Thanks Matthew! Yeah really surprised how many tones this thing packed. Big differences in output and sound with all 3 pickup settings for each pickup.
It had a lot of similarities to the Apocalypse in terms of build quality and style but very different finally. The 40DC pickups were a huge improvement
I only started playing bass a little over a year ago, at 49 yrs old. I started with a Squier Affinity jazz, which mine turned out to be a great bass. Since then I have a acquired a Squier VM 70's Jazz and a mint Peavey Forum pj. Went to a GC 2 weeks ago to look for a higher quality bass. Really thought I would walk out with a Fender or Sterling, something "traditional" . Then I played a Schecter Stiletto Studio 4 in trans purple that they had. Dude, I fell in love and that is what I brought home. Never thought that would be "the bass". Really impressed with Schecter.
Thanks for sharing, Brian! Congrats on your new bass! Yeah man, Schecter as a brand is often pigeonholed into the 'metal' genre, when they make a wide range of basses and they're very flexible! Enjoy it :)
Thanks man. ME TOO! I think they have the same kinda spacing as this, which bums me out. I want to try out the 4... but I also want to know how the B is... choices choices.
@@TheBeardofDOOM I too am curious about the Fishman Fluence pickups. Schecter and Cort (the A4) are the only companies I know of producing basses with them.
I like this one a lot, the jury's out on the pickups but it's definitely what I consider a ready to gig bass. And the slightly tighter string spacing you we're all about is definitely an acquired taste, but one that a lot of us have come to prefer especially in a longer than average scale length 5/6 string. John Myung from Dream Theater is a perfect example. He prefers such tight spacing, his amazing and unique, all finger style on his custom Bongo 6 speaks for itself it's works for some really well.
Just ordered this bass after trying a flawed one at a pawn shop. I think it needs to be stated that it has a phenomenal B string. This is the first bass outside of Dingwall that I've tried that the B string doesn't sound like a distant cousin to the other strings or flat at all. I was debating between the aesthetics of a 35" scale jazz style bass from Jericho or Schecter but the tone options on here are crazy. Thanks for the in depth review
I just snagged a 4 string EX version of this bass, and I’m looking forward to fiddling with it. Just wanted to post a thank you! Thanks for your hard work and for creating these resources fellow bassists can utilize for years to come.
@@liamjenkins82 It is a great bass. The electronics setup is really something special. It excels at mimicking other basses native tones, but it does so with authority. If I could, I would retrofit these electronics in all of my Basses. Factor in the nice light weight and the extremely thin neck profile, I can’t complain about anything.
@@jonsidell3338 cheers for the reply. That sounds awesome. Just sold my house and I'm thinking of buying an up market bass. My first. I had a riot once but the neck meant I had to tune and set it up every time I picked it up. Hope this wouldn't be the same. Sounds like an awesome bass
@@liamjenkins82This one has a 5 piece neck with carbon fiber reinforcement rods, so hopefully the neck won’t be an issue. Good luck with the bass and new residence.
Thank you for a great demo - can't tell you how many demos I see for 5 string basses where the player only plays 4 strings. I just ordered one of these from GC in Oklahoma City, used. You can't order a new one from GC currently. Can't wait for it to arrive. Thanks for the demo.
I'm a Schecter and Ibanez fanboi. Such high quality all around for prices that are actually affordable to normies like myself. Great demo of this top shelf bass geetar
Thanks TJ! I am as well. They offer some really innovative designs that can cover a wide array of genres and tones, and they kind of make something for everyone. I appreciate their stuff a lot more than places that make vanilla P and J copies only.
@@LowEndLobster im sure you have probably already reviewed one at some point, but if you havent, the GnL L2500 Tribute series is an absolute beast. The electronics are crazy in the best possible way. Kind of reminds me of a Sting Ray on roids. I reluctantly traded my Schecter J5 for one, and after have a few weeks im so glad i pulled the trigger. I think it would be right up your alley.
They make a four string with 35" scale (the EX) and if it has 19mm spacing (I might even be good with a little narrower) I might have found what I'm looking for.
I bought a CV-4 and it impressed me so much that I sold my Warmoth Deluxe 5 parts bass and replaced it with a CV-5. I found that I like narrower spacing as the amount of strings goes up. Also, your reviews are awesome and your grooves are so on point!
Also, the CV-4 and CV-5 have the same (or very similar) pickups and electronics as the Apocalypse. I liked the more "vintage" look of the CV series over the Apocalypse. Also, my favorite config is single coil neck with series bridge. It sounds a bit like a Lakland 94 (or 02 for the Skylines) to my ears.
