First Phantoms in Vietnam

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  • Опубліковано 19 чер 2024
  • On the 5th of August 1964, the US Navy begins operations of a new aircraft over Vietnam. This new multirole aircraft - the F4 Phantom - will come to define Vietnam War era jet combat, but during these early missions the aircraft was still a work in progress. Today we look at the story of the first F4s in Vietnam.
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  • @jernejfunkl8300
    @jernejfunkl8300 10 днів тому +3

    Phantom is a legend !!

  • @jonathanflugge3557
    @jonathanflugge3557 13 днів тому +8

    The THUNDERBIRDS & BLUE ANGELS both flew the PHANTOM at the sametime.

    • @raafdocumentaries
      @raafdocumentaries  13 днів тому +7

      It's amazing that they used such a big aircraft for that sort of display flying - would have been fantastic to see. Loved the recent Blue Angels documentary!

  • @xaero76
    @xaero76 13 днів тому +9

    The F-4 Phantom II was good at its job early on with mid / long range engagements, however after a few friendly kill incidents the top brass decided that fighters must make visual contact or visual identification before they can shoot to kill... and so this bought the F-4 Phantom II with no internal gun into dog fight situations.... and naturally in that kind of situation, the F-4 Phantom II begun to rack up major losses in combat.... it lead to the development of the F-4E variants, but the Navy did not take on the F-4E....

    • @Chilly_Billy
      @Chilly_Billy 13 днів тому

      The F-4E was terribly unsuited to the main role of USN Phantoms, namely detecting and engaging large Soviet bombers at long range and over water.

    • @xaero76
      @xaero76 13 днів тому +4

      @@Chilly_Billy That was not the role for the Phantom IIs anyway, thats why they developed the F-14 as the Fleet Defender

  • @Avofan
    @Avofan День тому

    I remember at the 2016 Luke Days Air Show, a pilot brought a Phantom as a static display. He and the Phantom were the big dog on campus because many F-16 and 35 pilots wanted to fly it.

  • @humbertolucianohernandezda8590

    This combat jet an iconic warrior of Vietnam War for brave pilots a modern engeeniering piece.

  • @smoh7793
    @smoh7793 10 днів тому +2

    Awesome use of the new dcs module.

  • @BruceK10032
    @BruceK10032 12 днів тому +1

    I never saw F4Es in USMC markings before (~4:55). This has some interesting visuals, not all of them related directly to the topic. USS Princeton (LPH-5) is an example seen around 3:00.

  • @BillHalliwell
    @BillHalliwell 13 днів тому +5

    Odd that this channel made no mention of F-4s in Australian service. We had our own 'first Phantom' experience. Cheers Bill H. (ex RAAF)

    • @550r
      @550r 12 днів тому +3

      They have a separate video just on the F-4 in Australian service from maybe about a year or so ago

    • @raafdocumentaries
      @raafdocumentaries  10 днів тому +3

      We actually put a link at the start of the video and in the notes for "Phantom F-4E in Australian Service" - plus we've a couple of interviews with former F-4 pilots.

  • @rickbates9232
    @rickbates9232 12 днів тому +1

    Brilliant information on very little discussed early combat of the F4 over Vietnam ... BTW ... complete nit picking but the F4 shown for Terence Murphy @5:12 showed the carrier markings as the Connie CVA-60 ... but VF-96 was apparently on the Ranger CVA-61 for that cruise. Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VF-96#Vietnam Loved the use of computer graphics brought it all to life far better than old grainy B&W video.

  • @ebinoregon8647
    @ebinoregon8647 День тому

    If you had ever heard an F4 Phantom flying "low and slow" over a valley (I miss that sound) you would never forget it. A fabulous fighter (even without a gun) but not worth stink for ground support except for bombs. A fighter should remain a fighter. For ground attack and infantry support the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt is the king. No doubt.

  • @misterbig9025
    @misterbig9025 13 днів тому +5

    I'm hoping to see more Australian footage.

    • @raafdocumentaries
      @raafdocumentaries  13 днів тому +4

      You've made that know a number of times and more Australian content is in the works. Hold on! It's coming.

    • @petethebastard
      @petethebastard 13 днів тому

      !What misterbig9025 said!
      I'll wait...

  • @shailendrakumarsuman4628
    @shailendrakumarsuman4628 8 днів тому

    Make a video on Japanese 6th gen aircraft and bae tempest also.

  • @JohnComeOnMan
    @JohnComeOnMan 13 днів тому +3

    Damn that's some sweet cgi.

    • @dunbar555
      @dunbar555 13 днів тому +1

      thats DCS

    • @MOTV88
      @MOTV88 13 днів тому +1

      With inaccurate tail codes and paint schemes galore. The thumbnail shows F-4s in 1980s Ferris camo, so much for "first phantoms".

  • @user-pj3ch8ou2h
    @user-pj3ch8ou2h 9 годин тому

    What are the differences in the Phantoms flown by the Air Force and Navy?

  • @Jim-nt7xy
    @Jim-nt7xy 10 днів тому

    Why was Oz even involved in Vietnam?

  • @Jonsonsan
    @Jonsonsan 10 днів тому

    The Good old NATO Diesel!

  • @godfree2canada
    @godfree2canada 11 днів тому

    Tonkin based on a lie

    • @RatherCrunchyMuffin
      @RatherCrunchyMuffin 10 днів тому

      The first incident on 2 August did happen when the USS Maddox intel ship was attacked by North Vietnamese torpedo boats. The second alleged incident on 4 Aug never occurred. The skipper of the Maddox, CAPT Herrick, initially reported radar and sonar contacts which the crew did actually fire on, but the same night CAPT Herrick reported that those were probably in fact weather anomolies.

  • @xuldevelopers
    @xuldevelopers 13 днів тому +2

    Please, don't use in-game footage. This is a hallmark of clickbait UA-camrs. Real-world label + videos of gameplay. Nah.

    • @Gigachadent
      @Gigachadent 12 днів тому

      "Crystal Kingdom denies your request, proceed with hostilities"

    • @raafdocumentaries
      @raafdocumentaries  10 днів тому +1

      It should be obvious by now that we are not a "clickbait UA-camr" but in-game footage affords us to illustrate stories that otherwise wouldn't have the footage or we are left with photos. If it's more engaging for the viewer and we are trying our best to be true to the aircraft type/history, I don't see it as a problem. We've had a disclaimer (see any of our video descriptions) that explains our use of 'recreated scenes'.

    • @xuldevelopers
      @xuldevelopers 10 днів тому

      @@raafdocumentaries My recommendation is: don't. Rather shorten the video instead of keeping it longer by inserting fake imagery into otherwise factual and real footage.
      Do not force the user to scrutinize the details of the displayed imagery to determine if it is fake or not. It is distracting. If you must include fake imagery, then label it clearly with a watermark. Realize that some fake imagery is quite realistic and it takes time for users to discern what they are looking at.
      Your argument about increased engagement is precisely what I dislike-using fake imagery, which is often hard to distinguish from genuine footage, to keep users engaged. That is shady. Disclaimers? Who reads them? Alibistic.
      "Being true to history" is incompatible with the use of unlabeled fakes.

    • @vincen.3590
      @vincen.3590 10 днів тому

      @@xuldevelopers geez man.

    • @smoh7793
      @smoh7793 10 днів тому

      @@xuldevelopers BOOHOO, WOMP WOMP, WA WA WA.