First Look: Canyon Grizl. Shed Tech episode #6
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- Going on an adventure: Canyon launches the Grizl gravel bike
Shed Tech episode #6
Shed Tech goes beyond the Shed this time so Cyclist Tech Editor Sam Challis can introduce Canyon’s latest gravel bike, the Grizl.
Canyon says that gravel is such an established riding discipline now that it warrants specialist subdivision in order to better cater for an individual’s specific riding needs. Want to go fast on hardpack gravel roads? Go for the Grail. But for those riders seeking to tackle longer expeditions over more adventurous terrain, Canyon says its new Grizl is the tool for the job.
For the full launch story as well as a more detailed first ride review click here:
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Please normalize telling us the size of the bike and rider.
Great bike, good review- This checks all the boxes for me. I think I found my bike-I agree with you on the 29" wheels, I have a BMX cruiser with 29"s and it rolls on grass like a dream, which is why I want meaty 700c on a Gravel bike. Thanks, man!
Thanks for the review!
A solid bike with speed and comfort!
Great review. Covered all I wanted to learn. Cheers.
Great subtle humor 🤠
Great review. Thanks for posting!
Thanks for watching Lorenzo - Sam
Great Bike 🤘🏼
Finally they nail this.
50mm tyres for the win, great improvement
Great review, cheers
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks. - Sam
Interested to see what the bike is like with some road wheels. I'd love to have one bike with two sets of tyres rather than two bikes!
A bit to heavy for a road bike.
@@Scherzkeks123 900g heaver than their Endurance bike (both slx 8 but the endurance is 1k more expensive), not too heavy in my opinion. are there any near 8kg gravel bikes in the sub 5k range?
@@HaswellCore Ridley make some great options under the Kanzo range. The aero one is ridiculous
@@connor3030 is the kanzo fast as rigid and stiff as the Cervelo?
@@HaswellCore Couldn't tell you with any certainty, my local bike shop stocks both Ridley and Cervelo and the Ridleys look as good... but that's about all I can say!
Hi Sam, great review. Liked and Subscribed. 😊
Thanks Matej, helps that I had a great bike to do it on 😉
I agree that it's good to see they scrapped that stupid hover bar for this bike. I think it also does make sense to design a bike around a single wheel size, since swapping wheel sizes does affect the geometry and handling. If it's good for 700c it will be compromised for 650b and vice versa, even taking the likely different tyre sizes into account.
650B has always been for short people or frame with limited tire clearance. Nice to see increasing number of gravel bike with good 700C tire clearance !
I'd like to know what size you are riding in the test? and is that the size reccomended by Canyon? I'm looking to buy one, but relly unsure what size to get
Good video/overview thanks
Thanks, glad you liked the video. - Sam
Does anyone know if the geometry of this bike is upright and relax?
Hi, thank you for the review. Very interesting. Maybe I missed it (also do not find it in the written review). What is the height of the rider using the L frame?
Hi Raffael. I'm 185cm and the L fits me really nicely. - Sam
@@Cyclistmagvideo Hy and thanks for this great review ! I am 190 cm… just seating between L and XL… can’t decide witch size I should go for 😓😓 any suggestions ? I come from MTB enduro and this would be my first road/gravel bike. I will not do heavy gravel. many thanks !
@@olivierpetri8138 I'm also 190cm but with lots of research on the internet, you should check your inseam, (mine is 86cm) and the recommandation from the sizing algo from canyon website is L. Comparing the XL and L specs, the L version matches my single speed bike (XL state bicycle) which fits me perfectly. And usually, people say that it is better to get the smaller one if you're in between because it is easier to make it your fit (replacing the stem for example)
I bought the Grizl cf sl 8 1 by with dropper and suspension
Is this good for “bike to work” situation?
Where did seat post go on 2021 model?
Any idea what's the max load for a saddle bag on this funky seatpost? Specially designed Apidura saddle bag is too small, would like to use some L size Ortlieb
Hi Kristaps. Canyon doesn't have information regarding the exact maximum load in terms of luggage, but states that maximum general load is 100kg. So as long as the rider+attached gear is under 100kg you should be fine - Sam
@@Cyclistmagvideo Isn't the maximum load 120kg?
Hi, very good video about this bike. I canť still decision between Grizl and Grail bike. I rather buy the Grizl, because it is so robust. but on other hand I want also be faster on tarmac. It is so difference between the 40 and 45 mil tires?
i am on that fence as well.. did you end up picking one over another?
@@bluelabel222 Hi yes a decide to buy the Grizl,
The Grizl looks awesome! Have been looking at an aluminium Focus Atlas 6.8 in my LBS but the carbon Grizl SL6 is the same price and over a kg lighter. Admittedly the componentry between the 2 isn't identical but the Grizl represents a great alternative and I love the frame geometry and colours of the Grizl SL6. Unfortunately, there's a 3 mth wait! Be interested to hear feedback from new owners.
Thats too bad, literally yesterday at launch all models were in stock, i will get mine this week!
Did you get a Grizl? If so how do you like it?
Getting my curry colored CF SL6 this week🟡🚵♂️
the only unfortunately is that you buy a carbon bike without almost any warranty they give you 6 years and good luck to you i bought and aero bike and they didnt do anything when had cracked i wait one year to get the refund canyon isnt trusty thats why they havent lieftime warranty like scott trek etc
Hey nice video! Can anyone help me to find the right size for me. I'm 1,89m and the inner side of my legs are about 87 cm long. I want this bike to ride fast to work and do some bike packing adventures. Canyon says I'm between L & XL. You got recommendations?
