QA validates assembly to specifications. The engineers designed it this way, so it would pass QA. I guess Boeing and you have something in common: you have no idea what QA is.
Quite a few people are rushing in to say there’s no issue at all and you have to poke hard or punch the iPad like a punching bag to get this to happen. Meanwhile, the video shows it repeatedly rocking with relatively light pressure. Which is true??? Well, I’m sitting here typing this on my new M4 iPad Pro 13 with the Magic Keyboard. I can honestly say both are amazing, but… the issue is real. It’s true that you can avoid the rocking by using light, gentle pressure, or keeping one hand on the Magic Keyboard or behind the iPad or by keeping it a more upright position (closer to 90 degrees). But putting it in the most comfortable viewing angle for me and applying just a little too much pressure without using your other hand to stabilize and IT WILL ROCK backwards causing the front of the keyboard to lift a bit. With strong hands, a multi-touch gesture in particular could easily generate sufficient force. BTW, the Magic Keyboard for iPad 13 inch is $349, not $300 so it stings even a bit more to have to be careful to avoid this flaw. They could have made the hinge flush. I’m still within the return period, so considering my options from little rubber feet to returning.
@@mamaboy1121 People deciding what tools they want to bring into their lives have every right to consider all opinions and to nitpick about details-especially when spending this much money LOL. So for me, even though the issue is real, it ended up not being a big enough deal to overcome all the things I really like about this new Magic Keyboard. But I understand people who feel it's a deal breaker as well as those who think it's a nothingburger. That's life! Yes, Apple is obviously making money despite this issue. But that's a different topic IMO.
@@MikeG1111_ I understand what you're saying, but there are too many options out there if you feel like this is an issue. I would go to a Ferrari dealership and complain about there cars if Lexus has better options. As I said, Apple will continue being Apple with or without your dollar.
@@franciscoferod1998 Test something that new iPad Pro works In the old version of keyboard case with modifications because the smart connection is the same
I just tried in my local Apple Store and it‘s actually not that bad, if you use it as a touch screen and not as a punching bag. And on the 11 inch version the issue is even smaller and really neglectable for everyone. The overall built of the new Magic Keyboards has significantly improved compared to the previous versions though (which weren‘t bad at all) at they now feel absolutely on par with the keyboard of a regular Macbook to me. So, contrary to this short video, the new Magic Keyboards are actually the biggest improvements of them all, I would say.
If Steve Jobs would have tried this out before production, he would’ve thrown it out a window and say “this is shit, start over”. He was an ass but he knew what a good product was.
@@eldritchbeauty he literally threw the first iPod into a fish tank, saw bubbles come out of it and said to his team “make it smaller” So you are wrong
Totally agree. Hate the new Keyboard. Also it sits lower and the viewing angle is way further away, and the metal hinge scratches everything. Last years was perfect. Need to return it and find a good third party alternative now.
My 11" Pro with the new Magic keyboard works perfect with min rocking just like the older magic keyboard. The only difference is that this new keyboard is much better in every way. The hinge gap is correct as you say but honestly no issue with its use
I mean if I have it in the Magic Keyboard I’m going to use the trackpad as often as possible. So it’s rare that I’m actually interacting with the screen when it’s in the keyboard.
“The line between them is blurring” No it’s not. One is a computer than you can have full access to and run whatever you want. The other is a toy hobbled by its OS for any greatness it could have because running software outside the App Store must be a “security risk”
Biggest issue isn’t when it’s open… the biggest problem is trying to open the Magic Keyboard… the Comcast point between the screen and keyboard is too smooth. There’s nowhere to grab to pull it open… Plus, the metal hinge makes it impossible to use the friction of a table top to help open when it’s laying flat…. The iPad just slides away from you…
Tell me you got paid by Samsung without telling me you got paid by them. I have the 13 inch with the keyboard. I have two actually both don’t do this. I also don’t aggressively touch my iPad. Just the normal pressure
It is the downside, for sure. The upside is vast and the experience is better than a MacBook for my use case. I use it as a main device in and out of work day in day out since it launched and it’s been basically perfect aside from that one flaw. If the table isn’t perfectly flat it rocks. On a flat surface it’s pretty good, though.
I’m convinced they do this crap on purpose. All the r&d they do and stuff ends up like this. Example: the charge port on the bottom of that mouse. They did that just so people would talk about it.
The 11 inch is much better. Apple had plenty of time to get this right. I also read quite a few complaints about the IPad 13in falling off the magnets and some have to remove and reapply the IPad, so the keyboard can work. Very disappointing.
