currently diamond) and I remember a game on Anubis shortly after I decided I was just going to carry every game. I was basically killing the enemy team almost on my own while shooting the occasional heal shot on a teammate. One of our DPS made a comment about carrying the team and one of our tanks was like, “actually I think our Ana is a Smurf.”
@@transscribe I started playing Lucio non stop in season one and I learned to neglect my team and attack vulnerable people in the back line the season before I was gold now in season two I made it to masters
I mean yeah In between fights if he’s not healing you, that’s going to be frustrating. They don’t know he’s a top 500 player doing a content video. That genji was literally in his face spamming for heals. I was still dying from laughter though.
This is the main problem as a support, handling this, rather than the bad performance of your team. Its a struggle to kinda keep your team happy so they do not perform even worse and carrying them. Handling the toxicity, them getting worse bc theyre tilted, u staying focused on what u have to do instead of letting them influence to become a heal bot. And this is some "meta-gaming" supports have to live with because of DPS players usually being braindead or having waaaaay to much ego. This is just an extra layer a support has to do, on top of doing more dmg than a DPS and healing your team enough so they dont die and u win teamfights. The mental is by far the biggest skill a support needs to get, and this is likely harder than technical skills such as aim that you can just practively learn. PPL dont give supports enough credit, and are mostly just oblivious to how this game works, that a healer is not a healer, but a support, etc
Bruh he's refusing to give them even a healing orb or heal inbetween fights. Don't act like you wouldn't be annoyed, I wouldn't enjoy it either if I died an extra 5 times because the zen carrying my ass wouldn't even give me a heal orb.
It's a GM player smurfing in bronze. To them this guy mine as well be a cheater and he isn't playing the role like he's supposed to meaning team mates will die constantly while you should be healing them This whole video is strange cause it doesn't prove anything. If you're stuck in bronze/low ranks you probably don't have aim anywhere near this good and aren't going to be making constant picks which are making these wins possible
@@giveitarub7215 If you're "stuck" in bronze you deserve to be so until you're good enough to get out the mechanical skill required to get out of bronze is basically have functioning arms.
@@giveitarub7215 Feel like you totally missed the point of the video You don't need to have GM aim to go from bronze to gold/plat whatever, you also arent forced to play dps only. The point is to position yourself better where you can actively deal damage too, obviously healing helps too. But the more you pressure their team, the more you force them to play safer, force them behind cover = can't deal as much damage to your team = don't need to heal them as much.
@@VitezGonye Yeah I get all those points, but I feel like this still sort of sends the wrong message to low rank players. Like the DPS moiras wondering why their team is losing when they have 7k damage and 3k healing, 75% of which is probably healing on themselves
@@giveitarub7215 Dps moira wouldnt even be the biggest problem, what I often see even in my games though (high gold) is moiras with like most deaths on team...They misuse fade super bad, which just results in getting little kills and never escaping Im quite certain all you gotta do for moira is use fade well...obviously aim not even a problem for anyone and then dont do shit like throwing orb into genji deflect
new account so bronze players were low MMR, meaning they were either new or god awful, High MMR has you playing platinum with the wrong name, try a gazillion hours in quickplay, then start comp, then see the difference.
I play a lot of Ana and I’ve even had my friends be like, man bro they are out healing us, yet we are winning and I have a ton of damage and Elims. It’s annoying when people focus on the numbers way too much.
"it's so cool how this game just shows the stats right there on the scoreboard so nobody can make excuses." - average overwatch copium Ana has so much utility that basing someone's performance on her based purely on how much healing or damage she has is wild.
Loved the vid! Especially since you crippled yourself way more than what not healing teammates would look like, you didnt even self-heal on baptise with shift. Pretty impressive aim yo!
That's why there is the counter movement of supports≠healers, because they also have utility. The bronze comments in this video shows that the movement isn't working as well as we want it to.
Had a game the other day with a moira and mercy duo doing a no healing game and everyone was upset at first but i was laughing my ass off the whole time and we ended up winning shit was actually too funny
"Just go sombra or soldier dude" That right there is the problem, so every other dps role is now suppose to be unplayable because support players just decided they wont heal? And hog is the only tank playable from now on if you want some heals because support is called support, not healer?
For most people it’s very easy to forgive themselves for something they wouldn’t forgive someone else for. That’s why many people find it easy to just blame their team and say Elo hell while ignoring some of the fight losing plays they’ve made like chasing 1 person into 3 of their teammates and dying, or immediately running from the fight after 1 teammate dies turning a 4v5 into a 3v5 turning a potential comeback into a near guaranteed lost fight. I know that I do it, and I know that I don’t realize it until I watch my vods back but I’m trying to get better at that and at changing my mindset to a “what I can do” instead of “what my team isn’t doing”.
I’ve noticed that too. Someone will be dying the whole game doing something stupid and casual say mb or laugh it off. The second someone else dies they go in on them and blame them for everything. It’s like they are scared someone is going to call them out so they blame someone else to deflect. I’m convinced most people would rather lose the game than look like they had anything to do with the problems on the team.
Im hard stuck on bronze 1, and i approve this message, lol. Your last video got me to bronze 1 Ana. Now i have to figure out how to climb. This helps i will heal still but it shows me I need to work on my aim a little more. Thanks
It depends, honestly. I range between 2 to 11 based on my team and how aggressive I play sometimes. When I'm not zoned out and I'm playing my best, I don't die unless the usual flank comes from behind. I still can't blame my team even when i get the usual throwers. If my aim was better and I play the best angles, it's hard for bronze players to catch me unless they have a Smurf account.