Sadly I'am forced to 650b according to canyon sizing. Even if i'am riding a Orbea occam in M size in 29inch canyon decided to fit 650b on smaller frame... :-(
Not sure how you think this is a shorter more upright bike… the reach/stack ratio is akin to a trek madone or specialized tarmac!
Good review Sam. Thanks
Thanks Tony! - Sam
Not seeing that color listed on the US Canyon website, do you happen to know what countries that color is available?
I'm not sure Jeremy, I'll ask Canyon and let you know - Sam
@@Cyclistmagvideo was thinking the same thing Jeremy. Hopefully they offer this color in the future. I know they are soon to release an aluminum frame version of the Grizl.
Bad news Jeremy - the 'Earl Grey' colour is available in all countries apart from the US!
@@Cyclistmagvideo satan strikes again!
@@mattclute780 Just like their rim brake Ultimate SL 6 they only offer outside of US 😞
size frame please;!??
The XXS and XS sizes of this bike have 650B wheels.
Size? Thanks
What is the name of the bike's color: Earl Grey or Smoked Oolong? Thanks
Maybe can install 35mm - 40mm
tires for road purpose 😁
This bike was really easy to assemble ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
Larger sized rotors on their own do not equal greater braking performance. You'd need better brakes to take advantage of that (i.e. larger brake pad surface area, better pad materials and better clamping).
Which size is this bike please
This is a Large
@@Cyclistmagvideo Hi Sam, how tall are, if I may ask?
@@patrickp5726 Hi Patrick, I'm 6' 1" - Sam
wish we could get that color in the US
Agree! I’m 5’10 1/2” had a grail size Small, and it was along reach IMO, many others would disagree but looking at the specs, is def longer than most 56 sized bikes I’ve been on. Good luck out there
@@memos_povreviews5539 wrong comment?
This color is finally available in the US!! I am keeping an eye in August!
I got the Grizl CF SL around 3 months ago. I was planning to use it for commuting and doing some gravel adventure; however, after 3 weeks of use, I had a minor crash with another bicycle and the frame broke. I contacted Canyon and asked about the Crash Replacement Program. Basically, Canyon offered me a new frame (fork not included) for US$ 1,600 + Tax - not exactly a bargain. For now, I will store the bike while I decide what to do with it. If you are planning to do some adventure riding or to commute, consider getting an aluminum frame, as it will be more reliable. My suggestion, get a bike from a reputable brand from a local bike store.
Odd, the frame set costs 1800€ tax included. With seatpost fork stem handlebars and skewers,
This is starting to look like variations in cars, here we have the ford focus XS-S which is totally different from the ford focus XS-Z. I get it, but to be fair it really does look like a grail with more mounting points. Something smelled fishy when canyon removed those mounting points on the grail for the 2020 model. And tadaaa here we have a "new"model :P . Only starting 600 euro's more for the base model ...... You see where im going with this? Don't get me wrong I own a grail AL 7 size m and love it to bits and yes 45 mm 700C wheels also fit in this bike. So I am hard pressed to see the extra value, it feels like they are just taking the piss now. Base model is grizl is 1999 euro carbon frame weighing 9.8 kg with grx 400 a grail 7 aluminum with grx 800 was 1850 euros weighing 9.3 kg. So what is the value proposition here? I guess the compliance in the frame of the carbon bike but why does it weigh more? So many questions, canyon can do better than this.
Comparing the Grail CF SL 7 to the Grizl CF SL 7 the Grizl is a few hundred less with what looks to be a very similar component package. I'm guessing stock in the Grail will pile up and the Grizl will sell out all summer.
meanwhile my inflite 2017 is at 8.9 for 1500euros... not cf tho
It was well know at the time that an alloy version of the grizl would come out, no need to see the devil here xD. Also your numbers are from where ? on canyons website, the grizl cf sl 6 and the grail al 7 have the same weight, explained easily by the heavier tires and an heavier group set on the grizl.
Between the grail al 7 and the grizl cf sl 7, so same group set, you have a 300 g difference between the two. Up to 514g if you consider the same tires. So its lighter, in carbon, with bigger tire clearance and fork mounts for 500€ more ... seems fair.
If you compare the grail 7 with the grizl 7, so nearly same specs, you have a a 820g difference, minus 214g for the tires which means a "real" difference of 606 g.
So same price, and you can choose for the lighter option with the grail (606g) or the more capable option with the grizl : Fork mounts, tire clearance, rack mount (only on the alloy version), front suspension option
Also the welds on the grizl Al are much better looking, at least in Europe. Not the case in the usa for unknown reasons.
The value is in the ability to choose what fits you the best.
180 mm rotors are great at high speed and if fully loaded.
I wouldn't be able to stand still and talk about it. I would ride (and talk about it).
Welche Größe ist das M oder L 🤔
Anybody else notice the green screen??
snarky
great bike, needs a new paint job though, so drab
What’s wrong with his right leg, wobbling around throughout the video!!
Good spot, I didn't notice myself doing that. Just for you, it'll be firmly planted next time! - Sam
dropper posts are not for UK gravel, more for US
Duly noted, thanks Jairus! - Sam
I'd have one of the SL7s in 1x if I could get it in that color instead of that ridiculous mint green. Dunno WTF they were thinking with that particular colorway... yuck!
This or grail?
grail
Too agressive geometry bro! 😢
It’s a bit dull just standing talking
That is not a review. It is just an elaborate advertisement. Bike journalism is a joke.
Path less peddled has great actual reviews instead of a 30 second wrap up at the end of the video lol.
Well reviews are subjective
... so not only do we need gravel bikes, but now we need expensive ones.... blah... sorry not interested. Gravel bikes should be cheap and easy to replace gear cables and mechanicals like a mountain bike because of all the s&^t they get caked in.