Season 1 ep 13 we will talking about M Dot R & others and if there appropriating/ mocking Jamaican culture #jamaica #toronto #canada #dancehall #london
Yeah but is he not entertainng? I'm from Caracas Venzuela where even you Jamaican Island guys are considered "outsiders" ?! Out here we really bee through BADNESS, I grw up as a whiteboi around all black / mexican dudes. M dot aint a cultgure vulutre...... Theres a VERY BIG DIFFERENCE between cultural appreciation and appropriaton....... As a whitebou mexican who been wit black women my whole damn life i GET IT...... Us man aint ever gon understand how it be to REALLY be blackman in america.... But we DO understand the whole outkast ting.... I beena whiteboy fuckin wit Black Gyal for over 10 years, so i gotta PROVE myself more than anyone especiall wit a jamaican gyal family etc.... I feel both sides of the argument....
@@eRasedXem you said a lot, but has nothing to do with what I said. Being "entertaining" isn't the same as being talented. Snow and Collie Budz were talented. Measure their contributions to M Dot R's. Race has nothing to do with being talented. Anyone can cuss Jamaican bad words. That's not talent and far from entertaining. Maybe funny, but that's about it. Check out his interview with Entertainment Report Podcast where he was questioned about his actual talent.. Why are you viewing this from a whiteness and badness perspective?
Being Jamaican is a cultural experience given by birth!!! I am a first generation Canadian with Jamaican parents, growing up in foreign, and even when I go back home I know in my heart I am not a real Jamaican. Me spending 6 months in Jamaica each year doesn’t make me Jamaican.
M Dot is cringe AF. I'm a white guy who grew up in an area in London with a lot of my friends of Carribean heritage and I adopted a lot of the slang etc when we used to MC and DJ (was on pirate radiO FROM 16-20yrs old). As a 38yr old man now (around the same as M Dot) like I said I find his actions cringe , like some of the ways i might have been as a CHILD and since realised its kind of disrespectful and embarrassing. This guy reminds me of when Jamie Oliver 'invented' a posh Jerk Rice and tried to say he elevated the dish but showed no props or respect to where the dish came from. Pure appropriation.
I find it cringe as a white guy that another white guy commenting on Jamaicans 😂 Come let's watch eastenders and have a tea together mate and let the real Jamaicans make the decision.
I'm not understanding. We have Black, White, Asian and Latin people that were born and raised in Jamaica. They are all Jamaican. These three people in the podcast are clearly British. Because your parents are born in Jamaica, they are Jamaican. You are born in Britain then you are British with Jamaican parents. One love, One people!!!!!
I disagree with your comment As a Canadian with Jamaican parents, who lives in Canada, I have had white Canadians ask me where I'm from despite my accent. Just because white, Asian amd Latinos were born in Jamaica doesn't make them Jamaican! Their ancestry will clearly tell them they are from various parts of Europe, various parts of Asia, or South America/Spain, etc. They are immigrants to the country. Their children are 1st generation. Yes, they have their citizenship their but as a child of Jamaican parents, I can easily get my citizenship with a signature on a document and a fee. I have this sane attitude with white South Africans. As you are making the same argument as Elon Musk. He thinks he's more African than an African American. But, he's not! I'm more African than Elon Musk. No matter where we are born, we luv our Jamaican culture. We live and breathe it! We stay connected to it because of our parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins!!!! Don't devalue us!!!! 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽
I don't find him disrespectful. He loves the music and the culture. That is clear. However, he is not my taste. I have Jamaican friends, my parents are from the Caribbean and there are plenty other artists I prefer. He is not my cup of tea by a long shot. He gets away with his style as plenty of non Carribbean people who love the music dont necessarily understand all the words they just hear someone chat something on a questionable good beat. I like his passion and he is sincere in what he does but, plenty more artists I'd prefer to listen to. If he can make a career out of his passion then who am I to knock him. I can argue I am part Vincy due to my parents from there but I have no idea on the day to day activities of the island. I know German, chinese and native caribs, Indians as well as afro caribbeans on the island born and raised. They are all Vincy surely the same way Jamaica is a lot more multicultural than people outside of Jamaica realise.
Is this channel called a podcast because there’s longer format discussions somewhere that I am missing?? I really enjoy your vids and in some cases wish they were longer 😭
interesting topic. I would shrug and say that it's not that deep except as someone of Jamaican descent, it is a big deal if non-Jamaicans are mimicking our style in a way to make us look bad. I've never heard of M Dot R before and hope that he engages respectfully with Jamaicans since his whole persona is based on our culture.