The 11 inch is much better. Apple had plenty of time to get this right. I also read quite a few complaints about the IPad 13in falling off the magnets and some have to remove and reapply the IPad, so the keyboard can work. Very disappointing.
Dude is paid by 3rd party accessory companies, so he has to shit on any accessories from Apple just to promote the 3rd party ones without logic. First of all, what he didn't think of is that you do not need to touch the screen if you have the keyboard. If you will be touching your screen that much, then you don't need the keyboard.
@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354that’s a completely anecdotal response, start saying I instead you bud. I actually touch the screen and so do others when it’s docked 🤯
@@AzrealJ Then in that case you don't need keyboard. Sell it to me I give you $100 for it, seems like you have an unusual tendency to buy shit you don't need that's unlike you.
Plus you can clearly see he’s pressing substantially harder on the new one while feather-light touching the others. Also the one he said “had no seesawing action” was literally doing that as he was saying it 😂
Very good catch 👌. Thanks for pointing it out . We use ipad as touch most of the times and this new magic keyoard really sucks in using ipad. We dont do 24hrs typing in ipad. I wish apple watches this video . Huge waste of money which is not usable for ipad.
Their QA team should all be sacked as that is the biggest mistake and one of the features to stay away from. Someone else please come up with an alternative as I don’t mind charging via usbc
Here’s a fatal flaw, how hard do people really have to press on an iPad screen? Almost barely any pressure, I also use my Apple Pencil pro which here’s a fatal flaw IT DOESN’T, you UA-camrs really do pick up on very minimalistic things when really you ain’t paying for an iPad, your returning it, it’s all about content creation with you folks, I’ve yet to come across a real genuine person who uses it for work and picks up on your “fatal flaws” if you really want something to punch go to a gym or here’s an idea DONT BE SO HEAVY HANDED ON THE MOST SOPHISTICATED IPAD OR TABLET to date
This is ridiculous. I’ve got it and all you need to do is not push it all the way back if you’re gonna use the touch screen. Frankly I love that it goes further back than the OG Magic Keyboard.
That just sounds more like a work around. If the previous keyboard didn’t have this issue with a hard touch, this keyboard shouldn’t have it either. And even if the tipping wasn’t THAT big of an issue, I would expect this from a 3rd party product that’s $100, not from a first party accessory that is over $300.
Hey so random but the company Verizon promoted for their Bluetooth apple iPad Pro keyboard like don’t exist. I had a crap ton of issues with this keyboard…it was a gift and I have only had it like 6 months. Anyone know how to get either a replacement or a in contact with the company? Verizon obviously isn’t helpful….and the keyboard was like 200+ bucks.
I trusted you but clearly the angle you put them at was different. The centre of gravity changes when you change them like that. Are you trying to get views?
So by your logic, the angles that Apple gives is somehow this man's fault...if you suck on apple's carrot, that's fine, but when you type this, its just embarrassing.
I don't have this issue with the 13". You really have to push your finger hard to make it rock like that. Normal tapping is just fine, and I almost always have one hand still on the palmrest when I'm using my iPad like this. All the new benefits still outweigh this silly complaint.
You know the difference between a touch screen and poke really hard screen right? And where’s your other hand usually? Yes, resting on the f-ing keyboard
Apple is a failure in itself. And there is another customer which shows another part of the truth. Seems like they laid off their complete quality control team. Well done! At least it probably has "Titanium", that's the most important, as well as those inflated prices which customers have to pay if they want a device without a headphone jack, micro-SD card slot and ugly "design".
Well, when Apple hired people from the Boeing QA department, this was the result! 😂😂😂
This made me laugh, thanks for that 😂
QA validates assembly to specifications. The engineers designed it this way, so it would pass QA.
I guess Boeing and you have something in common: you have no idea what QA is.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@hou950I’m sorry.
Lmaoooo 😭😂😂 Boeing isn’t catching any breaks ☠️
Quite a few people are rushing in to say there’s no issue at all and you have to poke hard or punch the iPad like a punching bag to get this to happen. Meanwhile, the video shows it repeatedly rocking with relatively light pressure. Which is true??? Well, I’m sitting here typing this on my new M4 iPad Pro 13 with the Magic Keyboard. I can honestly say both are amazing, but… the issue is real.
It’s true that you can avoid the rocking by using light, gentle pressure, or keeping one hand on the Magic Keyboard or behind the iPad or by keeping it a more upright position (closer to 90 degrees). But putting it in the most comfortable viewing angle for me and applying just a little too much pressure without using your other hand to stabilize and IT WILL ROCK backwards causing the front of the keyboard to lift a bit. With strong hands, a multi-touch gesture in particular could easily generate sufficient force.