Thanks Matthew! I like the look of those CV series basses. Was curious about the pickups as they relate to this. I appreciate the compliments my friend :)
@@LowEndLobster I think I watch you because you play what I like, lol! Also, your demeanor and overall cadence keeps me interested. Those CV schecters play early close to the Fender Roscoe Beck (the best basses Fender ever made IMO) for about 500-700 bucks. I put those instruments up there against my G&L L2000 for tonal versatility.
I'm a long time fan of schecter. My first real modern bass was an Omen extreme from '06 for about $500. I still have it to this day and it still performs nearly on par with my musicman that costs over 3x the price. Sure, it's a little simple, but the quality on every tiny piece of it is completely up to snuff. They're masters of putting the absolute minimum of what you need to have an amazing sounding instrument without sacrificing anything that makes it useful.
Schecter is really great for how little I see them around. They are slowly creeping their way into the hands of bigger artists, but I hardly hear people talk about them, and most dislike them because of their “metal” look and target audience. I remember the first time I played one at a guitar center, it blew every other bass I tried out of the water when it came to comfort, and the sound was really good as well. Now I own a Stiletto Custom 4, and my only major issue is that I should of gotten a 5 string instead. It kicks major ass, and everything from slap to shredding feels and sounds awesome.
First off thank you for the long video, I know they're a pain, but believe, much appreciated. Now...Schecter...I think they make some neat basses, but I usually pass when I'm ready to buy a new bass, don't know exactly why. I own a Damian, and before I switched to playing bass full time, I used it more than my mim p bass to record. I'm guessing they are more geared toward guitar players, more comfortable to play when you're use to the feel of the smaller more inferior instrument. I'm playing mine right now, just because you made it look fun. But I keep meaning to sell it, now my hands are more comfortable with my 4003 and jazz basses. I'm much happier with the mim p bass as well. Thank you so much for sharing ang al the work work you do. Cheers lobster.
Thanks Tommy! You're welcome :D. They're not a pain, just more time consuming. I still love making them (and there's plenty more long ones on the horizon). You can't pigeonhole Schecter at this point in time because they're making SO MUCH STUFF. I have more Schecter content coming that will show you some of the other stuff they make. They just launched their P-5 which is a 35" scale 5 string passive P bass (just a P pickup) w/ 19mm spacing! Can someone say Lakland 55-64 LOG comparison!? They're really expanding their range to get away from the metal/bass for a guitarist image that they've gotten.
LowEndLobster glad to here you say that, last night when I was playing mine, I was thinking they have come a long way since making the one I have and I’ve been seeing cooler ones over the past year or more and every time I see a different one it’s like “damn it looks sweet, but it’s going to play like mine” and I haven’t really given them a second thought, but I think it’s time to start playing them and go from there. You’re only like the second person I’ve heard saying positive stuff about them, that I would trust they’re opinion. So, bring em on. And I’ll be sure you give them more of an open mind. Cheers!! WOW!!! Is that a 27 and a half minute 🦞 video just came up???? Holy shit. I got to go!!! Already 313 views...damn we are loving some 🦞
I saw one of these at GC a while ago, and it sounded great, the look of the pickups made me think of dimarzio guitar pickups or the Seymour Duncan invader
@@liamjenkins82 I'm in love wit it as of now, especially for low tunings. However if you do prefer slimmer necks, the ESP may be for you because the neck on this guy is fairly thick
@@Misfirem thanks mate. The neck's not a deal breaker, it's been about 6 years since I played the esp, and that was a 4 string. I ended up with a Yamaha bb735a, and I think it's a horrible bass. I've been given a tax return this year and thought I'm going to treat myself. I play in a metal band, standard b tuning. So either 5 or the 4 ex would be peachy I reckon
It looks like my Damian, except mine’s a 4 string and I have all the “WAY MORE METAL” bats all over the fretboard. Btw...Got enough fecken tone options?? It’s like a freaking rack mounted effects processor...”hang on guys I’m dialing in my bass...” Fun stuff lobster. You are awesome. Cheers
Hey Lobster, I actually ended up going with the P5 at the last second, its coming Monday! and Have you ever considered checking out the Schector Banshee? I never realized they were short scales
@@LowEndLobster Cool! I haven't bought a Schecter since last night. Damien B2 FR Just something about a flying V with EMGs, a Floyd Rose trem, and flying 🦇inlays...had to have it! Don't worry, still a bassist at heart😎👍
I have a schecter stealth 4, and it plays and looks wonderful, but i find the bottom horn digs into my thigh (that's probably because I'm a bigger dude tho).
I just played a schecter for the first time, similar config to this one, 2 humbuckers, passive. The sound…. There’s no other way to say this so I’ll just say it: Schecters have BAWLS. Honestly, huge booming sound out of this one, akin to an upright bass.
Thanks Igor :). I wish I could, this is as metal as I get.... but I do know some others who could guest star. Going to have to wait until things are safer.