Boi talk da tings am happy you addressed that situation... I've been talking about this man from the times i saw here doing his foolishness... what kills me is that i see Jamaicans backing him up...😔😔
Ive never heard Jamaicans shoutingnout Sheppey. They both can be right. He could know more about dancehall, being he makes an effort to submerge himself anywhere dancehall exists. I think when she says she is more Jamaican, she is speaking in twrms of birth place, and certain cultural experiences that you get from birth. He probably grewbup bathing without avrag. He probably never played jacks, or pee pee in a chimmye or everbhad to bade in cold water . He peobably didnt grow up eating susumba or tinkin toe, , or told aftwr asking to go outside " yuh bade from mawnin?", " go read a book". He is experiencing dancehall culture, jut a Jamaican upbringing is not the same.
@@f4live69 exactly, I've always loved ska, reggae, jungle etc and really enjoy the Jamaican way of life, culture, food and how they speak. If I felt truly accepted by the Jamaican peope, like he does then I would probably go full Jamaican myself 🇯🇲
Not it’s not. Psychologically, it says that he’s envious. And envy and jealousy are as cruel as the grave. It first starts with imitation then ends with something way more sinister. He's literally pretending to be something that he’s not. And not only is he pretending to be something he’s not. He’s trying to dictate who is and who isn’t what he’s trying to be pretend to be. Typical colonizer mentality and behaviour. If Jamaicans know what good for them, they would indeed gatekeep.
@@katolang1161he’s reincarnated from his ancestors. His aggressive behaviour people sees it as Jamaicans are aggressive and violent. The black is proof black men don’t respect and represent their black woman.
The whole things is our hands are tied and we dont have the control so sometimes we find ourselves at a road block we have to own our own studios labels and productions team to promote our own everything
Watched a couple of your videos today. Real good job on them and the context of the points you’re trying to make. Would you do one about the amount of new Canadians immigrants that are having beef with people who are from their previous countries and settling their beefs here. Why isn’t this discussed? Example: new dishwasher at my work hates a different culture from his home country (to me just looking at both I’d say they look the same. Just saying) but to the dishwasher there beef on sight with the other culture. Why wouldn’t that be established from the screening process individuals to not place them in close proximities or even accept them into our highly populated areas where cultures are forced to mix on every day Ttc commutes, work, entertainment, parental care, social services and organizations? All good to accept new immigrants but in the same breath I think they must be willing to be comfortable being around people of other cultures. Just a suggestion to take a look into the depths of through a camera
@Nikki, yes! The overweight ones at that! Not body shaming! Just white women period. Alot of those white women don't even like black women. Many of them who are sleeping with black men, already ran to social media. Trying to state or insinuate why our men don't love us.
He has adopted the culture just as many white rappers (eminem anyone..?) have adopted rap culture and it's mannerisms and slang. There is nothing disrespectful in what he is doing, quite the opposite.
@@GRIMZSTREAMINGNETWORK alright get your animal skins on then because all modern clothing is western. Imagine if a black woman chose to wear a wig and I snatched it off her head talking about cultural appropriation. What happened to one nation all people? Yes, Jamaica is a nationality, not a ethnicity, so when he says to a woman with a more posh English accent that he has, that he’s more Jamaican your entire argument is, well she’s black so she’s more Jamaican. This idea we are going to live side by side peaceful yet all I see is blacks shitting on whites. Reap what you sow.
@@strawberrythedancer your clearly looking a response because you sound so stupid asf rn it’s crazy , is m . R Jamaican ? No but he runs around acting as if he is and telling Jamaican he more Jamaican than actual Jamaican . Go find a hobbie and come out my comments you weirdo
My man has been about for years doing the music, the cooking etc. I like his music it’s gas’s hype style music it’s good for what it’s good for. It’s a sticky one still.
If I read the comments on his videos, people, also Jamaicans, were very positive about this Mdot guy, eventhough he did barely nothing. He thought he has something special in hands and started exploiting it way to hard hahahah. Im sorry, but this dude is created by these people talking way to positive about him haha.