BTW, the Magic Keyboard for iPad 13 inch is $349, not $300 so it stings even a bit more to have to be careful to avoid this flaw. They could have made the hinge flush. I’m still within the return period, so considering my options from little rubber feet to returning.
So what? It’s all nitpicking at this point. They’ll still make money regardless 😂😂😂
@@mamaboy1121 People deciding what tools they want to bring into their lives have every right to consider all opinions and to nitpick about details-especially when spending this much money LOL.
So for me, even though the issue is real, it ended up not being a big enough deal to overcome all the things I really like about this new Magic Keyboard. But I understand people who feel it's a deal breaker as well as those who think it's a nothingburger. That's life!
Yes, Apple is obviously making money despite this issue. But that's a different topic IMO.
@@MikeG1111_ I understand what you're saying, but there are too many options out there if you feel like this is an issue. I would go to a Ferrari dealership and complain about there cars if Lexus has better options. As I said, Apple will continue being Apple with or without your dollar.
I have a 13" and haven't noticed, but I freely admit, I do have a light touch, as I know I don't need to poke it hard to get it to work.
It is a setting you can go to settings and type touch to click and enable that option
I can confirm that it doesn’t happen with the 11” one
As in the M4 11” Pro with this new keyboard is fine?
@@mentalman1369 yeah. I have the m4 11” with the new keyboard and it doesn’t happen with that one
@@franciscoferod1998 Test something that new iPad Pro works In the old version of keyboard case with modifications because the smart connection is the same
@@NicVandEmZ although it has same smart connection, the magnet distribution is different so it doesn't stay on the right place
Might have to do with the weight of the 13” as well. Since the 11” isn’t showing the same rocking gate issue
I just tried in my local Apple Store and it‘s actually not that bad, if you use it as a touch screen and not as a punching bag. And on the 11 inch version the issue is even smaller and really neglectable for everyone.
The overall built of the new Magic Keyboards has significantly improved compared to the previous versions though (which weren‘t bad at all) at they now feel absolutely on par with the keyboard of a regular Macbook to me.
So, contrary to this short video, the new Magic Keyboards are actually the biggest improvements of them all, I would say.
Yes this guy hits the ipad as if hitting to enemy at war 😂😂
@@federaldelii for $300 it's still unacceptable
I believe that you're the type of person that marketing just grapes all day.
I got a surface pro doesnt do that😅
If Steve Jobs would have tried this out before production, he would’ve thrown it out a window and say “this is shit, start over”.
He was an ass but he knew what a good product was.
Nah, most of the good design was because of Jonny Ives. Steve was annoying idiot who wanted to keep the iPhone at 3.5in. Womp womp
jobs would not have agreed to keyboard or pencil in the first place.
i dunno why people still idolize jobs so much
Jobs would have done no such thing. The man was a marketer, not a designer or an engineer. You give that man credit for work he didn't do.
Didn't Apple (under Jobs) release an iPhone that wouldn't get on a cellular network?
@@eldritchbeauty he literally threw the first iPod into a fish tank, saw bubbles come out of it and said to his team “make it smaller”
So you are wrong
Good catch.
Totally agree. Hate the new Keyboard. Also it sits lower and the viewing angle is way further away, and the metal hinge scratches everything. Last years was perfect. Need to return it and find a good third party alternative now.
My 11" Pro with the new Magic keyboard works perfect with min rocking just like the older magic keyboard. The only difference is that this new keyboard is much better in every way. The hinge gap is correct as you say but honestly no issue with its use
I don't think anything could convince you that for $300, this is not acceptable
Hooooooow did they not catch this
now try sitting it on your lap and see if it still tips over without any touching
just get a wireless keyboard and a mice. for a lot cheaper price and keep a overall lighter profile
The 13" air is probably the worst that I've seen in person. It doesn't hold the iPad well. This is a problem when people use these in their laps.
In addition to this, I saw someone else complain that you cannot open the iPad with a single hand like the MacBooks because the hinges are too stiff.
I mean if I have it in the Magic Keyboard I’m going to use the trackpad as often as possible. So it’s rare that I’m actually interacting with the screen when it’s in the keyboard.
“The line between them is blurring”
No it’s not. One is a computer than you can have full access to and run whatever you want. The other is a toy hobbled by its OS for any greatness it could have because running software outside the App Store must be a “security risk”
Is the problem with the larger iPads only? Is the 10.9in okay?
you expected too much from Apple haha. Steve Jobs is no longer around, you couldnt expect the same brain apples used to have
Thank you! I am wondering if the new aluminium keyboard would scratch the display?
