Carburetor Adjusting: Idle Drop Procedure

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  • Опубліковано 11 січ 2019
  • In this video I wanted to go over one super important carburetor adjusting technique we call the Idle Drop procedure. This type of adjustment is one I would consider to be the final touch or "tune" you need to put on the carb to REALLY dial it in.
    This type of adjustment really works wonders for those of you who throw on common bolt on upgrades like exhaust, hi-flow air filters and more. Many people think that re-jetting is always required when you change those type of parts out but you would be surprised at how well this works!
    Carburetor tuning is quickly becoming a lost art but I hope this helps to shed some light on the topic and helps you dial in your motorcycles carb!
    Enjoy!
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  • @marksullivan9179
    @marksullivan9179 4 роки тому +20

    I have no idea who would thumbs down this video, all of Cody‘s videos how been very Informative and he’s a great mechanic what can you say good job Cody keep up the good work

    • @Synthstain
      @Synthstain 3 роки тому +3

      Their idle adjustment screw was probably at 4 turns out and it fell out. Then they felt personally attacked by Cody

    • @patgraeme775
      @patgraeme775 11 місяців тому +1

      Or they were looking for a simple answer to a simple question, not 19:00 minutes of talking for a 90 second explanation?

  • @Mcvanderospickersen
    @Mcvanderospickersen 5 років тому +2

    I just dropped you $50...because YOU ROCK! Your videos are excellent and they save me a pile of money. I'd rather give it to you than some shop I don't trust. Go Honda!

  • @sharonsharon2604
    @sharonsharon2604 5 років тому +4

    One if the few best instructors on UA-cam in his field!

  • @waynegacyii9010
    @waynegacyii9010 5 років тому +6

    Fighting idle drop myself after changing pilot jets, great explanation.

  • @saatanakettu7514
    @saatanakettu7514 5 років тому +1

    Damn dude i bought my first Honda motorcycle like a week ago and you have been really big help already. Thanks!

  • @joewee
    @joewee 4 роки тому +51

    7:20 is where the procedure actually starts if you want to skip the informational intro

    • @JeremyBorumComposer
      @JeremyBorumComposer 4 роки тому +1

      Yes! Skip the first 7:20 for sure. That's where the video actually starts. Helpful though, thank you.

  • @jacobgriffin2636
    @jacobgriffin2636 Рік тому

    This video is the sole reason my honda shadow is now tuned correctly after a stage 3 rejet and intake upgrade. Thank you.

  • @dylan51racing
    @dylan51racing 3 роки тому +33

    10 minutes in he actually explains what you’re looking for

  • @marckublicki3153
    @marckublicki3153 5 років тому +1

    Thank you, I learned a lot from this video. As a hobbyist, I enjoy learning as much as possible. Again, thank you for a very instructional video.

  • @flatbmw4784
    @flatbmw4784 2 роки тому

    This video helped me tune my Grom with a 212cc big bore race engine. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. VB represent!

  • @normanbonnette295
    @normanbonnette295 2 роки тому

    In January of 2022 I purchased a 2007 Honda Reflex and since that time I have been attempting to get it to run a bit better. I've installed a B face off a Big Ruckus and Dr. Pulley sliders. These helped the Flex drop the dreaded lag and gave it much better performance, however I couldn't get the lag from my throttle. I would twist the thing and it would just stay, as I let her back it would pick up and go. I bought a additional tack tried every suggestion in the service manual, read every bit of information I could find on the web to no avail. Today I found this sight by accident watched it three times, went out to the garage and gave it a try. I installed a new Denso plug, let her warm up, put this procedure into practice buttoned up the doors and took her out on a 60 mile test run. Finally, it's perfect, no crap, perfect. It will now run 82 MPH cruise all day at 70, not hesitate to climb a hill, and smoothly clime from a dead stop to 50 without skipping a beat. My deepest appreciation, I have subscribed and will continue to look for those elusive answers Cody.

  • @doyle873
    @doyle873 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for posting the link for the straight slot adjuster tool, Cody!