@@PradelBjr best advice I could give you to help you get out of bronze (if you even want it lol) prioritize your life before anyone else in the game. Your tank or dps goes and yeets themselves into the enemy and out of your line of sight don’t endanger yourself to heal them. You alive is way more impactful in your games than dead. Stay alive. Know when a teammate is a lost cause and not worth your resources. Don’t flame them but don’t waste your time on them either. If your dps or tank is not getting value don’t give them resources. Especially tanks. If your tank is constantly going way too deep and feeding the enemy alt charge and not creating space or getting kills on their back line don’t heal them. It would better for you to damage and try to kill their dps or supports in that situation. Watching replays of your games is great in learning when your team is getting value and when they are not and will inform you when you should give resources and when not to. If you dps with Ana don’t dps tanks unless they are very low and you can get the kill. 3 shots is all it takes to kill any dps or support in the game. Last thing, go into your games with a goal. Not “I want to win” but something like, “this game I’d like to not die more than 4 times” if that is a goal ahead of your game you will subconsciously work towards that and play for your life and in turn you will play better and win more. Stay calm in your games and relax. You will play at your potential if you are not tensed up. Good luck climbing. You can do it!
Rule #1 of videogaming with your fellow people, focus on yourself, don't worry about the other lovely people. Focus on having a good time and improving as a bonus, the ladder is just a number anyways, it doesn't inform anyone on your self worth. The winners are the people having the most fun, and it comes back, as winning is fun, so you win the most by having the most fun. So just focus on fun, which puts you in the zone and allow you to reach levels of play you didn't know you had in yourself. Plus what's fun about this mental trick is that you will attract other fellow lovely people who also vibe the same as you do, so you have fantastic fun games free of drama, all day long. Welcome to your life, much love, mwah!
i just recently got into ow2, and im having a blast. Its funny how i was recommended Jay3 and Awkward videos and Jay advocates "support = healer" while Awkward here advocates "support /= healer". very interesting
Well think about their pov, they stand 1 cm infront of a supporters face asking for a quick heal and he straight up ignores you , would you just say "omg what a great support player right there"
League of Legends taught me a very valuable lesson when it comes to gaming. If you are CONSISTENTLY losing games, the ONLY thing those games have in common is you. You are the common denominator. Play better. Perform. You'll win more.
"If you blame your team in bronze, you're just a loser, the Dive tanks who try to 1v5 solo enemy back-lines, DPS who only play long range without adequate aim training, and general trolls that will shit talk if you aren't pocketing are NOT why you're losing. It's because you aren't magically pulling Shots and kills like a top 500 player, which makes you a loser no matter what you say." -Awkward 2023 This is idiotic, plain and simple. And this is ignoring the fact that competitive ranking does actually work against healers in lower Elo since you will receive more ranking points for high damage and elim numbers, over high healing and assist numbers. Don't believe me? Drop yourself to bronze 5, play with the focus of keeping your allies alive, [No, you cannot group queue to try and side skirt the struggle the majority will experience, as most play solo queue], most people in bronze don't have godlike aim so pretending they should just magically gain that to rank up is idiotic, next drop to bronze 5 again and [if you have the aim, if not play Moira] focus on playing damage, you will notice a glaring difference in rank climbing between the two types, which goes against the entire philosophy of ensuring a balanced experience for varied playstyles. For those curious, I try to play a mix between healing and damage with more of a focus on keeping people alive, have a general healing range of 14k-20k healing per match, and a generalized death count between 2-5 per match. I have very often gone 5-4 to 5-9 and somehow ended up with a deranking event, or the rank refusing to change at all after the 5th win. I have tried playing through all 5 wins in one day with multiple attempts at climbing and the result has remained almost constant with minimum climb of 1-2 ranks after 3 or more rank changes. To put that in perspective, I've spent a day playing Moira, focused on just harassing back-lines and healing on occasion with a low general healing per match of 5k-9k, and ended up ranking faster because I was self ensuring elims and higher damage numbers than I would when actually playing to support the team. The reason people will say it is harder in bronze, is because bronze is often filled with trolls, the self proclaimed gods that are actually just feeders, and people like "Awkward" here who Derank to shit on those who are struggling, exasperating the problem, and fucking up the Statistical requirements that the game uses to judge players in specific Elo's against each other. There's a reason you can report people suspected of Deranking under 'Cheating', they are actively fucking the system that determines rank by skill by jacking the statistical skill ceiling for an Elo that should be judging players with low-moderate skill against each other, not trying to wonder why little timmy isnt just pulling the same numbers as a top 500 GM in bronze.
Hahaha. Nice video! And now I expect them to say that it is because you are top 500 and that for the rest it is impossible... In the end over many games, if you are better than the lobby you will climb, no matter the rank or team. Blaming the team is the easiest way to ignore your own mistakes. Everybody expects to be climbing up multiple ranks easily. But they don't realize how many hours Awkward or any other Top 500 has played this game.
To be fair, unless you are actually good enough to completely carry your team it is probably impossible to do this particular challenge. Nobody who is currently in bronze is ever going to get out of bronze if they decide to stop healing entirely, because they won’t kill the enemy quick enough to win the team fight.
It'd be hard for a real bronze player to carry the team though. 😅 their aim and gaming sense wouldn't be good enough. But like you said time and effort would result in ranking up. Learning how to do good positioning, improving their aim and doing great plays will help in going out of bronze. Would be great to see awkward make a vid about coaching a real bronze player while doing comp lmao
Like I always tell my supports, you don't need to heal if the enemy is dead. Healing is usually reactionary, but damage should be always be proactive. Masters on the climb to GM, love when my supports show up on kill feed
This is how i climbed to almost masters as moira an ana. Of course i didnt never heal but understanding when letting a bad teammate die to kill a high priority target. Also for all other roles they need to understand how to avoid damage another way to help climb. Another great video with no filler just truth.