The keyboard is fine. Your desk is just holding it wrong.
It’s actually annoying to have the hinge uncovered too
100% agreed this is a tough design flaw.
Touch, dont push
With a glass screen protector, you'll push....
You need the solution? Apple will sell it for additional $500 later. Take it or leave it, typical Apple core competencies.
Biggest issue isn’t when it’s open… the biggest problem is trying to open the Magic Keyboard… the Comcast point between the screen and keyboard is too smooth. There’s nowhere to grab to pull it open…
Plus, the metal hinge makes it impossible to use the friction of a table top to help open when it’s laying flat…. The iPad just slides away from you…
Tell me you got paid by Samsung without telling me you got paid by them. I have the 13 inch with the keyboard. I have two actually both don’t do this. I also don’t aggressively touch my iPad. Just the normal pressure
It is the downside, for sure. The upside is vast and the experience is better than a MacBook for my use case. I use it as a main device in and out of work day in day out since it launched and it’s been basically perfect aside from that one flaw. If the table isn’t perfectly flat it rocks. On a flat surface it’s pretty good, though.
the Smart Keyboards were the most stable and fun to type on.
Uh oh. You got Cook biting his knees somewhere in the corner playing REM 😂
Wow it’s like nobody tested it or something 😭 omg
Confused... So the magic keyboard for the 11 inch is ok but rhe 13 inch is a no go?
I can't speak for the 13", but my 11" is fine.
This is THE reason I’m not upgrading from iPad Air with Smart Folio keyboard. Such a shame because I want the better screen and speakers
They forgot
I don’t know why you’re poking your screen but it’s supposed to be a touch. Remember??
I’m convinced they do this crap on purpose. All the r&d they do and stuff ends up like this. Example: the charge port on the bottom of that mouse. They did that just so people would talk about it.
literally returned mine day 2 for the 11”
apple has fallen very far
@@Nemlvlmao i promise they are doing just fine
Tim Apple doesn't GIS, fanboys will buy anyway
Mine doesn’t do that. It doesn’t rock.
I think you are lying.
physics, rotation radius, etc… for 13 inch one makes sense
It wobbles more, yes. But is it a bis deal? When I use the Magic Keyboard, I normally don‘t touch the screen very often anymore.
I’ll never understand how this shit gets past QC and into production.
Same issue with m4 11 inch? Or only 13?
The 11 inch is much better. Apple had plenty of time to get this right. I also read quite a few complaints about the IPad 13in falling off the magnets and some have to remove and reapply the IPad, so the keyboard can work. Very disappointing.
The 11 inch is much better. Apple had plenty of time to get this right. I also read quite a few complaints about the IPad 13in falling off the magnets and some have to remove and reapply the IPad, so the keyboard can work. Very disappointing.
Apple's stupidity has gone from annoying to unacceptable in a lot of cases
Wow, that’s a huge deal but you do have to touch with force to get it to rock. Never had this issue with the prior model
Dude is paid by 3rd party accessory companies, so he has to shit on any accessories from Apple just to promote the 3rd party ones without logic. First of all, what he didn't think of is that you do not need to touch the screen if you have the keyboard. If you will be touching your screen that much, then you don't need the keyboard.
@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354that’s a completely anecdotal response, start saying I instead you bud. I actually touch the screen and so do others when it’s docked 🤯
@@AzrealJ Then in that case you don't need keyboard. Sell it to me I give you $100 for it, seems like you have an unusual tendency to buy shit you don't need that's unlike you.
@@shuggfilmzandstudio2354 are you stupid? Wait till you figure out some laptops have touchscreens and keyboards attached… crazy right
Why would they make the keyboard base thinner and lighter than the iPad? Makes no sense.
İt gets worse when your using it on your bed
Mine doesn’t wobble. Click bait.
Your anecdotal experience doesn’t speak for everyone… this is not clickbait
You can stop them from rocking, but you need to fold a few hundred-dollar bills and place those underneath the keyboard.
This guy is exaggerating for clicks. The new 2024 Magic Keyboard is a huge improvement over the older Magic Keyboard.
Plus you can clearly see he’s pressing substantially harder on the new one while feather-light touching the others. Also the one he said “had no seesawing action” was literally doing that as he was saying it 😂
Their engineers stopped engineering.
Very good catch 👌. Thanks for pointing it out .
We use ipad as touch most of the times and this new magic keyoard really sucks in using ipad.
We dont do 24hrs typing in ipad.
I wish apple watches this video . Huge waste of money which is not usable for ipad.
Apple the pinnacle of looking at the perfection of each products.. my foot
Apple should hire you!