  • @BenjaminCrooks
    @BenjaminCrooks 4 роки тому

    I'm an aircraft mechanic and your advice helped to tune a 1994 Kawasaki ZX11 with 4 carburetors, thanks again. Very valuable information!!!

    • @lewistibbitts3894
      @lewistibbitts3894 Рік тому

      Does this process work the same as a single carburetor? I mean do you do one at a time or turn each one the same each time?

  • @ryanred5724
    @ryanred5724 3 місяці тому

    Wait...I just realized that is the procedure explained in my Honda's shop manual, but it is explained much more vaguely than in this video so thank you for clarifying things out

  • @user-ot1dv6ri4f
    @user-ot1dv6ri4f 11 місяців тому +1

    You do all the good things

  • @garyconstant4234
    @garyconstant4234 4 роки тому +7

    You’ve saved the day again Cody 👍 I’ve got a virago 535 that needs the fuel/air mixture adjusting where someone before me has basically played with them and now the back cylinder is too rich as it’s blowing a bit of black smoke out from letting too much fuel in. Do you do a video of a twin cylinder bike. I watched your one doing the four cylinder tune up as I done my zephyr after watching it. Keep up these awesome videos fellas as they are absolutely awesome. Greetings from England

  • @reubentan4737
    @reubentan4737 Рік тому

    Thanks so much! Best explanation on procedural steps. My Honda CG 125 running too lean( blueing of pipes). Now I know how to tune the old school carb!

  • @akbarhussain1767
    @akbarhussain1767 4 роки тому +2

    Hi there Cody,thank you again for an Excellent tuition about carburetor tuning,
    (Idle Drop Procedure) Excellently Explained,
    thank you friend 😊😊😊

  • @Oldtimerider
    @Oldtimerider 4 роки тому

    You have a great way of explaining things! Thanks much.

  • @WheelsofSteal
    @WheelsofSteal 5 років тому +9

    Cody!! Great video but what did you do with the idle screw now. Turn it back up afterwards? Thanks.

  • @madcat4563
    @madcat4563 2 роки тому

    Was abit difficult to understand for a newbie, byt the practical example made it crysral clear.
    Thank yoy so much, your videos have been a huge help.

  • @laynetravis
    @laynetravis Рік тому

    Finally!i found a video to understand how to adjust my carb

  • @radekfedyk4588
    @radekfedyk4588 Рік тому

    Thanks for that. Will be doing my carbs tomorrow using this procedure. It will be fun as it’s a Magna VF500 with 4 carbs. Thanks again!

  • @adallen3
    @adallen3 5 років тому +2

    Happy New Year Cody! Man your tips and advice are always top notch. I love the technical explanation. Thank You my friend.

    • @TheMotorcycleMD
      @TheMotorcycleMD  5 років тому

      Thanks man! That is super encouraging to hear 🤗

  • @SoapyHB
    @SoapyHB 2 роки тому

    Excellent video. Thanks for that. You have a very good teaching technique. Much appreciated.

  • @roberttosa2560
    @roberttosa2560 4 роки тому

    Excellent video. Really helpful. Thanks Cody.

  • @jarrodfarley905
    @jarrodfarley905 Рік тому +1

    Thanks man well informed easy to understand

  • @How2Wrench
    @How2Wrench 5 років тому

    I'm only 8 min in and NICE WORK BUD!

  • @MotoMango
    @MotoMango 5 років тому

    Anything to avoid rejetting! xD Nice work mate.

  • @sydneybaumgartner9801
    @sydneybaumgartner9801 5 років тому

    Thanks ! going to try this on my KLR

  • @jessy6464
    @jessy6464 5 років тому

    Was also wondering how its done on a 4 carb like my v30 magna! I removed the baffles and would like to try this to see if i can get it at a sweet spot!