It infuriated me that people were calling you a _healer_ and NO ONE corrected them, not even you. Everyone knows overwatch doesn't have healers, it has supports. There is a difference. Also, that Winston is just jealous you got more elims than him as mercy.
Lol i mean obviously if you are top 500 you can carry without team. But players in bronze are there for a reason. And gameplay in different tiers are completely different. It's starting to look like overwatch from diamond. Lower than that is a complete mess. You could eventually have some good game in bronze or gold, but that is like 1 of 50. Point is if people in bronze try to implement top 500 techs and strats and overall way of playing the game, they will fail. You have to act differently to improve win rate. If you want to see how it is, set your mouse sens to like 50 and try to win game. I mean you have to play like a bronze to see their point.
imagine just queuing into a ranked game at bronze, and this random support just drops 30k damage on your head
In proving his point, he also disproved it at the same time - the only time it's a valid reason to blame your teammates
"Why aren't any of you smurfs, dropping 100 kills smh my head head"
@@Screm he was trying to say that bronze isn't harder than gold lmao
@@Screm no his point is just learn to aim yourself. He says damage damage damage every damn video and you still don't get it
This comment killed me 😂
Yea so whack. Ruined all those games for both teams.
Why isn’t anyone talking about how he had 74 kills with bap 😂😂
I saw that lol nuts
And like 27k damage 😂
REPORTED!!!!!!!! NO HEALING = BAAAAAD
That bap game was insane. Bro was going 1v5
With no shift too 😂
'Guys, I see a new Mercy guide, trust me.' that one killed me, well done Awkward, thanks for reminding people that support is not healer.
Legit had me busting up. Gonna save that one for use LOL
Im still laughing about it ... 3 hours pass and I cant stop. xD
Bronze tank mains to after reading this 💀
"trust me, I read the patch notes, the gun is viable"
Lol, but some people need to remind themselves that healing is one of the only ways to give support in overwatch.
“Healers are supposed to heal” well damage players are supposed to do damage but they ain’t 🤷♀️
Lmao
The role also isn’t called healer it’s called support lmfao
I'm going to use that
To be fair, I have to play more passively and can't deal as much damage if I'm not getting healed at all
I told this to my dps a few days ago and he rage quit xD
I used to be mad at people picking off meta heroes / not doing a good job. After I saw your guides my mindset changed to "if I'm losing games, it's entirely my fault for not carrying, and until I do I don't deserve a higher rank". After that I started winning a lot by fixing my mistakes.
Off meta isn’t an issue, there’s always people in t500 who main off meta characters
agreed its better to play characters that you are comfortable with rather than play a meta character that you are not familiar just bc your teammate told you to switch
Fr he changed my mindset a lot and I watched his zen unranked to gm and I learned a bunch of stuff and I went from plat 5 to plat 1.
@@8kdaren shit made me main zen lol
i get that the mindset shouldn't be blame your teammates but "it's my fault i should've carried" is and even dumber mindset if you're plat+. you literally can't carry a team on your own that's why it's a team game. if you're losing while putting up chamberlain numbers it's not your fault lol any "get better" won't change that
“I healed by accident” - Moira players
This legit shows how most people just do not know how to play moira, just with healing orb alone and some spray here and there u usually have the same if not more healing than any other in the game, while semi free to do dmg... I feel like the biggest problem DPS moiras have is that they use their dmg orb over the healing orb way to often...
he had 4k healing when not healing, so whats moira players excuse? :P
you should do another with only healing to show how much worse it feels
That’d be rly interesting I think. Everyone in bronze seem to think “healers” (as they call them) are only there to heal bot and that’s it when really that’s useless in most ranks but ESPECIALLY bronze with a completely incapable team. It’d be cool to see whether it’s possible to get out of bronze with no damage done at all since it relies so heavily on his teammates. Not to hate on this video, it was entertaining and obviously meant as a joke but for someone of his level, obviously this challenge is easy, bro got over 70 elims in one game as bap LMAO he doesn’t exactly have the dps skill of a bronze. I find it funny how toxic his teammates were even tho he was winning games when they’d probably love it if he was heal botting and had no damage even tho that’d almost definitely get him less wins.
Healbotting is bad but it’s still winnable healbotting, you just rely more on your team
TBH, if you’re heal-focused but surviving and healing the right allies, you can still do a lot in low rank. A lot of low-rank players refuse to help anyone while they are being aggressive, whether it’s because they’re scared or just don’t notice/aren’t prepared, and they end up dumping a lot of healing into fights that are already basically lost (or could only be turned around with damage). If your teammate disengages before you heal them, it’s too late.
@@oscarjenkins7505 I asked why I had the most kills on my team in a match at one point when I wasn't playing for damage and my other dps replies "least healing though". Bear in mind for the entire 2 rounds this person got 2 kills and he wanted healing. He would literally only shoot the Roadhog and get 1shoted constantly. Bear in mind this person was playing Tracer too. People in lower ranks just think supports should jam as much healing as possible up their ass cuz if they die it's not because you got 1shoted by the enemy sniper, it's because you didn't get healed
Heal only can still hard win in bronze
i really like seeing your mental through these games. often the hardest part is not letting my teammates tilt me. its also really funny that they think they won despite their battle mercy, not because of you
I think it's easier for his mental since he knows he's one of the best players in the world haha
Battle mercy with twice their elims lmao, Imagine being on that team and thinking the mercy is the problem
If that is one of your biggest problems, just mute/leave voice chat and squelch text chat from toxic people.
@@TSLMachinegreat advice 👍 I completely disabled all chats a long time ago and am enjoying the game a lot more !