@@wesley939Right! Where do we start?!🤦♀️🙆♀️ Especially, when the colonizers are still in our faces. Like their ancestors didn't already did enough.. They have gatekeepers until today!.. We need to take measures and do di same!..🗣🙌
Just listen to the way he talks... he speaks better patwa than a lot of black british I know. He grew around mainly black people and just loves the culture. You gotta face it my breddas, england has stolen bare cultures and caribbean influence is the strongest here, infronta US. Some white people love the culture so love them for loving it and not actually mocking it smh. He actually teaches ppl bout the culture i.e cooking, travelling deh to show u how it is and it's history. Hes done better than most black people to find truths within the culture! He ain't the guy listening in black history month ina white mans country (no offense to white ppl)
All he does is cuss Jamaican bad words. He's like a caricature.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeah but is he not entertainng? I'm from Caracas Venzuela where even you Jamaican Island guys are considered "outsiders" ?! Out here we really bee through BADNESS, I grw up as a whiteboi around all black / mexican dudes. M dot aint a cultgure vulutre...... Theres a VERY BIG DIFFERENCE between cultural appreciation and appropriaton....... As a whitebou mexican who been wit black women my whole damn life i GET IT...... Us man aint ever gon understand how it be to REALLY be blackman in america.... But we DO understand the whole outkast ting.... I beena whiteboy fuckin wit Black Gyal for over 10 years, so i gotta PROVE myself more than anyone especiall wit a jamaican gyal family etc.... I feel both sides of the argument....
@@eRasedXem you said a lot, but has nothing to do with what I said. Being "entertaining" isn't the same as being talented. Snow and Collie Budz were talented. Measure their contributions to M Dot R's. Race has nothing to do with being talented. Anyone can cuss Jamaican bad words. That's not talent and far from entertaining. Maybe funny, but that's about it. Check out his interview with Entertainment Report Podcast where he was questioned about his actual talent.. Why are you viewing this from a whiteness and badness perspective?
@@eRasedXemYou said a lot of nothing really
Facts!
Being Jamaican is a cultural experience given by birth!!! I am a first generation Canadian with Jamaican parents, growing up in foreign, and even when I go back home I know in my heart I am not a real Jamaican. Me spending 6 months in Jamaica each year doesn’t make me Jamaican.
M Dot is cringe AF. I'm a white guy who grew up in an area in London with a lot of my friends of Carribean heritage and I adopted a lot of the slang etc when we used to MC and DJ (was on pirate radiO FROM 16-20yrs old). As a 38yr old man now (around the same as M Dot) like I said I find his actions cringe , like some of the ways i might have been as a CHILD and since realised its kind of disrespectful and embarrassing. This guy reminds me of when Jamie Oliver 'invented' a posh Jerk Rice and tried to say he elevated the dish but showed no props or respect to where the dish came from. Pure appropriation.
I find it cringe as a white guy that another white guy commenting on Jamaicans 😂
Come let's watch eastenders and have a tea together mate and let the real Jamaicans make the decision.
@@sercanserj7804 what decision did I make ? You’re taking 💩 mate
I knew a guy like this who is white and thinks he is from Gway yet lives in a regular home and talk’s patois yet also mocks it. Strange behaviour fr.
I'm not understanding. We have Black, White, Asian and Latin people that were born and raised in Jamaica. They are all Jamaican. These three people in the podcast are clearly British. Because your parents are born in Jamaica, they are Jamaican. You are born in Britain then you are British with Jamaican parents. One love, One people!!!!!
Only his step dad is Jamaican, I believe, but I could be wrong.
I disagree with your comment
As a Canadian with Jamaican parents, who lives in Canada, I have had white Canadians ask me where I'm from despite my accent.
Just because white, Asian amd Latinos were born in Jamaica doesn't make them Jamaican! Their ancestry will clearly tell them they are from various parts of Europe, various parts of Asia, or South America/Spain, etc. They are immigrants to the country. Their children are 1st generation.
Yes, they have their citizenship their but as a child of Jamaican parents, I can easily get my citizenship with a signature on a document and a fee.
I have this sane attitude with white South Africans. As you are making the same argument as Elon Musk. He thinks he's more African than an African American. But, he's not! I'm more African than Elon Musk.
No matter where we are born, we luv our Jamaican culture. We live and breathe it! We stay connected to it because of our parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins!!!!
Don't devalue us!!!! 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲✊🏿✊🏾✊🏽
I don't find him disrespectful. He loves the music and the culture. That is clear. However, he is not my taste. I have Jamaican friends, my parents are from the Caribbean and there are plenty other artists I prefer. He is not my cup of tea by a long shot. He gets away with his style as plenty of non Carribbean people who love the music dont necessarily understand all the words they just hear someone chat something on a questionable good beat. I like his passion and he is sincere in what he does but, plenty more artists I'd prefer to listen to. If he can make a career out of his passion then who am I to knock him. I can argue I am part Vincy due to my parents from there but I have no idea on the day to day activities of the island. I know German, chinese and native caribs, Indians as well as afro caribbeans on the island born and raised. They are all Vincy surely the same way Jamaica is a lot more multicultural than people outside of Jamaica realise.