Yeah, the CV4 has the J buckets with the coil tap switches also. It is more "traditional " looking though. Would love to get my hands on my to try out. Oh, I think the CV4 has wide string spacing also....I think....maybe.....could be wrong though. 🤷♂️
I would say I'd have to put this against my TL5 (first gen, super ferrites not VFL)...but it's like a completely different thing. Looking over this unit - yeah, that's a $1200 bass, new, in today's markets what I saw is pretty competitive at that price point. Set neck is interesting...if peavey had made a 5 string T-40 holy crap I'd be all over it. I'm still going to put a T-40 in my tone bank/collection some day, but they average like $750+ for a decent one and you might get a case. I landed both my TL-5 and my DC-5 fretless for less than that. I am fascinated by the set neck though. I wonder how it feels on a bass and how the vibrations feel coursing through it compared to bolt/through. My TL-5, when I pluck that thing unplugged it still barks across the room...and it feels as resonant as a cat purring against me...I don't even want to plug them in lol they are so nice without amplification, why ruin it?
Oooh, TL5! I love me some old Peaveys (pour one out for Peavey, RIP :( ). I really like the set neck construction of this, a very Gibson move here. Great comment as always my friend!
Man, that was the first thing I noticed when I got this. It is the one I play unplugged after yhe kid goes to sleep because it just resonates so well. Cheers!
@@TheBeardofDOOM People will say woods are somewhat irrelevant, but you're getting some timbre out of the ash along with a nice moment arm (35" worth, lol) attached at the heel and not through, so the distribution of wave regeneration through the husk due to the discontinuity of transmission medium being different - I could literally FEEL that bass against me because I know what 35" scale feels like, I know what ash feels like, and I know what high mass parts feel like, and that's why the set neck was fascinating me because it is definitely going to FEEL different while playing, and it's something I feel goes FAR behind just the shape of the heel and how that affects basic ROM and mechanical playability. I won't know what it feels like until I do grab one, but intuition is learned and of the many ways I imagine this might feel playing...we'll have to see how my Heartfield DC5 hefts in my arms before thinking about how "it's not you baby, she's just different" might go about becoming ACTUALLY in my hands lol
@@LowEndLobster You really should! I just barely got ahold of one and I think it's probably one of the best bang-for-your-buck basses out there. The tonal versatility you can get out of one is just insane
Very cool to see Schecter thinking "Outside the box". A different look and sound. And it looks and sounds great. A luthier told me "You know Al, bass players seem to be much more OPEN to new idea's". "All guitar players seem to want is Stat's and Tele's". INNOVATION. Isn't that what it's about?
Sire M5/7 seems to be similar to this bass in terms of pickup selectors; how much different are Schecter Apocalypse and Sire M5/7 and which one do you prefer between them, if not considering price difference?
Great question! The Shecter has much tighter string spacing at 16.5 vs the 19mm (I think it's 19?) on the Sire M series. They have the same type of pickup switching, but the Sire has the added preamp. Whether or not that's a plus for your is personal preference. At the end of the day, this is an extremely flexible passive bass that can get some really usable tones - but the string spacing is on the tighter side (for those who want wider spacing)
@@LowEndLobster It would be great to see that. I have one, but I'm kinda divided about it - the neck is great, but its rather small body is quite light so it's bit neck heavy, and pickups are maybe too modern & cold sounding for my taste...in house pickups but a lot on the EMG side I'd say
i have a schecter omen elite bass 5 with the same switches split, parallel and series. which one is the switches? the middle is split, down is parallel and up is the series?
5+ strings usually scare me because the fretboard looks like a bookshelf to me. That bass, however, with it's close spacing, has nice proportions. On another note, I don't know what series/parallel mean w.r.t. pickups.
@@LowEndLobster that was very helpful, thanks. I understood the electronics, but I didn't know what it would do to the sound. That article had a really good explanation. Based on my own tastes, I think I'd prefer series for the beefier sound.
16.5mm almost unplayable? Check out Joey DeMaio, he uses a neck thinner than a guitar neck and 8 or 9mm string spacing xD. Thanks for doing a demo of this one, there isn't enough info about it online. It's a metal version of the Fender Roscoe Beck.
WHAT!!!! That’s what I get for commenting while I watch and before you get to the end..... Did you say that tone database, is passive???? WOW!!!! Also.... Did you just ask for a fecken “TONE KNOB!!!!!!” 2 hours of fiddling with the configurations, with a “I’m not going through ALL THE CONFIGURATIONS” in there. You’re like “.....hey guys, before you finish building the “Death Star” of basses....you think you can throw in a tone knob....yeh thanks” Sorry, I just thought that was fecken funny. You made my day buddy. Cheers
Lobster I know you said these pups were awesome. Do they have a good amount of low end considering they are passive? I played a schecter that had similar pups. Wasn’t impressed. But it was a cheaper model. Called the omen elite.