I'd like to see the opposite video too, where you only heal as a support. Because that's the other excuse: "my healing is useless because my teammates are stupid, nothing I do as support matters". Maybe show how smart heals can swing the tempo of games in your favor even if your teammates are low rank.
Id love to see this. This vid already defied my expectations. we already have a baseline for the damage theyre doing and kills theyre getting. we can clearly see what a "standard bronze player" looks like. seeing him trying to save that would be a christmas miracle😂
theres no point doing that, he said in a previous vid the only way to carry matches is with damage not healing so if he gets bad teammates he could infinitely heal them and they could still miss all of their shots and never kill an enemy
@@santiagogalf Hmm, I don't buy that argument. Statistically the other team is not going to have better players than yours, so if your team's missing their shots, the other team is as well. In that scenario, identifying the (relative) strengths of your team and smartly doing healing and other support effects (e.g. discord orb, sleep, anti-nade, damage boost) to give them an edge, plus maybe shotcalling, seems like a reasonable way to climb as a support.
@@Aurora12488 k whatever u say bro it isnt gonna happen im 100% sure lol
@@Aurora12488 statistically, there is a 60 to 70 percent rate the other team gets better players. The rank system in ow2 is like this: "if u are good, your teammates will be bad and the other team will be good". Why? To push u to learn more skills. As a main support, I can vouch for this. I always start the matches healing more than dpsing. And in 80% of the cases, I have to start dpsing more than healing in the second round, if I wanna win. All the games I have won are the ones in which as a support I did a lot of damage. I sometimes have more kills than my dps and tank. And yeah, I am still in bronze even if my stats are clean. I know that's a me problem, I am trying to figure out what matters in ranking up. Cuz my feeling is that the only thing that matters are the stats, not the win/lose rate. But I am still experimenting this.
Crazy that people flame and report you when your team is stomping. Even in diamond, I get yelled at for not heal botting as an Ana main, but since I've started prioritizing damage I've climbed from gold to diamond with a 60%+ win rate. It really works.
I just realized that in the Kiriko game, the enemy Mercy/Moira player who said “bro go heal your team” only did 900 more healing than Awkward did with Suzus and passive healing only.
Challenge: Do the same thing but heals only, no damage.
That's just regular bronze gameplay.
Play lifeweaver challenge?
@@bihazards and that's the point. A good DPS can climb out of bronze. But can a Support? All we saw was a good DPS picking good DPS supports. Guy spent 0 effort on actually being a support. Like wow a dude with great mechanical skill at DPS can do DPS! What a shocker.
@@PhabioTheHost here's the thing. A good support is not a heal bot. If all you do is shoot teammates on ana, you are a bad ana. If all you do is right click on bap, you are a bad bap. Good supports climb out of bronze, not because they are heal bots but because they know how and when to be aggressive and carry the team.
@@PhabioTheHost he literally played battle mercy and you out here saying all he did was pick good dps support?
I love Awkward so much, his content is pure fire the mindset is top tier and his explinations on vods are clear cut. 10/10 the content we've always needed.
Insane how you are very obviously carrying them and they just whine you aren't heal botting them so they can miss all their shots and lose lol
yeah i find it interesting as well especially because when you think about it, youll see that people notice the negatives and the bad about your moves alot easier than the good. really shows you that you shouldnt care much about what people say
and more interesting... the same kind of people could be me and you as well. who knows when was the last time w behaved like these people
@@acativ9 yeah to be fair I'd probably be quite mad if we were standing on payload and my support was blatantly refusing to heal me regardless of how well they were doing 😂 still funny for a youtube video
@Cameron Ray i might be mad for no heals but i never use coms to flame anyone 😂
In his zen unranked to gm in placements people were trying to tell him he was bad lmfao.
There are times people have decent tips, but 90% of the time it's idiots who are mad.
If you don't want to pick the good from the bad, safe to just squelch
"Everything that you learn in the game is improving your ability to learn everything in life" This is beautiful man
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In the junker town match, it's so funny that the other support decided to go Lúcio even though everyone was complaining about you not healing lmao
People in lower ranks also do this. I was tank I asked my Lucio to switch cuz we needed more support than what we had and he tilted at me.
@@SleepyxFish I had a game with Zen Lucio once. Instead of asking them to change I decided to change my play style to account for the lack of heals. Long story short we absolutely stomped because as awkward says there is no such thing as meta below GM.
Edit: Actually it’s happened quite a few times by now, and I’m pretty sure I’ve won more often than lost.
bronze/silver players have this delusion that lucio is one of the best supports to play... not for his speed boost or peel capabilities or even for his damage but because he can heal multiple people at once without having to aim. It's not unusual to run into mercy/lucio or zen/lucio comps and have the lucio lead the lobby in healing by the end of the match against teams running anna or moira.
works great until those players hit a rank level where the sojourn/ashe/widow players can aim and lucio starts dying early in fights cause he's on the ground in the open.
@Incey Wincey zen lucio is brutal, you discord people and speed into them and they die instantly 👀
@@InceyWincey The thing is we had moria lucio (moria was getting caught out and doing more dmg, while the other team had extreme spam with a junk . I'm not a tank player by any means) but I believe I switched up my playstyle during the game, and ended up winning (even though me lucio went back and forth with each other)
its shocking how despite the picks awkward got and wiped half of their team out they still complained about healing even though at most the enemy dps output was zero cause half of them are dead this shows they really do deserve the bronze rank
Well, you see... This is a team game where people that queue a role should fill said role and play in a team instead of being that person who "carries", because that is why they are in the same rank. To be a team and fill the gaps. Not to go in "ooga booga I have no dps I go brr" and then other people on the team literally end up as a fail on the rank up because of having to keep dying for no reason than just the support "having to carry" (you don't, nobody needs to carry, it's not a deathmatch, it's a team game and if people work together it always works)...