Does this happen on the 11” or just the 13”
that sucks, was about to order one for me
If someone can make a rubber foot for the hinge, we could fix this problem!
As a work around you can Velcro tape your desk and stop using it at Starbucks
Does the new Magic Keyboard (w function keys) fit the M1 iPad Pro?
Returned the iPad and Keyboard today partly because of it
11 or 13? I do not have this issue with the 11.
Their QA team should all be sacked as that is the biggest mistake and one of the features to stay away from. Someone else please come up with an alternative as I don’t mind charging via usbc
This doesn't happen with my 11" one.
Maybe I got lucky?
Somehow, I believe you. The rest of these people gush over new tech, and forget about their own standards.
Now go and make 3D printed bump to sell. Business opportunity indeed.
How fatal is it?!?!?
for $300.....dead.
That’s an amazing catch
That whole division probelmble getting fired ..
100% right.
So just gluing a long strip of tiny round plastic should make it flush
lies. my keyboard isn't rocking
What u got?
Mine is fine - you bust have a faulty one - no rocking here
You touch it like a toddler it’s going to tip…..
Here’s a fatal flaw, how hard do people really have to press on an iPad screen? Almost barely any pressure, I also use my Apple Pencil pro which here’s a fatal flaw IT DOESN’T, you UA-camrs really do pick up on very minimalistic things when really you ain’t paying for an iPad, your returning it, it’s all about content creation with you folks, I’ve yet to come across a real genuine person who uses it for work and picks up on your “fatal flaws” if you really want something to punch go to a gym or here’s an idea DONT BE SO HEAVY HANDED ON THE MOST SOPHISTICATED IPAD OR TABLET to date
This is ridiculous. I’ve got it and all you need to do is not push it all the way back if you’re gonna use the touch screen. Frankly I love that it goes further back than the OG Magic Keyboard.
That just sounds more like a work around. If the previous keyboard didn’t have this issue with a hard touch, this keyboard shouldn’t have it either.
And even if the tipping wasn’t THAT big of an issue, I would expect this from a 3rd party product that’s $100, not from a first party accessory that is over $300.
Anybody else having the biggest crush on him? 😭😍
i typed this with the magic keyboard
Apple have been dropping the ball a lot lately.
They shouldn't have made the keyboard lightest and thinnest ever
Hey so random but the company Verizon promoted for their Bluetooth apple iPad Pro keyboard like don’t exist. I had a crap ton of issues with this keyboard…it was a gift and I have only had it like 6 months. Anyone know how to get either a replacement or a in contact with the company? Verizon obviously isn’t helpful….and the keyboard was like 200+ bucks.
anybody who needs a keyboard with an ipad actually needs a macbook air.
I don‘t understand your comment. Explain.
And I think your pushing on it and not using it how real people would. Think this is click bait
Woah good catch,yeah i think apple messed up with that one
Someone is getting fired
design fail
well I only wanted the 11 inch anyway xD
I trusted you but clearly the angle you put them at was different. The centre of gravity changes when you change them like that. Are you trying to get views?
So by your logic, the angles that Apple gives is somehow this man's fault...if you suck on apple's carrot, that's fine, but when you type this, its just embarrassing.
so return complained too much
Get $89 magic keyboard.
This doesn't happen with my 13 inch m4 iPad / magic keyboard
Nice joke. Dont push just touch
$350! 😂
They need to send you stuff before they make 200k of them.
And it's $300 wow
Apple is now cutting Corners 😢
Fatal? Exaggerate much?
it's still janky for $300
@@grissom3310 I’ve been using it extensively for a week now… No issues since I don’t push on the touch screen like I have hoofs for hands. 🤷🏻♂️
Just stick a strip of foam to fill the gap between the hinge and the table.
Apple is disappointing year by year
I don't have this issue with the 13". You really have to push your finger hard to make it rock like that. Normal tapping is just fine, and I almost always have one hand still on the palmrest when I'm using my iPad like this. All the new benefits still outweigh this silly complaint.
If you watch closely, 1st time he touch very light, I think the problem is he touched the top of the ipad and you touch the middle?
oh yeah making excuses for a 300 dollar keyboard that moves like a 10 dollar one
Where is Monty?
You know the difference between a touch screen and poke really hard screen right? And where’s your other hand usually? Yes, resting on the f-ing keyboard
My 11 pro does not do that
Apple is a failure in itself. And there is another customer which shows another part of the truth. Seems like they laid off their complete quality control team. Well done! At least it probably has "Titanium", that's the most important, as well as those inflated prices which customers have to pay if they want a device without a headphone jack, micro-SD card slot and ugly "design".