Yeah just let your coloniser in the culture that's how you were enslaved in the first place
This is a new wave of the Minstrel Show
M dot is the 2020's Ali G
That catering advert though.... that curry and the patties boyyyyy
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Is this channel called a podcast because there’s longer format discussions somewhere that I am missing?? I really enjoy your vids and in some cases wish they were longer 😭
😂😩 no that’s it but I’m glad you enjoy‼️ I’ll make them longer 👀
interesting topic. I would shrug and say that it's not that deep except as someone of Jamaican descent, it is a big deal if non-Jamaicans are mimicking our style in a way to make us look bad. I've never heard of M Dot R before and hope that he engages respectfully with Jamaicans since his whole persona is based on our culture.
Boi talk da tings am happy you addressed that situation... I've been talking about this man from the times i saw here doing his foolishness... what kills me is that i see Jamaicans backing him up...😔😔
I luv ur channel. Ur doing an amazing job. Well done. I’m hooked💙
Thnx sm
We're always jumping out of our body when we see YT people mocking our cultures. Talking about they're invited to the cookout etc.
Ive never heard Jamaicans shoutingnout Sheppey. They both can be right. He could know more about dancehall, being he makes an effort to submerge himself anywhere dancehall exists. I think when she says she is more Jamaican, she is speaking in twrms of birth place, and certain cultural experiences that you get from birth. He probably grewbup bathing without avrag. He probably never played jacks, or pee pee in a chimmye or everbhad to bade in cold water . He peobably didnt grow up eating susumba or tinkin toe, , or told aftwr asking to go outside " yuh bade from mawnin?", " go read a book". He is experiencing dancehall culture, jut a Jamaican upbringing is not the same.
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Fi real you is an old ass Jamaican. No one under 40 know bout susumba and chimney. Who would eva eat tinkin toe nowadays ?
Right!
Imitation is the highest form of flattery
Exactly. If people are jumping ona culture bandwagon, then the cultures doing something right cah ppl are following those ways
@@f4live69 exactly, I've always loved ska, reggae, jungle etc and really enjoy the Jamaican way of life, culture, food and how they speak. If I felt truly accepted by the Jamaican peope, like he does then I would probably go full Jamaican myself 🇯🇲
Not it’s not. Psychologically, it says that he’s envious. And envy and jealousy are as cruel as the grave. It first starts with imitation then ends with something way more sinister. He's literally pretending to be something that he’s not. And not only is he pretending to be something he’s not. He’s trying to dictate who is and who isn’t what he’s trying to be pretend to be. Typical colonizer mentality and behaviour. If Jamaicans know what good for them, they would indeed gatekeep.
This is a perfect summary of this whole situation
@@katolang1161he’s reincarnated from his ancestors. His aggressive behaviour people sees it as Jamaicans are aggressive and violent. The black is proof black men don’t respect and represent their black woman.
“Move like they’re mad in their head” 😂😂
When I hear his voice - ears turn red
The whole things is our hands are tied and we dont have the control so sometimes we find ourselves at a road block we have to own our own studios labels and productions team to promote our own everything
Growing up the family that lived next door to me were jamaican, I never felt the need to put on a jamaican accent though
So he's the British Snow. (anyone else remember that one hit wonder?)
The man is a very Interesting Character!. 😂🎉
Watched a couple of your videos today. Real good job on them and the context of the points you’re trying to make. Would you do one about the amount of new Canadians immigrants that are having beef with people who are from their previous countries and settling their beefs here. Why isn’t this discussed?
Example: new dishwasher at my work hates a different culture from his home country (to me just looking at both I’d say they look the same. Just saying) but to the dishwasher there beef on sight with the other culture. Why wouldn’t that be established from the screening process individuals to not place them in close proximities or even accept them into our highly populated areas where cultures are forced to mix on every day Ttc commutes, work, entertainment, parental care, social services and organizations? All good to accept new immigrants but in the same breath I think they must be willing to be comfortable being around people of other cultures.
Just a suggestion to take a look into the depths of through a camera
It’s true though you see a lot of Jamaican men with white ooman like it’s a trend 🫠💀
@Nikki, yes! The overweight ones at that! Not body shaming! Just white women period. Alot of those white women don't even like black women. Many of them who are sleeping with black men, already ran to social media. Trying to state or insinuate why our men don't love us.