This is why you see so manny supports be blamed in low ranks, they see these and end up forgetting to heal at all or not relying on the team ever without even asking for communication and help.
I am a support main, I'm in Plat 1, climbed solo just by staying calm and doing actual comms as people got surprised over callouts in lower elos. Silver 2 on tank and dps for the same reason. Not even doing well in general but doing a team coordination.
@@satamikothis is the most plat shit I’ve ever read lmao
@@kosmonautttt If you want to show me a video of a high elo game where a person carried with nobody else doing anything as they have most stats and picks, disproving me, be my guest.
@@satamiko with how matchmaker is now, that is literally like 35% of games in gm lmao
@@satamikoif you're in plat, you can easily carry, if you're in gm, it's much harder, but you still can, and it's more common to be a team diff, but that's just an excuse and has no real use when saying it.
I know its really a long shot, but I'd love for Blizzard to create a metric for player impact in the game, to shut down false reports. Awkward got reported so many times, and for what? Not conforming to their expectations? He was doubling or tripling the DPS in damage AND eliminations. The delusion you would have to be, to get mad at being carried just blows my mind.
That's why they are stuck in Bronze
“This is my 4th game of overwatch”
Completely forgets that you need to win 50 games before you can play comp
Just to remind you, self healing counts as healing on the scoreboard. Due to support’s passive, you heal automatically
Yeah chat told him after the first game
Super thankful you reminded him 🙏
Going where no support has gone before 💅🏻
Moiras go there all the time, and it's a core part of Zen's gameplay
@@aguyontheinternet8436I know man this comment was praise for creating content that I’ve never seen anyone else make.
I mean 👀👀
Local GM smurfs in bronze to prove that bronze isn’t hard, even knowing your not healing no bronze is going to have to aim you have
He was talking about people who say bronze is harder than gold which is totally wrong, even silver isn't as hard as gold
One of my favorite things Seagull said is that if you wanna get better and climb, you have to take full responsibility. Your team isn’t the reason you can’t climb, not your heals, tank, dps, anything. If you wanna climb, you have to realize, you are the reason that you’re losing, and you alone.
thats for solo que players only
"how are people in bronze" idk probably the gm smurfs doing challenges like this?
"Proving" by being a GM player farming bronze players. Ok then let me prove thag you don't need a goalkeeper to win in football. To do that I am going to roll a team of schoolchildren and I we are only the Argentinian national team.
ik this is like serial necro posting, but he literally won a game while carrying no heal no ult only discord and ONLY RIGHT CLICK please be serious rn
His only point was that school children are worse then Collage students.
You’re making the overwatch community a better place by teaching them the value of self determination.
Mad cuz bad. They can't fathom they are having their butts carried by a dps healer, so they react based on some limited preconception(s) (to win, one must do this and not that), due to their little insecurities and wounded (by fear of loss?) egos triggering the need to vent their spleen on some scapegoat(s).
Honestly super impressed by your displine to not just play the game normally out of habit, amazing video this is the type of overwatch content that more people need to see!
i watched the vod for the stream! insane content awkward im glad i discovered you, ow2 needs more personalities like u imo!
I got yelled at in a game yesterday because I was "doing too much damage as ana which means I was not healing enough." Even though we won he kept yelling at me. thanks for the videos!
You go and play dps and see how fun it become if your support refuse to give you any heals and just say "im supporter not healer, just position yourself better"
Ofc you can still win the game but its a pain in the ass getting there.
@@Abc86aikanyone who doesn’t have an ego and isn’t an idiot wouldn’t give a shit about their support not healing them if they’re winning and topping the charts. Support players shouldn’t try get themselves killed to to heal idiot dps players that are in bad positions, that’s how you get the entire team wiped
@@Abc86aikget a healtpack stop crying bro
Imo you can blame teams only for specific games. If you say "bad teams are the only reason I'm in X rank" then that's copium. If you see your rein charge in alone everytime or see DPS getting a negative KDA then you can point out in that game what was lacking. As bad as the overwatch Matchmaking is, you won't get bad teammates every single time to the point where you can't rank up.
yeah A10 talked about how like 10-20% of games are unwinnable even for him smurfing
You can literally blame your teammates every game and not be wrong. It's the mentality involved that is wrong. If you only blame your teammates, who are likely just as bad as you, you won't see what you're doing wrong and you'll never improve.
bro's really expecting bronze players to get 74 kills on bap on the regular
"Everything you learn in the game is improving your ability to learn everything in life". Thank for always making great and positive contents.
I love how people win and are still mad. It's like they think you are their to serve their enjoyment only and to make their experience better.
i think the complaints about not healing are part of the "default" problem in low ranks. everyone has this conception of how the game is "supposed" to be played. Like that every fight should happen on the cart every time," or that "healers are supposed to heal," etc. They get upset with people they see who don't do these things. But in actuality, they don't understand how the game actually works, so they don't understand why things are happening. This is why low ranked players think Orisa is OP, because they're all shooting at the Orisa and ignoring the two supports keeping the Orisa alive. So Orisa feels really OP when really its their fault for not killing the supports the Orisa needs to stay alive.
This is exactly correct. I've been a bronze silver player for years because I love trying to help my team. I'm never trying to carry via elims, aside from rare opportunities. I understand why I'm low rank. I'm playing the way they expect me to play. I like it. What they expect and how they often play is very wrong though. Healing people that play wrong doesn't often help win games. Of course the other team is playing wrong too, so sometime the support difference matters.