Heyo! The Omen Elite pickups are not the same pickups as these, though they may look and function similar. The bass here has USA 'custom shop' J buckers, where the Omen Elite has the Diamond series J buckers that are made overseas. The pickups in the apocalypse were definitely powerful and had some strong low-mids
@@LowEndLobster I do own a schecter but I would not consider my self a fanboy. I have been eyeing the apocalypse for a while. But what I really like is that Spector sound. Love your eurobolt videos. What is a cheaper brand that kinda has that Spector vibe? And thank u for replying to my past comment.
@@MrPx93 Awesome! That's a great question. I know Spector does make a 'budget' line of basses, however I have not tested any of them yet. I hope to do so soon!
I am an e guitar player and wanting to get into bass (to help out a local group) would this be a great bass to have first. Should I get a different one? I like Ibanez but I don’t know if their bass lineup is good or not (same with shector)
It's not a pigeonhole - all you have to do is look who a company signs, these days. These days everyone but the big few top level companies are pretty open with their intent and their markets. For instance - People are starting to ask for Solar basses but I don't think Ola has a sig bass pickup lined up yet - but that would be some smart thinking ahead to work with maybe even a few bass players and expand the Solar Guitars pickup offerings - but make no mistake, those instruments are built for METAL, they are designed to chug. /digression
@@LowEndLobster They look like the pickups on Jason Becker's blue Carvin guitar. I've seen the twin pole pieces on a few other ones. it's just visually distinctive and a physical part of the pickup so I would expect that you can get full range frequencies without field distance rolloff from all strings with split poles centered beneath the strings, at the least. I've only really noticed similar recently in basses with configurations like the new Ibby basses, where the slanted pickup ends up with a diagonally positioned split pole on either side of the string, again, like this Schecter and a bunch of the Carvin guitar humbuckers.
Interesting bass with a lot of good sounds. Kudos to Schector for pulling it off with a passive bass!
Thanks Matthew! Yeah really surprised how many tones this thing packed. Big differences in output and sound with all 3 pickup settings for each pickup.
BTW, my main bass for about four years was a Riot 5 that I nodded with EMG 40DC pickups.
Nice!
It had a lot of similarities to the Apocalypse in terms of build quality and style but very different finally. The 40DC pickups were a huge improvement
I only started playing bass a little over a year ago, at 49 yrs old. I started with a Squier Affinity jazz, which mine turned out to be a great bass. Since then I have a acquired a Squier VM 70's Jazz and a mint Peavey Forum pj. Went to a GC 2 weeks ago to look for a higher quality bass. Really thought I would walk out with a Fender or Sterling, something "traditional" . Then I played a Schecter Stiletto Studio 4 in trans purple that they had. Dude, I fell in love and that is what I brought home. Never thought that would be "the bass". Really impressed with Schecter.
Thanks for sharing, Brian! Congrats on your new bass! Yeah man, Schecter as a brand is often pigeonholed into the 'metal' genre, when they make a wide range of basses and they're very flexible! Enjoy it :)
Beautiful bass. Thanks for the review.
Thank you!
Killer sounding bass and a great review. I am really interested in the Schecter model with the new Fishman pickups
Thanks man. ME TOO! I think they have the same kinda spacing as this, which bums me out. I want to try out the 4... but I also want to know how the B is... choices choices.
@@LowEndLobster yep. The SLS, Evil Twin, Apocalypse and I believe Hellraiser are all a near identical platform sans wood choice and electronics
@@TheBeardofDOOM I too am curious about the Fishman Fluence pickups. Schecter and Cort (the A4) are the only companies I know of producing basses with them.
The new Toxic Venom, green paint job, is killer, too. I want one!!
I've tried one of these two years ago and I really love the tone. A first coming from Schecter for me!!
Nice! :D
I like this one a lot, the jury's out on the pickups but it's definitely what I consider a ready to gig bass.
And the slightly tighter string spacing you we're all about is definitely an acquired taste, but one that a lot of us have come to prefer especially in a longer than average scale length 5/6 string.
John Myung from Dream Theater is a perfect example.
He prefers such tight spacing, his amazing and unique, all finger style on his custom Bongo 6 speaks for itself it's works for some really well.
Thanks Seth! Great comment.
Just ordered this bass after trying a flawed one at a pawn shop. I think it needs to be stated that it has a phenomenal B string. This is the first bass outside of Dingwall that I've tried that the B string doesn't sound like a distant cousin to the other strings or flat at all. I was debating between the aesthetics of a 35" scale jazz style bass from Jericho or Schecter but the tone options on here are crazy. Thanks for the in depth review
I just snagged a 4 string EX version of this bass, and I’m looking forward to fiddling with it. Just wanted to post a thank you! Thanks for your hard work and for creating these resources fellow bassists can utilize for years to come.