  • @joeblow3939
    @joeblow3939 5 років тому +1

    Cody, Would liked to have heard it return back to idle after you did the adjustment. 👍👍

  • @stealhty1
    @stealhty1 2 роки тому

    Hi, Honda CB400// bog down on acceleration ,left side spark plug was getting black, I did your adjusment and closed the idle screw 1/2 turn ,and the bike now runs like a charm

  • @mfc392
    @mfc392 3 роки тому +1

    Great video... thanks Cody.

  • @gester236
    @gester236 3 роки тому +1

    Hi Cody, can you perform the idle drop procedure on an inline 4?

  • @juanpalomoyomelocomo
    @juanpalomoyomelocomo 5 років тому +1

    Great content. Congrats

  • @BardoReyes
    @BardoReyes Рік тому

    Genius man!!! Thank you for the help

  • @shees221
    @shees221 11 місяців тому

    Dude your awesome. Explained it pretty well. 👍

  • @gam0t0
    @gam0t0 3 роки тому

    Thanks great vid, so did you bring the idle back up a bit after the procedure or leave it way down in the 500-600 range for normal riding

  • @baazigaj9125
    @baazigaj9125 5 років тому

    Good stuff Cody..cheers

  • @zrkn1
    @zrkn1 5 років тому

    Excellent info and explanation. Thank You

  • @jayrenner211
    @jayrenner211 3 роки тому

    I am about to get a free 1986 Radian - sight unseen. I am sure I will be doing this procedure soon. Thanks for the video.

  • @CoolKillkennyCat
    @CoolKillkennyCat 5 років тому

    Hey mate, great content as usual. Just wondering what I should start looking at if I can set my bike up to idle fine and the after it gets warm the idle sits high either indefinitely or for a good 30 seconds before returning to normal?

  • @darrengann7777
    @darrengann7777 2 роки тому

    Dude thank you for the video. I think you and Giovanni Ribisi sound alot alike and I'm a big fan of his too

  • @MOTOPILOT6
    @MOTOPILOT6 Рік тому

    Having this issue after changing the throttle tube on my Africa Twin and had to loosen the adjuster at the carb to get the cables into the new tube. Throttle is 95% good but returns slow. And it sticks when I turn the bars at all. Hoping your fix does the trick.

  • @hotdogdog4740
    @hotdogdog4740 5 років тому +1

    First off I love your videos, you’re pretty unrivaled as far as raw knowledge and understanding of these bikes on UA-cam. I’m actually building a 1972 cb350, with the stock keihin carbs. I’m at the near end of the build but having difficulty with the carb tuning, any suggestions on jet sizes? The stock idle jet is #35, main is #68, secondary is #105. I just switched over to k&n pod filters btw and upgraded to a #35 idle, #75 main and 115 secondary. Haven’t tried starting her up yet as I’m in Michigan and it’s currently pretty cold out but I’ll give her a kick soon.

  • @sleezymechanic
    @sleezymechanic 4 роки тому

    Hey man! I cleaned the carbs on my vt1100 and it seems to run great already! But when fine tuning I hardly get an idle raise when I turn the fuel screws counterclockwise. Do you think I should put one size higher jets? Or maybe just the pilot jet? It seems to run really good at 60.

  • @iDSMB1
    @iDSMB1 2 роки тому

    nice and clean tutorial.thx

  • @gester236
    @gester236 4 роки тому +2

    Can we have an Idle procedure drop on inline 4?

  • @OFFICIALxGAMER
    @OFFICIALxGAMER 4 роки тому

    Good stuff man. Just got my 78 cb750 running and driving. Set timing. Still has old points after sitting for years.. I rebuilt the carbs. Running air pods and 128 main jets. It's kinda hard to start. And hesitates at low rpms mid range is great. I did not rebuild the accelerator pump. Kit did not come with it. Any help would be great. Thanks.

  • @leeclynes4712
    @leeclynes4712 Рік тому

    I have a zephry 550 b and I would like to say thanks for this as living in the highlands/Scotland the air going into my bike can be a pest as it’s different air pressure sometimes I have found so al give it a try cheers

  • @screamfingers
    @screamfingers 4 роки тому

    Ive got an honda mc22 beautiful 250cc inline 4 screamer from the 90s. I believe it has a fuel screw and its at 1.5 turns out. Is this acceptable? Thanks for your videos they are a big help.