@@ez243 I was an Ana one trick when I was in bronze (currently diamond) and I remember a game on Anubis shortly after I decided I was just going to carry every game. I was basically killing the enemy team almost on my own while shooting the occasional heal shot on a teammate. One of our DPS made a comment about carrying the team and one of our tanks was like, “actually I think our Ana is a Smurf.”
@@transscribe I started playing Lucio non stop in season one and I learned to neglect my team and attack vulnerable people in the back line the season before I was gold now in season two I made it to masters
This is why I always play Lucio and Ana. Terrorize the enemy back line while also providing utility in big team fights on the objective.
bro had teams diffs the whole time ofc you win when your team out heals and out dps the other team💀
The fact dps players are so braindead that their supports will be carrying and they’ll be like “we dont have enough heals” LMAO
I mean yeah In between fights if he’s not healing you, that’s going to be frustrating. They don’t know he’s a top 500 player doing a content video. That genji was literally in his face spamming for heals.
I was still dying from laughter though.
This is the main problem as a support, handling this, rather than the bad performance of your team. Its a struggle to kinda keep your team happy so they do not perform even worse and carrying them. Handling the toxicity, them getting worse bc theyre tilted, u staying focused on what u have to do instead of letting them influence to become a heal bot. And this is some "meta-gaming" supports have to live with because of DPS players usually being braindead or having waaaaay to much ego. This is just an extra layer a support has to do, on top of doing more dmg than a DPS and healing your team enough so they dont die and u win teamfights. The mental is by far the biggest skill a support needs to get, and this is likely harder than technical skills such as aim that you can just practively learn. PPL dont give supports enough credit, and are mostly just oblivious to how this game works, that a healer is not a healer, but a support, etc
Bruh he's refusing to give them even a healing orb or heal inbetween fights. Don't act like you wouldn't be annoyed, I wouldn't enjoy it either if I died an extra 5 times because the zen carrying my ass wouldn't even give me a heal orb.
74 elims and 27k damage as support alone proves the broze gap lmfao
The amount of people complaining after winning is insane lol, i dont get it
It's a GM player smurfing in bronze. To them this guy mine as well be a cheater and he isn't playing the role like he's supposed to meaning team mates will die constantly while you should be healing them
This whole video is strange cause it doesn't prove anything. If you're stuck in bronze/low ranks you probably don't have aim anywhere near this good and aren't going to be making constant picks which are making these wins possible
@@giveitarub7215 If you're "stuck" in bronze you deserve to be so until you're good enough to get out the mechanical skill required to get out of bronze is basically have functioning arms.
@@giveitarub7215 Feel like you totally missed the point of the video
You don't need to have GM aim to go from bronze to gold/plat whatever, you also arent forced to play dps only.
The point is to position yourself better where you can actively deal damage too, obviously healing helps too.
But the more you pressure their team, the more you force them to play safer, force them behind cover = can't deal as much damage to your team = don't need to heal them as much.
@@VitezGonye Yeah I get all those points, but I feel like this still sort of sends the wrong message to low rank players.
Like the DPS moiras wondering why their team is losing when they have 7k damage and 3k healing, 75% of which is probably healing on themselves
@@giveitarub7215 Dps moira wouldnt even be the biggest problem, what I often see even in my games though (high gold) is moiras with like most deaths on team...They misuse fade super bad, which just results in getting little kills and never escaping
Im quite certain all you gotta do for moira is use fade well...obviously aim not even a problem for anyone and then dont do shit like throwing orb into genji deflect
The toxicity despite winning is frankly hilarious
new account so bronze players were low MMR, meaning they were either new or god awful,
High MMR has you playing platinum with the wrong name, try a gazillion hours in quickplay, then start comp, then see the difference.
It baffles me that niggas ignore facts like this, then make a video like this as if they've proved shit.
I loved this so much, the battle Mercy was my favorite 😂 “MERCY FINAL WARNING” 💀
This one cracked me up 😂😂
I play a lot of Ana and I’ve even had my friends be like, man bro they are out healing us, yet we are winning and I have a ton of damage and Elims. It’s annoying when people focus on the numbers way too much.
"it's so cool how this game just shows the stats right there on the scoreboard so nobody can make excuses." - average overwatch copium
Ana has so much utility that basing someone's performance on her based purely on how much healing or damage she has is wild.
Another gem from the CEO of damage.
*countless bronze players were physically and emotionally damaged in the making of this video*
Loved the vid! Especially since you crippled yourself way more than what not healing teammates would look like, you didnt even self-heal on baptise with shift. Pretty impressive aim yo!
No fucking way 35% of the people who saw that poll said bronze is harder than gold like how?????
Mercy with the highest damage in the whole lobby 😤
"Healers are supposed to heal"
"I'm not a healer... I'm a support" *doom music kicks in*
Bronze players are all in the Support=Healer mindset. This video shows that sometimes the best way to support your team is to get eliminations
That's why there is the counter movement of supports≠healers, because they also have utility. The bronze comments in this video shows that the movement isn't working as well as we want it to.
When you want to play damage but want shorter queues and 100 battle points.
Not even in bronze I'm in diamond Plat but cmon no bronze is gonna have gm aim
Hopes and Dreams playing in the background of battle mercy gameplay is the funniest thing I’ve seen all day
the mercy game killed me LMFAOO no shot those are real players
Love the Jet Set Radio soundtrack on Lucio men, great content as always.
Had a game the other day with a moira and mercy duo doing a no healing game and everyone was upset at first but i was laughing my ass off the whole time and we ended up winning shit was actually too funny
lmao. Just get soldier, sombra, and hog. Then no healing required.