@@xeniousthe2nd432Actually Jamaican women should be more nicer
@@canadianbrotv1303not to eediat disrespectful men. The abusive and rude men, you want woman to respect??? Plz shut up
Funny how he seems to have got more Jamaican over the years 😂
He lived in jamaica for long period of time
M dot R is a caricature and when the interest in him dies down or is no longer advantageous to him he will blend back into his community.
M dot r 🔥
I was watching him when he was cooking jamaican food on his channel: Cook N Vibe
He has adopted the culture just as many white rappers (eminem anyone..?) have adopted rap culture and it's mannerisms and slang. There is nothing disrespectful in what he is doing, quite the opposite.
Eminem never walked around pretending to be Nigerian 😂 telling Nigerian he more Nigerian then them so what r u comparing
@@GRIMZSTREAMINGNETWORK alright get your animal skins on then because all modern clothing is western.
Imagine if a black woman chose to wear a wig and I snatched it off her head talking about cultural appropriation.
What happened to one nation all people? Yes, Jamaica is a nationality, not a ethnicity, so when he says to a woman with a more posh English accent that he has, that he’s more Jamaican your entire argument is, well she’s black so she’s more Jamaican.
This idea we are going to live side by side peaceful yet all I see is blacks shitting on whites.
Reap what you sow.
@@GRIMZSTREAMINGNETWORKI don’t think people understand the deep of this clown behaviour. Honestly I thought it was 69 got his tattoos removed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@strawberrythedancer your clearly looking a response because you sound so stupid asf rn it’s crazy , is m . R Jamaican ? No but he runs around acting as if he is and telling Jamaican he more Jamaican than actual Jamaican . Go find a hobbie and come out my comments you weirdo
My man has been about for years doing the music, the cooking etc. I like his music it’s gas’s hype style music it’s good for what it’s good for. It’s a sticky one still.
You can take the woman out the bushes but you can't take the bush out the woman! If you know you know
Everyone wants to be Jamaican nowadays cuz we have the hype😂 #wannabejamaicans
MDOT love the Jamaican culture he's step dad is a yardman and before the music he was doing a Caribbean cooking show.
👀🙄😒🥱
Enjoying other cultures is not bad i think if someone wears my culture dress i would be happy
He is sub mediocre.
If I read the comments on his videos, people, also Jamaicans, were very positive about this Mdot guy, eventhough he did barely nothing. He thought he has something special in hands and started exploiting it way to hard hahahah. Im sorry, but this dude is created by these people talking way to positive about him haha.
That’s true they gave him the platform
What's England obsession with Jamaica
Long story
@@wesley939Right! Where do we start?!🤦♀️🙆♀️ Especially, when the colonizers are still in our faces. Like their ancestors didn't already did enough.. They have gatekeepers until today!.. We need to take measures and do di same!..🗣🙌
Canada is worse.
All you people hating Jamaican dont care if you watched his UA-cam channel he lived in jamaica in the ghetto
So does that make you Jamaican ? He choose to live there not born and raised in that situation and can’t leave
What ghetto does he live in in Jamaica. What exactly are you implying about Jamaicans.
Well...Black girls straighten their hair.....same thing.
No it’s not …….
@GRIMZTVNETWORK You're not born with straight hair. Girls mock white people's hair. They want to be white. Do some reading.
What? You make no friggen sense..
@@Alexis-ln2hp if I have to explain you wouldn't understand
@@SeamusMcFitz-jz9ifNo need, Never will be the same level, styling hair does not equal Race shifting.
Hem dot R 😂😂😂😂💀
Some of these Americans should go to Scarborough once in their life😂 Every person speaks patois there doesn’t matter their race
No they don’t they speak a water down bullshit
@7:40, 🥱🙄😒🤦♀️💅🙆♀️🤷♀️🛝
😂
Avoid
His name is Moses
M dot R is amazing. Stop hating. Start appreciating!!!
Hating in which part ? Be real wit your self
Just listen to the way he talks... he speaks better patwa than a lot of black british I know. He grew around mainly black people and just loves the culture. You gotta face it my breddas, england has stolen bare cultures and caribbean influence is the strongest here, infronta US. Some white people love the culture so love them for loving it and not actually mocking it smh. He actually teaches ppl bout the culture i.e cooking, travelling deh to show u how it is and it's history. Hes done better than most black people to find truths within the culture! He ain't the guy listening in black history month ina white mans country (no offense to white ppl)
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