  • @zacharyryan_art
    @zacharyryan_art 5 років тому

    Thanks for the videos man! First time doing any of this stuff and working with a Yamaha XJ500. Took it all apart cleaned the carbs, put some bigger mains, (cuz of pods), and finally got it started today for a bit, but needed to have the choke open, and think I flooded it cuz it wouldn't start after about the 4th time I shut off and started it. Also it was slowly getting back to idle like you said that was doing. Too lean? One last thing... Was wanting to subscribe to your website, but I know it's mostly for Honda stuff, is it worth it if I'm working with stuff other than hondas?

  • @DavoMelendez
    @DavoMelendez 3 роки тому

    good explanation

  • @drewdrew1000
    @drewdrew1000 Рік тому

    Very informative thanks. Do you have any experience with a Gunson colortune? It’s a clear spark plug, that you can view the colour of the combustion flame with and adjust accordingly

  • @tebarker92
    @tebarker92 3 роки тому

    Really enjoying your videos. As said below a video of this procedure on a V twin would be really helpful as it’s confusing to know on how to make the adjustments to one cylinder when there’s another cylinder beating in the background.

  • @cri8tor
    @cri8tor 5 років тому

    Know this tutorial goes over the basics and its well done, but please consider a follow up tutorial on syncing a set of duel carbs such as the ones on a Honda Shadow 750. Had to remove welch plugs to expose my needle screws. No bueno. Cheers

  • @lamontcleveland482
    @lamontcleveland482 5 років тому

    Can u do a video on a 86 Honda Shadow VT700C carburetors

  • @edwardmalfroid946
    @edwardmalfroid946 5 років тому

    Great job!

  • @dalt7666
    @dalt7666 4 роки тому

    So when you finished. Did you turn the idle screw back in, to its original idle speed?

  • @peterpoggi
    @peterpoggi 4 роки тому

    I see you have a VTX1300 in the background. I'm tuning my 2005 1300C after replacing a bad petcock. Does my A/F mix screw work the same way as the one you demonstrated? Meaning, turning it in reduces fuel, turning it out increases fuel?

  • @rashellyohn5128
    @rashellyohn5128 3 роки тому

    I just shot you a request for this very vid. oh another of your vids. Thank you for your brain power. She is my best friend and now she sings...

  • @petev.9357
    @petev.9357 Рік тому +1

    Hey Cody, hope you see this. I know video is old.
    Would LOVE to see this on your 750 Nighthawk. Pilot screw clearance HAS to be tightest on this bike with carbs in place.

  • @minxita
    @minxita 5 років тому +1

    Hi, great video. Actually educating :)
    Thank you.
    Could you explain about the 4 carbs, as it should be done all at the time the same no matter what?
    I do get a lot of backfire, and low and high rpms just dont work properly at all. Thank you

  • @cheesquilin962
    @cheesquilin962 4 роки тому

    Would synchronizing ur carbs take care of this? Is this procedure done before is after a sync? I got a 82 xj650, not a mechanic. Great informative videos, thx.

  • @taledarkside
    @taledarkside 5 років тому +1

    that is an important thing to remember is the changes don't happen right away
    love to see goldwing repair videos, like the 1500 in the back

  • @norbertogonzalez534
    @norbertogonzalez534 11 місяців тому

    perfect thanks

  • @foxyeee
    @foxyeee 3 роки тому

    I'm new to carbs and am working with dual carbs freshly cleaned. When working with dual carbs do you just do this procedure to both carbs one at a time? Or do I work them both at the same time?

  • @willethridge5202
    @willethridge5202 3 роки тому

    The BEST!!!!