"Just go sombra or soldier dude"
That right there is the problem, so every other dps role is now suppose to be unplayable because support players just decided they wont heal?
And hog is the only tank playable from now on if you want some heals because support is called support, not healer?
7:25 was a true anime moment, the dva player's mic even sounded like he was in the cockpit
He's just looking out for his fellow support, while he bravely tanks the damage
How did you have the damage of both your dps combined… as a baptiste LMFAOOO thats insane
4:30 i don't care how much healing you would have done, there is no way your dps was gonna do half the damage you did.
For most people it’s very easy to forgive themselves for something they wouldn’t forgive someone else for. That’s why many people find it easy to just blame their team and say Elo hell while ignoring some of the fight losing plays they’ve made like chasing 1 person into 3 of their teammates and dying, or immediately running from the fight after 1 teammate dies turning a 4v5 into a 3v5 turning a potential comeback into a near guaranteed lost fight. I know that I do it, and I know that I don’t realize it until I watch my vods back but I’m trying to get better at that and at changing my mindset to a “what I can do” instead of “what my team isn’t doing”.
I’ve noticed that too. Someone will be dying the whole game doing something stupid and casual say mb or laugh it off. The second someone else dies they go in on them and blame them for everything. It’s like they are scared someone is going to call them out so they blame someone else to deflect. I’m convinced most people would rather lose the game than look like they had anything to do with the problems on the team.
That Bap window clip left a wet spot in my trousers
Amazing vid bro it’s always funny to see your team flame after you out damage the dps and tank
Tell me about it
they are just jealous
Really hoping to see more of this style of video from you man, very entertaining and educational as always, great work!
Im hard stuck on bronze 1, and i approve this message, lol. Your last video got me to bronze 1 Ana. Now i have to figure out how to climb. This helps i will heal still but it shows me I need to work on my aim a little more. Thanks
Just curious how many deaths do you usually have a game as Anna?
@@niftyfearless9923 now I’m curious about that too
It depends, honestly. I range between 2 to 11 based on my team and how aggressive I play sometimes. When I'm not zoned out and I'm playing my best, I don't die unless the usual flank comes from behind. I still can't blame my team even when i get the usual throwers. If my aim was better and I play the best angles, it's hard for bronze players to catch me unless they have a Smurf account.
@@PradelBjr best advice I could give you to help you get out of bronze (if you even want it lol) prioritize your life before anyone else in the game. Your tank or dps goes and yeets themselves into the enemy and out of your line of sight don’t endanger yourself to heal them. You alive is way more impactful in your games than dead. Stay alive.
Know when a teammate is a lost cause and not worth your resources. Don’t flame them but don’t waste your time on them either.
If your dps or tank is not getting value don’t give them resources. Especially tanks. If your tank is constantly going way too deep and feeding the enemy alt charge and not creating space or getting kills on their back line don’t heal them. It would better for you to damage and try to kill their dps or supports in that situation. Watching replays of your games is great in learning when your team is getting value and when they are not and will inform you when you should give resources and when not to.
If you dps with Ana don’t dps tanks unless they are very low and you can get the kill. 3 shots is all it takes to kill any dps or support in the game.
Last thing, go into your games with a goal. Not “I want to win” but something like, “this game I’d like to not die more than 4 times” if that is a goal ahead of your game you will subconsciously work towards that and play for your life and in turn you will play better and win more. Stay calm in your games and relax. You will play at your potential if you are not tensed up.
Good luck climbing. You can do it!
@@niftyfearless9923 thanks so much. I replay my vids but never know what to look for. Now I do. I will reply once I move up the ranks. Thanks.
I got a few supports doing this challenge in a couple games this weekend but the result was not the same.
Rule #1 of videogaming with your fellow people, focus on yourself, don't worry about the other lovely people. Focus on having a good time and improving as a bonus, the ladder is just a number anyways, it doesn't inform anyone on your self worth. The winners are the people having the most fun, and it comes back, as winning is fun, so you win the most by having the most fun. So just focus on fun, which puts you in the zone and allow you to reach levels of play you didn't know you had in yourself. Plus what's fun about this mental trick is that you will attract other fellow lovely people who also vibe the same as you do, so you have fantastic fun games free of drama, all day long. Welcome to your life, much love, mwah!
i just love how this dude puts everyone on the spot lol, no excuses!
i just recently got into ow2, and im having a blast. Its funny how i was recommended Jay3 and Awkward videos and Jay advocates "support = healer" while Awkward here advocates "support /= healer". very interesting
Who is Rank 1 though?
@@Awkward2 hahah, yeah no clu who Jay3 is 😅 ill take your word then mr rank1 :)
I’d have liked to see you start in bronze 5, just so you can see the ridiculous chaos.
Dude you HAVE to turn this into a full challenge. This was hilarious😂
was this not a full challenge?
Bronze players calling him bad for carrying them is insane 😂
Well think about their pov, they stand 1 cm infront of a supporters face asking for a quick heal and he straight up ignores you , would you just say "omg what a great support player right there"
Love your coaching style. I’d like to see an unranked to Gm with Dva!
4:30 ridiculous amount of damage. My highest on dps is 27k in 25 minutes, you're insane🤯
"zenyatta, JESUS CHRIST!" I felt that.
I'm pretty sure they said to report him cause they thought he was cheating lmao
“Trolling/Smurfing in Low Ranks with GM Aim” epic
Awkward loving zen is actually so perfect, my guy has so much wisdom. Linking improving in overwatch to getting a raise was too woke haha
I love when your team is clearly winning and yet they still complain about "no heals". Some people man
the voice introduction lmaooooo bronze players are aware now
I support doing this just so people who started playing in ow2 stop calling supports "healers"
Why isn't this guys account banned already? He's made so many smurf accounts
League of Legends taught me a very valuable lesson when it comes to gaming.