What do you think of it mate
@@liamjenkins82 It is a great bass. The electronics setup is really something special. It excels at mimicking other basses native tones, but it does so with authority. If I could, I would retrofit these electronics in all of my Basses. Factor in the nice light weight and the extremely thin neck profile, I can’t complain about anything.
@@jonsidell3338 cheers for the reply. That sounds awesome. Just sold my house and I'm thinking of buying an up market bass. My first.
I had a riot once but the neck meant I had to tune and set it up every time I picked it up. Hope this wouldn't be the same. Sounds like an awesome bass
@@liamjenkins82This one has a 5 piece neck with carbon fiber reinforcement rods, so hopefully the neck won’t be an issue. Good luck with the bass and new residence.
@@jonsidell3338 cheers mate. Thanks for the info on the bass
Thank you for a great demo - can't tell you how many demos I see for 5 string basses where the player only plays 4 strings. I just ordered one of these from GC in Oklahoma City, used. You can't order a new one from GC currently. Can't wait for it to arrive. Thanks for the demo.
Thanks Paul!
That's a bass that has a lot of character and personality! Thanks for the demo, great job! Sounded great!
I'm a Schecter and Ibanez fanboi. Such high quality all around for prices that are actually affordable to normies like myself. Great demo of this top shelf bass geetar
Thanks TJ! I am as well. They offer some really innovative designs that can cover a wide array of genres and tones, and they kind of make something for everyone. I appreciate their stuff a lot more than places that make vanilla P and J copies only.
@@LowEndLobster im sure you have probably already reviewed one at some point, but if you havent, the GnL L2500 Tribute series is an absolute beast. The electronics are crazy in the best possible way. Kind of reminds me of a Sting Ray on roids. I reluctantly traded my Schecter J5 for one, and after have a few weeks im so glad i pulled the trigger. I think it would be right up your alley.
They make a four string with 35" scale (the EX) and if it has 19mm spacing (I might even be good with a little narrower) I might have found what I'm looking for.
Nice!
I've been wondering how good these Basses were thanks for the review
No problem, Mike! Thanks for watching!
I bought a CV-4 and it impressed me so much that I sold my Warmoth Deluxe 5 parts bass and replaced it with a CV-5. I found that I like narrower spacing as the amount of strings goes up. Also, your reviews are awesome and your grooves are so on point!
Also, the CV-4 and CV-5 have the same (or very similar) pickups and electronics as the Apocalypse. I liked the more "vintage" look of the CV series over the Apocalypse. Also, my favorite config is single coil neck with series bridge. It sounds a bit like a Lakland 94 (or 02 for the Skylines) to my ears.
Thanks Matthew! I like the look of those CV series basses. Was curious about the pickups as they relate to this. I appreciate the compliments my friend :)
@@LowEndLobster I think I watch you because you play what I like, lol! Also, your demeanor and overall cadence keeps me interested. Those CV schecters play early close to the Fender Roscoe Beck (the best basses Fender ever made IMO) for about 500-700 bucks. I put those instruments up there against my G&L L2000 for tonal versatility.
@@LowEndLobster It would be great if you found the time to do a review for Schecter CV-4
I'm a long time fan of schecter. My first real modern bass was an Omen extreme from '06 for about $500. I still have it to this day and it still performs nearly on par with my musicman that costs over 3x the price. Sure, it's a little simple, but the quality on every tiny piece of it is completely up to snuff. They're masters of putting the absolute minimum of what you need to have an amazing sounding instrument without sacrificing anything that makes it useful.
Schecter is really great for how little I see them around. They are slowly creeping their way into the hands of bigger artists, but I hardly hear people talk about them, and most dislike them because of their “metal” look and target audience.
I remember the first time I played one at a guitar center, it blew every other bass I tried out of the water when it came to comfort, and the sound was really good as well. Now I own a Stiletto Custom 4, and my only major issue is that I should of gotten a 5 string instead. It kicks major ass, and everything from slap to shredding feels and sounds awesome.
Thank you for sharing! Great comment :)
Fully passive basses with two humbuckers are quite a rare sight these days.
Very true! In fact, I was just looking around the bass hoard and I don't have any others (this one isn't even mine).
If it’s fully passive, what’s the compartment on the back for?
@@taylorpearcy319 How else would they get the potentiometers and switches installed?
Fair enough
Not sure why but schecter basses always seems to suprize me. They are great! Thanks lobster.
Thanks Ross :)
I don't think I've ever heard a bass that was more metal than that thing! 🤘
haha thanks Michael!
I really like the tones in this thing!
Thanks Snake! Me too, really liked this bass
Oh boy Im excited!