  • @kurtteixeira
    @kurtteixeira Рік тому

    Sub’d . Great info

  • @Bh-dq3pd
    @Bh-dq3pd 5 років тому

    I was wondering if you could help me. My kz440 starts then dies immediately. I cleaned the carbs and still

  • @mdgardner70
    @mdgardner70 4 роки тому

    My 2004 250 Ninja runs great, but decelerating to a stop doesn’t want to maintain idle. Honestly can’t remember the last time I cleaned the carbs, but it hasn’t been driven much in the past several years. I did store it with shitty fuel that had separated but got the tank and carbs drained and good fuel back in. Think there is some varnish still in the carbs?

  • @dustinanderson7285
    @dustinanderson7285 5 років тому +1

    Much cool, much class, great videos.

  • @sidneycowdroy4668
    @sidneycowdroy4668 4 роки тому

    Hey Cody. As always amazing video. I am based in Aus and have a vtwin. Ive learnt and fixed so much with your help. Carbies are a lost art here and i really need some help with some small questions. Is there anyway i can message u direct just to get some help man?

  • @ouch2925
    @ouch2925 4 роки тому +3

    The get in the hole part destroyed me. I love this guy lmao

  • @brynbull6942
    @brynbull6942 4 роки тому +5

    After you found the sweet spot did u turn the idle screw bk up to normal idle

    • @jaystrappa
      @jaystrappa 3 роки тому

      I was thinking the same thing 😂 🤔

  • @tamusbaby
    @tamusbaby 2 роки тому

    fkn GREAT vid!!! Thank You !!!!!! Exactly what I needed !!!

  • @jake_break9185
    @jake_break9185 2 роки тому

    so Cody, what do i do if my sweet spot is only maybe half a turn out, and one carb idles up with mix screw all the way in. what do i need to replace or adjust?

  • @uziXwraith
    @uziXwraith 5 років тому

    you can use a strong centerpunch to knock that welsh plug out sometimes if you angle the center punch a bit... some cheap china aftermarket carbs have welsh plus so flimsy you can dig the soft metal welsh plug with a screwdriver or hook

  • @darktimefreak1678
    @darktimefreak1678 4 роки тому

    Is that the same on in line four ?! i have a bandit and the idle is like lower than normal .. it's dropping probably the fuel air is too rich ?! should i do same while the bike is running and warmed up ?!

  • @RSRevivals
    @RSRevivals 5 років тому

    What are your thoughts on a colortune?

  • @MoBLuBSiAb4LiFe
    @MoBLuBSiAb4LiFe 4 роки тому

    Can you do one for dual carb

  • @Isaa5500
    @Isaa5500 5 років тому

    Guys I hope you can help!! I have a 2001 Yamaha FZS 1000 and the start-up on the choke is really difficult it cuts out 3 to 4 times I have to Revit up really high in order for the idle to continue running otherwise it stalls four to five times. When I initially start with the choke the idling is 3000 and slowly decreases and then stalls after 30 seconds of running !! The Choke plunger works perfectly.
    Any idea why this is happening thanks

  • @MarKeMu125
    @MarKeMu125 3 роки тому

    Does anyone know if loctite blue is any good for these adjuster screws?

  • @lordofbasement
    @lordofbasement Рік тому

    I would love to see if you do the idle drop procedure on a GL1500. Because i have a GL1500 and struggle a little bit. Two carbs which are bad to get to. Mine runs perfekt after i cleaned the carbs (Idle circuit was clogged) but i setted the mixture screws to the position which honda recommends (i think 2 5/8). She reacts to throttle inputs perfect and gets to idle immediately but on coldstarts with choke she is sewing if i adjust the choke to about 1500rpm. What can i do against that behaviour?

  • @Halfcocked86
    @Halfcocked86 5 років тому

    Where is the screw on my 82 cb750? Please and thanks

  • @starfighter2952
    @starfighter2952 8 місяців тому

    Will engine gradually getting hotter affect making adjustments if you take too long while doing drop?

  • @joshlujan7019
    @joshlujan7019 4 роки тому

    Please do a vtx 1300 carb tune vid please man. Would greatly appreciate that genuinely

  • @joserantocb750
    @joserantocb750 5 років тому +1

    Hey Cody, Happy new year bro, looj, I have a question, when you close "turn in" the air mixture screw are you leaning the mixture? thanks buddy.