If you are CONSISTENTLY losing games, the ONLY thing those games have in common is you.
You are the common denominator. Play better. Perform. You'll win more.
Insane content, hope you make more of these😂
"If you blame your team in bronze, you're just a loser, the Dive tanks who try to 1v5 solo enemy back-lines, DPS who only play long range without adequate aim training, and general trolls that will shit talk if you aren't pocketing are NOT why you're losing. It's because you aren't magically pulling Shots and kills like a top 500 player, which makes you a loser no matter what you say." -Awkward 2023
This is idiotic, plain and simple.
And this is ignoring the fact that competitive ranking does actually work against healers in lower Elo since you will receive more ranking points for high damage and elim numbers, over high healing and assist numbers. Don't believe me? Drop yourself to bronze 5, play with the focus of keeping your allies alive, [No, you cannot group queue to try and side skirt the struggle the majority will experience, as most play solo queue], most people in bronze don't have godlike aim so pretending they should just magically gain that to rank up is idiotic, next drop to bronze 5 again and [if you have the aim, if not play Moira] focus on playing damage, you will notice a glaring difference in rank climbing between the two types, which goes against the entire philosophy of ensuring a balanced experience for varied playstyles.
For those curious, I try to play a mix between healing and damage with more of a focus on keeping people alive, have a general healing range of 14k-20k healing per match, and a generalized death count between 2-5 per match. I have very often gone 5-4 to 5-9 and somehow ended up with a deranking event, or the rank refusing to change at all after the 5th win. I have tried playing through all 5 wins in one day with multiple attempts at climbing and the result has remained almost constant with minimum climb of 1-2 ranks after 3 or more rank changes.
To put that in perspective, I've spent a day playing Moira, focused on just harassing back-lines and healing on occasion with a low general healing per match of 5k-9k, and ended up ranking faster because I was self ensuring elims and higher damage numbers than I would when actually playing to support the team. The reason people will say it is harder in bronze, is because bronze is often filled with trolls, the self proclaimed gods that are actually just feeders, and people like "Awkward" here who Derank to shit on those who are struggling, exasperating the problem, and fucking up the Statistical requirements that the game uses to judge players in specific Elo's against each other.
There's a reason you can report people suspected of Deranking under 'Cheating', they are actively fucking the system that determines rank by skill by jacking the statistical skill ceiling for an Elo that should be judging players with low-moderate skill against each other, not trying to wonder why little timmy isnt just pulling the same numbers as a top 500 GM in bronze.
Hahaha. Nice video!
And now I expect them to say that it is because you are top 500 and that for the rest it is impossible...
In the end over many games, if you are better than the lobby you will climb, no matter the rank or team. Blaming the team is the easiest way to ignore your own mistakes.
Everybody expects to be climbing up multiple ranks easily. But they don't realize how many hours Awkward or any other Top 500 has played this game.
To be fair, unless you are actually good enough to completely carry your team it is probably impossible to do this particular challenge. Nobody who is currently in bronze is ever going to get out of bronze if they decide to stop healing entirely, because they won’t kill the enemy quick enough to win the team fight.
It'd be hard for a real bronze player to carry the team though. 😅 their aim and gaming sense wouldn't be good enough. But like you said time and effort would result in ranking up. Learning how to do good positioning, improving their aim and doing great plays will help in going out of bronze. Would be great to see awkward make a vid about coaching a real bronze player while doing comp lmao
We not gonna talk about the mercy with only 3k heals that first game 😂
Like I always tell my supports, you don't need to heal if the enemy is dead. Healing is usually reactionary, but damage should be always be proactive. Masters on the climb to GM, love when my supports show up on kill feed
This also proves how much Moira's heal stats are buffed by her self-heal.
the crying in team chat lmao
This is how i climbed to almost masters as moira an ana. Of course i didnt never heal but understanding when letting a bad teammate die to kill a high priority target. Also for all other roles they need to understand how to avoid damage another way to help climb. Another great video with no filler just truth.
Lmao they have no excuse now 🤣
as he said over and over and over
ok now do bronze dps but 0 damage
this was so fun to watch live
Well obviously, you dont even need top500 skill level to be able to win bronze game with only dps'ing on support.
that was entertaining thnx awkward
Bronzes aren’t saying there supposed to be top 500 tho. A gold stuck in bronze has a lot less carrying potential.
This isn't impressive. Dude is just stroking his ego for content smurfing in bronze. 😴 Just check his recent tweet
He quickly ranks up to diamond on multiple videos. What are you talking about? His doing this because so many believe they need to heal.
It infuriated me that people were calling you a _healer_ and NO ONE corrected them, not even you. Everyone knows overwatch doesn't have healers, it has supports. There is a difference.
Also, that Winston is just jealous you got more elims than him as mercy.
I voted that bronze was harder. I admit it. I did enjoy the video. Very inspiring
noones talking about how he out dmged the whole team with mercy, and yet they are complaining 😂 litteraly the carry
Lol i mean obviously if you are top 500 you can carry without team. But players in bronze are there for a reason. And gameplay in different tiers are completely different. It's starting to look like overwatch from diamond. Lower than that is a complete mess. You could eventually have some good game in bronze or gold, but that is like 1 of 50. Point is if people in bronze try to implement top 500 techs and strats and overall way of playing the game, they will fail. You have to act differently to improve win rate. If you want to see how it is, set your mouse sens to like 50 and try to win game. I mean you have to play like a bronze to see their point.
Tldr copium
6:23 Just noticed it was the enemy mercy flaming him LMAO