Thanks :D
First off thank you for the long video, I know they're a pain, but believe, much appreciated. Now...Schecter...I think they make some neat basses, but I usually pass when I'm ready to buy a new bass, don't know exactly why. I own a Damian, and before I switched to playing bass full time, I used it more than my mim p bass to record. I'm guessing they are more geared toward guitar players, more comfortable to play when you're use to the feel of the smaller more inferior instrument. I'm playing mine right now, just because you made it look fun. But I keep meaning to sell it, now my hands are more comfortable with my 4003 and jazz basses. I'm much happier with the mim p bass as well. Thank you so much for sharing ang al the work work you do. Cheers lobster.
Thanks Tommy! You're welcome :D. They're not a pain, just more time consuming. I still love making them (and there's plenty more long ones on the horizon). You can't pigeonhole Schecter at this point in time because they're making SO MUCH STUFF. I have more Schecter content coming that will show you some of the other stuff they make. They just launched their P-5 which is a 35" scale 5 string passive P bass (just a P pickup) w/ 19mm spacing! Can someone say Lakland 55-64 LOG comparison!? They're really expanding their range to get away from the metal/bass for a guitarist image that they've gotten.
LowEndLobster glad to here you say that, last night when I was playing mine, I was thinking they have come a long way since making the one I have and I’ve been seeing cooler ones over the past year or more and every time I see a different one it’s like “damn it looks sweet, but it’s going to play like mine” and I haven’t really given them a second thought, but I think it’s time to start playing them and go from there. You’re only like the second person I’ve heard saying positive stuff about them, that I would trust they’re opinion. So, bring em on. And I’ll be sure you give them more of an open mind. Cheers!!
WOW!!! Is that a 27 and a half minute 🦞 video just came up???? Holy shit. I got to go!!!
Already 313 views...damn we are loving some 🦞
Humm I guess its time that you try a sandberg bass and tell us all about it ✌️ great video, keep it up!
Thanks Roy! I do want to get my hands on a Sandberg, they are very very nice.
I saw one of these at GC a while ago, and it sounded great, the look of the pickups made me think of dimarzio guitar pickups or the Seymour Duncan invader
I wanna see you a review a P5!!
I want to see me review a P5 too! ;P
Just bought this the other day! Its so good
Awesome! Glad you're enjoying it.
Worth the money mate. I'm torn between this or a esp of similar quality. I know the esps have a slim neck that I like. What do you think so far
@@liamjenkins82 I'm in love wit it as of now, especially for low tunings. However if you do prefer slimmer necks, the ESP may be for you because the neck on this guy is fairly thick
@@Misfirem thanks mate. The neck's not a deal breaker, it's been about 6 years since I played the esp, and that was a 4 string. I ended up with a Yamaha bb735a, and I think it's a horrible bass.
I've been given a tax return this year and thought I'm going to treat myself. I play in a metal band, standard b tuning. So either 5 or the 4 ex would be peachy I reckon
Love schecter basses I have a riot session and model t session with emgs Grover tuners high mass bridge on both amazing quality for 800 bucks
I want to check out myself someday the Model-T Session-5 model. Looks awesome
Thanks! The Model-T is on my list as well :).
Killin me Lobster.
I have 2 Schecters that I love so this is.... wooo
Oh boy... don't watch next week ;P
@@LowEndLobster LOL is it the hollowbody I saw on IG?
It looks like my Damian, except mine’s a 4 string and I have all the “WAY MORE METAL” bats all over the fretboard. Btw...Got enough fecken tone options??
It’s like a freaking rack mounted effects processor...”hang on guys I’m dialing in my bass...”
Fun stuff lobster. You are awesome. Cheers
Thanks Tommy! Man it's getting hard to keep up with all these comments but I am determined!
Hey Lobster, I actually ended up going with the P5 at the last second, its coming Monday! and Have you ever considered checking out the Schector Banshee? I never realized they were short scales
Get it 🦞 I love Schecters and might have to get a 3rd one for a 5 ... LOL
More Schecter content in the upcoming week. Prepare to set sail (hint hint) ;P
@@LowEndLobster Cool! I haven't bought a Schecter since last night. Damien B2 FR Just something about a flying V with EMGs, a Floyd Rose trem, and flying 🦇inlays...had to have it! Don't worry, still a bassist at heart😎👍
I have a schecter stealth 4, and it plays and looks wonderful, but i find the bottom horn digs into my thigh (that's probably because I'm a bigger dude tho).
I've been eyeing those! Is yours the PJ? How much do they weigh?
@@LowEndLobster it's an active b
P and "music man" style pickup. It's pretty light, lighter then my squier jaguar ss.
@@LowEndLobster id love tl see what you'd think of that bass
I just played a schecter for the first time, similar config to this one, 2 humbuckers, passive.
The sound…. There’s no other way to say this so I’ll just say it:
Schecters have BAWLS.
Honestly, huge booming sound out of this one, akin to an upright bass.
great job, man!!! so, can you make a metal demo of this bass? that will be awesome!!!