  • @Joe_1971
    @Joe_1971 5 років тому

    Hi Cody, I have an 01 Kawasaki Vulcan 500. It seems to run good, very peppy and has no problem accelerating. Only issue I have with it is when I hold a constant speed or decelerate, I get some backfire out out the right side exhaust. I have cleaned out the carbs, balanced them and like I said the bike runs good with the exception of a slight backfire out of the right exhaust. My question is when performing the idle drop test the left side carb will cause the engine to die when i turn the piolot screw all the way in and run nice when it's 2 1/2 turns out. The right side card turning the pilot screw all the way in or all the way out makes no difference to the running engine. Any idea why? I am assuming that they both should do something to the idle and not just the left hand side one/

    • @tylanway5450
      @tylanway5450 4 роки тому

      The right side isn't adjusting. I think that is a signal that there is something wrong like a clog the right?

  • @brianb5779
    @brianb5779 3 роки тому

    Is there any chance you happen to know what the hole size is on a 06 honda crf50f for the pilot jet? Forums are all over the place on hole size..if i were to guess i wana say .012" but guessing doesnt help. Thank you if you could respond..

  • @RICHIE_RICH89
    @RICHIE_RICH89 5 років тому +2

    I always go out till engine change in till engine change then between the two spot on everytime

  • @khell1169
    @khell1169 4 роки тому

    i have 2 carbs on a honda cx500 - can i pull the plug on one side... make the mixture adjustment, then do the other side? aka 1 side at a time?

  • @VOLVOb18ft
    @VOLVOb18ft 4 роки тому

    I have rebuilt the carb for a suzuki gt125. I set the float to spec, set idle air screw to spec (one turn from fully closed) but my issue is that the engine does not idle at all. It keeps dying unless i stay above 1500 rpm. How am I supposed to set Idle since I have to keep engine runing high? Any idea?

  • @mikelyons9971
    @mikelyons9971 5 років тому

    Should I do this idle drop tune on a carb in the ambient temperature that I will be riding in?

    • @Roboticdoughbull3k
      @Roboticdoughbull3k 5 років тому

      mike lyons I just went out and did the exact same procedure on my old 85 trx 125 and the temperature here is about 20 degrees with no danger of the recent 6" of snow we got yesterday melting. Anyhow it worked great even though I'm probably at the max 3.5 turns out, she definitely idles better than before only had adjusted the main screw and was super picky as to a exact sweet spot it would idle at. Seems much happier now in my experience.

  • @BeginnerBikeLife
    @BeginnerBikeLife Рік тому

    13:40 That happened to me on my CBR600F4 carb 1... which also caused my bike to have terrible idle, but also have me buy another carb rebuild kit....FELLAS/LADIES listen to the man!

  • @quadflopper1012
    @quadflopper1012 5 років тому

    Does anyone know if there are any main and pilot fuel jets from other
    carb manufacturers (ie: Mikuni, Keihin, ect.) that can be substituted
    for use in the Hitachi HSC 32 CV carbs used on the 80-82 Yamaha XJ650?

    • @How2Wrench
      @How2Wrench 5 років тому

      To my knowledge, there were no substitutes but our shop would buy replacement jets from any "K&L Supply" dealer (most all Powersports shops are). Its been a few years since we had a Hitachi in so maybe someone came up with something to help with this annoying problem.

  • @black_yeti
    @black_yeti 5 років тому +2

    Is backfiring bad? Also does backfiring happed the most at rich or lean?

  • @1cisqo
    @1cisqo 4 роки тому

    Cody, I like what you're teaching but, I have a Valkyrie and with 6 carbs. None of these work. Do you have any videos on the Valkyrie. Yes, carbs been cleanes 3 times now I'm changing the jets. If there info in the Insider club then sign me up....

  • @TCBZSKI716
    @TCBZSKI716 Рік тому

    I know it's old but was curious on how to idle drop 4 carbs?