Thanks Igor :). I wish I could, this is as metal as I get.... but I do know some others who could guest star. Going to have to wait until things are safer.
Hopefully can see you review the CV4 on next..
Definitely going to be more schecter content, I'll try and get one of the CVs on my next gear rotation :)
Yeah, the CV4 has the J buckets with the coil tap switches also. It is more "traditional " looking though. Would love to get my hands on my to try out. Oh, I think the CV4 has wide string spacing also....I think....maybe.....could be wrong though. 🤷♂️
I would say I'd have to put this against my TL5 (first gen, super ferrites not VFL)...but it's like a completely different thing.
Looking over this unit - yeah, that's a $1200 bass, new, in today's markets what I saw is pretty competitive at that price point. Set neck is interesting...if peavey had made a 5 string T-40 holy crap I'd be all over it. I'm still going to put a T-40 in my tone bank/collection some day, but they average like $750+ for a decent one and you might get a case. I landed both my TL-5 and my DC-5 fretless for less than that.
I am fascinated by the set neck though. I wonder how it feels on a bass and how the vibrations feel coursing through it compared to bolt/through. My TL-5, when I pluck that thing unplugged it still barks across the room...and it feels as resonant as a cat purring against me...I don't even want to plug them in lol they are so nice without amplification, why ruin it?
Oooh, TL5! I love me some old Peaveys (pour one out for Peavey, RIP :( ). I really like the set neck construction of this, a very Gibson move here. Great comment as always my friend!
Man, that was the first thing I noticed when I got this. It is the one I play unplugged after yhe kid goes to sleep because it just resonates so well.
Cheers!
@@TheBeardofDOOM People will say woods are somewhat irrelevant, but you're getting some timbre out of the ash along with a nice moment arm (35" worth, lol) attached at the heel and not through, so the distribution of wave regeneration through the husk due to the discontinuity of transmission medium being different - I could literally FEEL that bass against me because I know what 35" scale feels like, I know what ash feels like, and I know what high mass parts feel like, and that's why the set neck was fascinating me because it is definitely going to FEEL different while playing, and it's something I feel goes FAR behind just the shape of the heel and how that affects basic ROM and mechanical playability. I won't know what it feels like until I do grab one, but intuition is learned and of the many ways I imagine this might feel playing...we'll have to see how my Heartfield DC5 hefts in my arms before thinking about how "it's not you baby, she's just different" might go about becoming ACTUALLY in my hands lol
@@russellzauner it's not you... It's me!
Really nice, so versatile
Thanks Ruben!
While i think they make great instruments, i've never personally connected with a schecter enough to get one. Great review!
Thank you!
My dream bass! Tho I'd prefer the C4 EX tuned to BEAD. Still, it's a awesome bass guitar!👌💯
Thanks John!
I wish I could get a hold of the ex in Australia. I think it be my perfect bass
It's like Schecter came out with their own take on a G&L L2000
True! Speaking of, I still need to get my claws on a G&L..
@@LowEndLobster You really should! I just barely got ahold of one and I think it's probably one of the best bang-for-your-buck basses out there. The tonal versatility you can get out of one is just insane
Very cool to see Schecter thinking "Outside the box". A different look and sound. And it looks and sounds great. A luthier told me "You know Al, bass players seem to be much more OPEN to new idea's". "All guitar players seem to want is Stat's and Tele's". INNOVATION. Isn't that what it's about?
Sire M5/7 seems to be similar to this bass in terms of pickup selectors; how much different are Schecter Apocalypse and Sire M5/7 and which one do you prefer between them, if not considering price difference?
Great question! The Shecter has much tighter string spacing at 16.5 vs the 19mm (I think it's 19?) on the Sire M series. They have the same type of pickup switching, but the Sire has the added preamp. Whether or not that's a plus for your is personal preference. At the end of the day, this is an extremely flexible passive bass that can get some really usable tones - but the string spacing is on the tighter side (for those who want wider spacing)
Is it possible for you to put your hands on a Schecter Stiletto Stealth and review it? 5 strings if possible
Hey Tom! I've been eyeing that model for quite some time. I will try and snag one at some point! :)
@@LowEndLobster It would be great to see that. I have one, but I'm kinda divided about it - the neck is great, but its rather small body is quite light so it's bit neck heavy, and pickups are maybe too modern & cold sounding for my taste...in house pickups but a lot on the EMG side I'd say
@@LowEndLobster ... and please check some of my latest clips to see it in action
i have a schecter omen elite bass 5 with the same switches split, parallel and series. which one is the switches? the middle is split, down is parallel and up is the series?
Yup I’m ready for the apocalypse
Apocalypse NOW!
Yo Lobster! Any chance you could review the Sls elite with fishman fluence pickups? Cheers 👍🏻
Bridge pickup tone at 50% in series = 👌🏻 Great sound demo ⚔️🔥⚔️
Thanks Steve
5+ strings usually scare me because the fretboard looks like a bookshelf to me. That bass, however, with it's close spacing, has nice proportions. On another note, I don't know what series/parallel mean w.r.t. pickups.
Thanks John! Here's an article I found that explains it well-
www.notreble.com/buzz/2019/01/16/series-vs-parallel-wired-pickups/
@@LowEndLobster that was very helpful, thanks. I understood the electronics, but I didn't know what it would do to the sound. That article had a really good explanation. Based on my own tastes, I think I'd prefer series for the beefier sound.
@@jdmarino Yep, series brings the BEEF.
16.5mm almost unplayable? Check out Joey DeMaio, he uses a neck thinner than a guitar neck and 8 or 9mm string spacing xD. Thanks for doing a demo of this one, there isn't enough info about it online. It's a metal version of the Fender Roscoe Beck.
Ahaha, I have an Ibanez SRC6 baritone that's been.... a challenge ahahaha. Thanks for watching and the great comment :).
WHAT!!!! That’s what I get for commenting while I watch and before you get to the end.....
Did you say that tone database, is passive???? WOW!!!!
Also....
Did you just ask for a fecken “TONE KNOB!!!!!!”
2 hours of fiddling with the configurations, with a “I’m not going through ALL THE CONFIGURATIONS” in there. You’re like “.....hey guys, before you finish building the “Death Star” of basses....you think you can throw in a tone knob....yeh thanks”
Sorry, I just thought that was fecken funny. You made my day buddy. Cheers
LOL Thanks Tommy!
Is this C-5 close to the Omen Elite 5 String ?
Is that Mexican P Bass one of your favorites?
Nah, it's not one of my favorites but I don't hate it. I think it's a good 'benchmark' bass though.
Lobster I know you said these pups were awesome. Do they have a good amount of low end considering they are passive? I played a schecter that had similar pups. Wasn’t impressed. But it was a cheaper model. Called the omen elite.
Heyo! The Omen Elite pickups are not the same pickups as these, though they may look and function similar. The bass here has USA 'custom shop' J buckers, where the Omen Elite has the Diamond series J buckers that are made overseas. The pickups in the apocalypse were definitely powerful and had some strong low-mids
@@LowEndLobster I do own a schecter but I would not consider my self a fanboy. I have been eyeing the apocalypse for a while. But what I really like is that Spector sound. Love your eurobolt videos. What is a cheaper brand that kinda has that Spector vibe? And thank u for replying to my past comment.
@@MrPx93 Awesome! That's a great question. I know Spector does make a 'budget' line of basses, however I have not tested any of them yet. I hope to do so soon!
Good review. Lobster, do you have a Facebook group? Or on any?
I do indeed have a facebook group! Link is in the description :) Thank you! :D
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I am an e guitar player and wanting to get into bass (to help out a local group) would this be a great bass to have first. Should I get a different one? I like Ibanez but I don’t know if their bass lineup is good or not (same with shector)
Both make awesome basses.
This one is a set neck 😉
Aw shit ahahaha
Metal 🤘🏼
🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
Just pick one of these up for £250.00 ! It’s awesome
I just want to say this is a good review and all but I think this video doesn't capture how good the rock/metal tone of this bass is.
Agreed that's what I'm buying this bass for
I don’t care what price point your going for schecter just has it
Wanna be friends?
You are much better looking than the other bot
What a hefty bottom on that bass. Schecter seems to have been pigeon holed as a Metal bass.
Yep, but they're getting out of it! I have a few more schecters I'll be looking at in the very very near future :).
It's not a pigeonhole - all you have to do is look who a company signs, these days. These days everyone but the big few top level companies are pretty open with their intent and their markets.
For instance -
People are starting to ask for Solar basses but I don't think Ola has a sig bass pickup lined up yet - but that would be some smart thinking ahead to work with maybe even a few bass players and expand the Solar Guitars pickup offerings - but make no mistake, those instruments are built for METAL, they are designed to chug. /digression
Those pickups look like older carvins lol
What models? Not really familiar with the older Carvin stuff
@@LowEndLobster They look like the pickups on Jason Becker's blue Carvin guitar. I've seen the twin pole pieces on a few other ones. it's just visually distinctive and a physical part of the pickup so I would expect that you can get full range frequencies without field distance rolloff from all strings with split poles centered beneath the strings, at the least. I've only really noticed similar recently in basses with configurations like the new Ibby basses, where the slanted pickup ends up with a diagonally positioned split pole on either side of the string, again, like this Schecter and a bunch of the Carvin guitar humbuckers.
once i heard 16.5 i was out
Yeah that tight spacing isn't for me either, but the overall bass is really well done.
Don't do 5 strings!
:O